The Nicolaitanes

[Robert Meyers]

you wrote:

>
>
>Rev 2:6 But this thou hast, that thou hatest the deeds
>of the Nicolaitans, which I also hate.

>Rev 2:15 So hast thou also them that hold the doctrine of >the Nicolaitans, which thing I hate.
>
>The Nicolaitans had deeds and doctrine that God hates.
>If God hates them, we should hate those deeds and doctrine
> too. But what were they, that we can know to hate them?

As I have posted before, I believe this is one of the
passages that points up the necessity of viewing
Revelation as what it is:

It is PROPHECY; about the coming Day of the Lord.

It is not about the present Mystery Church, of today.

The Nicolaitanes, like the Church of Thyatira, never
existed in history. They are a FUTURE people who will be
very well known to those saints to whom Revelation is
addressed (Rev. 1:9): those future saints who are going to
have to go through the awful Great Tribulation (1:1-4).

Revelation knows absolutely nothing about the Apostle
Paul, the Mystery, our Blessed Hope, the Rapture, the
indwelling Spirit, Timothy, or practically anything else
of the whole NT history, except the Lord's death for our
sins and the Twelve Apostles of the Lamb. For the simple
reason that Revelation is not concerned with any of these,
but rather with the fulfilment of the Seventieth Week and
the things following.

The economy of Revelation is totally contrary to the
present Dispensation (eg Rev. 2:9 and 3:9 contr Eph
2:15-16, Gal 5:6, 3:28, etc.

Bob

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[Donald L. Shaffer]

On 7 Aug 2003 10:11:04 -0400, "Robert Meyers" <rmey...@charter.net>
wrote:

>
>
>you wrote:
>
>>
>>
>>Rev 2:6 But this thou hast, that thou hatest the deeds
>>of the Nicolaitans, which I also hate.
>
>>Rev 2:15 So hast thou also them that hold the doctrine of >the Nicolaitans, which thing I hate.
>>
>>The Nicolaitans had deeds and doctrine that God hates.
>>If God hates them, we should hate those deeds and doctrine
>> too. But what were they, that we can know to hate them?
>
>As I have posted before, I believe this is one of the
>passages that points up the necessity of viewing
>Revelation as what it is:
>
>It is PROPHECY; about the coming Day of the Lord.
>
>It is not about the present Mystery Church, of today.
>
>The Nicolaitanes, like the Church of Thyatira, never
>existed in history. They are a FUTURE people who will be
>very well known to those saints to whom Revelation is
>addressed (Rev. 1:9): those future saints who are going to
>have to go through the awful Great Tribulation (1:1-4).

The Nicolaitans are mentioned in the same way as Balaam and Jezebel.
Did they never exist in history either? I agree that they represent a
future (or current) people.

>Revelation knows absolutely nothing about the Apostle
>Paul, the Mystery,

Rev 10:7 But in the days of the voice of the seventh angel, when he
shall begin to sound, the mystery of God should be finished, as he
hath declared to his servants the prophets.

It looks like Revelation knows about the Mystery of God.

>our Blessed Hope,

The glorious appearing I think can be seen in chapter 10.

>the Rapture,

The Rapture can be seen in the first harvest of chapter 14.

>the indwelling Spirit,

Are you sure that the Spirit wasn't talking to the seven churches from
within?

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Donald L. Shaffer

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