Vacant position
Dave
Northern Virginia chapter of national organization seeks a dynamic,
committed individual to serve as its Executive Director. Salary is in
the $30K range.
Responsibilities include:
Develop, manage, and expand programs to educate the public about the
dangers of drinking and driving. Provide advocacy and outreach to
victims of drunk driving (training will be provided). Create and
implement marketing and outreach efforts including newsletter, web site,
special events. Collaborate with Board of Directors to develop
fundraising strategy and oversee its implementation (to include: grant
writing, special event planning, membership drives). Seek to increase
MADD’s visibility by representing MADD to the public at events such as:
community events, conferences, and hearings. Serve as liaison with
victims, members, partner organizations, and other community
organizations. Maintain administrative systems including fiscal
management, budgeting, supply procurement, and information
systems/database management.
Recommended Qualifications: At least three years work experience;
nonprofit/association management experience; proven history of
successful fundraising; demonstrated ability in public speaking, written
and oral communication, and interpersonal relations; familiarity with
computers and knowledgeable about the Internet; ability to work
independently and to balance multiple tasks at once; demonstrated
maturity and sound judgment. Familiarity with drunk driving issues
preferred; complete support of MADD’s mission absolutely required.
Previous experience in counseling or support of victims is a plus.
Position reports directly to the Board of Directors; person serves as
employee of MADD National Office. MADD Northern Virginia serves the
areas of Arlington, Fairfax, Loudoun, Fauquier, and Prince William
counties and the cities of Alexandria, Falls Church, Fairfax, Manassas,
and Manassas Park. Office is located in Fairfax, VA.
Please submit cover letter, resume, and writing sample to
tjta...@ix.netcom.com.
Mike Anderson
Salary is in the $30K range. !!!
Are you MAD?
Stephen Shaner
I'd be happy to apply. Have 15 years experience as an ED, 10 in drug and
alcohol. Assuming, of course, that for 30 K this is a 1/3-time position!
Steve
stinky
$30K....yeah, right!
Dave wrote in message <3553A1B1...@ix.netcom.com>...
>Northern Virginia chapter of national organization seeks a dynamic,
>committed individual to serve as its Executive Director. Salary is in
>the $30K range.
<snippage>
Sgraham94
Salary sure is LOW
Artemis
On Sat, 9 May 1998 10:41:21 EDT, Sgra...@aol.com (Sgraham94) wrote,
among others:
>Salary sure is LOW
Hey, welcome to the South, boys...low cost of living followed by an
even lower salary...heck, some of the areas are still waiting for the
20th century to arrive.
Artemis
Badfdn
>Salary sure is LOW
>
>Hey, welcome to the South, boys...low cost of living followed by an
>even lower salary...heck, some of the areas are still waiting for the
>20th century to arrive.
>
>Artemis
Last time I checked the cost of living in Norther VA (read suburban DC) was
outrageous. 30k is too low
Mike Anderson
Dave
I contemplated not writing this but after reading some of the responses and
even more private e-mail, I couldn't help it.
The fact of the matter is that there are reasons the salary is low for this
area, none of which are neccessary to make public. Did all of the people who
e-mailed me think I was that stupid. That was the reason the salary was
listed at the very beginning. If you weren't interested then you should just
move on. I am amazed at the amount of time people took to negatively respond
to something that would never affect them.
Next time, just move on.
David Kelly
Naskov
I definitely agree that the pay is too low, but do not see how that is a big
surprise. Have you looked at any nonprofit job ads lately? A large number of
my grad schools peers are working for peanuts.
Channing Hillway, Ph.D.
Dave:
I guess the responses were not what you were expecting. I found it
interesting to see how many people felt compelled to complain about the low
salary. Yes, the salary is low, especially for folks who are committed to what
they are doing and hold at least, usually, a Bachelor's degree. If it were just
a starting salary, fine; but that is probably not the case.
Both the non-profit and education sectors suffer from very low salaries for
the quality of work being done and the amount of preparation, both in education
and experience, necessary to do the jobs well.
It was appropriate, in my opinion, for you to post the information. It was
equally appropriate for anyone who felt like it to express and opinion about the
salary. Keeping the channels of communication open is always an imperative of
the highest order. If we all stopped communicating when we received a message
we didn't like, we'd have some serious problems. Some families are like that
and they do have the problems.
I hope you will continue to post and that others will continue to respond as
they see fit.
Best wishes,
Channing
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Badfdn
>Dave wrote:
>
>> I contemplated not writing this but after reading some of the responses and
>> even more private e-mail, I couldn't help it.
>>
>> The fact of the matter is that there are reasons the salary is low for this
>> area, none of which are neccessary to make public. Did all of the people
>who
>> e-mailed me think I was that stupid. That was the reason the salary was
>> listed at the very beginning. If you weren't interested then you should
>just
>> move on. I am amazed at the amount of time people took to negatively
>respond
>> to something that would never affect them.
>>
>> Next time, just move on.
>>
>> David Kelly
Dave,
I am sorry if you were offended by the posts. I believe they were a response
to the devaluation of the work and dedication among non-profit professionals.
It is my sincere hope you find a qualified individual who can lead your
organization successfully. Hopefully, your board will create salary incentives
for good work. All too often, though, salaries remain low regardless of output
and qualified candidates move on, thus hurting the organization. I am sure you
will address this issue. Good Luck and keep helping others.
Bmsamson
David,
Having lived in the DC area for a while, I too was surprised at the salary
listed. Why I didn't respond I don't know. However, I do think the responses
enlightening; if not for you than for some here (e.g. the one who even now is
trying to budget a salary structure for her organization and looking for
resources to help her to do so.)
Nobody thinks you're stupid. (Well, at least I don't). However, those who set
salaries for nonprofit organizations do unfortunately forget sometimes that
most of us need to live off of what we make, and even that some of us after
decades in the field feel we should be making a decent living. They think a
nonprofit career includes vows of poverty I guess. The kind of commentary your
posting, and the salary note contained therein, generated, might help some like
that to see that might not be the case.
Ok, so maybe that's not you either. But lacking more information, the
responses did seem appropriate. (besides, if your reasons are an organization
in financial difficulties, it would appear the ED job is 'worth' even more
given the challenges ahead, not less. Think of what all those corporate rescue
specialists are pulling down to run and hopefully turn around the fortunes of
struggling for-profit corporations)
Bennett M. Samson
Strength in Numbers
Fundraising Consulting & Support for Museums & NonProfit Organizations
bmsa...@aol.com
Bmsamson
Mike --
You're right on the NVa/DC thing. I moved from DC to Texas precisely because I
couldn't afford to live there and work in the non-profit sector (and I was
making close to $100k when I left). Though I bill my clients here in Texas
only half of what I do for eastern clients, my quality of life is far better
due to the lower cost of living. Too bad the public doesn't understand that we
need to eat too, and gets so upset seeing reasonable salaries for nonprofit
professionals.
Joe Schlatter
An income of $30K in Northern Virgina, for a family of more than one,
will qualify the family for low-income housing assistance from the
Virginia Housing Development Authority.
Winnie
When I began following this discussion, my first response was
identical to yours. If they are not interested, then move on. On the
other hand, this is a newsgroup on the Internet, and for better and/or
worse that implies a particular form of democracy.
Your response seems to imply that it was okay for you to use the
newsgroup to go fishing for a candidate at below par compensation, but
it was not okay for others to criticize that approach.
I would agree that private Email to you was excessive (although it is
possibly the result of unfamiliarity with how to reply to a post). If
you experienced the replies as harassment, then I hope that others
will recognize that their private Email was an inappropriate response.
Obviously, your post struck a chord about 'haves and have nots,' which
is an essence of not for profit work.
Arcangeal
Dave wrote in message <355793E8...@ix.netcom.com>...
>The fact of the matter is that there are reasons the salary is low for this
>area, none of which are neccessary to make public.
Hmmm . . . Whatever could those non- public reasons be? Let's see, may be
it's because . . . no that would be too cynical . . . Oh what the heck.
Could it be that if you set a very low salary that no reasonbly qualified
candidate would accept that you are then free to offer that salary as a
sweet heart deal to someone who doesn't do any actual work but instead
"offers advice and recognition" to your organization. Someone like a
relative or friend with a full time job.
I've never had much respect for your organization, and I have less now.
Good things do not grow in the dark
Dave
Sorry, I won't take the bait. It does nothing to promote our mission of saving
lives and preventing injuries. But thanks for showing an example of what I was
talking about earlier about personal and uncalled for attacks about the post.
If you want to make a productive comment about salaries, let's hear it.
TALENTSCOUT
There are people who don't put money first and who would help because they
are altruistic or because they are creative and/or have an independent
source of income.
I am very dedicated to the mission of our non profit and I will fully
devote my time and energy to it whether or not there is money handy at
the moment. I am also creative enough to figure out fund-raising
activities if that is what is needed. I would imagine that an imaginative
person could begin with the salary that is being offered, and could also
creatively and sucessfully help the non-profit to expand, thereby creating
the means to get a larger salary in the near future.
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On 11 May 1998 12:59:50 GMT, bad...@aol.com (Badfdn) wrote:
>>Salary sure is LOW
>>
>>Hey, welcome to the South, boys...low cost of living followed by an
>>even lower salary...heck, some of the areas are still waiting for the
>>20th century to arrive.
>>
>>Artemis
>></PR
>
>Last time I checked the cost of living in Norther VA (read suburban DC) was
>outrageous. 30k is too low
You are correct. A modest 3 bedroom house is well over $200K, if you
don't live too close in to DC.
Joe Schlatter
Enlightened non-profit Boards are beginning to recognize that the
organization gets a lot more done if they pay their people a decent wage
so the staff can concentrate on the mission, and not worry about their
family's futures. Of course folks who work in non-profits are committed
but the idea that non-profit jobs require wearing a hair shirt is
nonsense. Pay them what they ar worth and see where it takes you.
I came in as executive director two years ago after a 30-year-miiltary
career. I have turned over the senior staff competely, raised salaries,
instituted serious forecasting and planning, devised individual training
plans to get the staff trained in what they are doing, and put things on
a professional footing (still have a good bit to do) and you would not
believe the difference. What took weeks now takes days; budget is under
control; fund raising is up; volunteers are much happier because we
answer their questions the day they ask; etc., etc. Amazing what people
will do for you when you don't require them to sacrifice all the time --
just occasionally.
Westend180
David - if there is a reason why the salary is so low, it might have been a
good idea to at least hint at the reason. You are getting the reactions of a
lot of experienced people who have to support families.
Whether or not people really need the money (!) the salary offered for a
position implies the value placed on it. A salary of thirty thousand dollars a
year for an executive director in Northern Virginia , USA, makes educated,
experienced, hard working people feel disrespected.
If you are supplementing the salary with a free residence and board for a
family of four or are asking someone to volunteer or join a religious order,
you should say so.
Bonnie Osinski
TALENTSCOUT
Thanks for sharing your experience. I'm happy to hear of your success.
At this time, because of problems associated with natural disasters, we
don't have money and we have been forced to start all over again.
Thankfully, I am affiliated with a growing coalition of goal-oriented
people who are self-starters, devoted to their cause whether there is
money or not.
We have, in the past, run circles around people with money... we plan to
repeat our performance.
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than a collection of art & music," says Showbiz Pioneer & Living Legend,
Nick Stewart, co-founder Ebony Showcase Theatre Cultural Arts Center, Inc.
(Est. 1950) & Surviving Cast-member (Lightnin') of "Amos 'n' Andy TV show
and (Brer Bear) of Disney's "Song of the South."
TALENTSCOUT
Maybe they are offering what their budget will allow. They are seeking
someone who believes in their cause. I don't put money first and I know
other people who are devoted to our cause just as I am. We are driven by
integrity and by a desire for justice.
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than a collection of art & music," says Showbiz Pioneer & Living Legend,
Nick Stewart, co-founder Ebony Showcase Theatre Cultural Arts Center, Inc.
(Est. 1950) & Surviving Cast-member (Lightnin') of "Amos 'n' Andy TV show
and (Brer Bear) of Disney's "Song of the South."
On Mon, 18 May 1998, Arcangeal wrote:
>
> Dave wrote in message <355CDEF4...@ix.netcom.com>...
> >Sorry, I won't take the bait. It does nothing to promote our mission of
> saving
> >lives and preventing injuries. But thanks for showing an example of what I
> was
> >talking about earlier about personal and uncalled for attacks about the
> post.
> >
> >If you want to make a productive comment about salaries, let's hear it.
> >
>
>
> My response wasn't meant as bait. You mention hidden reasons why you won't
> offer a living wage for a full time position. Allowing yourself to operate
> in secrecy causes nothing but this kind of speculation. Such theorizing is
> even more warranted when the organization has as high a face, and as big a
> budget as yours.
>
> So why won't you offer a realistic wage? Forget the fact you may or may not
> like my manner of asking. Just tell us all. Why won't you offer a
> realistic wage?
>
> We are here to share information that is relavent to running a non-profit.
> This is something I would like to know. What would be the benefit to having
> someone in the position who could walk out and make double the money at a
> moments notice? I remain puzzled.
>
> Thanks
> Mike
>
>
>
>