AK-47 much more affordable now in Red Nation!
edi...@netpath.net
fixed-stock "new" AK-47 now is $399, compared to $550-599 just this
summer!
Prices on AKs have collapsed back to earth in Red Nation now. This is
a great time - if you don't yet have a good semiauto tactical rifle -
to buy an AK-47 and a thousand-round case of good noncorrosive Wolf-
brand ammo for it. With what you save on the rifle compared to this
summer, you get the ammo!
RIFLES GUARANTEE FREEDOM. Making ownership of semiauto tactical
rifles and plenty of ammo for them near-universal throughout Red
Nation creates a fait accompli no politicians will ever be able to
reverse.
http://www.redstate.com/erick/2009/08/04/where-is-your-townhall/ is
the all-states, continually-updated calendar of "town halls."
http://www.Internet-Gun-Show.com - your source for hard-to-find stuff!
Wayne
<edi...@netpath.net> wrote in message
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> Just got back from Raleigh, North Carolina gun show - where basic
> fixed-stock "new" AK-47 now is $399, compared to $550-599 just this
> summer!
> Prices on AKs have collapsed back to earth in Red Nation now. This is
> a great time - if you don't yet have a good semiauto tactical rifle -
> to buy an AK-47 and a thousand-round case of good noncorrosive Wolf-
> brand ammo for it. With what you save on the rifle compared to this
> summer, you get the ammo!
> RIFLES GUARANTEE FREEDOM. Making ownership of semiauto tactical
> rifles and plenty of ammo for them near-universal throughout Red
> Nation creates a fait accompli no politicians will ever be able to
> reverse.
>
(the ones that scare the crap out of liberals), but is quite effective for
its intended applications. Thus, it might fall through the holes of an AWB.
nraclaptrap
news:hecitq$rlv$1...@news.eternal-september.org:
I used to hunt with one of those M1 carbines. They might be okay for
plinking but I wouldn't want one for hunting or self-defense. And I
wouldn't have any rifle but a bolt-action, so I can keep it after
Congress enacts a uniform gun control statute effective in all states for
all guns. I'd probably get a .22 because it's a good all-around hunting
and self-defense rifle and the ammo's pretty cheap. Of course I have my
pellet rifle which has a muzzle velocity faster than a .22 LR, and its
ammo is even cheaper.
--
NRACLAPTRAP
Ga...@comcast.net
go ahead on and buy those
shootin irons and ammo,help the economy, plus you'll create a secondary
market for gun sales to
the drug dealers when they kick your ass and take them away from you,
hopefully exterminating you worthless hillbillies in the process, and
another added plus,
your inbred, cross eyed, bow legged, adolescent goobers will have access to
them so they can go shoot up their
local schools, you, and each other, pretty soon we'll be shed of all the
deranged right wing, corrupted,polluted,
anachronistic, on your knees to your wal mart masters hillbillies and your
trailer park ghettos
dumb asses can't afford health insurance but they damn sure can afford a gun
and a pickup truck
<edi...@netpath.net> wrote in message
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Ga...@comcast.net
"Wayne" <mygarb...@verizon.net> wrote in message
news:hecitq$rlv$1...@news.eternal-september.org...
might run out of ammo before we pop all you
fat ass, slow moving hillbilly targets, we'll have to shoot you in the head
to make sure yall don't get any
social security disability payments out of our hard earned tax dollars
Bert Hyman
<Ga...@comcast.net> wrote:
> dumb asses can't afford health insurance but they damn sure can afford
> a gun and a pickup truck
Sorry to hear that things haven't worked out for you as you'd hoped.
Good luck.
--
Bert Hyman St. Paul, MN be...@iphouse.com
Bert Hyman
> hillbillies
I think old Glenn/Gator was mistreated by a "hillbilly" some time in his
childhood; it's really affected his thinking.
Bert Hyman
<Ga...@comcast.net> wrote:
> hillbilly
Hey! That's funny!
Klaus Schadenfreude
>"Wayne" <mygarb...@verizon.net> wrote in
>news:hecitq$rlv$1...@news.eternal-september.org:
>
>>
>> <edi...@netpath.net> wrote in message
>> news:78eb6238-a502-48d1...@e31g2000vbm.googlegroups.com.
>> ..
>>> Just got back from Raleigh, North Carolina gun show - where basic
>>> fixed-stock "new" AK-47 now is $399, compared to $550-599 just this
>>> summer!
>>> Prices on AKs have collapsed back to earth in Red Nation now. This
>>> is a great time - if you don't yet have a good semiauto tactical
>>> rifle - to buy an AK-47 and a thousand-round case of good
>>> noncorrosive Wolf- brand ammo for it. With what you save on the
>>> rifle compared to this summer, you get the ammo!
>>> RIFLES GUARANTEE FREEDOM. Making ownership of semiauto tactical
>>> rifles and plenty of ammo for them near-universal throughout Red
>>> Nation creates a fait accompli no politicians will ever be able to
>>> reverse.
>>>
>> Another good one to own is a M1 carbine. It has no evil looking
>> features (the ones that scare the crap out of liberals), but is quite
>> effective for its intended applications. Thus, it might fall through
>> the holes of an AWB.
>
>I used to hunt with one of those M1 carbines.
No you didn't. You were never sober enough to hunt.
>They might be okay for
>plinking but I wouldn't want one for hunting or self-defense.
Yet you claim you hunted with one. Were you lying then- or now?
> And I
>wouldn't have any rifle but a bolt-action, so I can keep it after
>Congress enacts a uniform gun control statute effective in all states for
>all guns.
They won't. Your semi-auto black rifle will be safe.
> I'd probably get a .22 because it's a good all-around hunting
>and self-defense rifle and the ammo's pretty cheap.
ROFLMAO
>Of course I have my
>pellet rifle which has a muzzle velocity faster than a .22 LR, and its
>ammo is even cheaper.
You depend on your pellet rifle for food and you'll be down to 750 lbs
before you know it.
Klaus Schadenfreude
>that's right , all you fat ass, gutless, yellow, sissy crackers and rednecks
>go ahead on and buy those
>shootin irons and ammo,help the economy, plus you'll create a secondary
>market for gun sales to
>the drug dealers when they kick your ass and take them away from you,
You can't afford one, eh? That's too bad.
>hopefully exterminating you worthless hillbillies in the process, and
>another added plus,
>your inbred, cross eyed, bow legged, adolescent goobers will have access to
>them so they can go shoot up their
>local schools, you, and each other, pretty soon we'll be shed of all the
>deranged right wing, corrupted,polluted,
>anachronistic, on your knees to your wal mart masters hillbillies and your
>trailer park ghettos
>dumb asses can't afford health insurance but they damn sure can afford a gun
>and a pickup truck
I just bought another new rifle last week. I had to lay a guy off
until the new year, but he wasn't that productive anyway.
Ga...@comcast.net
"Bert Hyman" <be...@iphouse.com> wrote in message
news:Xns9CCBBD342B1...@216.250.188.141...
hey gomer, yeah you the ignorant, fat ass, hairy,smelly hillbilly,
did you think that was witty ?
LMAO, you hillbillies really crack me up with your infantile, retarded, slow
witted insults,
you're worse than those fat ass heifers down on the south side of Chicago,
sort of like,like, those African Americans and hillbillies on a jerry
springer show with their severely limited
intelligence and tiny,closed off fantasy worlds,
let me give you a clue gomer, get out more often, get some education, read a
fucking newspaper from front to back,
read between the lines, analyze,research,investigate, and you might stop
being a fucking stooge
for your handlers
Ga...@comcast.net
"Klaus Schadenfreude" <klausscha...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:d1pjg5d1feh73tdla...@4ax.com...
right, I'm sure that gun will be much more productive sitting in the closet
Ga...@comcast.net
take a look at your wife if you want a real laugh
nobody
8ee0-4c9...@e31g2000vbm.googlegroups.com:
> RIFLES GUARANTEE FREEDOM.
Rifles don't guarantee shit. The typical rifle owner loves the military,
the police, the marriage of hillbilly American Protestantism to the
government, and he hates most civil rights.
A government run by most gun owners is about as horrific a state as one can
conceive. Only the dumbest fuck alive can love Bush and despise Obama, when
they've both pursued the same policies.
Rifles will only be effective when the dumb American gun owner rediscovers
what freedom is.
Ga...@comcast.net
thinking is not your strong point gomer, but you can work on it
edi...@netpath.net
> I used to hunt with one of those M1 carbines. They might be okay for
> plinking but I wouldn't want one for hunting or self-defense. And I
> wouldn't have any rifle but a bolt-action, so I can keep it after
> Congress enacts a uniform gun control statute effective in all states for
> all guns.
Wise up. Ever heard of a gutsy lady named ROSA PARKS? Anything one
lone black woman could do publicly - civil disobedience - as a member
of a regionally-despised minority any gun owner in Red Nation can much
more easily do privately as a member of an armed overwhelming majority
in the vast contiguous region producing the food and fuel that makes
core urban Blue Nation even liveable.
Really think Washington would dare risk a third Iraq in the source of
all heating fuel (natural gas), most all food, and most power-
generation fuel keeping Blue Nation liveable - especially in dead
winter?
Wake up. "Creating enough facts," as the Israelis call it, is when
you have created an irreversible status quo that no faraway politician
(s) can dare reverse!
RIFLES GUARANTEE FREEDOM. Rosa Parks didn't get freedom for her
people by compliance - but by being willing to be noncompliant.
Jim Alder
>> I'd probably get a .22 because it's a good all-around hunting and
>> self-defense rifle and the ammo's pretty cheap.
>
> ROFLMAO
What's so funny? That Lee Harrison is giving advice on firearms for self
defense and hunting, or that he prefers a pellet gun or a 22 to a 30 carbine?
--
So, how's that whole "hopey - changey"
thing working out for you so far?
Jim Alder
@newsfe13.iad:
Golly, I wonder which Leftwing hatemongering braindead fuck changed his
name for the tenth time this week, exhausting his tiny brain so much that all
he had the intellect for was this spew of leftwing hate, shrieked impotently
from the safety of his mommy's basement apartment or some bluestate trailer
park.
--
Jim Alder
216.250.188.141:
> In news:0LkOm.31077$ZF3....@newsfe13.iad "Gle...@teranews.com"
> <Ga...@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>> dumb asses can't afford health insurance but they damn sure can afford
>> a gun and a pickup truck
>
> Sorry to hear that things haven't worked out for you as you'd hoped.
>
> Good luck.
Why are you sorry? It sounds like whatever cesspool of self-loathing he
landed in was well-deserved for this pathetic waste of skin and air.
Jim Alder
@newsfe25.iad:
>
> "Bert Hyman" <be...@iphouse.com> wrote in message
> news:Xns9CCBBD342B1...@216.250.188.141...
>> In news:0LkOm.31077$ZF3....@newsfe13.iad "Gle...@teranews.com"
>> <Ga...@comcast.net> wrote:
>>
>>> dumb asses can't afford health insurance but they damn sure can afford
>>> a gun and a pickup truck
>>
>> Sorry to hear that things haven't worked out for you as you'd hoped.
>>
>> Good luck.
>>
>> --
>> Bert Hyman St. Paul, MN be...@iphouse.com
>
> hey gomer, yeah you the ignorant, fat ass, hairy,smelly hillbilly,
>
> did you think that was witty ?
>
> LMAO, you hillbillies really crack me up with your infantile, retarded, slow
> witted insults,
LMAO!!! As opposed to what?
> you're worse than those fat ass heifers down on the south side of Chicago,
>
> sort of like,like, those African Americans and hillbillies on a jerry
> springer show with their severely limited
> intelligence and tiny,closed off fantasy worlds,
>
> let me give you a clue gomer, get out more often, get some education, read a
> fucking newspaper from front to back,
>
> read between the lines, analyze,research,investigate, and you might stop
> being a fucking stooge
> for your handlers
Is that how you achieved your intellectual pinnacle?
Ga...@comcast.net
"Jim Alder" <jima...@ssnet.com> wrote in message
news:Xns9CCC14BED1589...@216.196.97.142...
> "Gle...@teranews.com" <Ga...@comcast.net> wrote in
> news:pHlOm.62130$gg6.394
> @newsfe25.iad:
>
>>
>> "Bert Hyman" <be...@iphouse.com> wrote in message
>> news:Xns9CCBBD342B1...@216.250.188.141...
>>> In news:0LkOm.31077$ZF3....@newsfe13.iad "Gle...@teranews.com"
>>> <Ga...@comcast.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>> dumb asses can't afford health insurance but they damn sure can afford
>>>> a gun and a pickup truck
>>>
>>> Sorry to hear that things haven't worked out for you as you'd hoped.
>>>
>>> Good luck.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Bert Hyman St. Paul, MN be...@iphouse.com
>>
>> hey gomer, yeah you the ignorant, fat ass, hairy,smelly hillbilly,
>>
>> did you think that was witty ?
>>
>> LMAO, you hillbillies really crack me up with your infantile, retarded,
>> slow
>> witted insults,
>
> LMAO!!! As opposed to what?
>
ahhh, another harebrained, dimwitted cracker,
hey goob, was that supposed to make some sense anywhere but in that
hillbilly fantasy world ?
Ga...@comcast.net
from a hillbilly retard like you,,
make sure you leave that gun loaded, and the spare ammo out so your children
and grandchildren can
go waste some worthless hillbillies for us liberals
"Jim Alder" <jima...@ssnet.com> wrote in message
news:Xns9CCC13E346480...@216.196.97.142...
Ga...@comcast.net
> Bert Hyman <be...@iphouse.com> wrote in news:Xns9CCBBD342B12AVeebleFetzer@
> 216.250.188.141:
>
>> In news:0LkOm.31077$ZF3....@newsfe13.iad "Gle...@teranews.com"
>> <Ga...@comcast.net> wrote:
>>
>>> dumb asses can't afford health insurance but they damn sure can afford
>>> a gun and a pickup truck
>>
>> Sorry to hear that things haven't worked out for you as you'd hoped.
>>
>> Good luck.
>
> Why are you sorry? It sounds like whatever cesspool of self-loathing he
> landed in was well-deserved for this pathetic waste of skin and air.
>
watch that blood pressure gomer, we know how you fat ass, deranged,diabetic
crackers are,
we don;t want to be paying those ER costs for your fat ass, so if you're
gonna have a stroke, die quickly
edi...@netpath.net
> Klaus Schadenfreude <klausschadenfre...@yahoo.com> wrote innews:fsojg5p19lov76sv4...@4ax.com:
> >> I'd probably get a .22 because it's a good all-around hunting and
> >> self-defense rifle and the ammo's pretty cheap.
>
> > ROFLMAO
>
> What's so funny? That Lee Harrison is giving advice on firearms for self
> defense and hunting, or that he prefers a pellet gun or a 22 to a 30 carbine?
Only good a .22 is as a "self-defense rifle" is in AMBUSH to get you a
more-capable one!
.22, however, is an ideal hunting rifle - as it has proven ability to
take even deer if necessary, and was often used for deer during the
1930s "Great" Depression. What makes .22 ideal as a hunting rifle for
when T.S.H.T.F. is it will take small game you and your household eat
all at one meal - as in without refrigeration when the power's out.
Also that ammo for it is sold seemingly everywhere in Red Nation -
often even gas stations!
AndyS
> I used to hunt with one of those M1 carbines. They might be okay for
> plinking but I wouldn't want one for hunting or self-defense. And I
> wouldn't have any rifle but a bolt-action, so I can keep it after
> Congress enacts a uniform gun control statute effective in all states for
> all guns. I'd probably get a .22 because it's a good all-around hunting
> and self-defense rifle and the ammo's pretty cheap. Of course I have my
> pellet rifle which has a muzzle velocity faster than a .22 LR, and its
> ammo is even cheaper.
>
Andy comments:
I got myself a new Henry chambered for .22 LR last summer and it is
every bit as accurate as my bolt action. I use it for plinking and
small
game, with a 9X scope on it.
It is more fun to shoot than any gun I have had. I would really
reccommend a lever gun over a bolt action, if for no other reason
than the "feel" it has. ( Serial number six of the Henry was
presented to President Lincoln ).....
If Custer had Henrys at Little Big Horn, he would have wounded
a lot more Indians before they massacred him.... :>))))))
Of course, now we are more concerned about Pakistanis.......
:>)))) Andy in Eureka, Texas
edi...@netpath.net
> I got myself a new Henry chambered for .22 LR last summer and it is
> every bit as accurate as my bolt action. I use it for plinking and
> small game, with a 9X scope on it.
> It is more fun to shoot than any gun I have had. I would really
> reccommend a lever gun over a bolt action, if for no other reason
> than the "feel" it has. ( Serial number six of the Henry was
> presented to President Lincoln ).....
Anyone going with a .22 really should consider a 10/22 first above all
others; it's much better supported in the aftermarket in terms of
accessories than any other .22 rifle in history. It's easy to get a
heavy barrel and put it on a 10/22 - but not on a Henry. Even muzzle
couplers can be found for 10/22s - but not for Henrys, nor anything
else.
Klaus Schadenfreude
>Klaus Schadenfreude <klausscha...@yahoo.com> wrote in
>news:fsojg5p19lov76sv4...@4ax.com:
>
>>> I'd probably get a .22 because it's a good all-around hunting and
>>> self-defense rifle and the ammo's pretty cheap.
>>
>> ROFLMAO
>
> What's so funny? That Lee Harrison is giving advice on firearms for self
>defense and hunting, or that he prefers a pellet gun or a 22 to a 30 carbine?
Well, it could be all he has to defend himself against are the
hallucinations brought on by binge drinking.
In that case, 9 out of ten hallucinations will run away at the mere
sight of a gun, having no knowledge of ballistics.
Klaus Schadenfreude
And there is sits, loaded, with all my other rifles. Just waiting.
Bert Hyman
<Ga...@comcast.net> wrote:
> hillbilly,
>
> hillbillies
>
> hillbillies
Hey! That's funny!
Bert Hyman
<Ga...@comcast.net> wrote:
> hillbilly
Hey! That's funny!
--
Gray Ghost
b380-b70...@j9g2000vbp.googlegroups.com:
What's a muzzle coupler?
--
�Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance and the gospel
of envy, its inherent value is the equal sharing of misery.� Winston
Churchill
Jim Alder
> Jim Alder <jimal...@ssnet.com> wrote:
>> Klaus Schadenfreude <klausschadenfre...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>> >> I'd probably get a .22 because it's a good all-around hunting �and self-
defense rifle and the ammo's
>> >> pretty cheap. �
>>
>> > ROFLMAO
>>
>> � �What's so funny? That Lee Harrison is giving advice on firearms for self
defense and hunting, or that he
>> prefers a pellet gun or a 22 to a 30 carbine?
>
> Only good a .22 is as a "self-defense rifle" is in AMBUSH to get you a
> more-capable one!
While that's probably what I would do with mine, I would have some
confidence repelling an attack with mine. It's a 10-22 with a graphite barrel
and an impressive zoom scope. My nine year old nephew can shoot a quarter size
group with it. A few 25 rnd mags makes it at least effective.
> .22, however, is an ideal hunting rifle - as it has proven ability to
> take even deer if necessary, and was often used for deer during the
> 1930s "Great" Depression.
If I could only have one gun, a 22 would probably be it - maybe a 22
magnum - but I would hardly call it - or any caliber - an ideal hunting rifle,
since there are so many things to hunt. Yes, it can take a small deer, but it
will just as likely not, which is why it's not legal for deer anywhere I know
of.
If I were forced to choose 'the ideal long gun' for all occasions, I would
go with the Savage Model 24, a combination rifle over shotgun, with a 22
magnum above and a 12 gauge below. While 22 mag ammo is more expensive than 22
lr, it is more effective against larger game and people. The 12 gauge would
also be helpful for game - you could collect a whole covey of birds with one
shot if they're sitting together. And on those shithittingfan days, nothing
says 'go away' like a 12 gauge slug.
> What makes .22 ideal as a hunting rifle for
> when T.S.H.T.F. is it will take small game you and your household eat
> all at one meal - as in without refrigeration when the power's out.
> Also that ammo for it is sold seemingly everywhere in Red Nation -
> often even gas stations!
--
nraclaptrap
news:acd3a7f3-42a1-4e25...@p19g2000vbq.googlegroups.com:
> On Nov 22, 7:24�pm, nraclaptrap <nraclapt...@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>> I used to hunt with one of those M1 carbines. �They might be okay for
>> plinking but I wouldn't want one for hunting or self-defense. �And I
>> wouldn't have any rifle but a bolt-action, so I can keep it after
>> Congress enacts a uniform gun control statute effective in all states
>> for all guns.
>
> Wise up. Ever heard of a gutsy lady named ROSA PARKS?
I did not know that Rosa Parks carried an M1 carbine. I thought she used
courage to assert her hatred of injustice.
> Anything one
> lone black woman could do publicly - civil disobedience - as a member
> of a regionally-despised minority any gun owner in Red Nation can much
> more easily do privately as a member of an armed overwhelming majority
> in the vast contiguous region producing the food and fuel that makes
> core urban Blue Nation even liveable.
Is that why Martin Luther King threw away his pistol and used plain old
bravery to make white people accept the legal and human rights they had
been denied for centuries?
> Really think Washington would dare risk a third Iraq in the source of
> all heating fuel (natural gas), most all food, and most power-
> generation fuel keeping Blue Nation liveable - especially in dead
> winter?
You mean like the troops in Afghanistan? Yeah, I think President Obama
would call the governors of the states affected, and the governors would
call out their state National Guard units, and you'd be pissing your
britches all the way to the pokey.
Oh wait, you'd be safely removed from any physical confrontation
somewhere in Fairfax County, eh Bedwetter?
> RIFLES GUARANTEE FREEDOM. Rosa Parks didn't get freedom for her
> people by compliance - but by being willing to be noncompliant.
Rosa Parks didn't need a gun to assert her constitutional rights, and
neither do you you ridiculous pissant.
Dismissed.
--
NRACLAPTRAP
Jim Alder
> "edi...@netpath.net" <edi...@netpath.net> wrote:
>> Jim Alder <jimal...@ssnet.com> wrote:
>>> Klaus Schadenfreude <> wrote:
>>>
>>> >> I'd probably get a .22 because it's a good all-around hunting and
self-defense rifle and the ammo's
>>> >> pretty cheap.
>>>
>>> > ROFLMAO
>>>
>>> What's so funny? That Lee Harrison is giving advice
>>> on firearms for self defense and hunting, or that
>>> he prefers a pellet gun or a 22 to a 30 carbine?
>>
>>Only good a .22 is as a "self-defense rifle" is in AMBUSH to get you a
>>more-capable one!
>>.22, however, is an ideal hunting rifle - as it has proven ability to
>>take even deer if necessary, and was often used for deer during the
>>1930s "Great" Depression. What makes .22 ideal as a hunting rifle for
>>when T.S.H.T.F. is it will take small game you and your household eat
>>all at one meal - as in without refrigeration when the power's out.
>>Also that ammo for it is sold seemingly everywhere in Red Nation -
>>often even gas stations!
>>
> All most any shotgun would be preferable over a .22. Many states do
> not allow deer hunting with a .22, but any that allows deer harvesting
> allows a shotgun.
I think he is talking about Mad Max at Thunderdome times when game wardens
are not in evidence. A shotgun might draw undue attention that a 22 would not.
There is no ideal gun for these occasions, so the secret is to have a LOT of
guns! <g>
In my self-appointed position as ruler, I will allow you THREE guns in
this post-apocalyptic world of self reliance. What would you choose?
Jim Alder
@newsfe07.iad:
Yeah, dumbshit. It meant that you criticizing others for "infantile,
retarded, slow witted insults" is a joke and a half, and so are you.
Jim Alder
@newsfe02.iad:
If YOU should wind up in an ER, here's hoping it's due to a well-deserved
asskicking. Hope it winds up on YouTube.
nraclaptrap
news:0b363721-205f-4f40...@33g2000vbe.googlegroups.com:
> On Nov 22, 6:24 pm, nraclaptrap <nraclapt...@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>
>> I used to hunt with one of those M1 carbines. They might be okay for
>> plinking but I wouldn't want one for hunting or self-defense. And I
>> wouldn't have any rifle but a bolt-action, so I can keep it after
>> Congress enacts a uniform gun control statute effective in all states
>> for all guns. I'd probably get a .22 because it's a good all-around
>> hunting and self-defense rifle and the ammo's pretty cheap. Of
>> course I have my pellet rifle which has a muzzle velocity faster than
>> a .22 LR, and its ammo is even cheaper.
>>
>
> Andy comments:
> I got myself a new Henry chambered for .22 LR last summer and it is
> every bit as accurate as my bolt action. I use it for plinking and
> small
> game, with a 9X scope on it.
> It is more fun to shoot than any gun I have had. I would really
> reccommend a lever gun over a bolt action, if for no other reason
> than the "feel" it has. ( Serial number six of the Henry was
> presented to President Lincoln ).....
Well my grandfather gave me his Remington nickel-plated .22, a bolt
action, so that's what I'd like to have again.
> If Custer had Henrys at Little Big Horn, he would have wounded
> a lot more Indians before they massacred him.... :>))))))
I disagree. .22 bullets - if the troops had plenty of ammo, had retained
discipline and shot accurately - could have knocked as many Indians off
their ponies as large caliber bullets.
--
NRACLAPTRAP
nraclaptrap
4d2c-b380-b...@j9g2000vbp.googlegroups.com:
> On Nov 23, 4:58�am, AndyS <andysha...@juno.com> wrote:
>> � I got myself a new Henry chambered for .22 LR last summer and it is
>> every bit as accurate as my bolt action. I use it for plinking and
>> small game, with a 9X scope on it.
>> � �It is more fun to shoot than any gun I have had. I would really
>> reccommend a lever gun over a bolt action, if for no other reason
>> than the "feel" it has. �( Serial number six of the Henry was
>> presented to President Lincoln ).....
>
> Anyone going with a .22 really should consider a 10/22 first above all
> others; it's much better supported in the aftermarket in terms of
> accessories than any other .22 rifle in history. It's easy to get a
> heavy barrel and put it on a 10/22 - but not on a Henry. Even muzzle
> couplers can be found for 10/22s - but not for Henrys, nor anything
> else.
Why does anybody need all that shit on their .22? I also wouldn't want
one specially chambered for 22 LR, I like the ones that shoot shorts,
longs and long rifles, so it's much easier to find ammo and cheaper.
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> "edi...@netpath.net" <edi...@netpath.net> wrote in
> news:f3d24746-a4d2-4d2c-
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>
>> On Nov 23, 4:58�am, AndyS <andysha...@juno.com> wrote:
>>> � I got myself a new Henry chambered for .22 LR last summer and it
>>> is every bit as accurate as my bolt action. I use it for plinking
>>> and small game, with a 9X scope on it.
>>> � �It is more fun to shoot than any gun I have had. I would really
>>> reccommend a lever gun over a bolt action, if for no other reason
>>> than the "feel" it has. �( Serial number six of the Henry was
>>> presented to President Lincoln ).....
>>
>> Anyone going with a .22 really should consider a 10/22 first above
>> all others; it's much better supported in the aftermarket in terms of
>> accessories than any other .22 rifle in history. It's easy to get a
>> heavy barrel and put it on a 10/22 - but not on a Henry. Even muzzle
>> couplers can be found for 10/22s - but not for Henrys, nor anything
>> else.
>
> What's a muzzle coupler?
It's a perverted accessory that allows Bedwetter to have anal sex with
his guns. It keeps the guns from falling out.
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Bama Brian
> "Wayne" <mygarb...@verizon.net> wrote in
> news:hecitq$rlv$1...@news.eternal-september.org:
>> <edi...@netpath.net> wrote in message
>> news:78eb6238-a502-48d1...@e31g2000vbm.googlegroups.com.
>> ..
>>> Just got back from Raleigh, North Carolina gun show - where basic
>>> fixed-stock "new" AK-47 now is $399, compared to $550-599 just this
>>> summer!
>>> Prices on AKs have collapsed back to earth in Red Nation now. This
>>> is a great time - if you don't yet have a good semiauto tactical
>>> rifle - to buy an AK-47 and a thousand-round case of good
>>> noncorrosive Wolf- brand ammo for it. With what you save on the
>>> rifle compared to this summer, you get the ammo!
>>> RIFLES GUARANTEE FREEDOM. Making ownership of semiauto tactical
>>> rifles and plenty of ammo for them near-universal throughout Red
>>> Nation creates a fait accompli no politicians will ever be able to
>>> reverse.
>>>
>> features (the ones that scare the crap out of liberals), but is quite
>> effective for its intended applications. Thus, it might fall through
>> the holes of an AWB.
> I used to hunt with one of those M1 carbines. They might be okay for
> plinking but I wouldn't want one for hunting or self-defense. And I
> wouldn't have any rifle but a bolt-action, so I can keep it after
> Congress enacts a uniform gun control statute effective in all states for
> all guns. I'd probably get a .22 because it's a good all-around hunting
> and self-defense rifle and the ammo's pretty cheap. Of course I have my
> pellet rifle which has a muzzle velocity faster than a .22 LR, and its
> ammo is even cheaper.
Maybe you ought to look up the ballistics of a .22 long rifle vs. a .30
carbine before you smear shit on yourself again, Jabba, old slime thing.
My guess is that the only plinking you've ever done is with your meat
gun, when you could still find it under that inflated gut.
Jeers,
Bama Brian
Libertarian
Bama Brian
nraclaptrap
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> On Nov 23, 1:49�am, Jim Alder <jimal...@ssnet.com> wrote:
>> Klaus Schadenfreude <klausschadenfre...@yahoo.com> wrote
>> innews:fsojg5p19
>> >> I'd probably get a .22 because it's a good all-around hunting �and
>> >> self-defense rifle and the ammo's pretty cheap. �
>>
>> > ROFLMAO
>>
>> � �What's so funny? That Lee Harrison is giving advice on firearms fo
> r self
>> defense and hunting, or that he prefers a pellet gun or a 22 to a 30
>> carb
> ine?
>
> Only good a .22 is as a "self-defense rifle" is in AMBUSH to get you a
> more-capable one!
That's the deal with CCW, the "element of suprise" is crucial to your
self-defense, right? So a .22 should be plenty of gun for self-defense.
> .22, however, is an ideal hunting rifle - as it has proven ability to
> take even deer if necessary, and was often used for deer during the
> 1930s "Great" Depression. What makes .22 ideal as a hunting rifle for
> when T.S.H.T.F. is it will take small game you and your household eat
> all at one meal - as in without refrigeration when the power's out.
> Also that ammo for it is sold seemingly everywhere in Red Nation -
> often even gas stations!
Ha. Ha. Ha.
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> "edi...@netpath.net" <edi...@netpath.net> wrote in
> news:663bc973-69b6-450d...@h10g2000vbm.googlegroups.com:
>
>> On Nov 23, 1:49�am, Jim Alder <jimal...@ssnet.com> wrote:
>>> Klaus Schadenfreude <klausschadenfre...@yahoo.com> wrote
>>> innews:fsojg5p19 lov76sv415c4...@4ax.com:
>>> >> I'd probably get a .22 because it's a good all-around hunting �and
>>> >> self-defense rifle and the ammo's pretty cheap. �
>>>
>>> > ROFLMAO
>>>
>>> � �What's so funny? That Lee Harrison is giving advice on firearms fo
>>> r self defense and hunting, or that he prefers a pellet gun or a 22
>>> to a 30 carb ine?
>>
>> Only good a .22 is as a "self-defense rifle" is in AMBUSH to get you a
>> more-capable one!
>
> That's the deal with CCW, the "element of suprise" is crucial to your
> self-defense, right? So a .22 should be plenty of gun for self-defense.
I don't know how your twisted logic arrives at that conclusion, but I
don't think anyone here thinks you ever make much sense.
But no, a 22 is never 'plenty.' It's sometimes 'enough'.
Gray Ghost
I would choose to shoot you in the head and own whatever the fuck I wanted
to!
8)
Gray Ghost
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And once Weasel displays his complete and utter lack of understanding of
physics, ballistics and reality.
Gray Ghost
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I didn't ask a moron that doesn't know and has the emotional maturity of a
slow 11 yo.
And what you do with things doesn't interest me in the least, unless of
course you are putting it in your mouth and pulling the trigger. When you do
this please stream it directly onto the Internet so we can watch.
Gray Ghost
Personally I beleive in Peace through superior firepower. More bigger, faster
bullets.
edi...@netpath.net
> nraclaptrap wrote:
> > I used to hunt with one of those M1 carbines. They might be okay for
> > plinking but I wouldn't want one for hunting or self-defense. And I
> > wouldn't have any rifle but a bolt-action, so I can keep it after
> > Congress enacts a uniform gun control statute effective in all states for
> > all guns. I'd probably get a .22 because it's a good all-around hunting
> > and self-defense rifle and the ammo's pretty cheap. Of course I have my
> > pellet rifle which has a muzzle velocity faster than a .22 LR, and its
> > ammo is even cheaper.
>
> Maybe you ought to look up the ballistics of a .22 long rifle vs. a .30
> carbine before you smear shit on yourself again, Jabba, old slime thing.
Good hunting .30 Carbine ammo is hard to find and EXPENSIVE. Also,
the M1 Carbine got a poor reputation in various wars for stopping
power. He'd do better with any other imaginable .30 centerfire rifle
- for either hunting larger game or self-defense.
AndyS
> Anyone going with a .22 really should consider a 10/22 first above all
> others; it's much better supported in the aftermarket in terms of
> accessories than any other .22 rifle in history. It's easy to get a
> heavy barrel and put it on a 10/22 - but not on a Henry. Even muzzle
> couplers can be found for 10/22s - but not for Henrys, nor anything
> else.
>
>
Andy comments:
I agree completely.. A Ruger 10/22 is a fine semiautomatic that
one can get for less than a Henry, and has a LOT of support.
CheaperthanDirt has a Dragunov stock for about $60 and one can
buy AK style clips, etc...---- the simple little 10/22 mechanism can
be converted into a sexy looking "assault lookalike" for under a
hundred. It will probably be my next gun......
However, that being said, it doesn't have the "feel" of a Henry.
I'm not kidding, when I plink, I'm holding American History in my
hands, and it's much much more than just a gun to shoot at cans
with........ you just gotta hold one to know...... There's more to
a gun than the technical specs..... well, to SOME guns....
Andy in Eureka, Texas
PS Mine has the long version of the octagonal barrel. Not
a "golden boy", but the same mechanism...... Plenty
heavy enough for what I do --- a little more weight, but
well worth the effot...
Jim Alder
> Jim Alder <jima...@ssnet.com> wrote in
> news:Xns9CCC78E446CE0...@216.196.97.142:
>
>> nraclaptrap <nracl...@invalid.invalid> wrote in
>> news:Xns9CCC6AF887393p...@216.196.97.131:
>>
>>> "edi...@netpath.net" <edi...@netpath.net> wrote in
>>> news:663bc973-69b6-450d...@h10g2000vbm.googlegroups.com:
>>>
>>>> On Nov 23, 1:49�am, Jim Alder <jimal...@ssnet.com> wrote:
>>>>> Klaus Schadenfreude <klausschadenfre...@yahoo.com> wrote
>>>>> innews:fsojg5p19 lov76sv415c4...@4ax.com:
>>>>> >> I'd probably get a .22 because it's a good all-around hunting �and
>>>>> >> self-defense rifle and the ammo's pretty cheap. �
>>>>>
>>>>> > ROFLMAO
>>>>>
>>>>> � �What's so funny? That Lee Harrison is giving advice on firearms fo
>>>>> r self defense and hunting, or that he prefers a pellet gun or a 22 to
>>>>> a 30 carb ine?
>>>>
>>>> Only good a .22 is as a "self-defense rifle" is in AMBUSH to get you a
>>>> more-capable one!
>>>
>>> That's the deal with CCW, the "element of suprise" is crucial to your
>>> self-defense, right? So a .22 should be plenty of gun for self-defense.
>>
>> I don't know how your twisted logic arrives at that conclusion, but I
>> don't think anyone here thinks you ever make much sense.
>>
>> But no, a 22 is never 'plenty.' It's sometimes 'enough'.
>>
>
> Personally I beleive in Peace through superior firepower.
> More bigger, faster bullets.
Sure, with a pragmatic balance. You can't carry an AK around with you.
I've carried a little titanium 38 for years because it was light as can be,
but takes +P+ ammo. I just upgraded to a polymer 6 shot 45,
Scout
> Just got back from Raleigh, North Carolina gun show - where basic
> fixed-stock "new" AK-47 now is $399, compared to $550-599 just this
> summer!
> Prices on AKs have collapsed back to earth in Red Nation now. This is
> a great time - if you don't yet have a good semiauto tactical rifle -
> to buy an AK-47 and a thousand-round case of good noncorrosive Wolf-
> brand ammo for it. With what you save on the rifle compared to this
> summer, you get the ammo!
> RIFLES GUARANTEE FREEDOM. Making ownership of semiauto tactical
> rifles and plenty of ammo for them near-universal throughout Red
> Nation creates a fait accompli no politicians will ever be able to
> reverse.
>
> the all-states, continually-updated calendar of "town halls."
>
> http://www.Internet-Gun-Show.com - your source for hard-to-find stuff!
I find this somewhat hard to believe since an AK-47 is a Title III weapon
and most of those start in the thousands of dollars range.
Jim Alder
Off with his head!!
edi...@netpath.net
> "edi...@netpath.net" <edi...@netpath.net> wrote:
> >Prices on AKs have collapsed back to earth in Red Nation now. This is
> >a great time - if you don't yet have a good semiauto tactical rifle -
> >to buy an AK-47 and a thousand-round case of good noncorrosive Wolf-
> >brand ammo for it. With what you save on the rifle compared to this
> >summer, you get the ammo!
> >RIFLES GUARANTEE FREEDOM. Making ownership of semiauto tactical
> >rifles and plenty of ammo for them near-universal throughout Red
> >Nation creates a fait accompli no politicians will ever be able to
> >reverse.
>
> owned by people who understand what 'freedom' is
> all about and why it's a good thing. Seems like
> everybody in Iraq had an AK or two ... but was
> it a free country ?
Saddam Hussein didn't start passing them out to the general public
until Iraq was about to be invaded by Washington. But what does it
say when what Washington claimed was an unpopular dictator could do
what Washington couldn't dare do here: pass out selective-fire rifles
to any civilian wanting one?
Bert Hyman
"edi...@netpath.net" <edi...@netpath.net> wrote:
> RIFLES GUARANTEE FREEDOM.
Hardly.
Jim Alder
news:5g3mg5dtejna83iqj...@4ax.com:
> On Mon, 23 Nov 2009 09:45:42 -0600, Jim Alder <jima...@ssnet.com>
> wrote:
>
>>Zombywoof <fish...@live.com> wrote:
>>
>>> "edi...@netpath.net" <edi...@netpath.net> wrote:
>>>> Jim Alder <jimal...@ssnet.com> wrote:
>>>>> Klaus Schadenfreude <> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> >> I'd probably get a .22 because it's a good all-around hunting  and
>>>>> >> self-defense rifle and the ammo's pretty cheap. Â
> Gee only three? Do various uppers count as a gun?
We'll go by ATF's perception, where the frame is the 'gun'. For instance,
if you have a .410 insert for a 20 gauge barrel, you can use both calibers in
one gun. Of course, this will make for a complicated answer to an already
complex question.
> Do you make & model, or will just caliber do?
Make it easy on yourself.
nraclaptrap
> While that's probably what I would do with mine, I would have some
> confidence repelling an attack with mine. It's a 10-22
What's the muzzle velocity of a 10-22?
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That would depend on the ammunition used.
nraclaptrap
Shoot a man riding bareback in the chest, bullet bounces off ribs, spine,
sternum, rips internal organs to shreds, man falls off the horse.
Is that physical enough for you, Frank?
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> nraclaptrap <nracl...@invalid.invalid> wrote in
> news:Xns9CCC6AF887393p...@216.196.97.131:
>
>> "edi...@netpath.net" <edi...@netpath.net> wrote in
>> news:663bc973-69b6-450d...@h10g2000vbm.googlegroups.com
>> :
>>
>>> On Nov 23, 1:49�am, Jim Alder <jimal...@ssnet.com> wrote:
>>>> Klaus Schadenfreude <klausschadenfre...@yahoo.com> wrote
>>>> innews:fsojg5p19 lov76sv415c4...@4ax.com:
>>>> >> I'd probably get a .22 because it's a good all-around hunting
>>>> >> �and self-defense rifle and the ammo's pretty cheap. �
>>>>
>>>> > ROFLMAO
>>>>
>>>> � �What's so funny? That Lee Harrison is giving advice on firearms
>>>> fo r self defense and hunting, or that he prefers a pellet gun or a
>>>> 22 to a 30 carb ine?
>>>
>>> Only good a .22 is as a "self-defense rifle" is in AMBUSH to get you
>>> a more-capable one!
>>
>> That's the deal with CCW, the "element of suprise" is crucial to your
>> self-defense, right? So a .22 should be plenty of gun for
>> self-defense.
>
> I don't know how your twisted logic arrives at that conclusion,
Because when you whip out a .22 bolt action rifle and clobber your
attacker over the head with it, he'll be very suprised.
> but I
> don't think anyone here thinks you ever make much sense.
Coming from ignoramuses who believe everything rightwing gun lobbyists
say, that's a real compliment.
> But no, a 22 is never 'plenty.' It's sometimes 'enough'.
There's no such thing as enough gunpower for your self-defense, is there
Mr. Alder?
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> Jim Alder <jima...@ssnet.com> wrote in
> news:Xns9CCC78E446CE0...@216.196.97.142:
>
>> nraclaptrap <nracl...@invalid.invalid> wrote in
>> news:Xns9CCC6AF887393p...@216.196.97.131:
>>
>>> "edi...@netpath.net" <edi...@netpath.net> wrote in
>>> news:663bc973-69b6-450d...@h10g2000vbm.googlegroups.com
>>> :
>>>
>>>> On Nov 23, 1:49�am, Jim Alder <jimal...@ssnet.com> wrote:
>>>>> Klaus Schadenfreude <klausschadenfre...@yahoo.com> wrote
>>>>> innews:fsojg5p19 lov76sv415c4...@4ax.com:
>>>>> >> I'd probably get a .22 because it's a good all-around hunting
>>>>> >> �and self-defense rifle and the ammo's pretty cheap. �
>>>>>
>>>>> > ROFLMAO
>>>>>
>>>>> � �What's so funny? That Lee Harrison is giving advice on firearms
>>>>> fo r self defense and hunting, or that he prefers a pellet gun or a
>>>>> 22 to a 30 carb ine?
>>>>
>>>> Only good a .22 is as a "self-defense rifle" is in AMBUSH to get you
>>>> a more-capable one!
>>>
>>> That's the deal with CCW, the "element of suprise" is crucial to your
>>> self-defense, right? So a .22 should be plenty of gun for
>>> self-defense.
>>
>> I don't know how your twisted logic arrives at that conclusion,
>
> Because when you whip out a .22 bolt action rifle and clobber your
> attacker over the head with it, he'll be very suprised.
Depending on from where you whipped it out, it could be as surprising as a
Sigfried and Roy retrospective, yes. Rifles and CCW do not compute. On the
other hand, if I was a mugger with a 357 and you whipped out a H&R .22
revolver, I would be surprised at your foolheartiness, but your gun would not
be up to the job.
>> but I
>> don't think anyone here thinks you ever make much sense.
>
> Coming from ignoramuses who believe everything rightwing gun lobbyists
> say, that's a real compliment.
No, it really isn't. Trust me.
>> But no, a 22 is never 'plenty.' It's sometimes 'enough'.
>
> There's no such thing as enough gunpower for your self-defense, is there
> Mr. Alder?
That would depend on the situation. I just said a 22 is enough
"sometimes" so that would apper to answer your question before you asked it.
But planning in advance, I would want to be prepared for more possibilities. I
recently got hold of a small, expensive 45 auto to replace my 38 special. I
can't think of a lot of self defense scenarios where a .45 will be less than
sufficient, even if it only holds six rounds.
nraclaptrap
> nraclaptrap <nracl...@invalid.invalid> wrote in
> news:Xns9CCCCC020FE1Bp...@216.196.97.131:
>
>> Jim Alder <jima...@ssnet.com> wrote in
>> news:Xns9CCC6B52315F9...@216.196.97.142:
>>
>>> While that's probably what I would do with mine, I would have some
>>> confidence repelling an attack with mine. It's a 10-22
>>
>> What's the muzzle velocity of a 10-22?
>
> That would depend on the ammunition used.
Let's say it's shooting a bullet.
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Okay, it is shooting one of several dozen varieties of 22 rimfire
ammunition.
nraclaptrap
>>>>>> >> I'd probably get a .22 because it's a good all-around hunting
>>>>>> >> �and self-defense rifle and the ammo's pretty cheap. �
>>>>>>
>>>>>> > ROFLMAO
>>>>>>
>>>>>> � �What's so funny? That Lee Harrison is giving advice on
>>>>>> firearms fo r self defense and hunting, or that he prefers a
>>>>>> pellet gun or a 22 to a 30 carb ine?
>>>>>
>>>>> Only good a .22 is as a "self-defense rifle" is in AMBUSH to get
>>>>> you a more-capable one!
>>>>
>>>> That's the deal with CCW, the "element of suprise" is crucial to
>>>> your self-defense, right? So a .22 should be plenty of gun for
>>>> self-defense.
>>>
>>> I don't know how your twisted logic arrives at that conclusion,
>>
>> Because when you whip out a .22 bolt action rifle and clobber your
>> attacker over the head with it, he'll be very suprised.
>
> Depending on from where you whipped it out, it could be as
> surprising as a
> Sigfried and Roy retrospective, yes. Rifles and CCW do not compute. On
> the other hand, if I was a mugger with a 357 and you whipped out a H&R
> .22 revolver, I would be surprised at your foolheartiness, but your
> gun would not be up to the job.
That's why you use it as a club. Duh.
"foolhardiness"
>>> but I
>>> don't think anyone here thinks you ever make much sense.
>>
>> Coming from ignoramuses who believe everything rightwing gun
>> lobbyists say, that's a real compliment.
>
> No, it really isn't. Trust me.
Unintentional compliments are the best of all.
>>> But no, a 22 is never 'plenty.' It's sometimes 'enough'.
>>
>> There's no such thing as enough gunpower for your self-defense, is
>> there Mr. Alder?
>
> That would depend on the situation. I just said a 22 is enough
> "sometimes" so that would apper to answer your question before you
> asked it. But planning in advance, I would want to be prepared for
> more possibilities. I recently got hold of a small, expensive 45 auto
> to replace my 38 special. I can't think of a lot of self defense
> scenarios where a .45 will be less than sufficient, even if it only
> holds six rounds.
>
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Gray Ghost
This is the equivalent of going to the town square, standing on the podium
and announcing his candidacy for Mayor of Dumbass.
For all his caterwauling and carrying on, he knows some of the words, but not
what they mean. And he wants us to take hime seriously?
Gray Ghost
news:Xns9CCCD59C54BB1p...@216.196.97.131:
40 grain 22 RF bullets being fired in battle conditions against a strong and
determined attacker shooting at you with centfire Winchesters from good
distances?
Look, dude, I'm starting to feel sorry for you. You're stupid. You don't know
what you are talking about. Just deal with it, OK?
Jim Alder
> Jim Alder <jima...@ssnet.com> wrote:
>
>>>>>>> >> I'd probably get a .22 because it's a good all-around hunting
>>>>>>> >> �and self-defense rifle and the ammo's pretty cheap. �
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> > ROFLMAO
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> � �What's so funny? That Lee Harrison is giving advice on
>>>>>>> firearms for self defense and hunting, or that he prefers a
>>>>>>> pellet gun or a 22 to a 30 carbine?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Only good a .22 is as a "self-defense rifle" is in AMBUSH to get
>>>>>> you a more-capable one!
>>>>>
>>>>> That's the deal with CCW, the "element of suprise" is crucial to
>>>>> your self-defense, right? So a .22 should be plenty of gun for
>>>>> self-defense.
>>>>
>>>> I don't know how your twisted logic arrives at that conclusion,
>>>
>>> Because when you whip out a .22 bolt action rifle and clobber your
>>> attacker over the head with it, he'll be very suprised.
>>
>> Depending on from where you whipped it out, it could be as
>> surprising as a
>> Sigfried and Roy retrospective, yes. Rifles and CCW do not compute. On
>> the other hand, if I was a mugger with a 357 and you whipped out a H&R
>> .22 revolver, I would be surprised at your foolheartiness, but your
>> gun would not be up to the job.
>
> That's why you use it as a club. Duh.
If that was supposed to be wit, you missed by half.
> "foolhardiness"
Oh, are we correcting each other's spelling? You left out the first R in
"surprise'. Twice.
>>>> but I
>>>> don't think anyone here thinks you ever make much sense.
>>>
>>> Coming from ignoramuses who believe everything rightwing gun
>>> lobbyists say, that's a real compliment.
>>
>> No, it really isn't. Trust me.
>
> Unintentional compliments are the best of all.
Imaginary compliments are the saddest.
Jim Alder
> Jim Alder <jima...@ssnet.com> wrote in
> news:Xns9CCCED9B09AFD...@216.196.97.142:
>
>> nraclaptrap <nracl...@invalid.invalid> wrote in
>> news:Xns9CCCE06B48B47p...@216.196.97.131:
>>
>>> Jim Alder <jima...@ssnet.com> wrote in
>>> news:Xns9CCCD969CC54D...@216.196.97.142:
>>>
>>>> nraclaptrap <nracl...@invalid.invalid> wrote in
>>>> news:Xns9CCCCC020FE1Bp...@216.196.97.131:
>>>>
>>>>> Jim Alder <jima...@ssnet.com> wrote in
>>>>> news:Xns9CCC6B52315F9...@216.196.97.142:
>>>>>
>>>>>> While that's probably what I would do with mine, I would have some
>>>>>> confidence repelling an attack with mine. It's a 10-22
>>>>>
>>>>> What's the muzzle velocity of a 10-22?
>>>>
>>>> That would depend on the ammunition used.
>>>
>>> Let's say it's shooting a bullet.
>>
>> Okay, it is shooting one of several dozen varieties of 22 rimfire
>> ammunition.
>
> This is the equivalent of going to the town square, standing on the podium
> and announcing his candidacy for Mayor of Dumbass.
>
> For all his caterwauling and carrying on, he knows some of the words, but
not
> what they mean. And he wants us to take hime seriously?
Anyone have any idea what Lee is driving at here?
Gray Ghost
The White Cliffs of Dover. Like the pilot at the End of The War Lover.
Jim Alder
Thanks for clearing things up. :D
Scout
> Klaus Schadenfreude <klausscha...@yahoo.com> wrote in
> news:fsojg5p19lov76sv4...@4ax.com:
>
>>> I'd probably get a .22 because it's a good all-around hunting and
>>> self-defense rifle and the ammo's pretty cheap.
>>
>> ROFLMAO
>
> What's so funny? That Lee Harrison is giving advice on firearms for
> self defense and hunting, or that he prefers a pellet gun or a 22 to
> a 30 carbine?
Oh, I don't know....maybe he's talking that evil .22 assault weapon the AR15
that can shoot through small planets.
MagneticEnergy
would make a great deer rifle, since you can probably find the bullet
and not some small fragment like a smaller caliber that would bounce
around ending up who knows where. No wonder that car sales guy was
giving them away.
I would tend to think American ammo is more accurate, but I'm not an
expert. I shoot my gun at the range to make sure it and the ammo
works, and then I put it up and don't think about it.
Not interested in wearing a hearing aid in a few years, and gun sights
are just that not hard to figure out. If you figure you get at least
5000 rounds of function without any noticeable wear (that needs a gun
smith attention) that's about 13 cents a shot, not bad (not including
the cost of ammo) for something you never plan on using.
If you like to target shoot a lot, get an extra new barrel (wink),
especially if you buy a used gun, and some good hearing protection.
Oil it up once a month and it should last your family a couple hundred
years at least. Don't forget to change out laser sight batteries for
fresh ones when cleaning.
I'll probably pick one up for a Christmas gift for somebody, complete
with a gun safe since they have kids.
MagneticEnergy
<me4g...@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote:
> edi...@netpath.net wrote:
> > Just got back from Raleigh, North Carolina gun show - where basic
> > fixed-stock "new" AK-47 now is $399, compared to $550-599 just this
> > summer!
> > Prices on AKs have collapsed back to earth in Red Nation now. This is
> > a great time - if you don't yet have a good semiauto tactical rifle -
> > to buy an AK-47 and a thousand-round case of good noncorrosive Wolf-
> > brand ammo for it. With what you save on the rifle compared to this
> > summer, you get the ammo!
> > RIFLES GUARANTEE FREEDOM. Making ownership of semiauto tactical
> > rifles and plenty of ammo for them near-universal throughout Red
> > Nation creates a fait accompli no politicians will ever be able to
> > reverse.
>
> >http://www.redstate.com/erick/2009/08/04/where-is-your-townhall/is
> > the all-states, continually-updated calendar of "town halls."
>
>
> I find this somewhat hard to believe since an AK-47 is a Title III weapon
> and most of those start in the thousands of dollars range.
He's probably talking about the semi-automatic clones out there, not a
genuine machine gun. Even then, it depends on your state if you can
have one (which is again not constitutional, what if you have to
move?).
Call your local sheriff if you are not sure.
MagneticEnergy
> "edi...@netpath.net" <edi...@netpath.net> wrote:
> >On Nov 23, 5:32 pm, Mr.B1ack <b...@barrk.net> wrote:
> >> "edi...@netpath.net" <edi...@netpath.net> wrote:
> >> >Prices on AKs have collapsed back to earth in Red Nation now. This is
> >> >a great time - if you don't yet have a good semiauto tactical rifle -
> >> >to buy an AK-47 and a thousand-round case of good noncorrosive Wolf-
> >> >brand ammo for it. With what you save on the rifle compared to this
> >> >summer, you get the ammo!
> >> >RIFLES GUARANTEE FREEDOM. Making ownership of semiauto tactical
> >> >rifles and plenty of ammo for them near-universal throughout Red
> >> >Nation creates a fait accompli no politicians will ever be able to
> >> >reverse.
>
> >> Guns are not a guarentee of freedom UNLESS they're
> >> owned by people who understand what 'freedom' is
> >> all about and why it's a good thing. Seems like
> >> everybody in Iraq had an AK or two ... but was
> >> it a free country ?
>
> >Saddam Hussein didn't start passing them out to the general public
> >until Iraq was about to be invaded by Washington. But what does it
> >say when what Washington claimed was an unpopular dictator could do
> >what Washington couldn't dare do here: pass out selective-fire rifles
> >to any civilian wanting one?
>
> inflict maximum damage on the foe .......
>
> >http://www.redstate.com/erick/2009/08/04/where-is-your-townhall/is
> >the all-states, continually-updated calendar of "town halls."
>
>
> In any event, what I said is perfectly true ... weapons alone
> do not equate to freedom - the proper mindset and education are
> co-requisites.
>
> Alas ... it seems far too many Americans nowadays have zero
> interest in liberty - except for their own, of course. Given
> that, do weapons merely aid prejudices, bigotry, selfishness
> and paranoia instead of preserve a "Land of the Free" ???
>
> Worth contemplating.
>
> On the WHOLE ... I'd say that weapons serve indirectly by
> making the central govt kind of *nervous* and afraid to
> act against anyones liberty. However, be aware that there
> ARE people clever enough to take advantage of the existing
> weaknesses in what little remains of the libertarian ethic
> and turn that "general implied threat" into something that
> profits THEM politically - but not John Q. .....
Well, it might be easy to think that when Americans do not seem to
realize that their liberties are being threatened, and again, firearms
only supplement local law enforcement by giving them a hand in
national emergencies, or in natural disasters. The political system
is designed to affect policies.
AndyS
<me4g...@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote:
> I find this somewhat hard to believe since an AK-47 is a Title III weapon
> and most of those start in the thousands of dollars range.
Andy comments:
AKs sold in the US are semi-automatic . The can be converted back
to full
auto , but one needs a license to do so. The conversion isn't hard,
but
it's hard to find a place to shoot them, unless you live in the
wilderness with
no forest rangers about.....
If you google " low cost AK47s " you will find that the price range
is from
about $350 to around a $1000, depending on place of manufacture, among
other things. I believe that some of the cheaper ones are
manufactured in
places where the .... precision..... isn't what it should be, hence
the lower
price. Yeah, I know the AK is supposed to be foolproof, but anything
can be done poorly.....
Jim Alder
$de6....@newsfe21.iad:
Probably not - the ammo isn't cheap.
"and the ammo's pretty cheap."
--
Bama Brian
> AndyS <andys...@juno.com> wrote in
> news:0b363721-205f-4f40...@33g2000vbe.googlegroups.com:
>
>> On Nov 22, 6:24 pm, nraclaptrap <nraclapt...@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>>
>>> I used to hunt with one of those M1 carbines. They might be okay for
>>> plinking but I wouldn't want one for hunting or self-defense. And I
>>> wouldn't have any rifle but a bolt-action, so I can keep it after
>>> Congress enacts a uniform gun control statute effective in all states
>>> hunting and self-defense rifle and the ammo's pretty cheap. Of
>>> course I have my pellet rifle which has a muzzle velocity faster than
>>> a .22 LR, and its ammo is even cheaper.
>>>
>> Andy comments:
>> I got myself a new Henry chambered for .22 LR last summer and it is
>> every bit as accurate as my bolt action. I use it for plinking and
>> small
>> game, with a 9X scope on it.
>> It is more fun to shoot than any gun I have had. I would really
>> reccommend a lever gun over a bolt action, if for no other reason
>> than the "feel" it has. ( Serial number six of the Henry was
>> presented to President Lincoln ).....
>
> Well my grandfather gave me his Remington nickel-plated .22, a bolt
> action, so that's what I'd like to have again.
>
>> If Custer had Henrys at Little Big Horn, he would have wounded
>> a lot more Indians before they massacred him.... :>))))))
>
> I disagree. .22 bullets - if the troops had plenty of ammo, had retained
> discipline and shot accurately - could have knocked as many Indians off
> their ponies as large caliber bullets.
Nope. Never been in a fire-fight, have you, Jabba, old slime-thing?
Jeers,
Bama Brian
Libertarian
Bama Brian
> On Nov 23, 11:17 am, Bama Brian <claypoolbr...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> nraclaptrap wrote:
>>> I used to hunt with one of those M1 carbines. They might be okay for
>>> plinking but I wouldn't want one for hunting or self-defense. And I
>>> wouldn't have any rifle but a bolt-action, so I can keep it after
>>> Congress enacts a uniform gun control statute effective in all states for
>>> all guns. I'd probably get a .22 because it's a good all-around hunting
>>> and self-defense rifle and the ammo's pretty cheap. Of course I have my
>>> pellet rifle which has a muzzle velocity faster than a .22 LR, and its
>>> ammo is even cheaper.
>> carbine before you smear shit on yourself again, Jabba, old slime thing.
>
> Good hunting .30 Carbine ammo is hard to find and EXPENSIVE. Also,
> the M1 Carbine got a poor reputation in various wars for stopping
> power. He'd do better with any other imaginable .30 centerfire rifle
> - for either hunting larger game or self-defense.
Point is, ballistically the .30 carbine is far superior to the .22 long,
availability notwithstanding.
I don't think he's ever fired either cartridge. Certainly he seems
dim-witted enough to just be making it all up.
--
Cheers,
Bama Brian
Libertarian
"Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it."
George Santayana, 1863 - 1952
Sid Vicious
> nraclaptrap wrote:
>> Well my grandfather gave me his Remington nickel-plated .22, a bolt
>> action, so that's what I'd like to have again.
Why was it taken away, Jabba?
> Nope. Never been in a fire-fight, have you, Jabba, old slime-thing?
He once fought a grease fire... and ate it.
edi...@netpath.net
> Alas ... it seems far too many Americans nowadays have zero
> interest in liberty - except for their own, of course. Given
> that, do weapons merely aid prejudices, bigotry, selfishness
> and paranoia instead of preserve a "Land of the Free" ???
Isn't all that George Washington and his cronies had going for them
that - given the choice - a generally-armed American public would side
with them instead of the colonizing Brit government, or even some
third faction?
To paraphrase what Mao would much-later say, political power really
does grow out of the barrel of a gun - and George Washington proved it
before Mao said it.
RIFLES GUARANTEE FREEDOM.
http://www.redstate.com/erick/2009/08/04/where-is-your-townhall/ is
the all-states, continually-updated calendar of "town halls."
http://www.Internet-Gun-Show.com - your source for hard-to-find stuff!
Ga...@comcast.net
"Jim Alder" <jima...@ssnet.com> wrote in message
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> "Gle...@teranews.com" <Ga...@comcast.net> wrote in
> news:S7sOm.23310$tz6.23305
> @newsfe02.iad:
>
>>
>> "Jim Alder" <jima...@ssnet.com> wrote in message
>> news:Xns9CCC143863F1C...@216.196.97.142...
>>> Bert Hyman <be...@iphouse.com> wrote in
>>> news:Xns9CCBBD342B12AVeebleFetzer@
>>> 216.250.188.141:
>>>
>>>> In news:0LkOm.31077$ZF3....@newsfe13.iad "Gle...@teranews.com"
>>>> <Ga...@comcast.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> dumb asses can't afford health insurance but they damn sure can afford
>>>>> a gun and a pickup truck
>>>>
>>>> Sorry to hear that things haven't worked out for you as you'd hoped.
>>>>
>>>> Good luck.
>>>
>>> Why are you sorry? It sounds like whatever cesspool of self-loathing
>>> he
>>> landed in was well-deserved for this pathetic waste of skin and air.
>>>
>>
>>
>> watch that blood pressure gomer, we know how you fat ass,
>> deranged,diabetic
>> crackers are,
>> we don;t want to be paying those ER costs for your fat ass, so if you're
>> gonna have a stroke, die quickly
>
> If YOU should wind up in an ER, here's hoping it's due to a
> well-deserved
> asskicking. Hope it winds up on YouTube.
>
right gomer, looking for someone else to do the man's job you fat ass,
gutless, loud mouth,
sissy crackers can't do ?
stay tuned shithead, I suspect it won't be long before you simple and feeble
minded goobers let those
big mouths overload those fat asses and you rile up the wrong people
Ga...@comcast.net
>>>
>>> >> I'd probably get a .22 because it's a good all-around hunting and
>>> >> self-
> defense rifle and the ammo's
>>> >> pretty cheap.
>>>
>>>
>>> What's so funny? That Lee Harrison is giving advice on firearms for self
> defense and hunting, or that he
>>> prefers a pellet gun or a 22 to a 30 carbine?
>>
>> more-capable one!
>
> While that's probably what I would do with mine, I would have some
> barrel
> and an impressive zoom scope. My nine year old nephew can shoot a quarter
> size
> group with it. A few 25 rnd mags makes it at least effective.
good, maybe you can send his retarded, mini-goober ass to afghanistan so
those
ragheaded teenaged freedom fighting girls can turn him from an ignorant
hillbilly
into a man, unlike you and the rest of the fat ass gutless, loud mouth
cowards and
rednecks
Ga...@comcast.net
"Jim Alder" <jima...@ssnet.com> wrote in message
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cracker bitch
Ga...@comcast.net
"Jim Alder" <jima...@ssnet.com> wrote in message
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hillbilly, but then we all knew that already
Jim Alder
> "Jim Alder" <jima...@ssnet.com> wrote...
>> "Gle...@teranews.com" <> wrote:
>>> "Jim Alder" <jima...@ssnet.com> wrote...
>>>> Bert Hyman <be...@iphouse.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>> dumb asses can't afford health insurance but they damn sure can afford
>>>>>> a gun and a pickup truck
>>>>>
>>>>> Sorry to hear that things haven't worked out for you as you'd hoped.
>>>>>
>>>>> Good luck.
>>>>
>>>> Why are you sorry? It sounds like whatever cesspool of
>>>> self-loathing he landed in was well-deserved for this
>>>> pathetic waste of skin and air.
>>>
>>> watch that blood pressure gomer, we know how you fat ass,
>>> deranged,diabetic crackers are,
>>> we don't want to be paying those ER costs for your fat ass, so if you're
>>> gonna have a stroke, die quickly
>>
>> If YOU should wind up in an ER, here's hoping it's due to a
>> well-deserved
>> asskicking. Hope it winds up on YouTube.
>
> right gomer, looking for someone else to do the man's job you fat ass,
> gutless, loud mouth, sissy crackers can't do ?
It's not a man's job to go looking for you in your mommy's basement and
drag you kicking and shrieking like a little girl into the sunlight. I
wouldn't waste my time. Doing it metaphorically here is pretty much a waste of
time as it is.
> stay tuned shithead, I suspect it won't be long before you simple and feeble
> minded goobers let those
> big mouths overload those fat asses and you rile up the wrong people
That wouldn't be you, pussy boy.
Jim Alder
@newsfe16.iad:
You don't know anything about men, pussy boy. Except maybe how one feels
going in.
Bert Hyman
<Ga...@comcast.net> wrote:
> gomer
> crackers
> shithead
> goobers
Hey! You left out "hillbilly!"
Your unpleasant experience with hillbillies as a child; was it like in
the movie "Deliverance?"
Did you squeal like a pig?
--
Bert Hyman St. Paul, MN be...@iphouse.com
Jim Alder
@newsfe10.iad:
Sorry, pussy boy, but I've been shooting and collecting guns for years. Did
a little reloading for a few years, but not lately.
I guess we can add me to the gargantuan list of things you don't know shit
about, huh? Here's a short lesson for you on this one issue; There are dozens
of brands, styles and types of 22 ammunition, from CCI Stingers on down, and
they each have a different muzzle velocity. That's why Lee's question was a
stupid one.
Jim Alder
@newsfe08.iad:
Then he's just as stupid as you are, pussy boy, and it's sad to think
there are two of you.
Gray Ghost
More than that unfortuneately, look how many votes Obama got. Think we can
build a padded cell big enough for all of them?
Jim Alder
216.250.188.141:
> In news:7JUOm.22068$ET3....@newsfe17.iad "Gle...@teranews.com"
> <Ga...@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>> gomer
>> crackers
>> shithead
>> goobers
>
> Hey! You left out "hillbilly!"
>
> Your unpleasant experience with hillbillies as a child; was it like in
> the movie "Deliverance?"
>
> Did you squeal like a pig?
He couldn't squeal. He was the one with the 'purty mouth.'
Jim Alder
Oh, there were several reasons to vote for Obama, we can't blame it all on
stupidity. I think racial guilt played a big part, but it's so hard to prove.
Jim Alder
> Jim Alder <jima...@ssnet.com> wrote in
>> Then he's just as stupid as you are, pussy boy, and it's sad to think
>> there are two of you.
>>
>
> More than that unfortuneately, look how many votes Obama got. Think we can
> build a padded cell big enough for all of them?
Oh, and padded cells are for the insane, not the inane. You just need to
pad the sharp corners of the furniture they'll walk into, and cover the
electrical outlets. Wait until Obama is shown to be the huge mistake he is
rapidly showing himself to be. THEN they'll be insane.
Gray Ghost
And racial guilt isn't stupid?