now we have wondrous objects like the IM Sport Liquid Shirt, which is
made in shiny nylon/spandex with a (fiercely) contoured fit (i mean,
*everyone* will appreciate your nipples, so get them perky, *now*).
metal mesh knits (this actually *looks* ok, but it's a
rayon/metallic/acetate creation that will not, repeat will not,
breathe, i am truly sure of this, and i don't want it on my body;
quite possibly, i don't want to have to deal with someone who's been
living with it on *his* body. i mean, god made cotton to save up
all those good smells, and if your clothes don't absorb them, they
*will* go sour. if you really want to save them up, that's what
jockstraps are for.)
ok. i got into a parenthesis from which there was no exit. i'll
start again.
the culmination is the metallic burst knit ("slightly sheer mesh with
sparking foil details. Poly/spandex." [black only]), in combination
with the shiny bullet pant ("shimmery polyurethane/poly blend", which
comes in silver or black).
i would like to dress my current lust object (the young man mark of
previous postings) in some of these things, just because he could
get away with it, or at least would make a damn good try. even then,
he might not want to go out on the street in these clothes, for fear
of laughter.
the IM models are mostly familiar, and they are very attractive guys.
many of them sport big real smiles, some shy half-smiles. the
friendliness that they project distracts the viewer from the utter
*oddness* (not to mention discomfort) of the stuff they're wearing.
i mean, who's going to spring for the After 6 Lounge Pant ("light mesh
animal-inspired [antelope, i think] elastic waist lounge pant" in
"acetate/metallic")? there's a robe, which is, if anything, even
sillier.
ivy but if you want bulging crotches, tight abs, and erect nipples,
this is your catalog
>the IM models are mostly familiar, and they are very attractive guys.
>many of them sport big real smiles, some shy half-smiles. the
>friendliness that they project distracts the viewer from the utter
>*oddness* (not to mention discomfort) of the stuff they're wearing.
>
>i mean, who's going to spring for the After 6 Lounge Pant ("light mesh
>animal-inspired [antelope, i think] elastic waist lounge pant" in
>"acetate/metallic")? there's a robe, which is, if anything, even
>sillier.
>
>ivy but if you want bulging crotches, tight abs, and erect nipples,
And not a hair to be seen anywhere below the neckline.
> this is your catalog
--
Michael Palmer
Claremont, California
mpa...@panix.com
http://www.librarianavengers.com
> now we have wondrous objects like the IM Sport Liquid Shirt, which is
> made in shiny nylon/spandex with a (fiercely) contoured fit (i mean,
> *everyone* will appreciate your nipples, so get them perky, *now*).
When Renee and I were at Kohl's earlier this month, a young woman
in line behind us had a shirt like that. (Who knew Kohl's could be so,
um, contemporary?) She turned to a young man closer to her own age and
asked him if he would wear something like that as she was getting it for
her boyfriend for Christmas. It was clear he was trying to spare her
feelings, hesitated for a moment, and then said "Well, it's not really my
style." She was more than a little disappointed, but she was determined
to buy it. I'm sure she had her own private fantasies about her boyfriend
peeling it off.
cl, thinking he'd break (fashion) laws in several states if he tried
wearing something like that
I've never been especially tempted by the clothes in IM anyway, but I
absolutely refuse to have anything to do with a garment called a
"pant".
--
---Robert Coren (co...@panix.com)------------------------------------
Greg: Andy's missing a glove.
James: Yeah, that accounts for his piss-poor attitude.
Greg: That, and he don't like most people. --_NYPD Blue_, 1/28/97
>On Tue, 17 Dec 2002 03:41:58 +0000 (UTC), in soc.motss,
>zwi...@Turing.Stanford.EDU (Arnold Zwicky) wrote:
>>ivy but if you want bulging crotches, tight abs, and erect
>>nipples,
>And not a hair to be seen anywhere below the neckline.
>> this is your catalog
yes, all that unrelieved smoothness is a bit disappointing to
some of us. there's not even any facial hair, except for the
haven't-shaved-yet-since-we-got-out-of-bed-this-morning look
on a number of the boys.
body hair is not *entirely* absent. we see pleasantly hairy
forearms and legs on page 23, a few models display their armpit
hair (but not enough of them, and some of the others seem to be
smooth there too). there's a whole lot of shavin' been goin'
on. relentlessly smooth chests and bellies. not a wisp of
pubic hair peeking out of even the tiniest thongs and bikini
briefs and jockstraps.
they should hire, oh, zak spears. he'd blow these smoothies
off the page.
fox silver, arbiter of taste, nevertheless about to order
more contour briefs, as the old ones approach
the Land of the Frayed
> Arnold Zwicky <zwi...@Turing.Stanford.EDU> wrote:
> >i mean, who's going to spring for the After 6 Lounge Pant ("light mesh
> >animal-inspired [antelope, i think] elastic waist lounge pant" in
> >"acetate/metallic")? there's a robe, which is, if anything, even
> >sillier.
> I've never been especially tempted by the clothes in IM anyway, but I
> absolutely refuse to have anything to do with a garment called a
> "pant".
I'm disappointed. Here I was thinking that outfit was so *you*.
Gwendolyn
[robert]
>I've never been especially tempted by the clothes in IM anyway, but I
>absolutely refuse to have anything to do with a garment called a
>"pant".
I did a google search on various fulminations on "pant" meaning
a pair of trousers, and came up with a number of amusing examples
of execrable catalog(ue)-ese, much from International Male and
Sears, and mocking conversation in soc.motss
from 1998, f'rinstance:
[me]
>>> ex Sears catalog(ue): "Blue twill fashion pant" for the nonce;
[sandy]
>>However, I can top your Sears catalog(ue) citation. I once saw a label on
>>a pair of Calvin Klein stonewashed jeans that made reference to "the waves
>>beating against the rocks, gently softening each jean."
[jeffrey wm mckeough mcsandris]
>I'm banging away on the keyboard of a machine called Trouser, whose
>name honors the delicate prose of the International Male catalog.
I dunno, "Trouser" sounds like the name of a pet dog or something
to me.
Chris
--
if the planets are misaligned, I may have been logged in under an assumed name.
no matter WHAT/WHO the headers of this post claim , I am
Chris Ambidge =|= amb...@ecf.utoronto.ca =|= chris....@utoronto.ca
chemist by day=|=panda by night=|=www.chem-eng.utoronto.ca/~ambidge/panda.jpg
>In article <atm6e6$qsj$1...@news.Stanford.EDU>,
>Arnold Zwicky <zwi...@Turing.Stanford.EDU> wrote:
>>
>>i mean, who's going to spring for the After 6 Lounge Pant ("light mesh
>>animal-inspired [antelope, i think] elastic waist lounge pant" in
>>"acetate/metallic")? there's a robe, which is, if anything, even
>>sillier.
>
>I've never been especially tempted by the clothes in IM anyway, but I
>absolutely refuse to have anything to do with a garment called a
>"pant".
I have a vision of a one-legged trouser nagging at me here.
Chris "Or perhaps it has something to do with rapid respiration?? Who knew??"
Hansen
--
Chris Hansen | chrishansenhome at btinternet dot com
http://www.hansenhome.demon.co.uk
"As with many cephalopods, he was beautiful, six feet long and flashed
iridescent colors. After some of the drag queens I worked with, he seemed to
have lots of potential." Mike McKinley, the squid-mistress.
And if stores can sell shirtings, why can't they sell pantings?
Shirtings, I believe are collections of fabrics used to make shirts.
[]
>I have a vision of a one-legged trouser nagging at me here.
For the uni-dexter on your list?
--
Ellen Evans 17 Across: The "her" of "Leave Her to Heaven"
je...@panix.com New York Times, 7/14/96
> I dunno, "Trouser" sounds like the name of a pet dog or something
> to me.
Here, Trouser! That's a good boy! Fetch, Trouser!
(pause)
Nope, doesn't work. Maybe if you spelled it Trowser.
--
Kevin Michael Vail | Dogbert: That's circular reasoning.
ke...@vaildc.net | Dilbert: I prefer to think of it as no loose ends.
http://www.vaildc.net/kevin/
>In article <v47vvu4md7obrfsvv...@4ax.com>,
>Christian Hansen <chrisha...@notrash.btinternet.com> wrote:
>
>[]
>
>>I have a vision of a one-legged trouser nagging at me here.
>
>For the uni-dexter on your list?
Wouldn't it be "uni-leg" or sommat? (I can't remember the Latin word for 'leg'
at this time of the morning to save my life and my English-Latin dictionary
has disappeared for good.)
Chris "I know there is a club of uni-peds who band together to buy shoes, with
each one taking the shoe that would fit on their remaining foot." Hansen
>On 17 Dec 2002 19:28:51 -0500, je...@panix.com (Ellen Evans) wrote:
>
>>In article <v47vvu4md7obrfsvv...@4ax.com>,
>>Christian Hansen <chrisha...@notrash.btinternet.com> wrote:
>>
>>[]
>>
>>>I have a vision of a one-legged trouser nagging at me here.
>>
>>For the uni-dexter on your list?
>
>Wouldn't it be "uni-leg" or sommat? (I can't remember the Latin word for 'leg'
>at this time of the morning to save my life and my English-Latin dictionary
>has disappeared for good.)
And you haven't rushed out to get a new one?!?! How can *you*, of all
people, live without a Latin dictionary at hand???
The Latin for let is crus, cruris, n.
MP, retired Latinist
>The Latin for let is crus, cruris, n.
leg
>In article <H7A2w...@ecf.utoronto.ca>,
> amb...@ecf.toronto.edu (Chris Ambidge) wrote:
>
>> I dunno, "Trouser" sounds like the name of a pet dog or something
>> to me.
>
>Here, Trouser! That's a good boy! Fetch, Trouser!
>
>(pause)
>
>Nope, doesn't work. Maybe if you spelled it Trowser.
This was one of its former spellings (also "Trowzer").
Aaron Brothers Art Marts do.
>In article <atm6e6$qsj$1...@news.Stanford.EDU>,
>Arnold Zwicky <zwi...@Turing.Stanford.EDU> wrote:
>>
>>i mean, who's going to spring for the After 6 Lounge Pant ("light mesh
>>animal-inspired [antelope, i think] elastic waist lounge pant" in
>>"acetate/metallic")? there's a robe, which is, if anything, even
>>sillier.
>
>I've never been especially tempted by the clothes in IM anyway, but I
>absolutely refuse to have anything to do with a garment called a
>"pant".
My mother, who taught English before moving into high school
administration, used to fulminate against the word "pantyhose" ("It's
redundant: pantaloons by definition include the stockings!").
MP, pointing out that "Robin Hood: Men in Tights" is also
historically inaccurate since the Robin Hood legend was established by
the 2nd half of the 14th century (it's first mentioned in "Piers
Plowman"), while pantaloons didn't find their way into the English
vocabulary until the mid-17th century
> On Tue, 17 Dec 2002 20:55:28 -0500, in soc.motss, Kevin Michael Vail
> <ke...@vaildc.net> wrote:
> >In article <H7A2w...@ecf.utoronto.ca>,
> > amb...@ecf.toronto.edu (Chris Ambidge) wrote:
> >> I dunno, "Trouser" sounds like the name of a pet dog or something
> >> to me.
> >Here, Trouser! That's a good boy! Fetch, Trouser!
> >(pause)
> >Nope, doesn't work. Maybe if you spelled it Trowser.
> This was one of its former spellings (also "Trowzer").
Darling, you are a veritable, bubbling spring of
*faaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaas*cinating minutiae.
--
邢 唷��
>On 17 Dec 2002 19:28:51 -0500, je...@panix.com (Ellen Evans) wrote:
>>In article <v47vvu4md7obrfsvv...@4ax.com>,
>>Christian Hansen <chrisha...@notrash.btinternet.com> wrote:
>>>...I have a vision of a one-legged trouser nagging at me here.
>>For the uni-dexter on your list?
>Wouldn't it be "uni-leg" or sommat?
it's a quotation, from an old peter cook and dudley moore routine,
about a one-legged man auditioning as (i think) a tap-dancer.
rice highland, whose recording of this is at the Other House
>On Wed, 18 Dec 2002 07:00:45 +0000 (UTC), in soc.motss, Christian
>Hansen <chrisha...@notrash.btinternet.com> wrote:
>>... (I can't remember the Latin word for 'leg'
>>at this time of the morning to save my life and my English-Latin
>>dictionary has disappeared for good.)
>The Latin for le[g] is crus, cruris, n.
a root every literate fag should know, from its occurrence in the
expression "intercrural intercourse" - frottage between the legs,
a.k.a. the "princeton rub".
richard small, who despite his princeton connections has always
preferred on the belly (so a whole lotta kissing can go on)
or between the asscheeks (demi-fucking), but didn't engage
in any of these (or in fact anything involving dicks and other
guys) when he was there
Not if you were up on your Brit radio history.
>In article <74700v4arn1tbe6id...@4ax.com>,
>Christian Hansen <chrisha...@notrash.btinternet.com> wrote:
>>On 17 Dec 2002 19:28:51 -0500, je...@panix.com (Ellen Evans) wrote:
>>
>>>In article <v47vvu4md7obrfsvv...@4ax.com>,
>>>Christian Hansen <chrisha...@notrash.btinternet.com> wrote:
>>>[]
>>>>I have a vision of a one-legged trouser nagging at me here.
>>>
>>>For the uni-dexter on your list?
>>
>>Wouldn't it be "uni-leg" or sommat?
>
>Not if you were up on your Brit radio history.
Well, some of this occurred before I got here, although I am fairly well up on
Goonology ("Have a gorilla?" No! I'm giving them up."), somewhat up on Julian
and Sandy, very happy to count Just a Minute, Have I Got News For You, and I'm
Sorry I Haven't A Clue among my dearest radio friends.
However, Google being my friend, I've found the following:
http://mm.iit.uni-miskolc.hu/abszurd/monty/oneleg.html
which, had I realised that uni-dexter was a quotation from Cook or Moore, I
would have looked up with great alacrity.
Chris "Odd that it's on a Hungarian website, though..." Hansen
That's why they pay me les bucks big.
dear heart, you expect ANYthing about Robin Hood to have more
than a vestige of historical accuracy to it?
Chris
mr moore, mr moore, riding through the glen / ... / steals from the poor /
gives to the rich / stupid bitch
[arnold, but then he makes his living from words, so he tends
to know more of this stuff than many of us]
>a root every literate fag should know, from its occurrence in the
>expression "intercrural intercourse" - frottage between the legs,
>a.k.a. the "princeton rub".
i'm reminded of one of my fave interchanges in *Beautiful Thing*
in which Jamie and Ste are reading from a stolen gay mag (as I
recall it)
"you cannot transmit the haitch-I-V virus by masturbation or
frottage" [he rhymes it with "cottage"]
"what's 'frottij'?"
"it's French - it means youggurt"
given those translations of life-on-the-street, it might be
illuminative - or confusing, I spoze - to see what gay youth in
south london did with the much more exotic "intercrural"
Chris
who likes both sex and yogurt and cheese (french fromage or otherwise)
but (unimaginative panda that he is) usually keeps sex and dairy products
separate
>MP, pointing out that "Robin Hood: Men in Tights" is also
>historically inaccurate since the Robin Hood legend was established by
>the 2nd half of the 14th century (it's first mentioned in "Piers
>Plowman"), while pantaloons didn't find their way into the English
>vocabulary until the mid-17th century
I'll bet that they didn't have horn-rimmed Malcolm X glasses either.
--
---
Eric Holeman eholem1 at uic,edu Chicago Illinois USA
> In article <3e004f22...@news.panix.com>,
> Michael Palmer <mpa...@panix.com> wrote:
> >MP, pointing out that "Robin Hood: Men in Tights" is also
> >historically inaccurate since the Robin Hood legend was established by
> >the 2nd half of the 14th century (it's first mentioned in "Piers
> >Plowman"), while pantaloons didn't find their way into the English
> >vocabulary until the mid-17th century
> I'll bet that they didn't have horn-rimmed Malcolm X glasses either.
Darlings, I believe the "tights" here referred to bias-cut hosen, often
fabulously adorned with codpiece and points. A garment that was seen from
the Sack of Rome (Hi, Arne) in various forms with the surcote and until the
doublet and pants-like "Venetians" gave way to the "Persian coat" and
breeches during the Cavalier (17th century) period. Or is the Belmopan
Drag Queen Society hopelessly at sea with their costume history?
--
邢 唷��
> i'm reminded of one of my fave interchanges in *Beautiful Thing*
> in which Jamie and Ste are reading from a stolen gay mag (as I
> recall it)
> "you cannot transmit the haitch-I-V virus by masturbation or
> frottage" [he rhymes it with "cottage"]
> "what's 'frottij'?"
> "it's French - it means youggurt"
everyone knows that yoghurt is *bulgarian*. (hi, scott!)
alex we're all bulgarians here adams
[mikey of texas]
> Darlings, I believe the "tights" here referred to bias-cut hosen, often
>fabulously adorned with codpiece and points. A garment that was seen from
>the Sack of Rome (Hi, Arne) in various forms with the surcote and until the
>doublet and pants-like "Venetians" gave way to the "Persian coat" and
>breeches during the Cavalier (17th century) period. Or is the Belmopan
>Drag Queen Society hopelessly at sea with their costume history?
I seem to recall reading that Charles II was responsible
for changing styles from doublet&hose type of male clothing
to breeche / waistcoat / jacket, the forerunner of the three-
piece suit - his tailors got the style going and of course
everyone at court followed along. That would be congruent with
the BDQS information.
Chris
didja know that French for "pantyhose" is "bas culottes"; which has a
distinct air (to moi) of French revolution, sans-cullottides and tumbrils.
Of course, the English don't call 'em pantyhose, but rather "tights".
Which seems to be a full circle - or, as Kevin would say, no loose ends
> [mikey of texas]
> > Darlings, I believe the "tights" here referred to bias-cut hosen, often
> >fabulously adorned with codpiece and points. A garment that was seen from
> >the Sack of Rome (Hi, Arne) in various forms with the surcote and until the
> >doublet and pants-like "Venetians" gave way to the "Persian coat" and
> >breeches during the Cavalier (17th century) period. Or is the Belmopan
> >Drag Queen Society hopelessly at sea with their costume history?
> I seem to recall reading that Charles II was responsible
> for changing styles from doublet&hose type of male clothing
> to breeche / waistcoat / jacket, the forerunner of the three-
> piece suit - his tailors got the style going and of course
> everyone at court followed along. That would be congruent with
> the BDQS information.
I *did* make an "A" in Costume History.
I also got an "A" in my recent literature of Latin America class.
Well, hop up on my finger and crow!
--
邢 唷��
> [michael grumping about robin hood moving pictures]
>>> >MP, pointing out that "Robin Hood: Men in Tights" is also
>>> >historically inaccurate since the Robin Hood legend was established by
>>> >the 2nd half of the 14th century (it's first mentioned in "Piers
>>> >Plowman"), while pantaloons didn't find their way into the English
>>> >vocabulary until the mid-17th century
>
> [mikey of texas]
>> Darlings, I believe the "tights" here referred to bias-cut hosen, often
>>fabulously adorned with codpiece and points. A garment that was seen from
>>the Sack of Rome (Hi, Arne) in various forms with the surcote and until the
>>doublet and pants-like "Venetians" gave way to the "Persian coat" and
>>breeches during the Cavalier (17th century) period. Or is the Belmopan
>>Drag Queen Society hopelessly at sea with their costume history?
>
> I seem to recall reading that Charles II was responsible
> for changing styles from doublet&hose type of male clothing
> to breeche / waistcoat / jacket, the forerunner of the three-
> piece suit - his tailors got the style going and of course
> everyone at court followed along. That would be congruent with
> the BDQS information.
The whole thing about pantaloons is that, for the first time, they
combined breeches with stockings, a la Dr. Denton. There is no
reference to this style in British sources until the Restoration.
The English peasant of the 12th through 14th centuries wore a tunic
and possibly breeches (extending no farther than the knee), although
these tended to get in the way of fertilizing the fields. If the
weather got cold he wrapped something around his legs.
I met a Bulgarian in a gay bar Saturday night.
He didn't quite know what to make of my remarks about heresy and
buggery.
--
David W. Fenton http://www.bway.net/~dfenton
dfenton at bway dot net http://www.bway.net/~dfassoc
Would anyone choose to dismiss an eyewitness account such as this?
>On Wed, 18 Dec 2002 08:10:53 -0600, in soc.motss, Mike McKinley
><mp...@mail.utexas.edu> wrote:
>>Michael Palmer wrote:
>>> On Tue, 17 Dec 2002 20:55:28 -0500, in soc.motss, Kevin Michael Vail
>>> <ke...@vaildc.net> wrote:
>>> >In article <H7A2w...@ecf.utoronto.ca>,
>>> > amb...@ecf.toronto.edu (Chris Ambidge) wrote:
>>> >> I dunno, "Trouser" sounds like the name of a pet dog or something
>>> >> to me.
>>> >Here, Trouser! That's a good boy! Fetch, Trouser!
>>> >(pause)
>>> >Nope, doesn't work. Maybe if you spelled it Trowser.
>>> This was one of its former spellings (also "Trowzer").
>>
>> Darling, you are a veritable, bubbling spring of
>>*faaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaas*cinating minutiae.
>
>That's why they pay me les bucks big.
So librarians get paid in sides of venison. Who knew?
Chris "I wonder whether the vegetarian and vegan librarians go on strike for
less doe?" Hansen
>On Wed, 18 Dec 2002 19:10:19 GMT, mpa...@panix.com (Michael Palmer) wrote:
>
>>On Wed, 18 Dec 2002 08:10:53 -0600, in soc.motss, Mike McKinley
>><mp...@mail.utexas.edu> wrote:
>>>Michael Palmer wrote:
>>>> On Tue, 17 Dec 2002 20:55:28 -0500, in soc.motss, Kevin Michael Vail
>>>> <ke...@vaildc.net> wrote:
>>>> >In article <H7A2w...@ecf.utoronto.ca>,
>>>> > amb...@ecf.toronto.edu (Chris Ambidge) wrote:
>>>> >> I dunno, "Trouser" sounds like the name of a pet dog or something
>>>> >> to me.
>>>> >Here, Trouser! That's a good boy! Fetch, Trouser!
>>>> >(pause)
>>>> >Nope, doesn't work. Maybe if you spelled it Trowser.
>>>> This was one of its former spellings (also "Trowzer").
>>>
>>> Darling, you are a veritable, bubbling spring of
>>>*faaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaas*cinating minutiae.
>>
>>That's why they pay me les bucks big.
>
>So librarians get paid in sides of venison. Who knew?
Just where do you think we get the buckram for binding books?
> didja know that French for "pantyhose" is "bas culottes"; which
> has a distinct air (to moi) of French revolution, sans-cullottides
> and tumbrils. Of course, the English don't call 'em pantyhose, but
> rather "tights".
And the Dutch, always happy to make language confusing, call them
"panty" (or plural "pantys" (note spelling)). Unless they use rather
more Dutch word "kousen", which can also means (long) socks or
stockings (silk or other).
Marina
Your breath came in short pants?
--
---Robert Coren (co...@panix.com)------------------------------------
"I pride myself on my lack of vanity."
--Lee Rudolph
lol
My favorite part in that movie is the chastity belt scene, when the
key is spilled from its holder and sails through the air in slow
motion on its way to the treasure. Just brilliant IMO.