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Jim Bowery

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Dec 9, 1992, 1:00:26 PM12/9/92
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It's quite obvious to anyone versed in politics that Clinton
never intended to honor his campaign promise to allow homosexuals
in the military. He duped the gays into working their little
butts off to raise money for him. Clinton dangled visions of
those nice, young, sex-starved, athletic, duty-bound boys
in front of the gay community to motivate them to extrordinary
levels of volunteer effort.

It's really one of the funniest things I've ever seen.

Those of you who worked so hard on his campaign in hopes of using
tax dollars and military discipline to imprint impressionable young
boys are probably engaging in mental gymnastics to avoid facing the
fact that Clinton put one over on you, just when you thought you
were putting one over on the American people.

But just face it:

If Clinton had been serious about letting gays into the military,
he would have avoided LIKE THE PLAGUE any early move which would
create a preemptive backlash from conservative elements in our
society and military. He would have waited until he was in office
and simply acted in the most effective, and least obtrusive manner
possible.

You don't get elected President by being a political idiot. Clinton's
apparent political "blunder" was carefully calculated to provide him
with an excuse to simply not act on his campaign promise to you gays.

We'll see if one of your Jewish American Princesses in the
Senate like Boxer or Feinstien are MAN enough to take on the
Arkansas Stud. Fat chance.

Better luck next time, AIDS-vectors.

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Bryan J. Blumberg

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Dec 9, 1992, 4:56:51 PM12/9/92
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In article <F81iVB...@netlink.cts.com> Jim Bowery, j...@netlink.cts.com
writes:

>It's quite obvious to anyone versed in politics that Clinton
>never intended to honor his campaign promise to allow homosexuals
>in the military.

According to the Newsweek magazine which I received in the mail
yesterday, Clinton still intends to honor his campaign promise.

The full policy change may take a year of study to decide
on the exact implementation, but the decision to lift the ban
is not one of the issues that is "on the table." Furthermore,
the witch hunts will stop immediately.

Also there will be a new code of sexual conduct which will
apply equally to all members of the service regardless of
their sexual orientation. That is to ease the so-called
fears of the breeder soldiers from being hit-on by lesbian
and gay soldiers and also to prevent situations like the one
that took place at last year's Tailhook convention from being
repeated.

>We'll see if one of your Jewish American Princesses in the
>Senate like Boxer or Feinstien are MAN enough to take on the
>Arkansas Stud. Fat chance.

Clearly Feinstien and Boxer are not men. But you can
be sure that Boxer is a feisty fighter. Feinstein may play a
little more by the rules, however. I voted for both of the,
as well as Clinton. I am glad that our two senators are not
men.

To quote you, "it's quite obvious to anyone versed in"
physiology, that women have greater endurance than men.

>Better luck next time, AIDS-vectors.

What does this have to do with the rest of your post?

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Rod Williams

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Dec 9, 1992, 5:57:17 PM12/9/92
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> j...@netlink.cts.com (Jim Bowery) writes:

Just when I thought that reasoned political discourse was
alive and well on USENET, ol' Jimbo shows his true colors...

>We'll see if one of your Jewish American Princesses in the
>Senate like Boxer or Feinstien are MAN enough to take on the
>Arkansas Stud. Fat chance.
>
>Better luck next time, AIDS-vectors.

...and renders his article at best meaningless.
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Mike Drayton

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Dec 9, 1992, 7:48:59 PM12/9/92
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Rod Williams (rjw...@PacBell.COM) wrote:
> > j...@netlink.cts.com (Jim Bowery) writes:
>
> Just when I thought that reasoned political discourse was
> alive and well on USENET...

Oh, Rod, you're such an innocent!

Mike Drayton mdra...@sr.hp.com Hewlett-Packard Co.
Santa Rosa, California

Bob Donahue

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Dec 9, 1992, 10:05:25 PM12/9/92
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j...@netlink.cts.com (Jim Bowery) writes:

[garbage]

Oh look! cts.com is back online!

I note this because it was one of the places that cropped up
trying to track down Artimus Page one night.

I'd keep an eye on this place.

BBC

REAL LIFE?!?! HA!!

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Dec 9, 1992, 10:42:16 PM12/9/92
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j...@netlink.cts.com (Jim Bowery) writes:

>Clinton dangled visions of
>those nice, young, sex-starved, athletic, duty-bound boys
>in front of the gay community to motivate them to extrordinary
>levels of volunteer effort.

>Those of you who worked so hard on his campaign in hopes of using


>tax dollars and military discipline to imprint impressionable young
>boys are probably engaging in mental gymnastics to avoid facing the
>fact that Clinton put one over on you, just when you thought you
>were putting one over on the American people.

Funny, all this time I thought the reason I wanted the military ban abolished
was for the purpose of equality. Silly me. I guess you're right, Jim, we have
been claiming for decades that we are born gay for no other reason than to get
America's guard down so we can recruit all the "decent", "upstanding" young
men in America to our sinful way of life.

Tell me something, Jim. Do you know any lesbians or gays? If so, do they talk
of the master plan (which probably includes a cabal of some sort) to force
good Americans to become homosexual? Actually, I doubt you have any gay
friends. You'd probably be too afraid they'd grab you and sodomize you and
try to push homosexuality into your good, clean, lily-white-trash mind.

I used to think that attitudes like yours were a joke. Now I just wish they
were.

>Better luck next time, AIDS-vectors.

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Funny, I think if I were this tremendous an asshole, I would be reluctant to
let people know who I was.
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Bob Lodenkamper

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Dec 9, 1992, 11:44:46 PM12/9/92
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In article <1992Dec9.2...@draco.macsch.com> Bryan J. Blumberg
<b...@macsch.com> rebuts a bunch of swill posted by:

writes a bunch of swill:

[mixed swill and rebuttal of swill deleted, except for final
exchange]

>Better luck next time, AIDS-vectors.

What does this have to do with the rest of your post?

That's easy. The other stupidities in Mr. Bowery's post strongly
suggest that a rebuttal is a waste of time. This last item proves it.

- Bob

Martin...@gtri.gatech.edu

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Dec 10, 1992, 10:18:46 AM12/10/92
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In article <Bz0y...@news.cso.uiuc.edu>,
mcha...@ux4.cso.uiuc.edu (Michael T. Chaffee) writes to
j...@netlink.cts.com (Jim Bowery):
>
> ... Actually, I doubt you have any gay

> friends. You'd probably be too afraid they'd grab you and sodomize you and
> try to push homosexuality into your good, clean, lily-white-trash mind.

Only in his dreams...

('Ole Jim just sounds to me like another one of those homophobic closet
queens from hell. Hang in there Jimmy Bobs, you'll make it.)

--
Martin Brooks
Atlanta, Georgia, USA

Thomas M Farrell

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Dec 10, 1992, 11:00:10 AM12/10/92
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As I found the original posting to be offensive, I forwarded parts of it
back to the original author and their sysadmin, who sent me a very polite
reply thanking me for bringing the matter to their attention and informing me
that the original author has been suitably chewed out.
Tom

Trey Harris

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Dec 10, 1992, 11:08:21 AM12/10/92
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In article <F81iVB...@netlink.cts.com> j...@netlink.cts.com (Jim

Bowery) writes:
>It's quite obvious to anyone versed in politics that Clinton
>never intended to honor his campaign promise to allow homosexuals
>in the military.
[...]

>It's really one of the funniest things I've ever seen.
>
>Those of you who worked so hard on his campaign in hopes of using
>tax dollars and military discipline to imprint impressionable young
>boys are probably engaging in mental gymnastics to avoid facing the
>fact that Clinton put one over on you, just when you thought you
>were putting one over on the American people.

I don't think so. While I certainly feel the wary near-paranoia that
often suffuses my feelings about other straight "liberals" towards
Clinton, I still believe he intends to do it. He may take his own
sweet time (and appoint committee after committee which will do
nothing), but I think eventually he will do it. If nothing else than
for the same reasons it was rumored that Bush may have done so (after
the election of course, when he need not worry about the right-wing
reelecting him).

>Better luck next time, AIDS-vectors.

Oh, go to hell.

Trey Harris
--Stranger in a Strange Thread!

Anthony Peterson

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Dec 10, 1992, 12:21:09 PM12/10/92
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You must be very proud.

Michael Bryan

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Dec 10, 1992, 4:17:47 AM12/10/92
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In article <1992Dec9.2...@draco.macsch.com> Bryan J. Blumberg <b...@macsch.com> writes:
>In article <F81iVB...@netlink.cts.com> Jim Bowery, j...@netlink.cts.com
>writes:
>>Better luck next time, AIDS-vectors.
>
>What does this have to do with the rest of your post?

This statement, and the slur preceeding it, are there to let us know that
this guy is a bigoted jerk who never intended to enter into any real
discussion in the first place.

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Thomas M Farrell

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Dec 10, 1992, 2:50:51 PM12/10/92
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In article <1992Dec10.1...@hemlock.cray.com> a...@cray.com (Anthony Peterson) writes:

You must be very proud.

Oh, I am.

Derek Tearne

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Dec 10, 1992, 2:25:57 PM12/10/92
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In article <F81iVB...@netlink.cts.com> j...@netlink.cts.com (Jim Bowery) writes:

>Better luck next time, AIDS-vectors.

And all that tax payers money spent on AIDS awareness programs and safe sex
leaflets has been completely wasted.

Unlike large groups of the population of the western world HIV does not
discriminate. Perhaps we can learn something from this insidious little
retro-virus.


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Anthony Berno

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Dec 10, 1992, 4:10:37 PM12/10/92
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In article <F81iVB...@netlink.cts.com> j...@netlink.cts.com (Jim Bowery)
writes:

> We'll see if one of your Jewish American Princesses in


> the Senate like Boxer or Feinstien are MAN enough to take
> on the Arkansas Stud. Fat chance.

Wanna bet this is the same fellow as Artimus Page? Same style, same
approach. Wonder if his address is forged.

Anyway, after finding that Artimus Page was an anagram for Armpit Usage
(those that read his posts will understand the humor in this...) I did an
anagram of Jim Bowery. I found that the racist little slimeball's name was
an anagram of:

"Rim Jew Boy"

Clearly, we have a man that is compelled to intimately link anagrams of
his assumed name to things which are the opposite of what he says
explicitly. Diagnosis, anyone? Perhaps some variant of
"cryptocorprolalia"?

(I can name that disorder in.... three postings!)

-Anthony

Daniel B. Holzman

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Dec 10, 1992, 11:06:14 PM12/10/92
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In article <F81iVB...@netlink.cts.com>, j...@netlink.cts.com (Jim Bowery)
writes:

[The usual drivel]

Jimbo! Long time no see! Finally figure how to turn the computer back on?

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Dec 10, 1992, 11:14:47 PM12/10/92
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In article <1992Dec10.0...@resonex.com>, mic...@resonex.com (Michael
Bryan) writes:
> This statement, and the slur preceeding it, are there to let us know that
> this guy is a bigoted jerk who never intended to enter into any real
> discussion in the first place.

Most of us could figure it out from the "Jim BNowery" in the "From" line. :-)

Jack Campin

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Dec 11, 1992, 7:46:53 AM12/11/92
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hol...@d0gslb.fnal.gov (Daniel B. Holzman) wrote:
>, j...@netlink.cts.com (Jim Bowery) writes:
> [The usual drivel]
> Jimbo! Long time no see! Finally figure how to turn the computer back on?

And maybe you (and all the other bozos continuing this mindless prattle)
could finally figure how to read an article header. You've all been cross-
posting to soc.culture.new-zealand.

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Christopher J Burian

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Dec 11, 1992, 3:32:50 AM12/11/92
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gan...@dworkin.ccs.northeastern.edu (Thomas M Farrell) writes:

Jerk.

Greg Parkinson

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Dec 10, 1992, 2:54:25 PM12/10/92
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In article <F81iVB...@netlink.cts.com>, j...@netlink.cts.com (Jim Bowery) writes:
|> It's quite obvious to anyone versed in politics that Clinton
|> never intended to honor his campaign promise to allow homosexuals
|> in the military.

[.... offensive shit deleted ....]

Sounds like sour grapes to me. Left behind and
unvalidated, idiots like this think that
the poor, weak homosexuals will be hurt by their
manly, sensible words.

Bwahahahahaha. No such luck. Get a clue.

We don't care what you think. You are unimportant,
a tiny virtual zit on a great big reactonary ass that's
on it's way out the door.

Bye!


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Michael Witbrock

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Dec 12, 1992, 8:13:19 AM12/12/92
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OK, I'm sure that soc.culture.new-zealand has now had more than it's
fill (so to speak) of Jim Bowwowery (whatever that may may be), his
rantings, and their suite.

So, dahlings, please start editing your follow-up lines...

bises a tous,
michael
euuh - presque tous.

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