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Is Trump A Democrat Plant?

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El Castor

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Oct 19, 2021, 1:53:39 PM10/19/21
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A piece in today's Wall Street Journal suggests that Trump might be a
Democrat plant to disgrace Republicans. Sounds plausible. (-8

Josh Rosenbluth

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Oct 19, 2021, 2:06:01 PM10/19/21
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On 10/19/2021 10:53 AM, El Castor wrote:
> A piece in today's Wall Street Journal suggests that Trump might be a
> Democrat plant to disgrace Republicans. Sounds plausible. (-8

Is it working?

El Castor

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Oct 19, 2021, 3:43:10 PM10/19/21
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Yes. I was an admirer of his policies, but his stolen election crap
and especially his inaction and apparent defense of the raid on the
Capitol are poisonous and unacceptable. That said, none of Trump's
nonsense endears me in the slightest to Biden and the increasingly
Marxist leanings of the Democrat Party.

Josh Rosenbluth

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Oct 19, 2021, 7:37:48 PM10/19/21
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Why are so many Republicans sticking with Trump when there are plenty of
alternatives within the GOP?

El Castor

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Oct 20, 2021, 12:45:15 AM10/20/21
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On Tue, 19 Oct 2021 16:37:44 -0700, Josh Rosenbluth
Your guess is as good as mine -- presumably because they like his
effective border policy and 400 miles of fence, three Supreme Court
appointments, tax cuts including his very important corporate cut,
massive deregulation, recognition of the economic, technologic and
trade problems China poses, Middle East peace deals -- including
acknowledgment of the capitol of Israel, lowest unemployment rates in
years -- including record low Black unemployment and increased Black
home ownership, and his Operation Warp Speed which gave us vaccines
far faster than Democrats said was possible. Etc.

Bottom line, Trump was a non-politician and a populist -- qualities
that probably had and have a lot of appeal to his supporters. If he
had toned down his reaction to the election, and most importantly
openly opposed and resisted the Capitol raiders he would have my
support.

Josh Rosenbluth

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Oct 20, 2021, 2:41:00 AM10/20/21
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On 10/19/2021 9:45 PM, El Castor wrote:
> On Tue, 19 Oct 2021 16:37:44 -0700, Josh Rosenbluth
> <no...@nowhere.com> wrote:
>
>> On 10/19/2021 12:43 PM, El Castor wrote:
>>> On Tue, 19 Oct 2021 11:05:57 -0700, Josh Rosenbluth
>>> <no...@nowhere.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 10/19/2021 10:53 AM, El Castor wrote:
>>>>> A piece in today's Wall Street Journal suggests that Trump might be a
>>>>> Democrat plant to disgrace Republicans. Sounds plausible. (-8
>>>>
>>>> Is it working?
>>>
>>> Yes. I was an admirer of his policies, but his stolen election crap
>>> and especially his inaction and apparent defense of the raid on the
>>> Capitol are poisonous and unacceptable. That said, none of Trump's
>>> nonsense endears me in the slightest to Biden and the increasingly
>>> Marxist leanings of the Democrat Party.
>>
>> Why are so many Republicans sticking with Trump when there are plenty of
>> alternatives within the GOP?
>
> Your guess is as good as mine

Mine's better. Elected Republicans are cowards, too afraid to incur the
wrath of the electorate. The rank and file are dumbfucks that think
Trump cares about them.

-- presumably because they like his
> effective border policy and 400 miles of fence, three Supreme Court
> appointments, tax cuts including his very important corporate cut,
> massive deregulation, recognition of the economic, technologic and
> trade problems China poses, Middle East peace deals -- including
> acknowledgment of the capitol of Israel, lowest unemployment rates in
> years -- including record low Black unemployment and increased Black
> home ownership, and his Operation Warp Speed which gave us vaccines
> far faster than Democrats said was possible. Etc.
>
> Bottom line, Trump was a non-politician and a populist -- qualities
> that probably had and have a lot of appeal to his supporters. If he
> had toned down his reaction to the election, and most importantly
> openly opposed and resisted the Capitol raiders he would have my
> support.

Trump is a man-baby, incapable of admitting defeat.

El Castor

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Oct 20, 2021, 1:19:00 PM10/20/21
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On Tue, 19 Oct 2021 23:40:57 -0700, Josh Rosenbluth
Now, now, you're getting emotional. Can you admit that the policies I
outlined were beneficial? I'd add one more -- energy independence.
Biden has us back on relying on the Middle East for oil. As for the
man-baby nonsense, I see Trump's behavior toward the end of his term
as somewhat more sinister than the work of a baby. If the "raiders"
had succeeded in securing the Capitol and halting the ballot count we
might have been looking at something resembling a coup. No way of
knowing if that was what Trump had in mind, but I am grateful that
Pence stepped in and took over. As for your side of the aisle, CRT,
1619, ANTIFA, BLM, etc look like elements of the Left promoting an
ultimate re-make of our government even more sinister than what the
Capitol raiders had in mind, and the root cause of the civil war polls
I've cited.

Josh Rosenbluth

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Oct 20, 2021, 3:20:24 PM10/20/21
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The result of Jan 6 could have been something sinister, but the impetus
was man-baby behavior.

El Castor

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Oct 20, 2021, 4:50:44 PM10/20/21
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On Wed, 20 Oct 2021 12:20:21 -0700, Josh Rosenbluth
Man-Baby? Whatever floats your boat.

If it takes a Baby to reduce what had become the highest corporate tax
rate in the world, secure what had become an open border (and once
again is), boost Black employment and home ownership, stand up to
China, make us energy independent, and finance rapid development of a
COVID vaccine, then Baby it is. You may find those accomplishments
offensive -- I do not, however after Trump's performance in the waning
months of his presidency I would rather he did not run again. If he
does run, barring sincere apologies on his part, I will abstain. What
I will not do is vote for a Marxist, or increasingly senile tool of
Marxist handlers. (-8

Josh Rosenbluth

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Oct 20, 2021, 5:25:27 PM10/20/21
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... even though because he is a man-baby, we almost had coup. From the
very start, Trump was not qualified to be president because of his
character. And I would say that if he ran and governed as a liberal,
which he would have done - having no political philosophy, if that were
the easiest route to the White House for him.

El Castor

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Oct 21, 2021, 2:16:22 AM10/21/21
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On Wed, 20 Oct 2021 14:25:23 -0700, Josh Rosenbluth
Trump's good work, which I have listed, benefited millions. The final
months of his presidency did little harm, although I admit that if
successful it could have done a great deal of harm. Biden's presidency
on the other hand has been genuinely harmful. Afghanistan was a
disaster. How many died or were betrayed? The open border is also a
disaster. Destruction of our energy self sufficiency betrayed promises
made to Canada, leaves us dependent on Middle Eastern oil, and is
sending fuel and natural gas prices soaring. Caving to Iran freed up
billions that they will use for what -- certainly not our benefit --
and moves the Middle East one step closer to nuclear war. And it seems
that just now he has awakened to the fleet of container ships waiting
to be unloaded and the ports bursting with full containers which can't
be moved. What does that make Biden, a brilliant heroic leader, or an
elderly-baby? Wait, No! I've known better babies.

Josh Rosenbluth

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Oct 21, 2021, 12:52:03 PM10/21/21
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I don't care how much good work Trump did even if he were a liberal who
did everything I wanted him too. He's unqualified.

El Castor

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Oct 21, 2021, 1:33:06 PM10/21/21
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On Thu, 21 Oct 2021 09:51:59 -0700, Josh Rosenbluth
Once again, I am not defending Trump's personality or behavior in the
last months of his presidency, but the work he did in those first 3
1/2 years is of great importance -- as was his last project, Operation
Warp Speed. What has Biden accomplished -- other than enriching his
son, and possibly himself? An incompetent withdrawal from Aghanistan,
the border in turmoil, energy independence gone, and leaderless
trillion dollar entitlement bills that we can't begin to afford are
bouncing around congress. What's next?
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