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drahcir

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May 22, 2009, 12:42:56 AM5/22/09
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Answer: Islam

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/05/22/nyregion/22terror.html?_r=1&hp

I was all ready to make a post here to state that there are non-Muslim
terrorists, too, until I read that, as I suppose is nearly inevitable,
they were all Muslim.

Lee

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May 23, 2009, 10:56:39 PM5/23/09
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"drahcir" <justrich...@gmail.com> wrote in message =
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> Answer: Islam
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> http://www.nytimes.com/2009/05/22/nyregion/22terror.html?_r=3D1&hp
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> I was all ready to make a post here to state that there are non-Muslim
> terrorists, too, until I read that, as I suppose is nearly inevitable,
> they were all Muslim.
>

Some Muslims see them as freedom fighters, they fight for the freedom to =
blow people up or behead them when and where they wish.

Zuiko Azumazi

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May 23, 2009, 10:56:38 PM5/23/09
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"drahcir" <justrich...@gmail.com> wrote in message=20
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<snip> ...


> I was all ready to make a post here to state that there are non-Muslim
> terrorists, too, until I read that, as I suppose is nearly inevitable,
> they were all Muslim.

<snip> ...

Comment:-
Were they now? Isn't this an exercise in wishful thinking? Doesn't this=20
earlier NYTimes link refute and demolish this bigoted idea of yours about=
=20
Muslims and the existence of non-Muslim terrorists in America? :-

http://www.nytimes.com/2003/12/13/opinion/our-enemies-at-home.html

Extract:-
The Noonday case shows just how serious a threat we face from domestic=20
terrorists. Consider this year's other high-profile incident involving=20
rightist causes: the arrest of Eric Rudolph, accused of bombing abortion=20
clinics and the 1996 Olympics. During his five years in the wilderness, h=
e=20
was often viewed by the public and press as a lone fugitive. But law=20
enforcement officials have linked him to two national movements: the Army=
of=20
God, a biblically inspired underground network of anti-abortion extremist=
s;=20
and the Christian Identity movement, whose members believe that Jews are =
the=20
literal children of Satan, nonwhites are sub-human, and that Anglo-Saxon=20
Christians are the true descendants of the lost tribes of Israel.

The examples keep coming. James Kopp, who was found guilty earlier this y=
ear=20
in the 1998 shooting of Dr. Barnett Slepian in Buffalo was also affiliate=
d=20
with the Army of God. Matthew Hale, leader of the World Church of the=20
Creator, a white-supremacist group, was arrested in January in Chicago on=
=20
charges of soliciting the murder of a federal judge. In February, federal=
=20
officials arrested Rafael Davila, a former Army National Guard intelligen=
ce=20
officer from Washington State; they say Mr. Davila and his former wife=20
planned to distribute highly classified documents to white supremacists a=
nd=20
antigovernment groups in North Carolina, Texas and Georgia.
End extract.

AND

This anti-Muslimism hogwash of yours also doesn't align with the sober=20
'Militant Extremists in the United States' findings of the "Council on=20
Foreign Relations", does it? What about the many domestic American extrem=
ist=20
right-wing terrorists? Don't they pose the greatest threat to the United=20
States (see below)? Would you identify yourself as one of those because o=
f=20
your far right-wing beliefs? Aren't these terrorist groups and their memb=
ers=20
all American and by extension non-Muslim?

<Quote> ...
Which type of extremism poses the greatest threat to the United States?

Although environmental extremists were responsible for nearly all the=20
domestic terrorist attacks between 2002 and 2005, right-wing extremists a=
re=20
still considered the most dangerous to the United States, says the SPLC.=20
Right-wing extremist attacks are planned to target people, and if=20
successfully carried out, intend to kill many civilians. Ecoterrorist=20
attacks, on the other hand, aim to sabotage the infrastructure of busines=
ses=20
and corporations that endanger the earth; the groups do not aim to kill=20
massive amounts of people.

The FBI says right-wing extremists have the potential to carry out the mo=
st=20
deadly domestic attacks since they have a tendency to amass weapons and=20
explosives and have =93a propensity for violence.=94 Increasingly, right-=
wing=20
terrorism threats come from what the FBI calls the =93lone wolf=94 terror=
ist in=20
the FBI Strategic Plan 2004-2009. Such an individual is a fringe member o=
f a=20
formal extremist group but acts alone instead of carrying out a=20
group-planned attack. Despite limited funding, solo attacks can be deadly=
=20
and are difficult to detect. ....

http://www.cfr.org/publication/9236/

<Unquote> ...

So were all these homegrown terrorists Muslims? Maybe you think they are=20
petty criminals and not terrorists? Is that the disingenuous Islamophobe=20
idea you are floating?

As Kofi Annan said : "And in too many circles, disparaging remarks about=20
Muslims are allowed to pass without censure, with the result that prejudi=
ce=20
acquires a veneer of acceptance. ... When a new word enters the language,=
it=20
is often the result of a scientific advance or a diverting fad. But when =
the=20
world is compelled to coin a new term to take account of increasingly=20
widespread bigotry, that is a sad and troubling development. Such is the=20
case with
Islamophobia."

--
Peace
--
For those who do not think, it is best at least to rearrange their=20
prejudices once in a while. [Luther Burbank]

Zuiko Azumazi
zuiko....@gmail.com

Saqib Virk

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May 23, 2009, 10:56:38 PM5/23/09
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"drahcir" <justrich...@gmail.com> wrote in message

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SV
Answer: hatred

In the same newspaper on the same day:

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/05/22/us/22soldier.html?_r=1&ref

--
Peace,
S Virk


drahcir

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May 25, 2009, 1:25:42 PM5/25/09
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On May 23, 10:56=A0pm, "Saqib Virk" <sv...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> "drahcir" <justrichardsmu...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>
> news:07f1262f-ca9c-4dc6...@o14g2000vbo.googlegroups.com...
>
> > Answer: Islam
>
> >http://www.nytimes.com/2009/05/22/nyregion/22terror.html?_r=3D1&hp

>
> > I was all ready to make a post here to state that there are non-Muslim
> > terrorists, too, until I read that, as I suppose is nearly inevitable,
> > they were all Muslim.
>
> SV
> Answer: hatred

You are correct, if you mean that Islam seems to breed hatred. I
agree. What is more disturbing, however, is how Muslims seem much more
ready than other groups to act upon that hatred without any regard
whatever for common human morality. One purpose of religion is to
inhibit the baser instincts of man - Islam seems to encourage them.


>
> In the same newspaper on the same day:
>

> http://www.nytimes.com/2009/05/22/us/22soldier.html?_r=3D1&ref

You obviously don't comprehend the difference between a crime and
terrorism.

drahcir

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May 25, 2009, 1:25:08 PM5/25/09
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On May 23, 10:56=A0pm, "Zuiko Azumazi" <zuiko.azum...@gmail.com> wrote:
> "drahcir" <justrichardsmu...@gmail.com> wrote in message=3D20
>
> news:07f1262f-ca9c-4dc6...@o14g2000vbo.googlegroups.com...
>
> <snip> ...> I was all ready to make a post here to state that there are n=

on-Muslim
> > terrorists, too, until I read that, as I suppose is nearly inevitable,
> > they were all Muslim.
>
> <snip> ...
>
> Comment:-
> Were they now?

Yes, they were.

Isn't this an exercise in wishful thinking?

No, it isn't. If's fact.

Doesn't this=3D20


> earlier NYTimes link refute and demolish this bigoted idea of yours about=

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> =3D20


> Muslims and the existence of non-Muslim terrorists in America?

I made a simple statement. I said that these terrorists are Muslim.
That is fact. I then said that that is nearly inevitable. I base that
on statistics for worldwide terrorism. Regarding your link, I didn't
bother reading it, as it couldn't possibly be relevant, since it dates
from 2003. All that means is that, after you conducted an exhaustive
search, you were unable to find any evidence of non-Muslim domestic
terrorism after 2003 - you reinforced my conclusion. Moreover, had the
Muslim plot to destroy synagogues been achieved during some religious
gathering, the death toll from just one would have dwarfed all of the
below. Instead of living your life defending the indefensible, why not
ask some meaningful questions and come up with some answers that at
least try to arrive at the truth?

> http://www.nytimes.com/2003/12/13/opinion/our-enemies-at-home.html
<snip>

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