SURA 19 & THE MATHEMATICAL MIRACLE OF THE QURAN.
AHMED OKLA
In The Name of God, Most Gracious, Most Merciful
Sura number 19 carries the number on which the foundation of the
Mathematical Miracle of the Quran is built. As most of us know by now,
the mathematical Miracle of the Quran was discovereed by the late
Dr. Rashad Khalifa who has his own translation of the Quran including
more details of the miracle in his translation. The new discoveries of
the miracle never ended by his assassination in 1990.
This in itself is a proof that this miracle does not belong to Rashad
Khalifa but to the One Almighty God who chose him to open the door for
these discoveries that will never end.
God Himself called the miracle in Sura 74 , "....... one of the great
miracles" 74:35 (7+4+3+5= 19)
We know sura 19, (Mary or Maryam in Arabic) begins with the longest
set of initials, five letters, K, H, Y, 'A and S . Since this is Sura
19 we would expect it to follow the rest of the miracle and has its
own built in miracle.
The letter "K" in sura 19 occurs 137 times, "H" 175 times ,"Y" occurs
343 times, "'A" occurs 117 times and "S" (Saad) occurs 26 times. Thus
the total occurrence of the five lettersis 37+175+343+117+26=
798=19X42.
In othe words this long initial divides by 19 as the system goes in
this 19-based miracle.
Sura 19 has 98 verses and the word God is mentioned in it 8 times. The
relationship between the numbers 19, 98 and 8 cannot be disregarded if
we know how they
connect to each other.
We know 19 is the eightth prime number, (prime number is the number
that divide by 1 or itself only, e.g 2,3,5,7,11,13,17,19,,,) But 8 is
also the total number of verses in Sura 98.
Sura 98 is called "The proof, AL BAYYENAH) and the gematrical value of
the Arabic word (numerical value of the Arabic letters of Albayyenah)
is 98, the same as its number in the Quran.
More significant is the fact that the word, "the Proof" (Albayyenah)
is repeated in the whole Quran 19 times.
SO , Sura 19 has 98 verses and 8 word God, while Sura 98 has 8 verses
and its name carries the gematrical value of 98 and the name itself is
repeated in the Quran 19 times.
The word "the Proof" has to be 19 times, is there a hint here ?!!!
We can call it coincidental if we do not believe that there is a God
right there who has control of everything. GOD told us in the Quran
that he counted the numbers of all things, See 72:28 (7+2+2+8= 19)
But let us read some of the verses in Sura 98 to see what God is
telling us,
"Those who disbelieved among the people of the scripture (Jews,
Christians and Muslims), as well as the idol worshipers, insist on
their ways, despite the PROOF given to them. A messenger from God is
reciting to them sacred instructions. In them there are valuable
teachings. In fact, those who received the scripture (Jews, Christians
and Muslims) did not dispute until the PRROF was given to them. ALL
THAT WAS ASKED OF THEM WAS TO WORSHIP GOD, DEVOTING THE RELIGION
ABSOLUTELY TO HIM ALONE, observe the contact prayers (salat) , and
give the obligatory charity (Zakat). Such is the perfect religion. "
98:1-5
No more comments except " By which Hadith after God's and His
revelation do they believe in ?????? "
SALAM
AHMED
ZiFF
In The Name of God, Most Gracious, Most Merciful
I have doubts on this "Code 19" assumptions popularised by Dr Rashad Khalifa.
I would advise against the use of it mainly because:-
1) We should express and pay attention to the verse in Surah Ali Imran: 7
He it is Who has sent down to thee the book: In it are verses basic and
fundamental [of established meaning]; They are the foundation of the Book.
Others are allegorical. But those in whose heart is perversity follow the part
thereof that is allegorical, seeking discord, and seeking its hidden meanings,
But no one knows its hidden message except Allah
2) "Code 19" is not clearly claimed by the Holy Qur'an.
What does it say about these Muqatta'at letters are..."symbols of a
Clearly Expressed Book" [Surah Yusof:1]
3) Troublesome to clarify; requires a person to be mathematically inclined and
must be able to identify Arabic Letters.
4) It was hastily adopted without due regard to the history of the
preservation of the Qur'an especially regarding the Qira'atil Quran [the
accepted recitations that has been preserved through the unbroken chains of
Quraa' and Hufaz]
5) Other religion also has something akin to this code, by using another
number; so it is not something greatly outstanding to them if the "Code 19" is
used. [It is noted that the Baha'is (a diverted group) have also used this
Code 19 long before Dr Khalifa.]
6) Too much concern over the Code 19 may lead us to ignore the main Message
that is contained in the Holy Qur'an, whereas it is the Messagethemselveswhich
should be understood and conveyed instead.
Wallahu' Alam...
AHMED OKLA
mrabd3 writes:
Subject: Re: SURA 19 & THE MATHEMATICAL MIRACLE OF THE QURAN:
[BEWARE]
From: mra...@pfs01.cc.monash.edu.au (ZiFF)
Date: 13 Jun 1996 03:57:16 GMT
>> I have doubts on this "Code 19" assumptions popularised by Dr Rashad
Khalifa.<<
It is OK to have doubts. Remember that doubts should be followed by a
decision
to accept or reject. Pharaoh for a while have doubts when Moses presented
him with the message and then with many miracles that Pharaoh could not
appreciate. By the time Pharaoh realized that he better believe, it was
too
late for him
>> I would advise against the use of it mainly because:-
1) We should express and pay attention to the verse in Surah Ali Imran: 7
He it is Who has sent down to thee the book: In it are verses basic and
fundamental [of established meaning]; They are the foundation of the Book.
Others are allegorical. But those in whose heart is perversity follow the
part thereof that is allegorical, seeking discord, and seeking its hidden
meanings, But no one knows its hidden message except Allah <<
You conveniently stopped there but the verse does not stop there but
continue
to say, ".....except Allah and those who possess knowledge. They say, " we
believe in this, for it all comes from our Lord." Only those who possess
intelligence will take heed."
First this verse has nothing to do with the discovery of number 19 related
Mathematical Miracle. Second. It is not a guess work any more, it is as
fact
as the verses you just wrote. Even if you want to take this verse, it
indicates that those who possess knowledge will get it too.
Like all the miracles of God ONLY those who attained certainty about this
Quran will get an access to this miracle.
[2:118]
"Those who possess no knowledge say, "If only GOD could
speak to us, or some miracle could come to us!" Others
before them have uttered similar utterances; their minds
are similar. WE DO MANIFEST THE MIRACLES FOR
THOSE WHO HAVE ATTAINED CERTAINTY.. "
>> 2) "Code 19" is not clearly claimed by the Holy Qur'an.
What does it say about these Muqatta'at letters are..."symbols of a
Clearly Expressed Book" [Surah Yusof:1]<<
On the contrary, number 19 and its function is clearly explained in the
Sura
74, entitles, "The Hidden" (Al-Mudath-ther). The code of 19 has been
hidden
for 1406 lunar years , that 74 X 19. Number 19 is mentioned in sura 74.
No
co-incidence. The discovery that number 19 is the code was established in
the
solar year 1974.
>> 3) Troublesome to clarify; requires a person to be mathematically
inclined
and must be able to identify Arabic Letters.<<
NOT TRUE. Many of the Mathematical Miracle can be verified by any person
with
little knowledge of Math. Many of them do not need knowledge of the Arabic
letters, e.g. the number of suras in the Quran, the number of Basmallah,
the
number of verses, the number of the word God (Allah)....etc.
>> 4) It was hastily adopted without due regard to the history of the
preservation of the Qur'an especially regarding the Qira'atil Quran [the
accepted recitations that has been preserved through the unbroken chains
of
Quraa' and Hufaz]<<
It did not need this history. It proved what the history have of
questionable addition or distortion or the lack of it.
>> 5) Other religion also has something akin to this code, by using
another
number; so it is not something greatly outstanding to them if the "Code
19"
is used. [It is noted that the Baha'is (a diverted group) have also used
this
Code 19 long before Dr Khalifa.]<<
NOT TRUE. There have been few attempts to come close to it but they never
did. There have been a long discussion before about people claiming
similar
phenomenon. This is not the case with the Quran. Bahaii did not know any
thing about the mathematical miracle of the Quran although they glorify
number 19. You forgot that the Quran used number 19 LONG before the
Bahaiis
>> 6) Too much concern over the Code 19 may lead us to ignore the main
Message
that is contained in the Holy Qur'an, whereas it is the Message themselves
which
should be understood and conveyed instead.<<
You are correct about that. Any situation can be abused. The function and
the
purpose of number 19 is explained by God in 74:31. That is all of it. It
should not make a true believer ignore the message of the Quran because
that
is the whole purpose of the Quran. Abraham concern about observing a
miracle
for God should not reflect disbelief in him or inability to understand the
message of God. Abraham who was a prophet asked God to show him hoe He
revives the Dead . What was God's question to Abraham ? and what was
Abraham question to God ?!!
SALAM
AHMED
shawki Hamdan
In The Name of God, Most Gracious, Most Merciful
ZiFF wrote:
> I have doubts on this "Code 19" assumptions popularised by Dr Rashad
> Khalifa.
Fine. No one is twisting your arm. You can have all the doubts you want.
It is true that certainty always starts with doubt, but unless someone
works on these doubts and confronts them then he will always be in doubt
and he will always let herd metality determine his destiny.
It is funny how the title is sura 19, and there is no mention of sura 19
in the body of your message. Yet the big "BEWARE" is glaring.
> I would advise against the use of it mainly because:-
>
> 1) We should express and pay attention to the verse in Surah Ali Imran:
> 7
>
> He it is Who has sent down to thee the book: In it are verses basic and
> fundamental [of established meaning]; They are the foundation of the
> Book. Others are allegorical. But those in whose heart is perversity
> follow the part thereof that is allegorical, seeking discord, and
> seeking its hidden meanings, But no one knows its hidden message except
> Allah
Ziff convenienly deletes a significant portion of the above verse because
it does not help his argument. In fact it turns his own argument into
self-defeating argument. The portion he deleted was "And those founded in
knowledge say "We believe in it. All of it is from our Lord:. AND NONE
WILL GRASP IT EXCEPT THOSE WITH INTELLIGENCE".
Appartently the above statement was not significant to Ziff.
> 2) "Code 19" is not clearly claimed by the Holy Qur'an.
> What does it say about these Muqatta'at letters are..."symbols of a
> Clearly Expressed Book" [Surah Yusof:1]
After most Muqatta'at initials God tells you "These are the signs of the
profound book". What is your understanding of that ziff ? How are these
initials signs of the profound book ? Have you ever bothered to check
that ?
> 3) Troublesome to clarify; requires a person to be mathematically
> inclined and must be able to identify Arabic Letters.
I refer you back to the portion you deleted from 3:7; that is "None will
grasp it except those with intelligence". Having to know how to add and
mutiply a few numbers and recognize Arabic alphbets is is not as much
hard work as having to dress in the morning to go out and earn an honest
living. Only those with intelligence take heed. The rest who choose to be
part of a herd will be left behind.
> 4) It was hastily adopted without due regard to the history of the
> preservation of the Qur'an especially regarding the Qira'atil Quran
> [the accepted recitations that has been preserved through the unbroken
> chains of Quraa' and Hufaz]
The history of preservation is one aspect that pointed out that the
Qur'an has been tampered with. Despite the historical overwhelming
evidence no one would dare claim that the last two verses of sura 9 were
actually injected by humans. Only with the mathematical code built into
the Qur'an and revealed at the right time in history did we find such
information. Wake up and study some history.
> 5) Other religion also has something akin to this code, by using
> another number; so it is not something greatly outstanding to them
> if the "Code 19" is used. [It is noted that the Baha'is (a diverted
> group) have also used this Code 19 long before Dr Khalifa.]
If you have bothered to compare you would not be making such arbitrary
false claims. Even in the 11th century Rab. Judas found significance to
the number 19 in intact fragments of the Hebrew Old Testaments. The
miracle of the Qur'an is not something new, it has existed in the Qur'an
since it was revealed. But now that the miracle itself has been revealed
there are still people like you who are too lazy to use a hand calculator
and yet make such big claims about things they know nothing about.
> 6) Too much concern over the Code 19 may lead us to ignore the main
> Message that is contained in the Holy Qur'an, whereas it is the
> Message themselves which should be understood and conveyed instead.
Tell me something Ziff, when people of other religions say that the
Qur'an is a Satanic revelation how do you go about proving to them that
it is not ? When someone tells you that all Qur'ans since the first
century after hijra have been altered how do you go about verifying
whether it is true or false claim ? The consensus of the sahaba ? How do
you know that is not another lie ? What you have now is a means to prove
the authenticity of the Qur'an in the face of any attack. You cannot
continue with that fairy tale that the prophet was illiterate and
therefore the Qur'an is miracle. Such is the attitude of those that
belong in a sheep herd and refuse to use their God-given brains for which
they will be responsible on the Day of Judgment.
Ignorance is no excuse. One must seek knowledge and force his way out of
ignorance. The Qur'an was not given to us so we can wrap it in shiny
covers, kiss it, and put it up as a decorative item on shelves. It was
given to us by God to read and re-read and reflect on its meaning. Having
the wrong understanding of verse 3:7 seems to be crippling the minds of
those with defeatist and fatalist attitude.
Wassalaam,
Shawki