2 rakat sunnah before 3 rakat fard prayer in Muhgrib?
Nasreen Ahmad
Assalumalkum,
Is there any evidence to support that praying 2 rakats before
before the 3 rakats fard prayer in Muhgrib is a sunnah? The reason why I
ask is that in the Mosque I attend after the azan a few people stand up
to pray 2 rakats. Is this according to any school of figh? Please
provide evidence to support yourself from Quran/Hadith and please E-mail
it to me.
m a m
IN THE NAME OF ALLAH. THE EVER-MERCIFUL, THE MERCY-GIVING.
All praise is due to Allah, the Lord of the Worlds.
Heavenly Salutations and Peace be upon the Messenger of Allah
and upon his family, his noble companions
and all those who follow them in righteousness until the Day of Judgment.
sister Nasreen Ahmad;
Assalamu alaykum wa rahmat-ULLAHi wa barakatuhu.
In a hadeeth, the messenger -saaws- said (in the meaning) :(( between
every two Athans(prayer calls) there is a salah)) . According to the
scholars the two athans here are the athan and iqamah(the call
directly befor obligotary prayers), because iqamah is called athan
too. so the poeple in your mosque may be praying this sunnah which is
two raka'ahs between any athan and iqamah.
there is also the sunnah of entering the mosque which is two raka'ahs
too. otherwise the sunnah of magrib prayer is after the prayer.
as for your question 'is it according to any school?', the above
hadeeth is an explicit teaching from the messenger -saaws- so the fiqh
schools are not supposed to disagree in such a matter.
wassalam
majed
The Flying Blade
Assalamualaikum(*)
nah...@gpu.srv.ualberta.ca (Nasreen Ahmad) wrote:
-> Is there any evidence to support that praying 2 rakats before
->before the 3 rakats fard prayer in Muhgrib is a sunnah?
It's certainly not prohibited; however, it is a common practice that
the sunset prayer is offered almost immediately after the
pronouncement of Adhan. Thus, most of the times, there's not enough
time to perform this optional prayer of two rakaah.
->The reason why I ask is that in the Mosque I attend after the azan a
->few people stand up to pray 2 rakats. Is this according to any
->school of figh?
There are some evidence that this optional prayer was practiced by
the Prophet(PBUH) and the Companions(RA), such as:
Abdullah ibn Muzani reported: the Prophet(PBUH) said: Pray two rakaah
before the sunset prayer. He repeated again : Pray two rakaah before
the sunset prayer; IT APPLIES TO THOSE WHO WISH TO DO SO. That was
because he feared that people might treat is as a sunnah.(::)
>From al-Mukhtar ibn Fulful, he related that Anas ibn Malik said: I
offered two rakaah of prayer before the sunset prayer during the time
of th Prophet(PBUH). I asked Anas: Did the Prophet(PBUH) see you? He
replied: Yes, but he neither commanded us nor forbade us (to do so).
And, the following hadith also acknowledges the validity of the
optional prayer between the adhan and iqamah, regardless of time.
Abdullah ibn Mughaffal reported the Prophet(PBUH) as saying: Between
the two adhans there's a prayer; between the two adhans there is
prayer for one who desires to do it.
(::)note: Imam Ahmad ibn Hanbal(Founder of Hanbali School) and Ishaq
(Ibn Rhawaih al-Marwazy) hold the view that this optional prayer is
commendable. HOwever, most of scholars and jurists hold the
opposite point of view.
As of all nawafil(tathtawwu'/non-obligatory) prayers are divided into
two categories, ones performed due to some causations/reasons, such as
Istisqa prayer and Chusuf prayer. The other kind of nawafil are ones
performed without any particular reasons/causations, and in this
category of nawafil, we observe the following:
1. Sunnah Rawatib Muakkadah which were performed by the Prophet(PBUH)
regardless of whether he was traveling or not. The witr prayer and
the optional 2 rakaah before Fajr prayer are the examples.
2. Sunnah Rawatib Muakkadah which were performed by the Prophet(PBUH)
ONLY when he was not traveling. In this category, we will find all
the optional prayer surrounding the Fard, i.e. 2/4 rakaah before
Dhuhr, 2 rakaah after Duhr, 2 rakaah after Friday Prayer, 2 rakaah
after sunset prayer, 2 rakaah after night prayer, 2 rakaah before
dawn prayer. Also the tahajjud prayer is included here.
3. Sunnah Rawatib Ghairu Muakkadah which were SELDOM performed by the
prophet(PBUH) or the nawafil which were neither commanded nor
prohibited by the Porphet(PBUH). In this category, we will find some
rarely performed nawafil, such as: two rakaah after Dhuhr, 4 rakaah
before Asr, >> 2 rakaah before Maghrb <<, 2 rakaah before Eesa, and
2 rakaah of Dhuha.
In conclusion, the prayer Br. N Ahmad mentioned, is included in the
third category of nawafil(Sunnah Rawatib Ghairu Muakkadah).
Wassalam(*)
The Flying Blade
msy...@Primenet.com
(*) note: The salam is offered to all muslims who profess the
complete shahadah, embedded in adhan since 2H. Khalifites
are excluded.
John Michael Janney
Nasreen Ahmad wrote:
> Is there any evidence to support that praying 2 rakats before
> before the 3 rakats fard prayer in Muhgrib is a sunnah? The reason why I
> ask is that in the Mosque I attend after the azan a few people stand up
> to pray 2 rakats. Is this according to any school of figh? Please
> provide evidence to support yourself from Quran/Hadith and please E-mail
> it to me.
As I have been taught, there is no sunnah salat between Asr and
Magrib. It is a commandment not to make salat between these times so
that we may carry about our business. I will research to verify this,
because I may be at fault.
Jazaku Allahu Khair,
Yahya
G. Fouad Haddad
as-salamu `alaykum,
In article <4q3l62$2...@usenet.srv.cis.pitt.edu>, ya...@netdoor.com writes...
>Nasreen Ahmad wrote:
>
>> Is there any evidence to support that praying 2 rakats before
>> before the 3 rakats fard prayer in Muhgrib is a sunnah? The reason why I
>> ask is that in the Mosque I attend after the azan a few people stand up
>> to pray 2 rakats. Is this according to any school of figh? Please
>> provide evidence to support yourself from Quran/Hadith and please E-mail
>> it to me.
The evidence for the permissibility of praying two rak`at of voluntary
prayer after the adhan of Maghrib and before Salat al-maghrib is in the
hadiths of Anas:
"We used to pray in the time of Allah's Messenger two rak`at
after sunset." Anas was asked: "Did Allah's Messenger pray them?"
He replied: "He would see us pray them, and neither did he
order us to do it nor did he prohibit us." al-Jazari cites
in his "Fiqh `ala al-madhahib al-arba`a.
"When we were in Madina, the moment the mu'adhdhin made the
call to the Sunset prayer the people hastened to the pillars
of the mosque and prayed two rak`as, with the result that
any stranger coming into the mosque would think that the
obligatory prayer had been observed owing to the number who
were praying them." Muslim related it and it is mentioned in
the "Mishkat" (English 1:245).
>
>As I have been taught, there is no sunnah salat between Asr and
>Magrib. It is a commandment not to make salat between these times so
>that we may carry about our business. I will research to verify this,
>because I may be at fault.
>
>Jazaku Allahu Khair,
>Yahya
>
The original poster was not asking about nafl salat between `Asr and
Maghrib, but about nafl salat after the adhan of Maghrib and before
the fard.
As for nafl between `Asr and Maghrib, it is makruh, not haram, and
it is in some cases recommended regardless of time: e.g. after wudu',
upon entering the mosque, upon returning from a trip, etc.
Blessings and Peace on the Prophet, his Family, and his Companions
Fouad Haddad
AbdulraHman Lomax
as-salamu 'alaykum
On 13 Jun 1996 14:03:01 GMT, Nasreen Ahmad wrote:
>Assalumalkum,
bad sign.
> Is there any evidence to support that praying 2 rakats before
>before the 3 rakats fard prayer in Muhgrib is a sunnah? The reason why I
>ask is that in the Mosque I attend after the azan a few people stand up
>to pray 2 rakats. Is this according to any school of figh? Please
>provide evidence to support yourself from Quran/Hadith and please E-mail
>it to me.
It looks like this writer wants primary evidence, but also asks about
the positions of schools of fiqh, which is not primary evidence. If I
am to answer about schools of figh, which was the question, then there
will be no evidence, on that point, in Qur'an/Hadith. To answer from
primary evidence, to make a fatwa, I would need to be a faqih, which I
am not. But I will answer, anyway, because this is an open forum, and
we are nearly all students, of one kind or another, here. (Beware of
the "teachers" in this forum, they are generally ignorant and
arrogant; but there are a few advanced students....)
In the Reliance of the Traveler, which is a Shafi'i text, I find
(f10.2, Keller translation) "It is recommended (yundabu) to pray two
rak'as before the sunset prayer." No primary evidence is given.
It is also possible that a person praying at that time is praying the
two rak'as of greeting of the masjid, or is making up an earlier
prayer.
As-Sayyid Sabiq on the subject of two rak'at before Maghrib, cites
Bukhari, from 'Abdullah ibn Mughafal, that the Prophet (SAS) said:
"Pray before Maghrib, pray before Maghrib," and that after saying it a
third time, he said, "for whoever wishes to do so," not wanting the
people to take it as a sunnah. Ibn Hibban, according to Sabiq,
"records that the Prophet prayed two rak'at before maghrib prayer."
Sabiq also says that Muslim records that Ibn 'Abbas said: "We would
pray two rak'at before maghrib, and the Prophet would see us but he
would not order us to do so, nor would he prohibit us.
And Sabiq adds: Ibn Hajar says in Fath al-Bari: All the evidence
points to the fact that it is preferred to say these two rak'at
quickly like the two rak'at before the salatul fajr.
In Everyday Fiqh by Islahi, however, which is generally Hanafi, I find
"it is undesirable, though not forbidden, to offer the Nafl prayer ...
(iii.) after the 'Asr Prayer and before the Maghrib Prayer." (p. 105).
No evidence is given. Even though Islahi often gives the views of
other schools in his footnotes, he does not mention any other views on
this. It is an obvious oversight.
A possible resolution is to consider that the "Maghrib Prayer" means,
in this context, the time of the Maghrib Prayer, not the prayer
itself.
AbdulraHman Lomax
mar...@gate.ioa.com
P.O. Box 25133
Asheville, NC 28813