Aisha vs Abu Hurairah
kebogiro
far from extremism when to deal with women issues.In Contrary that those who
promoted chauvinistic-male domination came from Abu Hurairah and Umar Ibn
khatab.
Is it true that Aisha argued with Abu hurairah regarding what the prophet
said about "woman, dog and ass" that he didnt listen to whole words of the
prophet ?
Is is true that Abu hurairah was a slacker and dint have any permanent job
and even Umar offered him a job but he refused it ?.he used to be an
apartement cleaner (?) and feel this job was female job.
the another person who was into male domination was Muawiyah -the tyrant who
follow jahilyah style rather than Islam.
I guess the idea of not letting women to drive the car come to this guy.
Wallahualam.
Urip
MOHAMMED HANIF
not abuse his companions. If God testifies in the quran that he is pleased
with them shouldn't you be also?
Hash
Maybe you haven't heard this hadith:
It is mentioned In sahih of Ul-Bukhari (Vol4 pg94-99) and Muslim (Vol7 pg66)
the saying of the prophet of Allah (s.a.w) to his companions - "On the day of
ressurection you will be grabbed by the left and I will say 'Where are they
being taken to' it will be said ' to hell' by God I will say 'My lord these are
my companions' it will be said 'You don't know what they did after you. From
the time you left they never ceased to apostize.' I will say
'Away with him, away with him woe to those who changed things after me'"
In vol 5 in the chapter on the battle of hudaydiyya, Al-Bukhari reported from
Ahmad Ishkab, who said "Muhammad Fudayl informed us from Ala b. Musayyab, from
his father who said ' I met with Al-Bara' b. Azid and said 'you are honoured,
you accompanied the Prophet(SAW), you also paid allegiance to him under the
tree. He said ' O nephew! you do not know what we innovated after him'"
These two hadiths clearly show that after the prophet not all companions
followed his ways and some of them will even go to hell due to the changes they
made.
Did not the messenger of Allah say:
" I lead you and I'm your witness, and by Allah I now look at my pool and have
been given the keys to the treasures of the earth. And by Allah I am not
worried that you will become polytheists after me, but I am worried that you
will compete for it (wealth)"
(Bukari Vol 4 p100-101)
How true the Prophet (saw) was! If you study the history of the companions
after the prophets death you will notice how much wealth they built up
1/ Abdul rahman Ibn Awf - 100 horses,1000 camels,10,000 sheep
2/Uthman ibn Affan - 150,000 dinars and enormous land and villages
3/Zayd ibn Thabit - left so much gold when he died it had to be broke by
hammers and 100,000 dinars
4/ Al-Zubayr - 50,000 dinars, 1000 horses and holdings in basra and Egypt.
5/ Abu Huraira - when Umar made him governer of Bahrain he had no moey but
later he amased a lot of wealth and purchased horses for 1600 dinars. Umar
beat him severely until he fell to the ground!
This has been extensivly reported by historians like Al-masudi in
Muruj-Al-Dhahab (Vol 2 pg 341) and Al-Tabari - both very famous sunni scholars.
You say the Quran praises them but the quran also warns them:
"Muhammad is just a messenger. Other messengers have gone before him. If he
dies or is killed, will you turn back upon your heels?" (3:143)
wassalaam
Miguel Angel
Hi! I'm a new Muslim from Ichbilit, Al-Andalus. I'm reading too many things
about Qur'an and Sunna to learn quickly.
As far I know, Abu Huraira (She-katty father) hated women (misoginy) and Aisha
argued constantly with him.
Respect to "woman, dog and ass", that is a part of a conversation beetwen
Muhammad (pbuh) and a Jew merchant, Muhammad (pbuh) didn't agree with the Jews
who said that things... Abu Huraira only heared last part of conversation.
Cyrus Bassir
Kindly remember that not all COMPANIONS were of the same level of faith
and love for Allah Taalla and The holy Rassool(pbuh).
The holy Quran and the traditions tell us that
many of them on different occassions would go
against the Wish Of Allah and Rassool(pbuh).
In the battle of Hunain all companions fled the battle scene and left
the Messenger alone, only
10 men mostly Hashemi at their head Ali Ibn Abi Talib(SA) who was not
just a companion
but related to Prophet by blood, and on two
separate occassions chosen by holy Prophet
in Pact of Brotherhood, these 10 defended the
holy Messenger of Allah Taalla.
Definitly not all companions were the same.
and definitly none was closer to the holy Prophet(PBUH) than Ali(AS) and
the AHL-ULBAYT. This is a must for us moslems
to know. In almost all books of HADITH the
PROPHET said: ANNA MADINATON ILMO WA
ALI YON BABAHA. I AM THE CITY OF KNOWLEDGE AND ALI IS THE GATE TO THE
CITY. So if we want to enter the CITY OF ILM
OR KNOWLEDGE OF ALLAH, WE SHOULD GO THE WAY OF ALI(SA). Wasalam.
abdulla...@gmail.com
DKleinecke
e:
> The truth about the conflict between Aisha and Abuhuraira concerning the =
prophetic tradition is that it is sufficient to proof the weekness of the p=
s not a monolithic whole. Reading the isnads one can catch sight of differe=
nt schools of tradition whom al-Bukhari et al merged together. Aisha is the=
main voice in what seems be the Zubayrid school (mostly via Urwa ibn al-Zu=
bayr). The nearest thing to an official school is that of Abdullah ibn Umar=
. Abu Hurayra forms, essentially, a school all by himself. It is possible t=
hat Abu Hurayra, as a person, never existed and he was only created to serv=
e as the author of a rejected surat called al-Hurayra. =20
There are a number of references indicating that the Abu Hurayra material w=
as already in a book around the end of the first century. If we had that bo=
ok it would be the best record of early Islam (apart, of course, from the Q=
uran) but the original book seems to have been smothered under a massive am=
ount of new material created by second century hadithmasters. And it is har=
d, possibly impossible, to get at the original Abu Hurayra.
The schools of the Zubayrids and ibn Umar have also been expanded and the s=
chool of ibn Abbas is a real mess. There are other minor schools but too mu=
ch from every school seems to be second century "improvements". I am not su=
re that there is any reason to believe this unfortunate state will ever be =
resolved.