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101 Proofs: Was the Quran Copied from the Bible?

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Abdalla Alothman

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Time and time again, we Muslims have to endure accusations that our
Qur'an is copied from the Bible. Below are 101 proofs that makes it
impossible for the Qur'an to be copied from the Bible.


1 - Who was created first, Adam or Satan? The Quran says Satan, the
Bible doesn't say anything.

2 - Who was created first, Adam or the Angles? The Quran says the Angels,
the Bible doesn't say anything.

3 - Why doesn't the Bible mention that Noah had
two wives, one was disobedient, and she died.
And another which was saved.

4 - Why does the Bible say that Noah's ark is in Ararat
but it was discovered in Al-Judyy, as the Quran says so?

5 - Why does the Bible say that God afflicted women for Eve's
sin, and the Quran doesn't tell us such thing.

6 - Where does the Bible tell us about the story of Aad and Thamood.

7 - Where does the Bible mention Prophet Saleh.

8 - Where does the Bible mention Prophet Huud.

9 - Where does the Bible mention Prophet Shu'ayb.

10 - Where does the Bible refer to Al-Khidr.

11 - Where does the Bible mention Luqmaan.

12 - Why doesn't the Bible mention the story of the Cow that happened
between Moses and the Jews.

13 - Where do you find in the Quran any reference to Hosea, Malachi,
Micha, Jude, Nahum, Nehemiah, Obadaiah, Esther, Joel, Ruth, etc.

14 - Why doesn't the Bible mention the story of Thul-Qarnayn.

15 - Why doesn't the Bible mention the story of the People of the Cave.

16 - Why doesn't the Bible mention the story of Antioch in Surat Yasin.

17 - Why does the Bible say that Jesus was crucified, and the Quran says
that he was saved.

18 - Why does the Bible say that Abraham sacrificed his only begotten son,
Jacob, and forgets that he had another son called Ishamael, who is older
than Jacob.

19 - Regarding the dream Joseph had in Genesis 37, why is it fulfilled in
the Quran and not fulfilled in the Bible? Could it be because that
Joseph's mother died before Joseph had his dream? Bad prophecy.

20 - Why is it that the Bible tells us that the Holy Spirit had sex with
Mary, and the Quran tells us that the Angel who visited Mary told
her that she will bear a son, and he is ONLY informing her of what
God has decreed?

21 - Why is it that the Bible tells us that Moses was adopted by Pharaoh's
daughter, and the Quran tells us it was Pharaoh's wife.

22 - Why is it that the Quran tells us that Lut was a pious prophet, and the
Bible tells us that he had sex with his daughters?

23 - Why is it that the Quran tells us in Sura 19 and 20 that Moses was a
special chosen prophet who was raised under God's supervision, and the
Bible tells us that he died because he didn't disobeyed God?

24 - Why is it that the Bible says that it is written with the false pen
of the scribe in Jeremiah 8:8, and the Quran tells us that it has
no discrepancies?

25 - Why is it that the Bible tells us that Pharaoh did not drown, and
the Quran tells us that he drowned, but Allah left his body as a
sign to mankind. When they dissected Pharaoh's body, they found out
that his body had too much salt inside it. You say the Quran is copied
from the Bible? I say you are ignorant.

26 - Why does the Bible tells us in Genesis that God had to take a walk to
find Adam, and the Quran tells us that God's knowledge doesn't require
that He walks?

27 - Why is it that the Quran tells us that Jesus spoke in the cradle, but
the Bible knows nothing about the childhood of Jesus?

28 - Why is it that the Quran tells us that Jesus made miracles by giving
life to statues made from clay?

29 - The Quran tells us that Aaron is innocent; he did not make the golden
calf, but a man called Al-Samirri (A person who organizes songs and
joy) made it, while the Bible tells us that Aaron made the Golden calf.

30 - why is it that the Quranic Laws state that the thief's hands should be
chopped, and the laws of Moses say something else?

31 - Why does the Quran say lash the fornicators 100 times, and the Bible
says stone them.

32 - Why does the Quran orders us to fast in Ramadhan and the Bible doesn't.

33 - Why does the Quran tells us that the inheritance share of the man is
as twice as much as the woman, and the Bible has no such law?

34 - Why does the Quran tells us not to transgress in wars, and the Bible
teaches us to kill every living thing including plants (Joshua 6).

35 - The Bible teaches us to kill unbelievers, and leave to ourselves YOUNG
virgins who never knew a man (Numbers 31). Why isn't such thing present
in the Quran?

36 - The Quran tells us to free slaves to enter heaven in Surat Al-Balad. Why
doesn't the Bible say such thing?

37 - Why is Satan called a FALLEN ANGEL in the Bible, and not in the Quran?

38 - Why does the Quran tells us there are Jinn (Some are good and others
are bad), but the Bible doesn't mention Jinn?

39 - Why is it that the Quran tells us to perform Hajj to Makkah, and the
Bible doesn't tell us such thing?

40 - Why does the Quran tells us that Abraham and Ishmael built the Kaaba,
while the Bible says no such thing?

41 - Why is it that the Bible condemns David as a murderer, and the Quran
tells us that he was a pious sinless prophet?

42 - Why doesn't the Bible tell us the story of Solomon and Balqees?

43 - Why doesn't the Bible tell us that Solomon had Jinns who worked for
him, and the Quran says so?

44 - Why is it that the Quran tells us that Solomon had soldiers from the Jinn
and the Bible doesn't say so?

45 - Why is it that the Quran tells us that Solomon understood the speech of
the birds and the Bible doesn't say so?

46 - Why is it that the Quran tells us that Solomon understood the speech of
the ants and the Bible doesn't say so?

47 - Why is it that the Quran tells us that ONLY female bees get the honey,
and the Bible doesn't say so?

48 - Why is it that the Quran tells us that the Quran mentions different levels
in Paradise, and the Bible doesn't say so?

49 - Why is it that the Quran tells us that there is a tree in hell called
Zaqquum, and the Bible doesn't say so?

50 - The Quran mentions Thal-Kifl as one of the prophets. Can you find his name
in the Bible?

51 - Why is it that the Quran was finalized and approved by Prophet Mohammad
(s), and the Bible was never approved by any prophet?

52 - Why didn't Mohammad make the Quran in chronological order just like the
Bible?

53 - Why is it that the Quran mentions Ishmael as an honorable prophet, and
the Bible refers to him as the son of the slave woman (Galatians 4)?

54 - Why doesn't the Quran mention the story of the people of Tyre, while
the Bible does?

55 - Why doesn't the Quran mentions the story of David and how he killed one
of his enemies to marry his wife as the Bible did in I Samuel 25?

56 - Why is it that the Bible does not mention the story of David and Solomon
with the sheep, and the Quran does?

57 - Why does the Bible mention Abraham's father by name, and the Quran
mentions him by his nick?

58 - Why doesn't the Bible mention the story when Abraham was put into a fire
by his people and the Quran does?

59 - Why doesn't the Quran mention Abraham's interesting story in Egypt, and
the Bible does?

60 - Why is it that the Bible tells us that John's mother was the daughter of
Aaron, and the Quran doesn't say so?

61 - Why doesn't the Bible mention the story of how Mary was raised, and the
Quran does?

62 - Why doesn't the Quran and the Bible have the same story about the birth
of Jesus? The Quran says that he was born under the remnants of a palm
tree, but the Bible says he was born in a stable.

63 - According to the Bible, who are the Sabians?

64 - Where does the Bible mention the Magians?

65 - The Bible tells us that Jacob had a fight with an Angel, and the Quran
tells us in Surat Al-Baqara that whoever takes the Angels as enemies,
he becomes an enemy of God. Why do we see this contradiction?

66 - Why is it that the Quran tells us in Surat Taaha that the staff of
Moses became a REAL snake, and the Bible tells us that it only appeared
to be a snake?

67 - Why is it that Moses was the one who threw his staff during the contest
with the magicians, and the Bible tells us that Aaron is the one who threw
it?

68 - The story of Moses and the bronze snake in Numbers 21 is pretty
interesting. Why is it mentioned in the Bible and not in the Quran?

70 - The Quran tells us that Earth is round, but the Bible tells us that the
Earth is flat. Why?

71 - The Quran tells us about Haroot and Maroot in Surat Al-Baqara. Who are
those characters according to the Bible?

72 - Why is the story of Gog and Magog different in the Quran and the Bible?

73 - The Bible tells us that Prophet Elijah was raised to God. Why doesn't the
Quran say the same thing?

74 - The Bible tells us that Solomon had many wives. Why doesn't the Quran say
the same thing?

75 - The Bible tells us that God RESTED after he created the world. The Quran
says that nothing makes God tired. Why?

76 - The Quran details embryology, why doesn't the Bible?

77 - The Quran mentions the names of the Gods during Noah's time in Surat
Nuuh, why aren't those names present in the Bible?

78 - The Bible tells us that the whole Earth was flooded, why doesn't the Quran
say the same thing?

79 - The Quran tells us that hell has 7 doors in Surat Al-Hijr (Ch. 15), why
doesn't the Bible mention such thing?

80 - Why does the Quran say that Lot's wife was a bad woman, but God punishes
Lot's wife in the Bible just for accidentally turning back to see what was
happening in Sodom?

81 - Why does the Bible accuse Noah for getting drunk in Genesis 9, and the
Quran frees him from such accusation?

82 - Anyone who curses his mother shall be put to death, according to Leviticus
20, why don't we find such a law in the Quran?

83 - Why is it that apostates are killed according to the Bible, and not killed
according to the Quran? See:
http://www.clgraph.com/Private/abdalla/Apostasy.html

84 - Why is it that tattoos are forbidden in the Bible (Leviticus 19), and no
tattoos are mentioned in the Quran?

85 - The Quran instructs us to treat those who are born from an illegal sexual
intercourse as Brothers. But the Bible tells us in Leviticus 23 that they
should NOT even enter the assembly of the Lord. Why didn't Mohammad (s)
copy this beautiful law?

86 - The Bible tells us in Deuteronomy 25, that if two men were beating up
each other, and the wife of one of them interfered, she should have her
hand chopped off. Why didn't Mohammad (s) copy this beautiful law?

87 - Why does the Bible encourage Bribery in Proverbs 17, and the Quran
never encourages such thing?

88 - Why does the Bible say that wisdom is a source of sorrow in
Ecclesiastes 1:18, and the Quran calls wisdom a gift in 2:269?

89 - Why does God in the Quran tells us to avoid bloodshed, and the Bible God
curses the sword which doesn't do bloodshed (Jeremiah 48)?

90 - Why is Zachariah's supplication to God to grant him a son is mentioned in
the Quran, and not mentioned in the Bible?

91 - The Bible God in Leviticus 21 tells us that hunchbacks, dwarfs,
cripples, blind people, people who are deformed or disfigured, or have
damaged testicles--all those people cannot become priests. The Quran
tells us that there is no difference between a man and another except
in piety. Why didn't Mohammad (s) copy this BEAUTIFUL law from the Bible?

92 - Why does the Bible God in Leviticus 21 forbid priests from marrying
divorced women, and the Quran doesn't say such thing?

93 - Why is it that the Bible tells the people to call a person who doesn't
listen to his father or mother "stubborn and a drunkard"? The Quran
does not tell us that we should call a person who is disobedient to
his parents as a drunkard. Furthermore, the Biblical law is that this
person should be stoned to death, but the Quran approves no such thing.
Why?

94 - The Quran tells us that we are not above the Law. We must adhere to the
Laws of God. But the Bible God tells the Christians in Galatians 2 that
they are under no LAW!! In other words, God made all these laws, so that
Christians can see them and smile. Why didn't Mohammad tell his people that
the Quranic laws are only for non-Muslims?

95 - The Bible God tells us that He will let us see the sex organs of the Jews,
but the Quran mentions no such thing. Mohammad (s) had serious problems
with the Jews, so why didn't he make fun of them with something similar
with what we read in Nahum 3?

96 - In Romans 6, the Bible tells us that Jesus will never die again. But
The Quran tells us that he will die and he will be raised at Judgement
day. Why didn't Mohammad copy from Romans 6?

97 - The Bible teaches Christians to drink wine, the Quran forbids Muslims
drinking. Why?

98 - 1 Corinthians 6 tells us that our bodies are members of Christ. The Quran
tells us that our bodies belong to Allah, Christ has nothing to do with
our bodies. Why didn't Mohammad (s) copy that from the Bible?

99 - In Ezikiel 20, the Bible God tells us that he wanted to decimate all the
Israelites, but He didn't do so because it would hurt his reputation. In
the Quran God tells us that He does indeed take away all the people if they
were wrongful (Like the people of Noah, Sodom, Aad, and Thamood) if He
wills.

100 - The Bible God has a beautiful punishment in Malachi 2. He threatens an
Israelite that He would fill his face with feces!! God, in the Quran,
God never says such things.

101 - The Bible says that the Original Sin was committed by Adam and Eve when
they ate from the forbidden tree. The Quran tells us that the Original
Sin was Satan's arrogance when he didn't obey God, when God ordered him
to do So.

Now, we have 101 proofs that the Quran is not copied from the Bible.


Walhamdulilahi Rabbil Alameen

Salam,
Abdalla.
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Jochen Katz

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In article <7v4dav$dpq$1...@samba.rahul.net>,
Abdalla Alothman <ada...@blueskyweb.com> writes:

> Time and time again, we Muslims have to endure accusations that our
> Qur'an is copied from the Bible.

Nobody claims this. You should read the articles on this topic more
carefully before you attempt to refute the hypotheses. Please do so
at

http://answering-islam.org/Quran/Sources/

> Below are 101 proofs that makes it
> impossible for the Qur'an to be copied from the Bible.

We'll see....

> 1 - Who was created first, Adam or Satan? The Quran says Satan, the
> Bible doesn't say anything.

The Bible says quite a bit on that... but I will let you find the
answer yourself. Hint: Book of Job, Ezekiel, Isaiah, Revelation...

> 2 - Who was created first, Adam or the Angles? The Quran says the Angels,
> the Bible doesn't say anything.

see last question.

> 3 - Why doesn't the Bible mention that Noah had
> two wives, one was disobedient, and she died.
> And another which was saved.

Now, this is interesting. Where in the Qur'an are those
two wives mentioned? I know of 66:10 stating

Allah citeth an example for those who disbelieve:
the wife of Noah and the wife of Lot,
who were under two of Our righteous slaves
yet betrayed them so that they (the husbands)
availed them naught against Allah and it was said (unto them):
Enter the Fire along with those who enter.

Where does it say there was ANOTHER wife of Noah that was
saved? Maybe that is one and the same wife who first is saved
from the flood and then later disbelieved and was punished
for it (according to the Qur'an, not the Bible)?

> 4 - Why does the Bible say that Noah's ark is in Ararat
> but it was discovered in Al-Judyy, as the Quran says so?

Well, I would suggest that you read a rather thorough article
on this issue at

http://answering-islam.org/Shamoun/flood.htm

> 5 - Why does the Bible say that God afflicted women for Eve's
> sin, and the Quran doesn't tell us such thing.

Now, do think carefully about that... Genesis states that birth pains
are a result. But if that were not so, how come Muslim women have
birth pains too? Maybe the Qur'an is at fault for not giving a
reason, not the Bible for giving one?

In any case, all the above and the below reasons suffer from the
same fallacy. Nobody said that all of the Qur'an in ever detail
was copying all of the Bible. They are different books after all.

But SOME of the stories in the Qur'an are very similar to some
stories found elsewhere, and there can be hardly any doubt that
there is some dependency. Not verbatim copying, but clear influence.
And the main issue is not the dependency on the Bible, but on
apocryphal and legendary sources.

> 6 - Where does the Bible tell us about the story of Aad and Thamood.

Nowhere, so what? Nobody claimed that every detail in the Qur'an came
from the Bible. Read the claims before you make rebuttals that don't
address them.

> 7 - Where does the Bible mention ...


> 13 - Where do you find in the Quran any reference to Hosea, Malachi,
> Micha, Jude, Nahum, Nehemiah, Obadaiah, Esther, Joel, Ruth, etc.

Nor did anyone claim that Quran has copied everything in the Bible.
Your arguments hit air. Shadow boxing... However, depending on what
you substitute for "etc." I certainly can find some "etc." in the
Qur'an which is in the Bible. :-)

> 15 - Why doesn't the Bible mention the story of the People of the Cave.

Because it is a fable? Because its origin is in a time after the Bible
was written? Please do find details at

http://answering-islam.org/Quran/Sources/

> 17 - Why does the Bible say that Jesus was crucified, and the Quran says
> that he was saved.

Because the Qur'an made some strange error / theory there. But that
topic is a complicated one and you are invited to investigate it
at

http://answering-islam.org/Shamoun/crucifixion.htm

> 18 - Why does the Bible say that Abraham sacrificed his only begotten son,
> Jacob, and forgets that he had another son called Ishamael, who is older
> than Jacob.

Abraham's son who was nearly sacrificed was Isaac, not Jacob, who was
Abraham's grand-son. Everything else on this topic can be found at

http://answering-islam.org/Shamoun/sacrifice.htm

> 20 - Why is it that the Bible tells us that the Holy Spirit had sex with
> Mary,

??? WHERE does the Bible say that? This is an outrageous accusation.

> and the Quran tells us that the Angel who visited Mary told
> her that she will bear a son, and he is ONLY informing her of what
> God has decreed?

Double error. Gabriel visited Mary, but the Holy Spirit is not Gabriel
as you seem to assume. Gabriel in the Bible also only informs Mary.

> 21 - Why is it that the Bible tells us that Moses was adopted by Pharaoh's
> daughter, and the Quran tells us it was Pharaoh's wife.

Ask that to Muhammad. I don't know why he made that error.

But again, if two students sit in an exam, and one is copying from
the other, as can be seen from various identical passages on his
paper, is the copying disproved if there is something that is not
identical? No teacher will conclude that. One paragraph that is
identical shows copying, even if the rest is different.

> 27 - Why is it that the Quran tells us that Jesus spoke in the cradle, but
> the Bible knows nothing about the childhood of Jesus?

Because the Qur'an copied that from later apocryphal legends.
It is amazing that you can't see that this is legendary, not
historical stuff. More details at the URL given above.


>
> 28 - Why is it that the Quran tells us that Jesus made miracles by giving
> life to statues made from clay?

Same as above.

> 29 - The Quran tells us that Aaron is innocent; he did not make the golden
> calf, but a man called Al-Samirri (A person who organizes songs and
> joy) made it, while the Bible tells us that Aaron made the Golden calf.

Because it was so. :-)

> 30 - why is it that the Quranic Laws state that the thief's hands should be
> chopped, and the laws of Moses say something else?

About that you can find details in

http://debate.domini.org/newton/allah.html

> 31 - Why does the Quran say lash the fornicators 100 times, and the Bible
> says stone them.

And then again, why do Muslims stone them, based on hadith and the
practice of Muhammad and the first Califs?

> 32 - Why does the Quran orders us to fast in Ramadhan and the Bible doesn't.

Investigate how Muhammad came to order Ramadhan later in his career,
when the Jews rejected him?

> 36 - The Quran tells us to free slaves to enter heaven in Surat Al-Balad. Why
> doesn't the Bible say such thing?

Because in the Word of God, one can't buy heaven.

> 37 - Why is Satan called a FALLEN ANGEL in the Bible, and not in the Quran?

Other Muslims are of a different opinion. See for example

http://www.answering-islam.org.uk/Quran/Contra/qi010a.html

> 39 - Why is it that the Quran tells us to perform Hajj to Makkah, and the
> Bible doesn't tell us such thing?

Because the Bible doesn't endorse pagan rituals. Those were pre-islamic
pagan traditions of Arabia that Muhammad incorporated into Islam.

> 40 - Why does the Quran tells us that Abraham and Ishmael built the Kaaba,
> while the Bible says no such thing?

It was Muhammad's attempt to legitimize his religion, and center it around
Mecca. He invented it. No basis in history for those claims.

> 41 - Why is it that the Bible condemns David as a murderer, and the Quran
> tells us that he was a pious sinless prophet?

Where does the Qur'an say so? I challenge you to find me one verse
that does.

> 46 - Why is it that the Quran tells us that Solomon understood the speech of
> the ants and the Bible doesn't say so?

Because the Bible doesn't incorporate fables as if they were history.

> 52 - Why didn't Mohammad make the Quran in chronological order just like the
> Bible?

First, the Bible is not in chronological order, but it is at least
coherent and not as jumbled as the Qur'an. But that is rather a problem
of the Qur'an, not of the Bible, that there is no order in it.

> 53 - Why is it that the Quran mentions Ishmael as an honorable prophet, and
> the Bible refers to him as the son of the slave woman (Galatians 4)?

Well, he was. But, why do you think being a son of a slave woman is not
honorable? Muhammad himself had sex with Mary the Copt who was his slave
girl, and she bore him a son. Was that dishonorable?

> 57 - Why does the Bible mention Abraham's father by name, and the Quran
> mentions him by his nick?

How do you know that the Qur'anic name is a nickname?

> 58 - Why doesn't the Bible mention the story when Abraham was put into a fire
> by his people and the Quran does?

Because the Qur'an is based on a rabbinic misunderstanding as can easily
be demonstrated. See the above URL.

> 61 - Why doesn't the Bible mention the story of how Mary was raised, and the
> Quran does?

What story are you refering to? I am not aware of a raising of Mary.
But maybe my memory is faulty.

> 63 - According to the Bible, who are the Sabians?

According to the Qur'an, who are they? I doubt you can answer that.

> 64 - Where does the Bible mention the Magians?

In the gospel of Matthew.

> 70 - The Quran tells us that Earth is round, but the Bible tells us that the
> Earth is flat. Why?

Neither of the above statements are true. The Qur'an certainly does
talk about flat earth, and the Bible also talks about a round earth.
But would you care to find out where?

> 74 - The Bible tells us that Solomon had many wives. Why doesn't the Quran say
> the same thing?

Maybe it forgot? But then, why should it? However, the hadith state this
fact many times.

> 75 - The Bible tells us that God RESTED after he created the world. The Quran
> says that nothing makes God tired. Why?

Nowhere does the Bible say that God got tired. Ceasing to work, does not
imply tiredness.

> 76 - The Quran details embryology, why doesn't the Bible?

Oh this again. Discussed in great detail here:

http://www.answering-islam.org.uk/Quran/Science/embryo.html and
http://www.answering-islam.org.uk/Responses/It-is-truth/ and
http://www.answering-islam.org.uk/Responses/Saifullah/embryo.htm and
http://www.answering-islam.org.uk/Responses/Saifullah/embryo2.htm

> 78 - The Bible tells us that the whole Earth was flooded, why doesn't the Quran
> say the same thing?

The answer is found again in

http://answering-islam.org/Shamoun/flood.htm

> 84 - Why is it that tattoos are forbidden in the Bible (Leviticus 19), and no
> tattoos are mentioned in the Quran?

and why is Muhammad forbidding tattoos in the hadith?

> 87 - Why does the Bible encourage Bribery in Proverbs 17, and the Quran
> never encourages such thing?

Excuse me? Nowhere is bribery encouraged in the Bible. Let me quote
the two verses that speak of bribes:

8 A bribe is a charm to the one who gives it; wherever he turns, he succeeds.

23 A wicked man accepts a bribe in secret to pervert the course of justice.

Verse 8 is not an encouragement, it is a description. Verse 23 makes it
clear that it is evil, even if it is successful. Please read more careful
the next time before you attack the Word of God.

However, in the Qur'an there is one interesting passage in this regard....

Read more on it here:

http://www.answering-islam.org.uk/Quran/Tafsir/009.060.html

If that isn't bribery...

> 90 - Why is Zachariah's supplication to God to grant him a son is mentioned in
> the Quran, and not mentioned in the Bible?

Wrong again. Luke 1:13 reports

But the angel said to him: "Do not be afraid, Zechariah;
your prayer has been heard. Your wife Elizabeth will bear you a son,
and you are to give him the name John.

> 92 - Why does the Bible God in Leviticus 21 forbid priests from marrying
> divorced women, and the Quran doesn't say such thing?

Instead you could ask: Why does the Qur'an not mention anything about
priests and sacrifices for atonement at all? How come that is completely
missed in the Qur'an even though it is in the Torah and the Qur'an
supposedly came to confirm the Torah?

> 97 - The Bible teaches Christians to drink wine, the Quran forbids Muslims
> drinking. Why?

Where does the Bible teach Christians to drink wine? How about
Ephesians 5:18

Do not get drunk on wine, which leads to debauchery.
Instead, be filled with the Spirit.

> Now, we have 101 proofs that the Quran is not copied from the Bible.

Where was there even one?


Jochen Katz

Mo

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jk...@math.gatech.edu (Jochen Katz) wrote:
>Where does it say there was ANOTHER wife of Noah that was
saved?<
The Prophet confused Prophet Lot's wife who was turned into
a pillar of salt with Noah's . In the same way Muslims get
everything wrong when they try to write about Hindu myths .
Yet another proof that most of the Quran are the Prophet's
words with some beautiful language taken from preIslamic
Arab pagan sources . Why else would the Muslims order the
destruction of all the preIslamic books ?..


Abu Aftab

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Jochen Katz wrote in message <7v63hr$nj9$1...@samba.rahul.net>...

>In article <7v4dav$dpq$1...@samba.rahul.net>,
>Abdalla Alothman <ada...@blueskyweb.com> writes:
>
>> Time and time again, we Muslims have to endure accusations that our
>> Qur'an is copied from the Bible.
>
>Nobody claims this. You should read the articles on this topic more
>carefully before you attempt to refute the hypotheses. Please do so
>at
>
> http://answering-islam.org/Quran/Sources/


If you wish to use the "theory" that Islam is simply copied from earlier
sources then you will have to also believe that the Bible is also simply
copied from previous sources.

Everybody knows that the Israelites got their god Yahweh from the
Canaanites, the story of Noah is from the Epic of Gilgamesh and frankly most
of the stories of the Bible are from Babylon and Egypt rehashed in a semitic
form. Besides everybody knows how unoriginal the Bible is and how unoriginal
the authors of the Bible were. Wherever the hebrews travelled around the
Middle East they simply picked up stories along the way and incorporated
them into the corpus of oral traditions that later were written down to form
the Bible.

Now seroiously....

Read the following

http://www.muslim-answers.org/borrow.htm

and we know that Katz already has an answer to this webpage. So Abdalla is
right, again we are told that the Quran has "copied" the Bible.

Hitti, stated in his monumental work The Arabs that it could be possible to
state that in around about way there is only one single verse of the Quran
which could be said to have been copied from the Bible, and even that is the
form of a quote!

The argument that the Quran has been copied from the Bible or previous
sources only works if you are an atheist. A christian loses out since there
are literally heaps of areas in the Bible which have been copied from
sources which predate christianity and/or Judaism. If you see it that way...

(Note, the above is just my way of showing the double edged sword, I do not
believe the notion that cultures are wholesale "copied" let alone religions
and religious ideas.)

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