Good reply to Sharpton's: "Hollywood is like the Rocky Mountains, the higher you get, the whiter it gets."

[wizardr...@msn.com]

Col. Allen West wrote about Al Sharpton's response to the Oscars' "all-white" nominees and his suggestion puts the "controversy" into proper perspective.

Sharpton said this:

The movie industry is like the Rocky Mountains, the higher you get, the whiter it gets. I have called an emergency meeting early next week in Hollywood with the task force to discuss possible action around the Academy Awards.

The lack of diversity in today's Oscar nominations is appalling and while it is good that Selma was nominated for 'Best Picture,' it's ironic that they nominated a story about the racial shutout around voting while there is a racial shutout around the Oscar nominations. With all of the talent in Selma and other Black movies this year, it is hard to believe that we have less diversity in the nominations today than in recent history.

West, never shy about pushing back against black leaders such as Sharpton, pointed out that this is only the second time in the last twenty years that only white folks were nominated for best actor, actress or director.

He then concluded with this:

But I'll tell you where there IS a clear pattern of racism. It's in the NFL!

I did a quick review of the starting line-ups for the four playoff teams (Seahawks, Packers, Colts and Patriots) and 65 percent of those players are black. I'd say that's a little lop-sided, wouldn't you -- considering blacks make up only around 14 percent of the U.S. population.

And don't get me started on the racism in the NBA!

If you want to talk about no diversity in honoring excellence, look at the recipients of the Most Valuable Player awards over the last 58 years.

It's shocking! Seventy-eight percent of all MVPs in history have been black! Boy, I'd say the NBA is way too black. We ought to hold an emergency meeting to discuss possible action against the NBA, right Al? I mean it's simply not FAIR.

In the NBA, it's like outer space Al -- the higher you get, the darker it gets.

[mg]

On Wed, 21 Jan 2015 16:04:11 -0800 (PST), wizardr...@msn.com
wrote:

>Col. Allen West wrote about Al Sharpton's response to the Oscars' "all-white" nominees and his suggestion puts the "controversy" into proper perspective.
>
>Sharpton said this:
>
>The movie industry is like the Rocky Mountains, the higher you get, the whiter it gets. I have called an emergency meeting early next week in Hollywood with the task force to discuss possible action around the Academy Awards.
>
>The lack of diversity in today's Oscar nominations is appalling and while it is good that Selma was nominated for 'Best Picture,' it's ironic that they nominated a story about the racial shutout around voting while there is a racial shutout around the Oscar nominations. With all of the talent in Selma and other Black movies this year, it is hard to believe that we have less diversity in the nominations today than in recent history.

. . .

I like(d) Morgan Freeman, Danny Glover, Sidney Poitier, Denzel
Washington, Laurence Fishburne and Ossie Davis. I'm sure there are
more than that, but I don't watch many movies, anymore, and my memory
isn't all that great.

However, if the black community, thinks that Hollywood ought to make
more movies steeped in their rich and wonderful black culture, with
the actors speaking their marvelously unique version of the English
language, they have another think coming. I'm just not interested and
I'm not going to pay good money to watch it.

[Gary]

On Wed, 21 Jan 2015 18:48:44 -0700, mg <no...@none.nl> wrote:

>On Wed, 21 Jan 2015 16:04:11 -0800 (PST), wizardr...@msn.com
>wrote:
>
>>Col. Allen West wrote about Al Sharpton's response to the Oscars' "all-white" nominees
> and his suggestion puts the "controversy" into proper perspective.
>>
>>Sharpton said this:
>>
>>The movie industry is like the Rocky Mountains, the higher you get, the whiter it gets.
>> I have called an emergency meeting early next week in Hollywood with the task force to
>> discuss possible action around the Academy Awards.
>>
>>The lack of diversity in today's Oscar nominations is appalling and while it is good that Selma
> was nominated for 'Best Picture,' it's ironic that they nominated a story about the racial shutout
>> around voting while there is a racial shutout around the Oscar nominations. With all of the talent
>> in Selma and other Black movies this year, it is hard to believe that we have less diversity in the
>> nominations today than in recent history.
. . .
>
>I like(d) Morgan Freeman, Danny Glover, Sidney Poitier, Denzel
>Washington, Laurence Fishburne and Ossie Davis

The only one I ever enjoyed watching (for over five minutes)
was Freeman. I saw one of his movies a few years ago.
Something about prison life. It was pretty good.

> I'm sure there are
>more than that, but I don't watch many movies, anymore, and my memory
>isn't all that great.
>
>However, if the black community, thinks that Hollywood ought to make
>more movies steeped in their rich and wonderful black culture, with
>the actors speaking their marvelously unique version of the English
>language, they have another think coming. I'm just not interested and
>I'm not going to pay good money to watch it.

I think the folks at the Oscars are suffering "negro
fatigue". Instead of being grateful for all the
Oscars they got -- which they didn't deserve -- Fat Al
thinks there should be a minimum quota for blacks. Simply
because they are there.

[mg]

Crimson Tide, with Denzil Washington, was a great movie. Roger Ebert
gave it 3.5 stars out of 4 and a thumbs up. It didn't win any academy
awards, but it was nominated for a whole bunch of them. It made $174
million for the studios.

I'm not so sure if the black talking heads on TV care about great
movies, though. I think they just want Hollywood to help them promote
their culture and I don't think they understand that the rest of
America isn't interested in their culture. If I was that interested in
culture, I'd go buy a sociology book.

[Gary]

I hate to sound totally ignorant, but I had no idea they
even claimed to have a culture.

I suppose they are talking about "black history" ? Most
of which is fiction. African American history has two
periods. One period ended when they left the old country
-- and ceased to lay on the banks of the Congo and eat
grasshoppers and lizards.

The present period began in the 1940s when liberals decided
that if they let the blacks live with white folks -- they
would become "just like us".

Their idea was that all Americans should be intellectually
equal. So they wanted to let the blacks rise to our level.
(It sounded good on paper). So that great (semi) black god
-- Earl Warren -- laid the foundation in 1954.

By the 1970s, the liberals finally decided the blacks were
not going to "rise". So, what to do make everybody
equal ? Why not lower the standards and abilities of
the whites ? Damn good idea ! So the public school
system went to work to bring that about. They taught the
little white children that --- "being black is cool !"

Yes, yes ! I know there are exceptions to the rule.
There are many intelligent and hard working black people
who have accomplished the American dream. But they only
did it when they decided to quit being Africans .... and
become Americans.

It's the other 85% of blacks (well known in Ferguson) that I
refer to.

[Gary]

On Thu, 22 Jan 2015 05:55:01 -0700, mg <no...@none.nl> wrote:

>I'm not so sure if the black talking heads on TV care about great
>movies, though. I think they just want Hollywood to help them promote
>their culture and I don't think they understand that the rest of
>America isn't interested in their culture. If I was that interested in
>culture, I'd go buy a sociology book.

They use the black movies to re-write Americn history.

It won't be long these "historians" will discover that the
Founders had gotten the idea for the Constitution by
over-hearing their slaves discussing how things had been
back in Africa. And that Abe Lincoln was actually the son
of an African albino.

There appears to me to be a concentrated effort in academia
-- and the media -- to re-write history in such a way as to
make the black people look like highly intelligent heroes,
and the white Southerners to look like villainous dullards.

Look at what the Oscars gave us for best picture: "12 Years
a Slave".

And look at the recent winner of the Pulitzer prize for
history. And the runner up.

2014 Pulitzer Prize Winner for history:
http://www.nytimes.com/2014/04/15/business/media/2014-pulitzer-prize-winners-in-journalism-letters-drama-and-music.html?_r=0

"The Internal Enemy: Slavery and War in Virginia, 1772-1832"

1st runner up --

"A Dreadful Deceit: The Myth of Race From the Colonial Era
to Obama’s America"

[mg]

To be honest, I don't think blacks have a culture, either -- at least
not one worth bragging about and I've posted that opinion on this
newsgroup before. They need to integrate into the "WASP" culture,
which isn't all that great, either, but at least that way, they aren't
maintaining an artificial boundry between whites and blacks that is
encouraged and perpetuated by black leaders in order to make an easy
buck and promote their grand idea of increasing their political power.

[A]

mg wrote:
> To be honest, I don't think blacks have a culture, either -- at least
> not one worth bragging about and I've posted that opinion on this
> newsgroup before.

No culture? Ever hear of the Blues or Jazz? Without Robert Johnson,
Elvis would have continued to drive a truck and the Beatles and the
Stones would have never happened.

Do Langston Hughes or James Baldwin ring a bell? I didn't know you were
also a racist, MG.

--
A

[Gary]

On Thu, 22 Jan 2015 14:57:29 +0100, A <a...@a.com> wrote:

>mg wrote:
>> To be honest, I don't think blacks have a culture, either -- at least
>> not one worth bragging about and I've posted that opinion on this
>> newsgroup before.
>
>No culture? Ever hear of the Blues or Jazz?

Ah, yes ! The early explorers talked about how they heard
all that Jazz music echoing up the Congo river. I
suppose the natives also invented brass wind instruments.

>Without Robert Johnson,
>Elvis would have continued to drive a truck and the Beatles and the
>Stones would have never happened.
>
>Do Langston Hughes or James Baldwin ring a bell? I didn't know you were
>also a racist, MG.

If Elvis had made a fortune by throwing cow manure around
-- would you credit the cows for his fortune ?

[Gary]

On Thu, 22 Jan 2015 06:52:02 -0700, mg <no...@none.nl> wrote:

>>Yes, yes ! I know there are exceptions to the rule.
>>There are many intelligent and hard working black people
>>who have accomplished the American dream. But they only
>>did it when they decided to quit being Africans .... and
>>become Americans.
>>
>>It's the other 85% of blacks (well known in Ferguson) that I
>>refer to.
>
>To be honest, I don't think blacks have a culture, either -- at least
>not one worth bragging about and I've posted that opinion on this
>newsgroup before. They need to integrate into the "WASP" culture,
>which isn't all that great, either,

Sure, it may or may not be great. And we can always
debate that issue. But only people who are "inside" a
culture can benefit from it. And -- like it or not --
America is the product of the WASPs.

>but at least that way, they aren't
>maintaining an artificial boundry between whites and blacks that is
>encouraged and perpetuated by black leaders in order to make an easy
>buck and promote their grand idea of increasing their political power.

That is my problem with blacks. Why can't they do what
millions of other immigrants did ? Adopt the culture and
become an American.

A lot of posters have called me a racist. And maybe I am.
But I'm not a racist by the standards taught in my youth.
By real racists. The true racist believes blacks are
genetically inferior. In other words -- born that way.
I do not. I think the inferiority is a cultural thing.
And all they have to do is drop the "African" -- and
emphasize the "American" -- and they'll be as good as
anybody.

[mg]

On Thu, 22 Jan 2015 14:57:29 +0100, A <a...@a.com> wrote:

Yes, that's true and Elvis is probably my all-time favorite singer.
However the Scots, for example, have a great culture of bag pipes, but
that doesn't keep them from integrating into the American culture.

My contention is that black children are being held down by whites who
say they're not as good as anyone else and black leaders who have a
political agenda. Nobody really cares about the children. Liberals
don't really care about the children and conservatives don't care
about the children. A Baptist preacher, like Jeremiah Wright isn't
thinking about the children when he preaches "God damn America". He
might be right about America, but that's not the point. Sometimes I
think America ought to be God-damned, too. The point is that leaders
like Jeremiah Wright ought to be preaching chasty and education and
morality and individual responsibility instead of using black children
as political pawns.

Where is Jeremiah Wright now, by the way? It appears that he is living
in a million-dollar mansion while black children are still living in
the slums:
http://articles.chicagotribune.com/2012-01-17/news/ct-met-rev-jeremiah-wright-box-0118-20120117_1_low-profile-wright-historic-home

How about Baptist minister and TV talk show host Al Sharpton, for
instance. What's his net worth? His net worth is about $5 million.
What has he done for the children? Long after he is gone, the children
will still be living in the slums. All he talks about is politics. Why
doesn't he ever talk to young blacks and tell them to get an education
and quit having illegitimate children? I know that here in Utah,
that's what the Mormon church tells their children and the Mormon
clergy, incidentally, work for free. They don't make any money off
their religion, but they do care about their children.
http://www.therichest.com/celebnetworth/celeb/televangelists/al-sharpton-net-worth/

[A]

The real problem is that the blacks are the only immigrants who went to
the USA against their will. Since then the whites have a problem with
guilt and the blacks have a problem by thinking "you owe me". Blacks
have no problem adjusting in Europe so, unlike what ignorant idiots like
Gary believe, they were not "born that way".

--
A

[mg]

I never thought about it that way, but I think that's an excellent way
to look at it.

[Werner]

On Thursday, January 22, 2015 at 10:04:32 AM UTC-5, A wrote:
>...

> The real problem is that the blacks are the only immigrants who went to
> the USA against their will. Since then the whites have a problem with
> guilt and the blacks have a problem by thinking "you owe me". Blacks
> have no problem adjusting in Europe so, unlike what ignorant idiots like
> Gary believe, they were not "born that way".
>
> --
> A

You completely dismiss European colonialism in Africa where blacks were exploited in sito, so to speak. Africans resisted such colonial exploitation. They rebelled against it.

In the US, after the Civil War, blacks could have returned to Africa where fellow Africans had forceably rounded them up and sold them to slavery. They voluntarily chose to remain in the US. Why do you suppose this was? I'd say they recognized that live in the US was better than life in Africa. Whites need not feel guilty and blacks should be thankful for staying here.

[GLOBALIST]

Subject line should have read: "how sad"

[Gary]

That's simply not true. In the early 1700s many
Englishmen were taken out of prison and sent over here as
indentured servants. With no choice in the matter. After
they worked for 5 or 10 years, they were released. They
could stay -- or return home.

> Since then the whites have a problem with guilt

A white person has to be awfully weak minded to feel guilty.
Those slave had it a lot better than the ones left behind in
Africa. At least Ol' Master fed them something better
than lizards and grasshoppers. (Their normal African
victuals.)

>and the blacks have a problem by thinking "you owe me".

"Us likes dat gimme free stuff". Sure beats working for
a living.

> Blacks have no problem adjusting in Europe so,

That's because Europeans look at them not as "aliens" but as
"oddities". An Englishmen thinks they might make great
house pets. ( I know -- because I was there and saw it
happen)

> unlike what ignorant idiots like Gary believe, they were not "born that way".

That's not what my post said. If you can't quote it right
-- don't quote it at all.

[A]

Werner wrote:
> On Thursday, January 22, 2015 at 10:04:32 AM UTC-5, A wrote:
>> ... The real problem is that the blacks are the only immigrants who
>> went to the USA against their will. Since then the whites have a
>> problem with guilt and the blacks have a problem by thinking "you
>> owe me". Blacks have no problem adjusting in Europe so, unlike what
>> ignorant idiots like Gary believe, they were not "born that way".
>>
>> -- A
>
>
> You completely dismiss European colonialism in Africa where blacks
> were exploited in sito, so to speak. Africans resisted such colonial
> exploitation. They rebelled against it.

I didn't forget because it's not relevant.

>
> In the US, after the Civil War, blacks could have returned to Africa
> where fellow Africans had forceably rounded them up and sold them to
> slavery. They voluntarily chose to remain in the US. Why do you
> suppose this was? I'd say they recognized that live in the US was
> better than life in Africa. Whites need not feel guilty and blacks
> should be thankful for staying here.
>

I see history isn't your strong point either. Care to cite how, who
would pay, etc. that the blacks could have returned to Africa? And no
zero hedge bullshit blog site.

--
A

[Gary]

On Thu, 22 Jan 2015 16:04:19 +0100, A <a...@a.com> wrote:

>The real problem is that the blacks are the only immigrants who went to
>the USA against their will.

Let me turn your argument over to an expert on the subject.
In the February 1850 edition of DeBows Review, Governor
Hammond explains that the slaves are very happy. None of
them ever killed themselves.
-----------------------------------------------

Debow's review Feb 1850

GOV. HAMMOND'S LETTERS ON SLAVERY. —-No. 3.

PERHAPS a few general facts will best illustrate the
treatment this race receives at our hands. It is
acknowledged that it increases at least as rapidly as the
white. I believe it is an established principle, that
population thrives in proportion to its comforts. But when
it is considered that these people are not recruited by
immigration from abroad, as the whites are, and that they
are usually settled on our richest and least healthy lands,
the fact of their equal comparative in crease and greater
longevity, outweighs a thousand abolition false hoods, in
favor of the leniency and providence of our management of
them. It is also admitted that there are incomparably fewer
cases of insanity and suicide among them than among the
whites. The fact is. that, among the slaves of the African
race, these things are almost wholly unknown. However
frequent suicide may have been among those brought from
Africa. I can say that, in my time, I cannot re member to
have known or heard of a single instance of deliberate
self-destruction, and but of one of suicide at all.

[chatnoir]

They helped build the country - why should they leave!

[Werner]

Its called emigration. Millions of white and Asian people emigrated to the US. Most paid their own way. Others agreed to be indentured to a US citizen sponsors and worked for a time to repay that sponsor. My family used the latter method. If I recall, there were American former slaves who emigrated to Liberia.

[Gary]

Abe Lincoln wanted to send all the freed slaves back to
Africa. Had he not been murdered -- he'd have done it.