Guru Gobind Singh ji- from a political view
Pavit Singh
"Sandeep Singh Brar" <san...@mail.io.org> wrote:
>Sat Sri Akal
>I came across this very interesting quote the other day:
>(Guru Gobind Singh, Krishna Avtar, Dasam Granth)
>"Kou kise ko rajnade hai
>Jo lai hai nij bal sit lai hai."
>(No people can have self-rule as a gift from another.
>It has to be seized through their own strength.)
I would be interested in studying Guru Gobind Singh ji's works for
thier political message as well as their spiritual message. Most of
our scholars have ignored Guru Gobind Singhji's political message but
some things that the Guru said have strong political implications.
For example the quote 'chirion se mein baaz turaon' has the
revolutionary message that the oppressed can overcome their conditions
and defeat those far stronger than them. If possible could anyone
reproduce some of Guru Gobind Singh ji's poltical works on this
newsgroup?
Sat Sri Akal!
Pavit Singh
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Sandeep S Bajwa
In article <4lvvo2...@titan.oit.umass.edu>,
Pavit Singh <p.s...@primenet.com> wrote:
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>"Sandeep Singh Brar" <san...@mail.io.org> wrote:
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>>Sat Sri Akal
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>>I came across this very interesting quote the other day:
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>>(Guru Gobind Singh, Krishna Avtar, Dasam Granth)
>
>>"Kou kise ko rajnade hai
>>Jo lai hai nij bal sit lai hai."
>
>>(No people can have self-rule as a gift from another.
>>It has to be seized through their own strength.)
>
>I would be interested in studying Guru Gobind Singh ji's works for
>thier political message as well as their spiritual message. Most of
>our scholars have ignored Guru Gobind Singhji's political message but
>some things that the Guru said have strong political implications.
>For example the quote 'chirion se mein baaz turaon' has the
>revolutionary message that the oppressed can overcome their conditions
>and defeat those far stronger than them. If possible could anyone
>reproduce some of Guru Gobind Singh ji's poltical works on this
>newsgroup?
>
>Sat Sri Akal!
>Pavit Singh
>
I recommend reading History of the Sikhs by Hari Ram Gupta, his ancestors
were given 'Bhure Shahi' by himself Guru Gobind singh ji when they
came to see him in Macchiwara Jungles. He has written seven books on
Sikh history, from the times of Guru Nanak till today. Really great work.
Also read Jadunath Sarkar, or Cunningham, these authors don't project
Guru ji with the same mystic personality as many Sikh authors do but
rather more subtle and human like personality. His mission, his ideals,
his poems, etc. are translated in detail. You might get offended by some
of their words, they quote profuesely from Muslim historians, like Mohd.
Latif and Ibid.
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Rajwinder Singh
Sandeep S Bajwa (ssb...@pitt.edu) wrote:
: Also read Jadunath Sarkar, or Cunningham, these authors don't project
: Guru ji with the same mystic personality as many Sikh authors do but
: rather more subtle and human like personality. His mission, his ideals,
: his poems, etc. are translated in detail. You might get offended by some
Jadunath Sarkar's works are sort of biased. He seems to presume
that the introduction of self-defence and military strength
somehow took the spirituality away, which is not at all the case.
-- Rajwinder Singh <ra...@bu.edu>
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A Sikh is like [a] fish in the ocean except his sea is [the] Gurbani
and his heritage. Gurbani -- the Guru Granth -- is what gives him life,
sustains him, nurtures him and makes him a Sikh. Without it, he is
spiritually dead -- like the fish out of water.
-- I.J.Singh, "Sikhs and Sikhism: A View With a Bias"
Sandeep S Bajwa
In article <4midpl$n...@wilde.oit.umass.edu>,
Rajwinder Singh <ra...@bu.edu> wrote:
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>Sandeep S Bajwa (ssb...@pitt.edu) wrote:
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>: Also read Jadunath Sarkar, or Cunningham, these authors don't project
>: Guru ji with the same mystic personality as many Sikh authors do but
>: rather more subtle and human like personality. His mission, his ideals,
>: his poems, etc. are translated in detail. You might get offended by some
>
>Jadunath Sarkar's works are sort of biased. He seems to presume
>that the introduction of self-defence and military strength
>somehow took the spirituality away, which is not at all the case.
>
>-- Rajwinder Singh <ra...@bu.edu>
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True!! They are biased. but we must read the other side of the fence too.
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Sandeep Singh Bajwa
http://www.pitt.edu/~ssbst3
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