Is President Hinckley a Democrat?
Sean Luke
Republicans in the group, but I'm wondering if anyone has *specific*
evidence that President Hinckley is a Democrat or a Republican. Evidence
as in voting records or statements. The same goes for the rest of the
first presidency.
We all know that Hinckley's father (Bryant S. Hinckley) was a leader in
the Democratic Party in the state of Utah. I have received some
relatively good inside information that suggests all three of the first
presidency are democrats, though the source is not certain about Monson.
It's a pretty reliable source, but I'm looking for solid outside
information as well. Anyone?
Sean Luke
se...@cs.umd.edu
M w stone
> I have received some
>relatively good inside information that suggests all three of the first
>presidency are democrats, though the source is not certain about Monson.
>It's a pretty reliable source, but I'm looking for solid outside
>information as well. Anyone?
That surprises me - I recall an issue of "Church News" which showed Senator
Robert Dole standing with the three of them and apparetly trying to pass
himself off as a fourth member. Think it was in Jan '96
Mike Stone - Peterborough England
Last words of King Edward II.
"I always said that Roger Mortimer was a pain in the - - -A AARGHH!!!
David Bowie
:I know I'm gonna get called for smokin' dope on this one by the
:Republicans in the group, but I'm wondering if anyone has *specific*
:evidence that President Hinckley is a Democrat or a Republican.
:Evidence as in voting records or statements. The same goes for the
:rest of the first presidency.
Don't know about Gordon B. Hinckley or Thomas S. Monson, but not only is
James E. Faust a Democrat, he was a Democratic state senator in the Utah
legislature.
FWIW, i know one of the children of one of the Twelve (no further specifics
to maintain his/her privacy), who once mentioned to me that, among those in
the Qot12 and the FP who express political party allegiance, they're more or
less evenly split. I consider that complete hearsay, though, myself,
although FTR s/he was him/herself a diehard Republican.
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Victor and Caroldean Neves
>
> I know I'm gonna get called for smokin' dope on this one by the
> Republicans in the group, but I'm wondering if anyone has *specific*
> evidence that President Hinckley is a Democrat or a Republican. Evidence
> as in voting records or statements. The same goes for the rest of the
> first presidency.
This isn't documented evidence, but is fairly strong anecdotal evidence.
My brother is the same age as, and went to school with Kathleen
Hinkley. He is also, to my father's great sorrow, a life long liberal
Democrat. He organized for McGovern.
He asserts that the Hinkley's are Democrats.
I really doubt that you will find any reliable quotes of political
statements by any leader of the Church. Too many people are too
inclined to go off on strange paths based on random non doctrinal
statements by General Authorities.
. . . and that's alls I know!
Victor
Randall Payne
the presidency study the issues, get involved in their communities, and vote
their consciences, just like you have been counseled to do. Stop trying to
justify yourself by saying you are like someone else...don't be afraid to be
yourself.
Randall Payne
"quite possibly the only liberal Democrat left in Utah"
Sean Luke wrote in message <7afi9t$fel$1...@goliath.lightrealm.com>...
David Bowie
Randall Payne wrote...
:Sean Luke wrote...
:>I know I'm gonna get called for smokin' dope on this one by
:>the Republicans in the group, but I'm wondering if anyone has
:>*specific* evidence that President Hinckley is a Democrat or
:>a Republican. Evidence as in voting records or statements.
:>The same goes for the rest of the first presidency.
:Is anything more irrelevant??...
Sure--try reading the Nephi/Laban threads on this newsgroup. ;-)
Seriously, i think that it's *extremely* relevant at least for discussions
of the culture of Mormonism, and possibly even for questions of certain
aspects of Mormon doctrine. After all, there are a good number of Mormons
who claim a doctrinal rationale for espousing conservative sociopolitical
philosophies,[1] and if church leaders don't follow such a logical path in
their own lives it would seem to cast doubt on such a logical path, or at
least open it up to discussion.
<snip>
[1] Whereas i'm a Mormon who claims a doctrinal rationale for espousing a
hyperliberal sociopolitical philosophy. Go figure.
David "Contrarian" Bowie
Sean Luke
> We all know that Hinckley's father (Bryant S. Hinckley) was a leader in
> the Democratic Party in the state of Utah.
...and of course, Faust is a former Utah Democrat politician.
Sean
Raymond Bingham
>aspects of Mormon doctrine. After all, there are a good number of Mormons
>who claim a doctrinal rationale for espousing conservative sociopolitical
>philosophies,[1] and if church leaders don't follow such a logical path in
>their own lives it would seem to cast doubt on such a logical path, or at
>least open it up to discussion.
Well, David as you put it, if there's at least some truth to be had
in pagan sex rituals, I think perhaps there may be some basis of truth
to be found in the democratic party. Just depends on if you're willing
to dig deep. ;-) (After the Easter is Satanic and this thread, that slip
I made about us all be satan-worshippers seems somehow more apt, now that
I think about it. :-)
Best regards,
PS. From one who often finds himself worshipping the devil... most of
the time involuntarily... ;-)
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Woody Brison
>...I think perhaps there may be some basis of truth
> to be found in the democratic party. Just depends on if you're willing
> to dig deep. ;-)
I blinked a bit on realizing that I had read yesterday that the
Republicans were going to run Ms. Hillary Clinton for the Senate.
There's some truth in the Democratic party you say? I think I'm
looking for a party that doesn't back any Clintons. Anybody know
of such a party in America, that a Mormon can be in?
Wood