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Lineage from Abraham to Baha'u'llah

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cdlo...@aol.com

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Dec 15, 1996, 3:00:00 AM12/15/96
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Can anybody point to the proper book, if any, detailing the lineage from
Abraham to Baha'u'llah. I'm trying to convince my father that the Baha'i
faith is not a cult just because he never heard of us.

I'm a new Baha'i myself. The closest I got to this problem(?) was in
William Sears "A Thief in the Night", which also convinced me that
Baha'u'llah was Christ returned.


Barry Blackford

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Dec 16, 1996, 3:00:00 AM12/16/96
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You have to trace His life through Zoroaster and Through Abraham's
third wife Keturah.



Maya Kaathryn Bohnhoff

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Dec 16, 1996, 3:00:00 AM12/16/96
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cdlo...@aol.com wrote:
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> Can anybody point to the proper book, if any, detailing the lineage from
> Abraham to Baha'u'llah. I'm trying to convince my father that the Baha'i
> faith is not a cult just because he never heard of us.

I recall reading once long ago that Baha'u'llah was descended from
Abraham through Abraham's third wife, Keturah.

As far as where that information is located, you might try one the
biographies of Baha'u'llah. There are a number of them out there
including Baha'u'allah by H.M. Balyuzi and a series of books on
Baha'u'llah by Teherzadeh, I believe.

The Baha'i web sites, they might have that information.

You might also want to remind your father that Christianity was
viewed as a pretty heinous cult on and off for about 200 years
after its birth. Nothing like history to put the present into
perspective. :)

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Robert Moldenhauer

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Dec 17, 1996, 3:00:00 AM12/17/96
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Abraham had male children by three women. His wife Sarah, who bore
him a son Isaac, the father of the Jewish race. A servant girl,
Hagar, who bore him a son called Ishma'el, the father of the Arab
race. And Keturah, a concubine/mistress who bore him six sons Zimron,
Jokshan, Med'ian, Ishbak and Shu'ah.

Basically if you have an Arab and a Jewish ancestor then you are
descendant of Abraham through Hagar and Sarah. Baha'u'llah had both.

Keturah's sons sort of disappear in the Bible, they are mentioned in 1
Chroncles 1:25, but that's it.

There is a belief that at least some of these descendants of Abraham
and Keturah made there way to ancient Iran and were in some way
related to Zoroaster. A lot of this depends on when you place
Zoroaster's lifetime. Scholars tend to put it in the mid seventh
century BCE, but there is evidence for the 11th century BCE as well.
Many modern Zoroastrians put him as far back as the 4th, 5th or 6th
Millenium BCE. If we go with the 6th or 11th Century dates the
connection is possible.


In article <"4dNomC.A.93E.nqMty"@bounty>, cdlo...@aol.com says...


>
>Can anybody point to the proper book, if any, detailing the lineage
from
>Abraham to Baha'u'llah. I'm trying to convince my father that the
Baha'i
>faith is not a cult just because he never heard of us.
>

>I'm a new Baha'i myself. The closest I got to this problem(?) was in

>William Sears "A Thief in the Night", which also convinced me that
>Baha'u'llah was Christ returned.
>


Susan Maneck

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Dec 17, 1996, 3:00:00 AM12/17/96
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Baha'u'llah's geneology was originally compiled by Mirza Abu'l-Fadl
in response to questions raised by Zoroatrians. This is why His
discent is traced through the last Sassanian king. Unfortunately it
has since been lost. No geneology, prophecies or miracles, IMO can
really establish the truth of a religion. Baha'u'llah point to three
evidences as being self-evident:

1) The Person of the Manifestation

2) The divinely revealed Word.

3) The potency of the Revelation.

Susan
sma...@berry.edu


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