Odessa, Texas
Mick Washbrook
a flying squirrel
> Can anybody give me any idea as to what Odessa, Texas is like?
Relax, Mick. I am certain you will be able to get plenty of
Kraft Singles there.
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boy brent
>Can anybody give me any idea as to what Odessa, Texas is like?
>Thanks.
i'll give you a hint. The locals call it Slowdeatha.
In the Exxon Corporation it used to be a watchword that if you
fucked up, they fired you, but if you __really__ fucked up,
they sent you to Odessa.
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Tom Barrett
>Can anybody give me any idea as to what Odessa, Texas is like?
In the middle of no where...
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Chip Graham
>In article <25m8ql$3...@autodesk.autodesk.com> mi...@autodesk.com (Mick Washbrook) writes:
>>Can anybody give me any idea as to what Odessa, Texas is like?
>
is Midland). The only thing Odessa has going for it is that it is much
looser than Midland, they do have a couple of bars and some porno places
if you are into that. The bars do get some pretty hot blue-collar types
and a few white collar boys. Lots of girls and drag queens, though.
The city itself is pretty ho-hum, just another oil town gone broke.
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Jess Anderson
Chip Graham <cgr...@convex.com> wrote:
>The bars do get some pretty hot blue-collar types
>and a few white collar boys. Lots of girls and drag queens, though.
^^^^^ ^^^^^^^^^^^ ^^^^^^
^^^^^^
Hotsie-totsie, another "real man" type, just what we need.
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Chip Graham
>
>>The bars do get some pretty hot blue-collar types
>>and a few white collar boys. Lots of girls and drag queens, though.
> ^^^^^ ^^^^^^^^^^^ ^^^^^^
> ^^^^^^
>Hotsie-totsie, another "real man" type, just what we need.
>
Ok, I like men. If I wanted to be around girls/women/drag queens, I
would have been straight. 'nough said.
William A. Parsons
: In article <1993Aug30.1...@convex.com>,
: Chip Graham <cgr...@convex.com> wrote:
:
: >The bars do get some pretty hot blue-collar types
: >and a few white collar boys. Lots of girls and drag queens, though.
: ^^^^^ ^^^^^^^^^^^ ^^^^^^
: ^^^^^^
: Hotsie-totsie, another "real man" type, just what we need.
Oh Jess, admit it. You just *hate* the competition!
-Will (who is picturing Jess from his college days they
shared together sitting on the UW-Madison Memorial Union
Terrace, leaning back in his chair with his Virginia Slims
cigarette hanging from his lips)
P.S. Jess have you given up that nasty habit yet?
Joe Munsey
All I know is, when you are there, you can stand on your toes and see for
two days.
Joe
David Fox
Washbrook) wrote:
>
>
> Can anybody give me any idea as to what Odessa, Texas is like?
> Thanks.
And, those of you who are responding to this question, be sure to include
information on whether or not Odessa has branches of Furr's or Luby's; I
have it on good authority that these two cafeteria chains are what Texan's
consider fine dining.
David
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University of Pennsylvania / College of General Studies
df...@mail.sas.upenn.edu
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randy j futor
>
> Can anybody give me any idea as to what Odessa, Texas is like?
Basin.
Rent the movie 'Waltz Across Texas'; it'll give you a fair idea of what
they do there & what the ( ahem ) scenery is like. Don't listen to Mary
Kay Place's character, however, when she tries to explain how to pronounce
the phrase "oil business"! The first vowel 'maraphthong' ( as I call it )
can only be successfully rendered by natives & there is *no* 'd'-sound in
the second word, 'binniss'.
If you have more specific questions, send me mail. I grew up 90 miles
northwest of Odessa in a little oilfield shithole called Hobbs.
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Jess Anderson
In article <1993Aug30.1...@convex.com>
cgr...@convex.com (Chip Graham) writes:
>In article <25sur4$l...@news.doit.wisc.edu>
ande...@macc.wisc.edu (Jess Anderson) writes:
>>>The bars do get some pretty hot blue-collar types
>>>and a few white collar boys. Lots of girls and drag queens, though.
>> ^^^^^ ^^^^^^^^^^^ ^^^^^^
>> ^^^^^^
>>Hotsie-totsie, another "real man" type, just what we need.
>Ok, I like men. If I wanted to be around girls/women/drag
>queens, I would have been straight. 'nough said.
Pity. Sounds to me like you *are* straight, and not the
nice kind, either.
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Jack Hamilton
>In article <25sur4$l...@news.doit.wisc.edu> ande...@macc.wisc.edu (Jess Anderson) writes:
>>
>>>The bars do get some pretty hot blue-collar types
>>>and a few white collar boys. Lots of girls and drag queens, though.
>> ^^^^^ ^^^^^^^^^^^ ^^^^^^
>> ^^^^^^
>>Hotsie-totsie, another "real man" type, just what we need.
>
>Ok, I like men. If I wanted to be around girls/women/drag queens, I
>would have been straight. 'nough said.
If you were straight, you'd want to be around drag queens??
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Chip Graham
>>
>>Ok, I like men. If I wanted to be around girls/women/drag queens, I
>>would have been straight. 'nough said.
>
>If you were straight, you'd want to be around drag queens??
>
female - real or fake. That's all! When I go out, I go out to
be around men. I like men. That's what I do.
Women are cool, but I don't do them! So why would I want to
pick up a drag queen? I like men who like being men.
a flying squirrel
> I like men who like being men.
Wrong. You like men who behave within a confined subset of all
possible expressions of manhood. Drag queens are still very
much "being men", whether you like it or not.
Jack Hamilton
>In article <jfhCCL...@netcom.com> j...@netcom.com (Jack Hamilton) writes:
>>>
>>>Ok, I like men. If I wanted to be around girls/women/drag queens, I
>>>would have been straight. 'nough said.
>>
>>If you were straight, you'd want to be around drag queens??
>>
>Well, my foob! The idea was I don't go to the bars to find a
>female - real or fake. That's all! When I go out, I go out to
>be around men. I like men. That's what I do.
>
>Women are cool, but I don't do them! So why would I want to
>pick up a drag queen? I like men who like being men.
What makes you think drag queens don't enjoy being men? The ones I know
do. Perhaps you're confusing drag queens with transsexuals.
Or perhaps you meant "I like men who dress and behave the way I think men
should dress and behave." You're certainly using a definition of "man"
that includes more than just gender. Does it help if they wear cowboy hats?
Do you consider your position to be different from that of George Madison,
who (supposedly, I don't know) likes his men to smoke cigars and be
covered with motor oil and hair and other "manly" things?
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Cop to drag queen: You're under arrest for impersonating a woman!
Drag queen to cop: You know a woman who looks like *me*???
(Robert Patrick, in Street Theatre)
john whiteside
> >Well, my foob! The idea was I don't go to the bars to find a
> >female - real or fake. That's all! When I go out, I go out to
> >be around men. I like men. That's what I do.
> >
> >Women are cool, but I don't do them! So why would I want to
> >pick up a drag queen? I like men who like being men.
Honey, drag queen are not women. The difference is this: Drag queens
have dicks. Women don't. It's that simple!
adolphson
cgr...@convex.com (Chip Graham) writes:
> Women are cool, but I don't do them! So why would I want to
> pick up a drag queen? I like men who like being men.
Tovah, help me out here. How does it go again?
I'd rather be thought a drag queen by a moron
than a moron by a drag queen.
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George Dalton Madison
>Do you consider your position to be different from that of George Madison,
>who (supposedly, I don't know) likes his men to smoke cigars and be
>covered with motor oil and hair and other "manly" things?
If you don't know, why are you dragging *me* into this?
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[> It's a BEAR thing -- you wouldn't understand. <|> fu...@cup.portal.com <]
Jack Hamilton
>In article <1993Aug31....@convex.com>
>cgr...@convex.com (Chip Graham) writes:
>
>> Women are cool, but I don't do them! So why would I want to
>> pick up a drag queen? I like men who like being men.
>
>Tovah, help me out here. How does it go again?
>I'd rather be thought a drag queen by a moron
>than a moron by a drag queen.
I think it was "I'd rather have a bigot think I'm a lesbian than have a
lesbian think I'm a bigot."
"Bigot" is probably closer to the right word than "moron" anyway,
although both apply in this case - bigot for his attitude and moron for
failure to think through what he was saying.
George Dalton Madison
>"Bigot" is probably closer to the right word than "moron" anyway,
>although both apply in this case - bigot for his attitude and moron for
>failure to think through what he was saying.
So what *IS* the Politically Correct, sensitive and inoffensive
way of expressing the idea he (admittedly crudely) put forth?
Or are we going to claim that what turns a person on is
irrelevant to who they "should" be having sex/a relationship
with?
David Stevenson
>Jack Hamilton writes:
>>Do you consider your position to be different from that of George Madison,
>>who (supposedly, I don't know) likes his men to smoke cigars and be
> ^!^!^!^!^!^!^!^!^!^!^!^!
>>covered with motor oil and hair and other "manly" things?
>
>If you don't know, why are you dragging *me* into this?
>
Jess Anderson
George Dalton Madison <Fu...@cup.portal.com> wrote:
>Jack Hamilton writes:
>>"Bigot" is probably closer to the right word than "moron" anyway,
>>although both apply in this case - bigot for his attitude and moron for
>>failure to think through what he was saying.
>So what *IS* the Politically Correct, sensitive and inoffensive
>way of expressing the idea he (admittedly crudely) put forth?
>Or are we going to claim that what turns a person on is
>irrelevant to who they "should" be having sex/a relationship
>with?
>[> George D. Madison | NBCS: B8f+t+w-e+s+k+a!cv | Just say NO to razors! <]
>[> It's a BEAR thing -- you wouldn't understand. <|> fu...@cup.portal.com <]
To get a handle on answering your own question, consider how
and why you'd be offended if I answered:
It's an unBEAR thing -- you wouldn't understand.
A person can easily say what he or she likes (for whatever
kind of relating) without putting down anyone who happens
not to be in that set.
I'm a bit distressed to see you waving the "politically
correct" canard in anyone's face too.
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Tim Wilson
Madison) writes:
So what *IS* the Politically Correct, sensitive and inoffensive
way of expressing the idea he (admittedly crudely) put forth?
He said "girls and drag queens, though" or something to that effect.
If "though" had been "too," no one woulda complained. If he wanted to
add an editorial comment about his preferences in other men, he coulda
done so in a separate sentence than one purporting to give information
about queer happenings in Odessa.
Or are we going to claim that what turns a person on is
irrelevant to who they "should" be having sex/a relationship
with?
People's tastes are their tastes. Talking about sexual tastes in
public can be tacky, especially when done in a snooty way that
discounts the humanity of those who don't fall into the prefered
classes. I'd rather hear someone talk about what turns them on, not
those icky others that turn them off.
People's tastes also evolve. Sometimes if we'd just take off our
fuggin' stylistic -- often self-constructed -- blinders, we'd discover
there're a lot more "attractive" others out there than we might
initially think.
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Schwark R.
>
>Honey, drag queen are not women. The difference is this: Drag queens
>have dicks. Women don't. It's that simple!
I don't know. I know some women with REALLY BIG ONES.
Ry
Deborah Swayne
|> way of expressing the idea he (admittedly crudely) put forth?
|>
|> Or are we going to claim that what turns a person on is
|> irrelevant to who they "should" be having sex/a relationship
|> with?
He didn't seem to be talking about who he wanted to have sex
or a relationship with. He seemed to be talking about who he
was willing to be in the same room with.
Debby
d...@bellcore.com
Jack Hamilton
>Jack Hamilton writes:
>>Do you consider your position to be different from that of George Madison,
>>who (supposedly, I don't know) likes his men to smoke cigars and be
> ^!^!^!^!^!^!^!^!^!^!^!^!
>>covered with motor oil and hair and other "manly" things?
>
>If you don't know, why are you dragging *me* into this?
Because you're a well-known example of someone with decided tastes.
As for the "supposedly", David was right - how would I know on the
Internet? I don't have first hand or even second hand knowledge of what
you really like/do.
Perhaps I should call your would-be flame Arne and ask for the results of
his research.
Jake Coughlin
i know some men with *BIG* *RED* *PUMPS*!
[in SF last week, i met a woman with a beard.
i envy her -- i've just started a goatee, and it's
taking FOREVER to grow in. i think i need a
testosterone injection.]
adolphson
j...@netcom.com (Jack Hamilton) writes:
> Fu...@cup.portal.com (George Dalton Madison) wrote:
> >If you don't know, why are you dragging *me* into this?
> Because you're a well-known example of someone with decided tastes.
>
> As for the "supposedly", David was right - how would I know on the
> Internet? I don't have first hand or even second hand knowledge of what
> you really like/do.
>
> Perhaps I should call your would-be flame Arne and ask for the results of
> his research.
I'm sworn to secrecy, so all I can tell you is that it
involves hairspray, styling mousse, and eyelash curlers.
--
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adol...@mizar.usc.edu with all those town suits and hostess pajamas?"
ar...@ursa-major.spdcc.com -- Joan Crawford
William A. Parsons
: >Do you consider your position to be different from that of George Madison,
: >who (supposedly, I don't know) likes his men to smoke cigars and be
: ^!^!^!^!^!^!^!^!^!^!^!^!
: >covered with motor oil and hair and other "manly" things?
:
: If you don't know, why are you dragging *me* into this?
Oh George, you big ol' bear. You know that you love rough-n-tumble
play just as much as the rest of us!
-Will
William A. Parsons
: >"Bigot" is probably closer to the right word than "moron" anyway,
: >although both apply in this case - bigot for his attitude and moron for
: >failure to think through what he was saying.
:
:
: So what *IS* the Politically Correct, sensitive and inoffensive
: way of expressing the idea he (admittedly crudely) put forth?
:
: Or are we going to claim that what turns a person on is
: irrelevant to who they "should" be having sex/a relationship
: with?
I have long ago decided (OK maybe it was just last week, so sue me)
that Political Correctness has absolutely no place in eroticism
and sexuality. However, outside of personal tastes and attraction, it
plays an important role in social interactions and the treatment
of others with respect.
-Will
(who is really tired of political correctness getting bad press
and of people using that as an excuse to continue treated others
like shit)
Michael Hefner
William A. Parsons <wpa...@emory.edu> wrote:
>I have long ago decided (OK maybe it was just last week, so sue me)
>that Political Correctness has absolutely no place in eroticism
>and sexuality. However, outside of personal tastes and attraction, it
>plays an important role in social interactions and the treatment
>of others with respect.
>
>-Will
>(who is really tired of political correctness getting bad press
>and of people using that as an excuse to continue treated others
>like shit)
I'm just tired of the term "political correctness." It's become so
amorphous that it has little real meaning. For example, are you
referring here to Afrocentrism, multiculturalism, campus speech
codes, gender-neutral language, or what's really just plain old
politeness (ie. trying not to offend people, and apologizing if
you do).
Most of the time I hear someone bring "political correctness" into a
conversation, they want to lump all these things together and
denigrate the whole lot by attacking the more extreme elements,
like speech codes. It's rather like saying that sun-dried tomatoes
are a bad thing because they are pizza ingredients and anchovies are
just awful.
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David Stevenson
For some, being in the same room with, and having sex with,
are the same thing, practically speaking, or in practice.
David Stevenson
>
>I'm sworn to secrecy, so all I can tell you is that it involves
>hairspray,
> styling mousse,
aka motor oil, check
>and eyelash curlers.
for cigar holders, check.
That's three out of three for Jack!
Steve Arrants
No, Ry. Those are **REALLY BIG RED PUMPS**
They're delivered by pods, you know.
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George Dalton Madison
>George Dalton Madison <Fu...@cup.portal.com> wrote:
>>So what *IS* the Politically Correct, sensitive and inoffensive
>>way of expressing the idea he (admittedly crudely) put forth?
>>Or are we going to claim that what turns a person on is
>>irrelevant to who they "should" be having sex/a relationship
>>with?
>
>and why you'd be offended if I answered:
>
> It's an unBEAR thing -- you wouldn't understand.
I wouldn't be offended at all. The answer isn't particularly
relevant to the *question*, but I see no reason for offense --
just as there is no reason for anyone to be offended at the
original version of that phrase from my .sig.
>A person can easily say what he or she likes (for whatever
>kind of relating) without putting down anyone who happens
>not to be in that set.
He said he didn't care for drag queens; I don't see that as
performing character assassinations. Admitted, he bought into
a number of rather noxious stereotypes, but what he got flamed
for seemed to be mainly because of the *idea* he was expressing,
not the *way* he was expressing it.
>I'm a bit distressed to see you waving the "politically
>correct" canard in anyone's face too.
Well, that's how the knee-jerk reaction his posting got struck
me.
-----
George Dalton Madison
>Fu...@cup.portal.com (George Dalton Madison) wrote:
>>Jack Hamilton writes:
>>>Do you consider your position to be different from that of George Madison,
>>>who (supposedly, I don't know) likes his men to smoke cigars and be
>>
>>If you don't know, why are you dragging *me* into this?
>
>Because you're a well-known example of someone with decided tastes.
"Decided" as in "clear and well-defined," I presume.
>As for the "supposedly", David was right - how would I know on the
>Internet? I don't have first hand or even second hand knowledge of what
>you really like/do.
Which is rather my point: I somewhat resent being used as an
example when you haven't the foggiest fucking notion whether it's
an accurate example or not.
>Perhaps I should call your would-be flame Arne and ask for the results of
>his research.
The only way Arne "would-be" my "flame" is if I were to douse him
thoroughly in lighter fluid and toss on a lit match.
Jess Anderson
George Dalton Madison <Fu...@cup.portal.com> wrote:
>The only way Arne "would-be" my "flame" is if I were to douse him
>thoroughly in lighter fluid and toss on a lit match.
That's it. Madison, you're disgusting!
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adolphson
ande...@macc.wisc.edu (Jess Anderson) writes:
> In article <89...@cup.portal.com>,
> George Dalton Madison <Fu...@cup.portal.com> wrote:
> >The only way Arne "would-be" my "flame" is if I were to douse him
> >thoroughly in lighter fluid and toss on a lit match.
> That's it. Madison, you're disgusting!
This is news?
Jack Hamilton
>Which is rather my point: I somewhat resent being used as an
>example when you haven't the foggiest fucking notion whether it's
>an accurate example or not.
I don't know what you *do*, but I know what you've *said*.
If you were telling the truth, it's an accurate example.
Chip Graham
>|> So what *IS* the Politically Correct, sensitive and inoffensive
>|> way of expressing the idea he (admittedly crudely) put forth?
>|>
>|> Or are we going to claim that what turns a person on is
>|> irrelevant to who they "should" be having sex/a relationship
>|> with?
>
>He didn't seem to be talking about who he wanted to have sex
>or a relationship with. He seemed to be talking about who he
>was willing to be in the same room with.
>
Odessa does have a couple of bars. Some blue-collar types, some
white-collar types, some drag queens and some women do go to
the bars. It appears there is something for everyone in Odessa!
Gee, that is better, now isn't it?
But that doesn't change the fact that I like to go out and see
men who look like men. That is my preference and I will not
back down on it. Thank you George for at least allowing me that!
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Mara Chibnik
>It's rather like saying that sun-dried tomatoes are a bad
>thing because they are pizza ingredients and anchovies are just awful.
Quotes file.
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ma...@panix.com Life is too important to be taken seriously.
Mara Chibnik
d...@lestat.bellcore.com (Deborah Swayne) writes:
>>He didn't seem to be talking about who he wanted to have sex
>>or a relationship with. He seemed to be talking about who he
>>was willing to be in the same room with.
stev...@netcom.com (David Stevenson) writes:
>For some, being in the same room with, and having sex with,
>are the same thing, practically speaking, or in practice.
Is it because they're supersluts, *extremely* arousable, or just
really picky about what rooms they enter?
George Dalton Madison
>That's it. Madison, you're disgusting!
Why, *thank* *you*!
David Stevenson
>
>stev...@netcom.com (David Stevenson) writes:
> >For some, being in the same room with, and having sex with,
> >are the same thing, practically speaking, or in practice.
>
>Is it because they're supersluts, *extremely* arousable, or just
>really picky about what rooms they enter?
>
First one has the general physio/psycho/sociological dynamics of orgies,
a topic in and of itself.
Second, with the advent of AIDS (paradoxically?), the notion, definition,
and practice of sex and sexuality has broadened considerably, at least in
public and semi-public areas and enclosures, at least around these parts.
And finally, one does not need to be too picky (just sensible) about what
rooms one enters in gay San Francisco.
Schwark R.
>
>But that doesn't change the fact that I like to go out and see
>men who look like men. That is my preference and I will not
>back down on it. Thank you George for at least allowing me that!
gosh. Witness the howling hordes, trying to take away your manly men,
and replace them with hairdressers who will tie you up and make you
listen to judy garland records while moussing your hair.
Such cruelty. Such evil.
*SNORT*
Ry
Melinda Shore
>In article <263tvg$9...@news.doit.wisc.edu>
>ande...@macc.wisc.edu (Jess Anderson) writes:
>> That's it. Madison, you're disgusting!
>This is news?
Not really, but I don't think it's anything a change of
clothing and a touch of blush wouldn't fix.
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Mike Reaser
|> In article <263ucd$k...@mizar.usc.edu>
|> adol...@mizar.usc.edu (adolphson) writes:
|> >In article <263tvg$9...@news.doit.wisc.edu>
|> >ande...@macc.wisc.edu (Jess Anderson) writes:
|> >> That's it. Madison, you're disgusting!
|> >This is news?
|>
|> Not really, but I don't think it's anything a change of
|> clothing and a touch of blush wouldn't fix.
Uh, Melinda, you forgot the blue-light-special-sized bottle of either
Grease Relief or Dawn.
You need _something_ to get that Castrol out of the pores...
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<<Ducking, or do you prefer another brand, George??? :-) >>
Jack Hamilton
>But that doesn't change the fact that I like to go out and see
>men who look like men. That is my preference and I will not
>back down on it. Thank you George for at least allowing me that!
You still haven't got it.
People weren't objecting to your choice of sex objects. We were objecting to
the way you classify anyone who doesn't fall into your traditional categories
("men who look like men") as not really a man.
Reread what you just wrote.
Tim Pierce
Chip Graham <cgr...@convex.com> wrote:
>The idea was I don't go to the bars to find a
>female - real or fake.
"Real" or "fake?" The ghastly terminology aside, what makes you think
you could tell the difference? Frankly, I doubt you could reliably
distinguish your penis from a dry martini.
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\ / twpi...@unix.amherst.edu / All kids love syslog.
\/ (BITnet: TWPIERCE@AMHERST) /
Tim Pierce
and I were really two *different* people. Then I run across a post
like this one:
In article <CCour...@hawnews.watson.ibm.com>,
Jake Coughlin <ja...@rtp.vnet.ibm.com> wrote:
>i've just started a goatee, and it's
>taking FOREVER to grow in. i think i need a
>testosterone injection.]
There's nothing like a good dose of Usenet to re-enervate your
reality. Hey, Jake! Whaddya think of Albany so far?
Michael Hefner
Sounds fabulous! Can I be next?
--
Mike Hefner ____ "You are a cup that I hold by the cheekbones
UNC-Chapel Hill CS Dept. \ / I pull you close and I drink you up."
Geek Stuff: hef...@cs.unc.edu \/ - Poi dog Pondering
Gay Stuff: hef...@gibbs.oit.unc.edu "Pulling Touch"
Jake Coughlin
twpi...@unix.amherst.edu (Tim Pierce) writes:
>For a while there, I was starting to think that maybe Jake Coughlin
>and I were really two *different* people.
well, i *am* the more fun aspect of our personality,
dashing off to SF for networking conferences, dashing
off to NJ to teach marketers, having hurricane
parties -- you Unix gurus just don't know how to let
your /dev/tty down, suing roots and greping splats
and viing for editifcation (all kids love syslog? are
they a new group?).
>>i've just started a goatee, and it's
>>taking FOREVER to grow in. i think i need a
>>testosterone injection.]
actually, it's taking off -- is it normal to feel the hairs
sprouting out of your chin? is it normal that the rest
of your face should get jealous and start producing
hair by the buckets? [normally, i shave only every 4
or 5 days or so, but now it feels like i'm gonna hafta
shave every couple of days. i'm new to this hair thing.]
someone said i'll have to condition it -- is that true?
>There's nothing like a good dose of Usenet to re-enervate your
>reality.
unix junkies. phsah! i usually go all-star wrestling!
>Hey, Jake! Whaddya think of Albany so far?
not enough twee. (that's t*w*ee, not tee.)
T. David
>Drag queens are still very
>much "being men", whether you like it or not.
Frankly... some of the nicest men that I've known have been drag
queens... I wonder if it is in the genes?
--
__ T. David
\/ (Speaking for three people: Me, Myself, and It)
Mark Pritchard
|>
|> Can anybody give me any idea as to what Odessa, Texas is like?
|> Thanks.
Imagine having your car break down and it needs a week to be repaired.
There are no places to stay except run-down motels run by fundamentalists.
There are no places to eat except fast food franchises like Wendy's. There
are no movies to go to except slasher/kung-fu/tits-and-ass movies. There is
nothing to see except billboards, huge plastic signs that say "Wendy's,"
and large two-year old Cadillacs. Everyone is wearing polyester that is
colored either teal or magenta, with an NRA baseball cap. The first night
as you're walking back to your motel from Wendy's, a car full of bored,
hostile redneck teenagers scream "faggot" at you.
There are six more days to go. It's sort of like that.
Mark Pritchard
Univ. of Texas '78
Jess Anderson
Melinda Shore <sh...@dinah.tc.cornell.edu> wrote:
>And if George is very, very good, I can show him how to
>pick out which gloves to wear in various situations.
>Petroleum product stains are *so* hard to get out of kid.
Washed right off the kids I've gotten it on.
Oh, you mean kid *gloves*; that would get my goat, yes'm.
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J. S. Bibb
>In article <263ucd$k...@mizar.usc.edu> adol...@mizar.usc.edu (adolphson) writes:
>>In article <263tvg$9...@news.doit.wisc.edu>
>>ande...@macc.wisc.edu (Jess Anderson) writes:
>>> That's it. Madison, you're disgusting!
>>This is news?
>
>Not really, but I don't think it's anything a change of
>clothing and a touch of blush wouldn't fix.
Miss Shore! <Southern Drawl just drippin off that spoon>
You would let him in on all of those Southern Charm School (read: Suthun
Chawm Schoool) secrets your Mother (Muthah) paid good money for?
Where is your decorum?
(For the humor impared, JBear is from the same general area of Appalachia
that Mike Reaser, his 4th cousin Mike Reaser, and Melinda Shore are from)
--
JBear One of these days I will put
jb...@netcom.com an interesting quote here.
NBCS: B4/5 s- m g++ w d+c t+ f+ r e+(+?) (If Lyle Alzado, surely me;-)
Melinda Shore
>(For the humor impared, JBear is from the same general area of Appalachia
>that Mike Reaser, his 4th cousin Mike Reaser, and Melinda Shore are from)
I am not, strictly speaking, from Appalachia. I grew
up in the northern end of the Hunt Country, within
eyeshot of the incomparable Blue Ridge but not actually
from it.
And if George is very, very good, I can show him how to
pick out which gloves to wear in various situations.
Petroleum product stains are *so* hard to get out of kid.
adolphson
sh...@dinah.tc.cornell.edu (Melinda Shore) writes:
> And if George is very, very good, I can show him how to
> pick out which gloves to wear in various situations.
> Petroleum product stains are *so* hard to get out of kid.
And if George is very, very, *very* good, I'll help him
with his wig (an enormous Afro, baby), makeup (can you say
eyelashes for days?), jewelry (enormous hoop earrings and
beaded choker), and hot-pants-and-halter-top Cleopatra Jones
outfit for Lipstick Avengers next week. Does anyone have an
extra pair of over the knee spike heeled boots in George's size?
--
Arne Adolphson "When I see myself on the screen, I am so
adol...@mizar.usc.edu beautiful I jump for joy."
ar...@ursa-major.spdcc.com -- Maria Montez
George Dalton Madison
>someone said i'll have to condition it -- is that true?
["it" being the facial fur he's growing.]
That depends on how it comes in, and how long you let it grow. If
you keep it cropped short (say, 1/4" or less), probably not. If
you let it grow longer, it would probably be a good idea.
George Dalton Madison
>And if George is very, very good, I can show him how to
>pick out which gloves to wear in various situations.
>Petroleum product stains are *so* hard to get out of kid.
Thanks, Melinda, but you're too late; of course, the only gloves
I really have any need of are either latex or neoprene, and my
good friend Lurch (a 6'6 biker RN) has taught me everything I
need to know about such.
George Dalton Madison
>And if George is very, very, *very* good, I'll help him
Arne, you *really* must find yourself a constructive hobby.
Something nice and solitary, like coin collecting or philately.
George Dalton Madison
>Uh, Melinda, you forgot the blue-light-special-sized bottle of either
>Grease Relief or Dawn.
>
>You need _something_ to get that Castrol out of the pores...
As often as I've said it, I'm surprised you don't remember that
my favorite variety of motor oil to play with is Harley-Davidson
60wt; it's just a bit less viscous than chocolate syrup, which
makes for a delightful tactile experience -- particularly between
a couple of furry folk.
_Dawn_ is, of course, the ideal detergent for removing motor oil
from the pelt -- and friends of mine who would be in a position
to know say it works just as well on Crisco.
Tim Pierce
>_Dawn_ is, of course, the ideal detergent for removing motor oil
>from the pelt --
Why, George. I'm disappointed. Why would a big butch he-man like you
want to *remove* the stuff?
Jack Hamilton
>Thanks, Melinda, but you're too late; of course, the only gloves
>I really have any need of are either latex or neoprene, and my
>good friend Lurch (a 6'6 biker RN) has taught me everything I
>need to know about such.
The one with the snake?
adolphson
Fu...@cup.portal.com (George Dalton Madison) writes:
> Arne Adolphson Spews Sputum:
> >And if George is very, very, *very* good, I'll help him
> >[Rest deleted to avoid inflicting more nausea on soc.motss]
> Arne, you *really* must find yourself a constructive hobby.
>
> Something nice and solitary, like coin collecting or philately.
Who says I haven't found a constructive hobby? I
have, and it's *you*. I want to help you tap into
your inner-gourmand *and* your inner-drag queen.
So stop all your fussing and get ready to get down
in your Tamara Dobson drag.
--
Arne Adolphson "When you try on a new hat, look your best,
adol...@mizar.usc.edu wear street makeup, and wear earrings."
ar...@ursa-major.spdcc.com -- Joan Crawford
Pieter Hazewindus
adol...@mizar.usc.edu (adolphson) writes:
|> Fu...@cup.portal.com (George Dalton Madison) writes:
|>
|> > Arne, you *really* must find yourself a constructive hobby.
|>
|> have, and it's *you*.
Myra Breckinridge can't hold a candle to you, Arne.
Pieter Hazewindus pie...@sjc.mentorg.com (work)
Mentor Graphics Corporation, San Jose pie...@vlsi.cs.caltech.edu (other)
Harry Foster
>
>Frankly... some of the nicest men that I've known have been drag
>queens... I wonder if it is in the genes?
>
Of course it's genetic! You know -- there's the decorator gene,
and the hairdresser gene, and the unique ability to accessorize
gene...
I once knew two Marines who were drag queens on their days
off (btw, they were great kissers and, er, rumored to be tops).
Personally, I preferred them out of their dresses. What can I
say? It's a jeep thing...
-Harry
Mike Reaser
|> >Uh, Melinda, you forgot the blue-light-special-sized bottle of either
|> >Grease Relief or Dawn.
|> >
|> >You need _something_ to get that Castrol out of the pores...
|> ><<Ducking, or do you prefer another brand, George??? :-) >>
|>
|> As often as I've said it, I'm surprised you don't remember that
|> my favorite variety of motor oil to play with is Harley-Davidson
|> 60wt; it's just a bit less viscous than chocolate syrup, which
|> makes for a delightful tactile experience -- particularly between
|> a couple of furry folk.
Sorry -- the mental leftovers of dealing with [ the last crumbles of
one's three-year marriage / having the ex-husbear move out ] caused a
few synapses to misfire (if they fired at all)... :-(
|> _Dawn_ is, of course, the ideal detergent for removing motor oil
|> from the pelt -- and friends of mine who would be in a position
|> to know say it works just as well on Crisco.
As well as "ring-around-the-collar" for those of us who occasionally
wear dress shirts.
David Stevenson
>
>
>Myra Breckinridge can't hold a candle to you, Arne.
>
George Dalton Madison
>George Dalton Madison <Fu...@cup.portal.com> wrote:
>>_Dawn_ is, of course, the ideal detergent for removing motor oil
>>from the pelt --
>
>Why, George. I'm disappointed. Why would a big butch he-man like you
>want to *remove* the stuff?
Because it makes piss run off too quickly, of course.
George Dalton Madison
>Fu...@cup.portal.com (George Dalton Madison) wrote:
>>good friend Lurch (a 6'6 biker RN) has taught me everything I
>>need to know about such.
>
>The one with the snake?
You've met Cuddles? I'm not surprised you know (of?) Lurch.
;-{)##]
George Dalton Madison
>> Arne, you *really* must find yourself a constructive hobby.
>> Something nice and solitary, like coin collecting or philately.
>
>Who says I haven't found a constructive hobby? I
I do.
>have, and it's *you*. I want to help you tap into
>your inner-gourmand *and* your inner-drag queen.
1) Neither of the above exists; at least not in any sense that
you would recognize.
2) You quite simply don't want to "help" anyone; you just want
an opportunity to be a snot in public. You rather remind me
of a small child who's *so* proud of what he/she has filled
hir diaper with, he/she smears it on the walls for all to see.
>So stop all your fussing and get ready to get down
>in your Tamara Dobson drag.
No, Arne. On the other hand, if you have access to a complete
National Park Service Ranger uniform in my size, I will gladly
take it off your hands.
Jack Hamilton
>You've met Cuddles? I'm not surprised you know (of?) Lurch.
He is hard to miss, isn't he?
It's been years since I've talked to him, although a friend of mine (who
knew him from DC, I think), runs into him occasionally. I think his
current big snake is a different one from the one I met.
Mick Washbrook
> In article <25m8ql$3...@autodesk.autodesk.com>, mi...@autodesk.com (Mick Washbrook) writes:
> |>
> |> Can anybody give me any idea as to what Odessa, Texas is like?
> |> Thanks.
>
>
> Imagine having your car break down and it needs a week to be repaired.
> There are no places to stay except run-down motels run by fundamentalists.
Oh, you mean it's kinda like Contra Costa Country.
--
George Dalton Madison
>Fu...@cup.portal.com (George Dalton Madison) wrote:
>>You've met Cuddles? I'm not surprised you know (of?) Lurch.
>He is hard to miss, isn't he?
A *bit* of an understatement, IMHO; I consider Lurch to be
highly memorable, and as much for his wit as his stature.
>It's been years since I've talked to him, although a friend of mine (who
>knew him from DC, I think), runs into him occasionally. I think his
>current big snake is a different one from the one I met.
Anything's possible; I've only known Lurch for 6-7 years or so,
and Cuddles is the only snake I'm familiar with.
() Place setting for a gay dinner party:
() - Fork on the left
() - Spoon in the nose
() - Knife in the back
() - Dish, Dish, Dish!
() -- Lurch
Michael A. Thomas
|> [in SF last week, i met a woman with a beard.
|> i envy her -- i've just started a goatee, and it's
|> taking FOREVER to grow in.
Is that what it was? I was going to suggest that you
could probably get a spare razor from housekeeping. My
new little thingy only took a week to grow in.
Go figure.
|> i think i need a testosterone injection.]
Or something. Happen to walk down the street from the
Endup? I'm sure you could have gotten a testosterone injection
down there...
--
Michael Thomas (mi...@gordian.com)
"I don't think Bambi Eyes will get you that flame thrower..."
-- Hobbes to Calvin
USnail: 20361 Irvine Ave Santa Ana Heights, Ca, 92707-5637
PaBell: (714) 850-0205 (714) 850-0533 (fax)
Greg Parkinson
>ja...@rtp.vnet.ibm.com (Jake Coughlin) writes:
>|> [in SF last week, i met a woman with a beard.
>|> i envy her -- i've just started a goatee, and it's
>|> taking FOREVER to grow in.
> Is that what it was? I was going to suggest that you
>could probably get a spare razor from housekeeping. My
>new little thingy only took a week to grow in.
And the last one (what exactly *did* happen to it?)
took what, 13, 14 years?
--
---------------------------------------------------------
Greg Parkinson New York, New York g...@panix.com
...beauty is convulsive or not at all...
Mike G.
mi...@gordian.com writes:
>could probably get a spare razor from housekeeping. My
>new little thingy only took a week to grow in.
Sorry to hear your "new little thingy" is so....little....perhaps it'll
grow!
*"When you put 6 rats and a duck on stage, the duck is gonna stand
out..."*
Michael A. Thomas
|> In <1993Sep14.0...@gordian.com> mi...@gordian.com (Michael A. Thomas) writes:
|> > Is that what it was? I was going to suggest that you
|> >could probably get a spare razor from housekeeping. My
|> >new little thingy only took a week to grow in.
|>
|> And the last one (what exactly *did* happen to it?)
|> took what, 13, 14 years?
Um, I don't recall ever having one before, bar not
feeling like shaving while in the mountains, and the
like. In any case, I doubt that I would have had much
of a problem growing a beard from about the time I was
about 16. It was my moustache which refused to grow
until I was probably in my mid twenties.
C. Everett Coop? I think not.
Michael A. Thomas
|> In article <1993Sep14.0...@gordian.com> Michael A. Thomas,
|> mi...@gordian.com writes:
|> >could probably get a spare razor from housekeeping. My
|> >new little thingy only took a week to grow in.
|>
|> Sorry to hear your "new little thingy" is so....little....perhaps it'll
|> grow!
Oh honey, I have to keep it at bay. Believe me. The damn thing,
given even the slightest encouragement, will grow to unbelievable
proportions on a moments notice.
Honest.
Greg Parkinson
>In article <274fgt$l...@panix.com>, g...@panix.com (Greg Parkinson) writes:
>|> In <1993Sep14.0...@gordian.com> mi...@gordian.com (Michael A. Thomas) writes:
>|> > Is that what it was? I was going to suggest that you
>|> >could probably get a spare razor from housekeeping. My
>|> >new little thingy only took a week to grow in.
>|>
>|> And the last one (what exactly *did* happen to it?)
>|> took what, 13, 14 years?
> Um, I don't recall ever having one before, bar not
>feeling like shaving while in the mountains, and the
>like.
"little thingy" was phrase a HRH Elizabeth-dressed
man used to refer to the genitalia of the men who
stripped for him/her during one of several "command
performances".
Michael A. Thomas
|> "little thingy" was phrase a HRH Elizabeth-dressed
|> man used to refer to the genitalia of the men who
|> stripped for him/her during one of several "command
|> performances".
You mean Quentin Crisp? I guess I should have known
better that this wasn't to be taken literally :-)
Mary Shafer
>
>"little thingy" was phrase a HRH Elizabeth-dressed
>man used to refer to the genitalia of the men who
>stripped for him/her during one of several "command
>performances"
Which reminds me of the doubtless apocryphal story of a woman assessing
a flasher's pride and joy and remarking, "Isn't that cute? It looks just
like a penis, only smaller."
--
Mary Shafer DoD #0362 KotFR sha...@ursa-major.spdcc.com
adolphson
sha...@spdcc.com (Mary Shafer) writes:
[ ... ]
> Which reminds me of the doubtless apocryphal story of a woman assessing
> a flasher's pride and joy and remarking, "Isn't that cute? It looks just
> like a penis, only smaller."
Which reminds me of Lea Delaria's response to a heckler's
suggestion she blow him: "No thanks. I choke on small bones."
--
Arne Adolphson "I don't knock any gadget that comes along--as
adol...@mizar.usc.edu long as it encourages people to keep flexible."
ar...@ursa-major.spdcc.com -- Joan Crawford
Éamonn McManus
> Which reminds me of the doubtless apocryphal story of a woman assessing
> a flasher's pride and joy and remarking, "Isn't that cute? It looks just
> like a penis, only smaller."
This might have been apocryphal once, but there must be many women who
have heard the joke and thought to use it when circumstances permitted.
A close friend of mine did actually say that to a flasher.
,
Eamonn
Randy Vandermolen
sha...@spdcc.com (Mary Shafer) writes:
> Which reminds me of the doubtless apocryphal story of a woman assessing
> a flasher's pride and joy and remarking, "Isn't that cute? It looks just
> like a penis, only smaller."
Or "Does that come in adult sizes too?"
Reminds me of a joke (like what doesn't)
A man and a woman were about to make love for the first time. The Man took his
shoes and socks off. The woman noticed that he had tiny mangled toes. She ask
him, what happened to your toes?. He replied, When I was a kid, I had a case of
toelio. She replied, you mean polio don't you. He said, No, toelio. It only
affects the toes.
He then proceeded to remove his pants. She noticed that his knees were also
tiny and mangled. She asked, what happed to your knees? He replied, when I was
a kid, I had a case of the kneesles. She replied, you mean measles don't you.
He said, No, kneesles. It only affects the knees.
As he proceeded to grab his shorts she muttered, When you were a kid, I hope
you didn't have small cocks.
Randy Vandermolen
Software Engineering Institute
Carnegie Mellon University
Robert Hansen!
Which reminds *me* of David Niven's comment at the 1974 (or so) Academy
Awards, when a streaker dashed across the stage: (paraphrasing) "Isn't it
interesting that the only recognition this poor man will ever get is for
taking off his clothes and exposing his shortcomings..."
ROBERT HANSEN - Oregon Health Sciences University - Portland, Oregon USA
- - - -
"...just another face in a red jump suit" - MST3K theme song
adolphson
co...@speed.osf.org (Robert Coren) writes:
[ ... ]
I actually first heard this as a Sigmund and Anna Freud
joke. Sigmund was having difficulties explaining a new
theory of his to Anna because she didn't know what a
"phallus" was. Exasperated, Sigmund pulled his dick
out and said, "This is a phallus". "Oh", said Anna,
"it's just like a penis, only smaller".
--
Arne Adolphson "When I see myself on the screen, I am so
adol...@mizar.usc.edu beautiful I jump for joy."
ar...@ursa-major.spdcc.com -- Maria Montez
Mike G.
mi...@gordian.com writes:
> Oh honey, I have to keep it at bay. Believe me. The damn thing,
>given even the slightest encouragement, will grow to unbelievable
>proportions on a moments notice.
> Honest.
I read that....and honest, when I come out to SF next I want personal
tours from both you and MM...
Robert Coren
|>
|> sha...@spdcc.com (Mary Shafer) writes:
|> > Which reminds me of the doubtless apocryphal story of a woman assessing
|> > a flasher's pride and joy and remarking, "Isn't that cute? It looks just
|> > like a penis, only smaller."
|>
|> Or "Does that come in adult sizes too?"
|>
|> Reminds me of a joke (like what doesn't)
Me too. This one appeared, I believe, in "Playboy", a very very long
time ago. I'm paraphrasing from memory.
The bride was young, and had grown up very "sheltered". The groom was
looking forward to initiating this innocent child into the mysteries
of sex.
Having removed his clothes, he indicated his penis, and said to her,
"Do you know what this is?"
"Oh, yes," she said, "that's a wee-wee."
The young man glowed with pleasure. "This," he corrected her, "is a
prick."
"Oh, no," she replied, "I've seen lots of pricks before, and I assure
you, that's a wee-wee."