Goddess of the Ocean?
JM
are male, and I can't relate as well to them, since I think of the Sea as
Female.
I seem to recall from somewhere that Aphrodite was also associated with the
Sea since she was born from Her.
/Starchilde
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>Does anyone know of any Goddess of the Sea? All oceanic deities I've found
>are male, and I can't relate as well to them, since I think of the Sea as
>Female.
>
>I seem to recall from somewhere that Aphrodite was also associated with the
>Sea since she was born from Her.
>
One just needs to look a bit deeper
Geofon - British
Afrekete - Afro/Carribean
Yemayá - Carribean
Mehetweret - Egyptian (Actually goddess of the ocean-sky)
Chalchiuhtlicue - Aztec (actually goddess of all sorts of water)
Yolkai Estsan - Navajo
Tethys - Greek
Mermaids and Sirens also, while not entirely goddesses, are women of
the sea.
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Susan Profit
>Does anyone know of any Goddess of the Sea?
Several of them.
Sedna is an Inuit Deity, Rhiannon had as one of her titles the Sea Mare
linked with her connection to the Moon, Morgana Le Fay was a demoted form
of a Sea Goddess, The Morrigan Macha has a tale about her coming form the
sea to take a human lover, several of the Greek nymphs were sea denizens
independant of Poseidon, and although I can't remember her name, one of
the Polynesian Deities was a Sea Goddess. That's just the tip of the
iceberg - look for water Deities in cultures that had sea coasts and don't
assume that riverine Divinities were not also Sea Goddesses - many that
has estruaries on sea coasts also had parts of themselves that were
considered sea dwellers.
>I seem to recall from somewhere that Aphrodite was also associated with the
>Sea since she was born from Her.
>/Starchilde
Not quite. She was born from the semen and blood that fell to the sea when
Zeus slew his father and took charge of Olympus. She was considered to be
born without a mother and half-sister to Zeus and Hera by virtue of
sharing the same father but the sea as the province of Poseidon was not
considered to be anything but a place the semen and blood stopped falling.
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Manny Olds
> Does anyone know of any Goddess of the Sea? All oceanic deities I've found
> are male, and I can't relate as well to them, since I think of the Sea as
> Female.
Ran is a goddess associated with the sea, in the Northern pantheon. Her
husband is Aegir.
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>Morgana Le Fay was a demoted form of a Sea Goddess,
be interested in more info on that, if it's from Morgen (sea born) that's
usually seen as a different male character in the Arthurian myths.
there's something nibbling at the back of my brain that says you're right,
but it's Morgwar her 'sister' and now a sea monster of the Cornish coast (a
la Nessie) rather than Morgana
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JM <Mistres...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Does anyone know of any Goddess of the Sea? All oceanic deities I've found
> are male, and I can't relate as well to them, since I think of the Sea as
> Female.
Well, Asherah, a Canaanite/Hebrew Goddess is often called the Goddess of the
Sea, but frankly, I've never heard exactly what that designation involves.
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The Well of Latis <dr...@princeton.crosswinds.net> wrote:
>On Sat, 17 Jul 1999 10:02:01 CST, "JM" <Mistres...@yahoo.com>
>wrote:
>
>>Does anyone know of any Goddess of the Sea? All oceanic deities I've found
>>are male, and I can't relate as well to them, since I think of the Sea as
>>Female.
>
>
To be more precise, Yemaya (accent on the last syllable) is the goddess
of the ocean in all the religions originating with the Yoruba people in
what is now southwestern Nigeria, including Ifa, Santeria, and Candomble.
Ifa is the traditional Yoruba form; Santeria and Candomble are the
syncretized Afro-diasporic forms. Santeria is what evolved in the Caribbean.
Candomble is its Brazilian sibling.
(To be even *more* precise, Yemaya is not a goddess but rather an orisha,
one of the helpers of Olofi (God) on earth. Santeria and its kindred
are actually monotheistic. But now I'm just being anal. :-)
Yemaya is often considered to be the mother of all the other orishas.
Obatala, the sky deity, is their father. Interestingly, both Obatala
and Yemaya have hermaphroditic aspects. In her manly form, Yemaya is
called Olokun (accent on the last syllable again), the old man of the
sea.
The point that someone else made about river goddesses is well-taken.
In Santeria, Oshun is the orisha of rivers and all flowing fresh water.
(Including gentle rain, IIRC.) It is said that at estuaries Oshun (oh,
BTW, accent on the last syllable :-) and Yemaya dance together joyously.
Luisah Teish's _Jambalaya_ has some decent information on Yemaya that
should be reasonably accessible to The Average Neopagan (tm). One thing,
though, that she doesn't mention is that Yemaya and Oya, the orisha of
wind and of the dead, *hate* each other and should *NEVER* be invoked
together. So, use caution.
Blessings,
Natalie
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bangarang
and not the goddess of the ocean itself, just the source or one of the
source from which it comes.
Shade andSweet Water,
Thorne
bangarang
I think that designation is because she has dominion over all of the earth.
Sweet Water,
Thorne
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bangarang
Also Tiamat, the Chaos Goddess of Anceint Summeria, is he Goddess of the
Deep Waters, the Oceans that surround the known world and are beneath it.
Sweet Water,
Thorne
David Dalton
>Does anyone know of any Goddess of the Sea? All oceanic deities I've found
>are male, and I can't relate as well to them, since I think of the Sea as
>Female.
Robert Graves, in his book The White Goddess, described
Sarah as a "laughing sea goddess" I think.
David
Natalie Ramsey
bangarang <bang...@highland.net> wrote:
>It should also be noted that in her Native form Yemaya is a river goddess
>and not the goddess of the ocean itself, just the source or one of the
>source from which it comes.
Really? It's my understanding that Yemaya has been the orisha of the
oceans for a *very* long time, and is understood as such even in
non-syncretized Yoruba traditions. In fact, the Yoruba have long
believed that all life comes from the sea, which ties in nicely to
the concept of Yemaya as the mother of all the orishas save Obatala.
Oshun, on the other hand, did start as the orisha of the Oshun River,
and only later came to be generalized to be the orisha of flowing fresh
water in general (as well as love and fertility).
I'll have to haul my books in for further detail. If you have any
supporting material, whether from a person or a book, I'd be quite
interested.
Blessings, ash'e,
bangarang
In the majority of the Yoruba living in the so-called country of Nigeria
(which is actually many little states that should be recognized by as
soveriegn individual states rather than the European Created nigeria),
Olokun is the sea and the god there of. As such he is the god of wealth as
such things that represent wealth red corral and cowrie shells come from the
sea.
Yemaya is actually the Goddess of a particular river which I think bares her
name in the North Western most part of Yorubaland (the area consisting of
the Ille city-states. In addition he is said to aid in childbirth and
other cool things. She is often identified with healing and all cool things
that are in flux (as opposed to Obata'la whose is cool things that are
stable). She is often reperesented as sea queen because of some cults that
identify her with wealth, insanity, and Western Life.
Much of this runs synch with the Mami Wata phenomenum in Western Africa.
Many cults there have turned the mermaid image and the lithograph of a snake
dancer into a powerful ocean goddess who did not exist before colonization.
Sweet Water,
Thorne
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On Sat, 17 Jul 1999 10:02:01 CST, "JM" <Mistres...@yahoo.com>
wrote:
>Does anyone know of any Goddess of the Sea? All oceanic deities I've found
>are male, and I can't relate as well to them, since I think of the Sea as
>Female.
>
>I seem to recall from somewhere that Aphrodite was also associated with the
>Sea since she was born from Her.
Errrr... she used to be depictred fully clothed riding a swan. She
was associated with the sea long before anything sexual. She is an
ancient sea-goddess.
This whole Goddess thing is my life-long hobby. I just created a
series of Goddess ritual kits and I have studied many Goddesses over
many years... It's a bit of a passion.
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> Does anyone know of any Goddess of the Sea? All oceanic deities I've found
> are male, and I can't relate as well to them, since I think of the Sea as
> Female.
>
> I seem to recall from somewhere that Aphrodite was also associated with the
> Sea since she was born from Her.
>
>
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