Re: There is absolutely no restriction on the basis of belief, race, source, social position or nationality.
Larry W
>
> Looks to me as if the Dutch Grootoosten does not require a belief in a
> Supreme Being?
>
Have a look at
http://www.vrijmetselarij.nl/Ordesite/Paginas/AntwDoelVM/tabid/567/Default.aspx#1.3.
It seems to confirm that a belief in a Supreme Being is required. It's
hard to tell without a doubt because it's being translated (poorly,
sometimes), but the allusion is there.
Frats,
Larry
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Forest Grove #37, RAM | Tualatin #31, OES
Sunset #20, Cryptic | Dad, Hillsboro #24, IORG
Of the Grand Lodge, Chapter(2), Council, Court and Assembly of Oregon
Bill M
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> Looks to me as if the Dutch Grootoosten does not require a belief in a
> Supreme Being?
> Chris
The Grand East of the Netherlands is in amity with (at least) the Grand
Lodges of Scotland, England and Ireland so I'd bet that it does. Have
you asked the question of the Grand East of the Netherlands?
Best,
Bill.
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Chris Jacobs" <ctja...@zhaum.xs4all.nl>
Newsgroups: soc.org.freemasonry
Sent: Tuesday, August 04, 2009 6:10 PM
Subject: There is absolutely no restriction on the basis of belief, race,
source, social position or nationality.
> {quote}
> Kan iedereen lid worden van de Orde van Vrijmetselaren?
>
> Het lidmaatschap staat open voor iedere vrije man van goede naam.
> Dat laatste wil zeggen dat zijn reputatie geen aanleiding zal geven tot
> discussie.
> Er is geen enkele beperking op grond van geloof, ras, afkomst,
> maatschappelijke positie of nationaliteit.
> Wel dient men de leeftijd van 18 jaar te hebben bereikt.
> {/quote}
> http://www.vrijmetselarij.nl/Ordesite/Paginas/AntwLidmaatschap/tabid/575/Default.aspx#4.1
Try using google translate - much better:-
"Can anyone become a member of the Order of Free Mets Laren [ie.
Freemasons]? Membership is open to every free man of good name [ie.
repute]. The latter means that his reputation will not give rise to
discussion. There is no restriction on grounds of religion, race, origin,
social status or nationality. However, the age of 18 years [must] have
[been] achieved. "
>
> Looks to me as if the Dutch Grootoosten does not require a belief in a
> Supreme Being?
The Dutch lodges under the Grand East of the Netherlands which I visit all
have a VSL and obligate their candidates upon it - requiring therefore a
belief in a Supreme Being :-)
Larry W
>
> A VSL that can be interpreted differently :-)
>
> How do you interpret it?
I interpret them the same way, equally. Regardless which is placed upon the
Altar of Freemasonry in the position of Great Light, is symbolic of and
represents, for me, my VSL. It is a symbol in its purpose.
--
PM, Holbrook #30, AF&AM | Forest Grove #37, RAM | Tualatin #31, OES
RP, Acacia #22, Amaranth | Sunset #20, Cryptic | Dad, Hillsboro #24, IORG