Is it harassment when...
Robert S. Coren
Scott Safier <sc...@pink-triangle.NO.org.SPAM> wrote:
>your cow-orkers won't let you have "Barbie Girl" as the ringer on your
>cell phone?
No, that's called an "intervention".
--
---Robert Coren (co...@panix.com)------------------------------------
"Sex isn't a separate thing functioning away all by itself. It's
usually found attached to a person of some sort."
-- Dorothy L. Sayers, _Gaudy Night_
Frank McQuarry
Scott Safier wrote:
>
> your cow-orkers won't let you have "Barbie Girl" as the ringer on your
> cell phone?
In retaliation, you could replace it with the Snuggle Bear Giggle.
Nick Fitch
says...
Springtime For Hitler
--
(nickDOTfitchATbtopenworldDOTcom)
Frank McQuarry
Nick Fitch wrote:
>
> In article <3F5E5350...@earthlink.net>, fmcq...@earthlink.net
> says...
> >
> >
> > Scott Safier wrote:
> > >
> > > your cow-orkers won't let you have "Barbie Girl" as the ringer on your
> > > cell phone?
> >
> > In retaliation, you could replace it with the Snuggle Bear Giggle.
>
> Springtime For Hitler
"If yah got it, baby! Flaunt it! Flaunt it!"
Nick Fitch
says...
Look at me now, I'm wearing a cardboard belt.
--
(nickDOTfitchATbtopenworldDOTcom)
Frank McQuarry
Nick Fitch wrote:
>
> In article <3F5E5554...@earthlink.net>, fmcq...@earthlink.net
> says...
> >
> >
> > Nick Fitch wrote:
> > >
> > > In article <3F5E5350...@earthlink.net>, fmcq...@earthlink.net
> > > says...
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Scott Safier wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > your cow-orkers won't let you have "Barbie Girl" as the ringer on your
> > > > > cell phone?
> > > >
> > > > In retaliation, you could replace it with the Snuggle Bear Giggle.
> > >
> > > Springtime For Hitler
> >
> > "If yah got it, baby! Flaunt it! Flaunt it!"
>
> Look at me now, I'm wearing a cardboard belt.
"My blanket! My blue blanket! Give me my blue blanket!"
John Whiteside
Fitch <nick....@TAKE-THIS-OUTbtopenworld.AND-THIScom> wrote:
> In article <3F5E5350...@earthlink.net>, fmcq...@earthlink.net
> says...
> >
> >
> > Scott Safier wrote:
> > >
> > > your cow-orkers won't let you have "Barbie Girl" as the ringer on your
> > > cell phone?
> >
> > In retaliation, you could replace it with the Snuggle Bear Giggle.
>
> Springtime For Hitler
I hate you!!!!!!
Sim Aberson
"Remember when Oola dance?
Oola dance a-GAIN"
--
Guns were not for girls. They were for boys. They were invented by
boys. They were invented by boys who had never gotten over their
disappointment that accompanying their own orgasm wasn't a big BOOM
sound. Lorrie Moore
Clay Colwell
Harrumph.
The Donkey Kong theme.
Scott Safier
Retaliation? I'm the one trying to get Champ to do it. HE'S
RESISTING -- something about the song from The Exorcist instead
(techno remix, of course)
My phone plays "Praise You" for most calls, "Take On Me" for text
messages, "Walk like an Egyptian" for Champ and "Sweat Dreams" for
select other calls.
Oh, and I can take pictures with it and access the web. It's David
Fenton's worst nightmare. The only thing to make it more perfect
would be TiVO.
--
Scott http://www.pink-triangle.org/scott
"Stand firm for what you believe in until or unless logic or experience prove
you wrong. Remember, when the emperor looks naked the emperor is naked. The
truth and a lie are not sort of the same thing. And there's no aspect, no
facet, no moment of life that can't be improved with pizza." -- Daria
Michael Sarris
> Frank McQuarry:
>
>>
>>Scott Safier wrote:
>>
>>>your cow-orkers won't let you have "Barbie Girl" as the ringer on your
>>>cell phone?
>>
>>In retaliation, you could replace it with the Snuggle Bear Giggle.
>
>
> Retaliation? I'm the one trying to get Champ to do it. HE'S
> RESISTING -- something about the song from The Exorcist instead
> (techno remix, of course)
>
> My phone plays "Praise You" for most calls, "Take On Me" for text
> messages, "Walk like an Egyptian" for Champ and "Sweat Dreams" for
> select other calls.
Sweat dreams do I desire
Shirtless men who will perspire
I lift up their arms
Taste their salty seas
Everybody's licking their armpits
Sweat dreams do I decant
Who needs anti-perspirant?
A river that runs
Down their shapely buns
Hot 'n' sweaty, just how I like it
Michael, working up a sweat
--
Michael Sarris -- mund...@hotmail.com
"I smell the sweat of love
I feel the essence of our fusion
No confusion"
-- Zap Mama, "Ya Solo"
Frank McQuarry
But, Cllllaaaaayyyyy, the Snuggle Bear is soooooooo
cuuuuuuuuuuuuuutttee!
Frank McQuarry
Scott Safier wrote:
>
> Frank McQuarry:
> >
> >
> > Scott Safier wrote:
> >>
> >> your cow-orkers won't let you have "Barbie Girl" as the ringer on your
> >> cell phone?
> >
> > In retaliation, you could replace it with the Snuggle Bear Giggle.
>
> Retaliation? I'm the one trying to get Champ to do it. HE'S
> RESISTING -- something about the song from The Exorcist instead
> (techno remix, of course)
Well, all right, "punishment" then.
John Whiteside
<sc...@pink-triangle.NO.org.SPAM> wrote:
> Oh, and I can take pictures with it and access the web. It's David
> Fenton's worst nightmare. The only thing to make it more perfect
> would be TiVO.
I now use my TiVo to stream MP3s from my computer. I didn't think I'd
like it as much as I do.
Ken Rudolph
Hmmm. Well, I bought a TiVo for my DirecTV system as a birthday
present for myself. It's taken a while to get it installed; but
tomorrow is the big day. I guess I'll finally see what all the hoo
ha is about.
--Ken Rudolph
Clay Colwell
If I find a Snuggle Bear, dipped in guacamole and singing "Tomorrow",
on my doorstep, I know who to kill.
Mike McKinley
>Frank McQuarry <fmcq...@earthlink.net> wrote in message news:<3F5FAACA...@earthlink.net>...
>
>
>>Clay Colwell wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Frank McQuarry <fmcq...@earthlink.net> wrote in message news:<3F5E5350...@earthlink.net>...
>>>
>>>
>>>>Scott Safier wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>your cow-orkers won't let you have "Barbie Girl" as the ringer on your
>>>>>cell phone?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>In retaliation, you could replace it with the Snuggle Bear Giggle.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>Harrumph.
>>>
>>>The Donkey Kong theme.
>>>
>>>
>>But, Cllllaaaaayyyyy, the Snuggle Bear is soooooooo
>>cuuuuuuuuuuuuuutttee!
>>
>>
>If I find a Snuggle Bear, dipped in guacamole and singing "Tomorrow",
>on my doorstep, I know who to kill.
>
>
Oh, Claylene! I think we need to hit the karaoke bar again!
"I - feel a song comin' on!"
--
¿...qué podemos saber las mujeres sino las filosofías de cocina? Bien dijo Lupercio Leonardo, que bien se puede filosofar y aderezar la cena. Y yo suelo decir viendo estas cosillas: Si Aristóteles hubiera guisado, mucho más hubiera escrito."
("...what can we women know, save philosophies of the kitchen? It was well put by Lupercio Leonardo that one can philosophize quite well while preparing supper. I often say, when I make these little observations, "Had Aristotle cooked, he would have written a great deal more.")
Sor Juana Inés de la Cruz, La Respuesta
Scott Safier
> Clay Colwell wrote:
>>Frank McQuarry <fmcq...@earthlink.net> wrote in message news:<3F5FAACA...@earthlink.net>...
>>>Clay Colwell wrote:
>>>>Frank McQuarry <fmcq...@earthlink.net> wrote in message news:<3F5E5350...@earthlink.net>...
>>>>>Scott Safier wrote:
>>>>>>your cow-orkers won't let you have "Barbie Girl" as the ringer on your
>>>>>>cell phone?
>>>>>In retaliation, you could replace it with the Snuggle Bear Giggle.
>>>>Harrumph.
>>>>The Donkey Kong theme.
>>>But, Cllllaaaaayyyyy, the Snuggle Bear is soooooooo
>>>cuuuuuuuuuuuuuutttee!
>>If I find a Snuggle Bear, dipped in guacamole and singing "Tomorrow",
>>on my doorstep, I know who to kill.
> Oh, Claylene! I think we need to hit the karaoke bar again!
> "I - feel a song comin' on!"
You can sing to my cell phone ringer!
Mike McKinley
>Mike McKinley:
>
>
>>Clay Colwell wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Frank McQuarry <fmcq...@earthlink.net> wrote in message news:<3F5FAACA...@earthlink.net>...
>>>
>>>
>>>>Clay Colwell wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Frank McQuarry <fmcq...@earthlink.net> wrote in message news:<3F5E5350...@earthlink.net>...
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>Scott Safier wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>your cow-orkers won't let you have "Barbie Girl" as the ringer on your
>>>>>>>cell phone?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>In retaliation, you could replace it with the Snuggle Bear Giggle.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>Harrumph.
>>>>>The Donkey Kong theme.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>But, Cllllaaaaayyyyy, the Snuggle Bear is soooooooo
>>>>cuuuuuuuuuuuuuutttee!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>If I find a Snuggle Bear, dipped in guacamole and singing "Tomorrow",
>>>on my doorstep, I know who to kill.
>>>
>>>
>> Oh, Claylene! I think we need to hit the karaoke bar again!
>> "I - feel a song comin' on!"
>>
>>
>You can sing to my cell phone ringer!
>
>
>
Saffy, darling, some of us are creative and some of us program our
cell phones.
David W. Fenton
<jCednVftgse...@comcast.com>:
My best friend, A., got a TiVo just before he went into the
hospital for an operation that would leave him housebound for 6
weeks. He has never adapted to the TiVo as he hasn't the patience
to set up the Season Passes and Wish Lists that keep the Now
Playing list filled with things you want to watch. He doesn't have
the attention span to do anything but channel surf.
So, if you're someone who programs the VCR to record stuff, TiVo is
*definitely* for you.
If you're someone who sees good movies and programs in TV listings
at 3am and wishes they were on at a different time, TiVo is for
you.
But if you're the type who likes to graze channel by channel,
you'll hate TiVo.
--
David W. Fenton http://www.bway.net/~dfenton
dfenton at bway dot net http://www.bway.net/~dfassoc
Scott Safier
> Scott Safier wrote:
>>Mike McKinley:
>>>Clay Colwell wrote:
>>>>Frank McQuarry <fmcq...@earthlink.net> wrote in message news:<3F5FAACA...@earthlink.net>...
>>>>>Clay Colwell wrote:
>>>>>>Frank McQuarry <fmcq...@earthlink.net> wrote in message news:<3F5E5350...@earthlink.net>...
>>>>>>>Scott Safier wrote:
>>>>>>>>your cow-orkers won't let you have "Barbie Girl" as the ringer on your
>>>>>>>>cell phone?
>>>>>>>In retaliation, you could replace it with the Snuggle Bear Giggle.
>>>>>>Harrumph.
>>>>>>The Donkey Kong theme.
>>>>>But, Cllllaaaaayyyyy, the Snuggle Bear is soooooooo
>>>>>cuuuuuuuuuuuuuutttee!
>>>>If I find a Snuggle Bear, dipped in guacamole and singing "Tomorrow",
>>>>on my doorstep, I know who to kill.
>>> Oh, Claylene! I think we need to hit the karaoke bar again!
>>> "I - feel a song comin' on!"
>>You can sing to my cell phone ringer!
> Saffy, darling, some of us are creative and some of us program our
> cell phones.
Er, you mean you didn't download the development kit to write apps for
your cell phone? ::boggle
Scott Safier
>>tomorrow is the big day. I guess I'll finally see what all the
>>hoo ha is about.
>
> My best friend, A., got a TiVo just before he went into the
> hospital for an operation that would leave him housebound for 6
> So, if you're someone who programs the VCR to record stuff, TiVo is
> *definitely* for you.
Gee, I thought Ken did it to get himself his very own Steve-O to help
with the installation and debugging process...
Mike McKinley
Saffy, I don't even *have* a cell phone.
Frank McQuarry
Scott Safier wrote:
> Er, you mean you didn't download the development kit to write apps for
> your cell phone? ::boggle
I did! I did! J2ME Wireless Toolkit.
Frank McQuarry
Clay Colwell wrote:
>
> Frank McQuarry <fmcq...@earthlink.net> wrote in message news:<3F5FAACA...@earthlink.net>...
> > Clay Colwell wrote:
> > >
> > > Frank McQuarry <fmcq...@earthlink.net> wrote in message news:<3F5E5350...@earthlink.net>...
> > > > Scott Safier wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > your cow-orkers won't let you have "Barbie Girl" as the ringer on your
> > > > > cell phone?
> > > >
> > > > In retaliation, you could replace it with the Snuggle Bear Giggle.
> > >
> > > Harrumph.
> > >
> > > The Donkey Kong theme.
> >
> > But, Cllllaaaaayyyyy, the Snuggle Bear is soooooooo
> > cuuuuuuuuuuuuuutttee!
>
> If I find a Snuggle Bear, dipped in guacamole and singing "Tomorrow",
> on my doorstep, I know who to kill.
MissKinley would never ruin good guacamole with a Snuggle Bear.
John Whiteside
<dXXXf...@bway.net> wrote:
> So, if you're someone who programs the VCR to record stuff, TiVo is
> *definitely* for you.
You know, I hadn't thought of it that way, but that's an excellent
explanation of why some people love TiVo and others don't get it. And
also, I think, why sales have been sluggish; most people have never
programmed their VCRs.
Ken Rudolph
For years, I have spent major time every day programming my 3 VCRs
(one connected to the satellite, the other two to cable.) I watch
all my entertainment programs from tape to avoid commercial clutter.
And I almost never misrecord or miss a desired recording. That
said, the allure of having 3 usable simultaneous satellite signals
along with all the programming options that TiVo offers finally won
me over. So far, after only a few hours with the device, I can see
that it is a wonderful fit for my tv viewing habits.
I guess I'll have to see how reliable it is in the long run; but
today's experience was promising. TiVo handled recording ER and
Without a Trace simultaneously and flawlessly, aware that ER would
start 2 minutes early (something that from experience I
automatically do when I set my recorder; but it is encouraging that
the robot programmer is as good at its job as I am.) Not that I
necessarily plan to watch these re-runs; but as a test, the device
passed with flying colors!
And now I'll really be able to say goodbye and good riddance to the
cable tv company and their lousy local channels analog signal
(though they still have my internet broadband business, so I won't
cry for Comcast).
Oh, yeah, I just noticed out of the corner of my eye that Adrien
Brody is being interviewed (with the sound on mute) on Leno while
I've been writing this. I was thinking, too bad, I'd have liked to
have seen the interview...when I realized that using the 30 minute
live buffer all I have to do is go to the TiVo remote and back up 15
minutes and I can watch the Brody interview in replay mode. Now
that's something entirely novel and unique to TiVo. Gotta love it.
--Ken Rudolph
xym...@suds.com
Fenton) wrote:
>But if you're the type who likes to graze channel by channel,
>you'll hate TiVo.
That's me. My sweetie, on the other hand, is more willing to record
stuff, and we've talked about putting a second TV next to the big one
in the living room so I can watch my various news, sports, animal, and
history/biography documentary shows and she can watch her reality
(barf!) shows and movies while we sit squeezed tightly together in the
big comfy chair with ottowoman. Has anyone else done such a TV setup?
Should we place the TVs side by side, or one on top of the other?
Katie, such a major decision
Katie Schmitz Rochester, New York, USA
klschmitz Uppercase2 frontiernet.net
Still into xymergy in spirit, if not action
John Whiteside
<ke...@comcast.net> wrote:
> I guess I'll have to see how reliable it is in the long run; but
> today's experience was promising. TiVo handled recording ER and
> Without a Trace simultaneously and flawlessly, aware that ER would
> start 2 minutes early (something that from experience I
> automatically do when I set my recorder; but it is encouraging that
> the robot programmer is as good at its job as I am.) Not that I
> necessarily plan to watch these re-runs; but as a test, the device
> passed with flying colors!
I have the occasional issue with it stopping a little too soon or
starting a little too late (a little being 30-60 seconds). There are a
couple of "season passes" that I have set to acccomodate for this. It's
rare though.
Scott Safier
> Saffy, I don't even *have* a cell phone.
We didn't either, until we left Champ's parents' house and his father
died of a sudden heart attack while we were within 50 miles of the
house. They had to wait 8 hours to reach us so we could turn around
and go back.
Scott Safier
Did you put Uranus on your phone?
David W. Fenton
<110920032005399364%logan_SKIPTHIS_john@mac_THISTOO_.com>:
TiVo is far easier than programming a VCR.
But there might be a conceptual hurdle to get over for most people,
who can't understand what the benefits of having something easily
programmable might be.
And I also think TiVo shoots itself in the foot by advertising
features that aren't all that useful -- pausing live TV is
something an experienced TiVo user never does simply because they
never watch live TV in the first place! Even with programs that I
want to watch ASAP, I wait until 22 minutes after an hour-long
program has begun before watching so I can skip through the
commercials and finish at the same time as the live broadcast.
The instant replay feature is one that is highly underrated, too --
I always find myself wishing I had it while listening to the radio.
David W. Fenton
>I guess I'll have to see how reliable it is in the long run; but
>today's experience was promising. TiVo handled recording ER and
>Without a Trace simultaneously and flawlessly, aware that ER would
>start 2 minutes early (something that from experience I
>automatically do when I set my recorder; but it is encouraging
>that the robot programmer is as good at its job as I am.) . . .
Your TiVo is at the mercy of the quality of the reporting of the
programmers. For instance, I simply won't record from certain
channels because their listings are uniformly inaccurate, with
programs always beginning and ending late. WLIW, the Long Island
PBS affiliate is the worst -- I've twice recorded Death in Venice
from them, and both times, the listing ended long before the movie,
in one case 15 minutes short of the end, and in the other well over
30 minutes short of it! The second time I recorded it I happened to
be there and was able to catch the ending via the live recording
because the TiVo stayed on Channel 25 after it stopped recording.
Queer as Folk is one that's problematic, too. If the listing is for
an hour, you'll get it all, if it's for 45 minutes, you may not. So
I always set up my QaF Season Pass to record 10 minutes long.
Interestingly, the 2nd and 3rd broadcasts tend to have accurate
listings, so you may want to record those instead of the 1st
broadcast (that also may be convenient if you are following
whatever HBO is putting on at 10pm Sunday these days, or when QaF
comes back on).
[]
>Oh, yeah, I just noticed out of the corner of my eye that Adrien
>Brody is being interviewed (with the sound on mute) on Leno while
>I've been writing this. I was thinking, too bad, I'd have liked
>to have seen the interview...when I realized that using the 30
>minute live buffer all I have to do is go to the TiVo remote and
>back up 15 minutes and I can watch the Brody interview in replay
>mode. Now that's something entirely novel and unique to TiVo.
>Gotta love it.
And something that you'll increasingly not use at all, since you
won't be watching live TV any more.
One thing I do is record the 6pm & 11pm local news (which in NYC is
listed as two broadcasts of the same program) and the 6:30pm
national news, and set the Season Pass to keep only the last
recording. The result is that anytime I come home I have the latest
national/local newscast. If I want breaking news I can easily watch
live TV on CNN or NY1, but I find that I hardly ever do that.
Clay Colwell
> Clay Colwell wrote:
> > If I find a Snuggle Bear, dipped in guacamole and singing "Tomorrow",
> > on my doorstep, I know who to kill.
>
> MissKinley would never ruin good guacamole with a Snuggle Bear.
Parsing error -- mutually-exclusive tokens "good" and "guacamole"
are adjacent.
David W. Fenton
And the error is usually a result of the published schedules not
matching what the stations actually do.
I won't record from TNT, for instance, because of this very thing.
The commercials are bad enough, but they tend to run over about 3-5
minutes. Given both those problems, I just don't bother. It's not a
terrible loss as there's hardly ever anything of interest to me on
TNT.
David Horne
> I won't record from TNT, for instance, because of this very thing.
> The commercials are bad enough, but they tend to run over about 3-5
> minutes. Given both those problems, I just don't bother. It's not a
> terrible loss as there's hardly ever anything of interest to me on
> TNT.
On UK TV, BBC and ITV are in some silly game with each other, where they
start their programmes 1 minute early, or one minute late, so it screws
people around who want to watch programmes on different channels which
are scheduled to follow each other. They've been doing it with the soaps
a lot- so Eastenders on BBC1 spills over into The Bill on ITV-
Coronation Street into Eastenders and so on. If you use VCR plus codes
to tape them, it gets annoying.
David
--
David Horne- www.davidhorne.co.uk
davidhorne (at) davidhorne (dot) co (dot) uk
Scott Safier
> TiVo is far easier than programming a VCR.
>
Our local ACLU chapter has a project looking at corporate privacy
policies. Things like what information is collected, who do they make
it available to, how hard is it for the government to get (e.g. TIA),
etc. TiVo came up. Basically, this is a service where the company
collects information on your viewing habits in a central database.
The company uses this information to make "suggestions" to you in much
the same way Amazon suggests books that you might like.
Just something to think about.
David W. Fenton
<slrnbm3o97...@pong.telerama.com>:
>David W. Fenton:
>> TiVo is far easier than programming a VCR.
>
>Our local ACLU chapter has a project looking at corporate privacy
>policies. Things like what information is collected, who do they
>make it available to, how hard is it for the government to get
>(e.g. TIA), etc. TiVo came up. Basically, this is a service
>where the company collects information on your viewing habits in a
>central database. The company uses this information to make
>"suggestions" to you in much the same way Amazon suggests books
>that you might like.
>
>Just something to think about.
You've described it wrong.
The suggestions are based on data stored on your TiVo, not based on
anything in the TiVo corporate database.
TiVo does not collect data on individual subscribers. It just
collects information on how many people recorded what program. It
also has some kinds of data about which ads get watched or
fast-forwarded through, but it's again not connected to individual
subscribers.
These are pretty important distinctions, and you would be wise,
Scott, to be more careful about how you word these things.
David W. Fenton
<qk8youo...@skuld.astro.su.se>:
>In article <93F468137df...@24.168.128.74>,
>dXXXf...@bway.net (David W. Fenton) wrote:
>> The instant replay feature is one that is highly underrated, too
>> -- I always find myself wishing I had it while listening to the
>> radio.
>
>Has anybody invented RaVo yet then?
Well, if you get radio on your cable/satellite and run it through
your TiVo you'd get the same effect.
>Robert, interested. (Actually, they probably won't. I notice the
> effect in Stockholm - you can't listen to radio on
> underground trains, but mobile phones work just dandy.
> Discrimination, I tell you.)
I don't know about what features the satellite radio services might
offer.
Ken Rudolph
> []
>
>
>>Oh, yeah, I just noticed out of the corner of my eye that Adrien
>>Brody is being interviewed (with the sound on mute) on Leno while
>>I've been writing this. I was thinking, too bad, I'd have liked
>>to have seen the interview...when I realized that using the 30
>>minute live buffer all I have to do is go to the TiVo remote and
>>back up 15 minutes and I can watch the Brody interview in replay
>>mode. Now that's something entirely novel and unique to TiVo.
>>Gotta love it.
>
>
> And something that you'll increasingly not use at all, since you
> won't be watching live TV any more.
Um, David, I'm not you.
--Ken Rudolph
Scott Safier
> sc...@pink-triangle.NO.org.SPAM (Scott Safier) wrote in
><slrnbm3o97...@pong.telerama.com>:
>
>>David W. Fenton:
>>> TiVo is far easier than programming a VCR.
>>
>>Our local ACLU chapter has a project looking at corporate privacy
>>policies. Things like what information is collected, who do they
>>make it available to, how hard is it for the government to get
>>(e.g. TIA), etc. TiVo came up. Basically, this is a service
>>where the company collects information on your viewing habits in a
>>central database. The company uses this information to make
>>"suggestions" to you in much the same way Amazon suggests books
>>that you might like.
>>
>>Just something to think about.
>
> You've described it wrong.
It was described to me wrong, sorry.
> The suggestions are based on data stored on your TiVo, not based on
> anything in the TiVo corporate database.
Not necessarily. The privacy policy states that certain types of view
choices require them to collect personal view information. Also,
people may opt-in and and allow the collection of such information.
> TiVo does not collect data on individual subscribers. It just
> collects information on how many people recorded what program. It
> also has some kinds of data about which ads get watched or
> fast-forwarded through, but it's again not connected to individual
> subscribers.
Of course, part of TIA is tease out individuals from aggregate,
anonymous data.
Jed Davis
So the 'M' doesn't stand for "Millennium", then?
sweetly and innocently,
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Robert S. Coren
David W. Fenton <dXXXf...@bway.net> wrote:
>And I also think TiVo shoots itself in the foot by advertising
>features that aren't all that useful -- pausing live TV is
>something an experienced TiVo user never does simply because they
>never watch live TV in the first place! Even with programs that I
>want to watch ASAP, I wait until 22 minutes after an hour-long
>program has begun before watching so I can skip through the
>commercials and finish at the same time as the live broadcast.
Of course, you don't watch sporting events, for which the optimal
modes might be a little different.
(We don't have TiVo [yet!], so I don't actually know how useful this
feature would be, but it looks like it might have possibilities.]
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Frank McQuarry
Jed Davis wrote:
>
> Frank McQuarry <fmcq...@earthlink.net> writes:
>
> > Scott Safier wrote:
> >> Er, you mean you didn't download the development kit to write apps for
> >> your cell phone? ::boggle
> >
> > I did! I did! J2ME Wireless Toolkit.
>
> So the 'M' doesn't stand for "Millennium", then?
I'm not really sure. I thought it might be "Mobile" for some reason.
Frank McQuarry
Scott Safier wrote:
>
> Frank McQuarry:
> > Scott Safier wrote:
> >> Er, you mean you didn't download the development kit to write apps for
> >> your cell phone? ::boggle
> >
> > I did! I did! J2ME Wireless Toolkit.
>
> Did you put Uranus on your phone?
My phone ::twirled:: around Uranus.
John Whiteside
<dXXXf...@bway.net> wrote:
> TiVo is far easier than programming a VCR.
>
> But there might be a conceptual hurdle to get over for most people,
> who can't understand what the benefits of having something easily
> programmable might be.
Exactly.
John Whiteside
<ke...@comcast.net> wrote:
> > And something that you'll increasingly not use at all, since you
> > won't be watching live TV any more.
>
> Um, David, I'm not you.
But he's probably right. Even if you don't think this will happen, once
you get used to it, you may find that you'd rather start watching
something on the TiVo 5 minutes after it started than watch it live. I
didn't expect this but that's exactly what I do now.
Ken Rudolph
Well maybe; but I'm not you, either, John. Here's an example. I'm
watching the Dodger game with the bases loaded, Dodgers up 3-0.
San Diego changes pitchers, and rather than watch the commercial I
flip over to the 2nd live show (which was set to CNBC) and see that
Wall Street Week is starting. I get involved with that for a half
hour, forget the baseball game, then when WWW is over I idly click
back to the baseball game and see that the score is now 5-0. I ask
myself: how did they score? I fast rewind back a half hour and
watch the errors which led to the two runs. Then, when I miss a
spectacular catch which looks like the player might have trapped the
ball, I click on the 8 second rewind button and watch it again, this
time in slowmo, and sure enough it was a catch; then I click back to
real time live action and the score is still 5-0.
I could see doing this all the time the way I experience tv. Sure
it's a novelty, but a useful one *for me*; and not one that I'd have
anticipated before actually experiencing TiVo. It brings a whole new
dimension to the concept of time shifting.
I'm also quite pleased that now I actually can listen to shows that
are in Dolby 5.1 using the optical digital audio output from the
TiVo. And even more amazing, I can *record* them in Dolby, which
was impossible with any of my VHS recorders. That's a perq of the
system I hadn't even thought of. Of course, until they come up with
a hack which enables these TiVo recordings to be dubbed off to DVD,
there is no permanent storage method I can utilize which includes
Dolby.
I promise, no more TiVo stories. Any moment I'll be jaded enough to
lose my initial enthusiasm; and anyway, everybody is undoubtedly
bored by the subject by now.
--Ken Rudolph
John Whiteside
<ke...@comcast.net> wrote:
> Well maybe; but I'm not you, either, John. Here's an example...
Ken, I'm not telling you that you WILL be assimilated into the Tivo way
of life. Just mentioning that I (like David) was surprised that it
changed the way I watch things in ways that I would not have
anticipated. Which seems to be a common experience among people who get
them. So, you may be surprised. Or not.
Either way - enjoy it!
Jed Davis
"Micro", it seems. In any case, my earlier post was not meant
especially seriously.
Frank McQuarry
Jed Davis wrote:
>
> Frank McQuarry <fmcq...@earthlink.net> writes:
>
> > Jed Davis wrote:
> >>
> >> Frank McQuarry <fmcq...@earthlink.net> writes:
> >>
> >> > Scott Safier wrote:
> >> >> Er, you mean you didn't download the development kit to write apps for
> >> >> your cell phone? ::boggle
> >> >
> >> > I did! I did! J2ME Wireless Toolkit.
> >>
> >> So the 'M' doesn't stand for "Millennium", then?
> >
> > I'm not really sure. I thought it might be "Mobile" for some reason.
>
> "Micro", it seems. In any case, my earlier post was not meant
> especially seriously.
<slaps forehead>
Clay Colwell
Java 2 Micro Edition. My work group helped define part of the
specification.
Mike McKinley
> I promise, no more TiVo stories. Any moment I'll be jaded enough to
> lose my initial enthusiasm; and anyway, everybody is undoubtedly bored
> by the subject by now.
Oh! Daddy, bear! I love TiVo stories!
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("...what can we women know, save philosophies of the kitchen? It was well put by Lupercio Leonardo that one can philosophize quite well while preparing supper. I often say, when I make these little observations, "Had Aristotle cooked, he would have written a great deal more.")
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Scott Safier
that is like SOOOO geeky.
Clay Colwell
> Clay Colwell:
> > Frank McQuarry <fmcq...@earthlink.net> wrote in message news:<3F6246C8...@earthlink.net>...
> >> Jed Davis wrote:
> >> >
> >> > Frank McQuarry <fmcq...@earthlink.net> writes:
> >> >
> >> > > Scott Safier wrote:
> >> > >> Er, you mean you didn't download the development kit to write apps for
> >> > >> your cell phone? ::boggle
> >> > >
> >> > > I did! I did! J2ME Wireless Toolkit.
> >> >
> >> > So the 'M' doesn't stand for "Millennium", then?
> >>
> >> I'm not really sure. I thought it might be "Mobile" for some reason.
> >
> > Java 2 Micro Edition. My work group helped define part of the
> > specification.
>
> that is like SOOOO geeky.
Ergo my chagrin at my poor Geek Score.
Scott Safier
How many programs have you written for you cell phone?
Edgar J. Lawrence
> Frank McQuarry:
> >
> >
> > Scott Safier wrote:
> >>
> >> cell phone?
> >
> > In retaliation, you could replace it with the Snuggle Bear Giggle.
>
> Retaliation? I'm the one trying to get Champ to do it. HE'S
> RESISTING -- something about the song from The Exorcist instead
> (techno remix, of course)
[snip]
Eh? Do you mean the non-vocal music that was
extracted from _Tubular Bells_?
Edgar
Edgar J. Lawrence
[snip]
> Sweat dreams do I decant
> Who needs anti-perspirant?
> A river that runs
> Down their shapely buns
> Hot 'n' sweaty, just how I like it
>
> Michael, working up a sweat
You and Alice Cooper?
Dante's famed inferno
Was a trip to hell and back
But you and a bottle in a cheap hotel
Screams pyromaniac
Bandages came off today
Really feeling sick
The hardest part's explainin'
All those blisters on my - nose!
Workin' up a sweat
Workin' up a sweat
I've been playing all night long
Time I was gettin' home
But I've got no place to get
Edgar
Scott Safier
techno remix tubular bells. yes.
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Clay Colwell
> Clay Colwell:
> > Scott Safier <sc...@pink-triangle.NO.org.SPAM> wrote in message news:<slrnbmbioa...@pong.telerama.com>...
> >> Clay Colwell:
> >> > Frank McQuarry <fmcq...@earthlink.net> wrote in message news:<3F6246C8...@earthlink.net>...
> >> >> Jed Davis wrote:
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Frank McQuarry <fmcq...@earthlink.net> writes:
> >> >> >
> >> >> > > Scott Safier wrote:
> >> >> > >> Er, you mean you didn't download the development kit to write apps for
> >> >> > >> your cell phone? ::boggle
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > > I did! I did! J2ME Wireless Toolkit.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > So the 'M' doesn't stand for "Millennium", then?
> >> >>
> >> >> I'm not really sure. I thought it might be "Mobile" for some reason.
> >> >
> >> > Java 2 Micro Edition. My work group helped define part of the
> >> > specification.
> >>
> >> that is like SOOOO geeky.
> >
> > Ergo my chagrin at my poor Geek Score.
>
> How many programs have you written for you cell phone?
Depends on how you define it. I've not written any applications,
but I've written loads of testcases for API implementation veri-
fication, outside of the TCK testsuites Sun provides.
Scott Safier
Real geeks never test their software. No wonder you scored so low.
Real geeks know it will work without testing. Yeesh!
--
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Michael Sarris
> Frank McQuarry <fmcq...@earthlink.net> wrote in message news:<3F60F4C4...@earthlink.net>...
>
>>Clay Colwell wrote:
>
>
>>>If I find a Snuggle Bear, dipped in guacamole and singing "Tomorrow",
>>>on my doorstep, I know who to kill.
>>
>>MissKinley would never ruin good guacamole with a Snuggle Bear.
>
>
> Parsing error -- mutually-exclusive tokens "good" and "guacamole"
> are adjacent.
Okay, I would have agreed with you a couple of months ago.
I personally would have rated guacamole "ehhhh", neither
hating it nor finding any reason besides politeness to
eat it.
But then I ordered a turkey burger with swiss cheese and
guacamole. Wow! It was really tasty. Who knew?
But I still don't think I care for it on chips.
Michael, who found a cure for his grapefruitphobia, too
--
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"The grapefruit is winning
Seems I keep getting this story twisted"
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Edgar J. Lawrence
> Frank McQuarry <fmcq...@earthlink.net> wrote in message news:<3F60F4C4...@earthlink.net>...
> > Clay Colwell wrote:
>
> > > If I find a Snuggle Bear, dipped in guacamole and singing "Tomorrow",
> > > on my doorstep, I know who to kill.
> >
> > MissKinley would never ruin good guacamole with a Snuggle Bear.
>
> Parsing error -- mutually-exclusive tokens "good" and "guacamole"
> are adjacent.
Is the problem guacamole specifically, or avocados
in general? How about a nice cold avocado soup made
with avocado, sour cream, chicken broth, a little lemon
juice, and a little chipotle powder?
Edgar
Frank McQuarry
Sounds delicious. Post the recipe!
Mike McKinley
> Clay Colwell wrote:
>
>> Frank McQuarry <fmcq...@earthlink.net> wrote in message
>> news:<3F60F4C4...@earthlink.net>...
>> Clay Colwell wrote:
>> If I find a Snuggle Bear, dipped in guacamole and singing "Tomorrow",
>>
>>>> on my doorstep, I know who to kill.
>>>
>>> MissKinley would never ruin good guacamole with a Snuggle Bear.
>>
>> Parsing error -- mutually-exclusive tokens "good" and "guacamole"
>> are adjacent.
>
> Okay, I would have agreed with you a couple of months ago.
> I personally would have rated guacamole "ehhhh", neither
> hating it nor finding any reason besides politeness to
> eat it.
> But then I ordered a turkey burger with swiss cheese and
> guacamole. Wow! It was really tasty. Who knew?
> But I still don't think I care for it on chips.
>
There are some people beyond comprehension.
Oh, and I make guacamole with cilantro.
Ellen Evans
Mike McKinley <mpmck...@mail.utexas.edu> wrote:
[]
> There are some people beyond comprehension.
> Oh, and I make guacamole with cilantro.
Most people do. Now *that's* beyond comprehension.
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Clay Colwell
> er...@io.com (Clay Colwell) wrote in message news:<f415da82.03091...@posting.google.com>...
> > Frank McQuarry <fmcq...@earthlink.net> wrote in message news:<3F60F4C4...@earthlink.net>...
> > > Clay Colwell wrote:
>
> > > > If I find a Snuggle Bear, dipped in guacamole and singing "Tomorrow",
> > > > on my doorstep, I know who to kill.
> > >
> > > MissKinley would never ruin good guacamole with a Snuggle Bear.
> >
> > Parsing error -- mutually-exclusive tokens "good" and "guacamole"
> > are adjacent.
>
> Is the problem guacamole specifically, or avocados
> in general?
Yes.
Edgar J. Lawrence
> "Edgar J. Lawrence" wrote:
[snip]
> > How about a nice cold avocado soup made
> > with avocado, sour cream, chicken broth, a little lemon
> > juice, and a little chipotle powder?
>
> Sounds delicious. Post the recipe!
2 med ripe CA avocados (or 3 small ones)
2 cups sour cream
2 tsp lemon juice
1/2 tsp dried ground chipotle
2 cups chicken broth
Peel avocados, remove pits, and slice. Put slices
into a blender with sour cream, and lemon juice.
Start the blending process on lowest speed. When
first 3 ingredients have started to blend, add
chipotle and continue blending for a little bit.
Add the chicken broth, a little at a time,
blending some more after each addition. When all
broth has been added, blend until all ingredients
are thoroughly blended. Pour into individual
bowls or one large bowl and chill in the
refrigerator for at least two hours. Serves 6.
Our blender barely held everything, so you have
to be careful not to overload the blender. I did
the whole process on the lowest speed (to avoid
splashouts). You could use some other dried ground
chile or Tabasco Sauce, if desired. I don't
remember where I obtained this recipe, but I see
that the original liquid was water, which I
changed to chicken broth. I used a commercial,
fat-free chicken broth (Pacific). Homemade
chicken stock/broth would be too "chickeny" for
this soup, IMO. If the amount of sour cream
seems like a lot, I suppose one could try the
soup with 1 1/2 cups sour cream.
Edgar
Frank McQuarry
"Edgar J. Lawrence" wrote:
> [recipe]
Thanks!
Edgar J. Lawrence
> "Edgar J. Lawrence" wrote:
> > [recipe]
>
> Thanks!
On considering the matter, I wouldn't
use Tabasco sauce. I mentioned it because
the original recipe used it. If one wishes
to use something other than dried, ground
chile, then I would recommend something such
as El Yucateco green habanero sauce, which
is less acidic than Tabasco. I'd start with
1/4 tsp of the habanero sauce (for the full
recipe--1/8 tsp if halving the recipe).
One could, of course use more if a really
zippy soup is desired.
Edgar