U2
Army of Lovers
Mark Almond
Human League
Lyle Lovett
The Beautiful South
Alison Moyet
Judy Small
Cassellberry-Dupree
Queen
Bahaus
Love and Rockets
Daniel Ash
Tchaikovsky
Phranc
Bob Mould/Husker Du/Sugar
Kitchens of Distinction
Voice Farm
King Missile
Thompson Twins
Deee-lite
Grace Jones
Adult Children of Heterosexuals
Thrill Kill Kult
The Smiths/Morrissey
Bronski Beat
Jimmy Sommerville
Communards
Peter Murphy
k d lang
Indigo Girls
Erasure
REM
The Frogs
Sylvester
Love Tractor
B-52's
Paul Lekakis
Cole Porter
Holly Near
Chris Williamson
Meg Christian
Michelle Shocked-maybe
Tanita Tikaram-maybe
Whitney Houston
Robyn Ochs
The Flirtations
Tracy Chapman
Ferron
Two Nice Girls/Laurie Freelove
Ma Rainey
June Millington
Frankie Goes to Hollywood
The Washington Sisters
Romanovsky and Phillips
Casselberry and Dupree
Sweet Honey in teh Rock
Saffire the Uppity Blues Women
Rhiannon
Alive!
Mellissa Ethridge
Joan Armatrading
Depeche Mode
Soft Cell
Rob Halford/Judas Priest
Ian MacKaye/Minor Threat
J.J. Quantz
Bob Ostertag
Schubert
Edvard Grieg
Aaron Copeland
Samuel Barber
Leonard Bernstein
David Diamond
John Cage
Pauline Oliveros
Mickael Tippett
Benjamin Britten
Percy Grainger
Hans Werner Henze
Sylvano Bussotti
Boy George
Elton John
Pretenders
Joe Jackson
Annie Lennox
Bobby McFerrin
Consolidated
Pete Townshend
David Bowie
Lou Reed/Velvet Underground
Coil
Fred Small
Liberace
Kate Bush
XTC
Howard Jones
Erasure
Pet Shop Boys
Electronic
Yaz
Madonna
The Buzzcocks
Tori Amos
Sophie B. Hawkins
Suzanne Vega
Berlin
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>Why is Allison Moyet on this list, she is married to Elvis Costello.
And Whitney Houston is married to Bobby Brown and is pregnant.
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>Okay, people...here it is....a while ago i asked for names of
>Lesbian/Bisexual/Gay musicians....your response has been tremendous...some
>U2
Are we talking about the bassplayer here? There was a lot of "innuendo" in
the last issue of the Face.
>The Beautiful South
From NME:
INTERVIEWER: What was the last illegal thing you did?
PAUL HEATON (songwriter/lead singer/ex-member of the Housemartins): Is sodomy
still illegal?
INTERVIEWER: Ah...no. Not really.
HEATON: Ok! Shoplifting it is!
>The Smiths/Morrissey
>REM
A picture of Michael Stipe with his arm around Morrisey appeared in Rolling
Stone about six months to a year ago. Caption: "Michael Stipe with his new
confidant Morrisey."
The same picture appeared in a Morrisey interview in the latest Q magazine (the
most recent to reach Australia, anyhow.) The interview spent half a page on the
relationship between the two, suggesting that it looked as if they were going
to make "beautiful music" together. Morrisey laughed off what may have been
an innocuous remark about musical collaboration, and went on to talk about how
well they got on as people, and how they never talked about music.
So what's the dish? Is Stipe gay (or bi, as I've heard from a few sources?)
>Michelle Shocked-maybe
She's at least bi. The songbook for Captain Swing mentions her female lover
at the time of making the record.
This is only a minor criticism, but *I'd* appreciate knowing who *is* and
who's just supportive...
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"I'm making the point that a society, which by your standards was sexually
repressive, but in which the nuclear family was strong, was likely to be
a society with less poverty, less crime, less drug taking, more kids finishing
high school..."
-- "Madonna laid bare," another superbly
accurate article in the Australian.
>U2
>Army of Lovers
>Mark Almond
>Human League
>Lyle Lovett < Are you sure about this?
Which proves nothing. Apart from that, I'm fairly sure Elvis Costello is
married to Cait O'Rordon (that spelling is incorrect) and has been for a long
time.
--- G M Heinrich ( le...@socs.uts.edu.au )
Here lies the records that she scratched and on the sleeve I see a note attached
The Face has never been short on innuendo (alledgedly). As a matter of
interest, purely idle curiosity you understand, was it the bassplayer who
was appeared naked on the cover of Achtung Baby?
>>The Beautiful South
>From NME:
>INTERVIEWER: What was the last illegal thing you did?
>PAUL HEATON (songwriter/lead singer/ex-member of the Housemartins): Is sodomy
> still illegal?
>INTERVIEWER: Ah...no. Not really.
>HEATON: Ok! Shoplifting it is!
Paul Heaton has a strange sense of humour, I wouldn't read too much into
this. The original drummer of The Housemartins (P.H.'s first band) left due
to "press" (read "The Sun") speculation that all of them were gay - in an
interview at the time he said he couldn't care less what the trash tabloids
said but that they were harrassing his elderly mother. I'd put them in the
supportive column but nothing else.
>>The Smiths/Morrissey
>>REM
>A picture of Michael Stipe with his arm around Morrisey appeared in Rolling
>Stone about six months to a year ago. Caption: "Michael Stipe with his new
>confidant Morrisey."
>So what's the dish? Is Stipe gay (or bi, as I've heard from a few sources?)
...and if so what is he wasting his time with Morrisey for? Moz has gone
from being the most important talent of the british alternative music scene
to being a self obsessed dilettante prone to flirting with right wing imagery.
His sexuality has always been subject to scrutiny since homoeroticism was rife
in his earlier lyrics. When asked recently if he was gay he stated:
"I'm not homo, hetro or bi-sexual, I am a human being, I am sexual."
To tie in with the best/worst thread, compare Morrisey's recent output;
"But your always busy, busy, busy,
busy clippers ooh, ooh, ooh,
hairdresser on fire."
to his work with the Smiths;
"Its so easy to laugh, its so easy to hate
but it takes strength to be gentle and kind."
On a different note, Billy Bragg is supportive, as is the awful Sonia. Was
Tom Collins^h^h^h^h^h^h^h Robinson mentioned?
Mike.
Elvis Costello is married to a woman who is with the
Irish band _The Pogues_. Unless a divorce and remarriage
happened recently, I think you have the names confused.
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> The Face has never been short on innuendo (alledgedly). As a matter of
>interest, purely idle curiosity you understand, was it the bassplayer who
>was appeared naked on the cover of Achtung Baby?
Yep.
>>>The Beautiful South
> Paul Heaton has a strange sense of humour, I wouldn't read too much into
>this. The original drummer of The Housemartins (P.H.'s first band) left due
>to "press" (read "The Sun") speculation that all of them were gay
They haven't made any real secret of this.
>supportive column but nothing else.
No, I'd go further. Boy! This is just like detective work!
>>>The Smiths/Morrissey
>>>REM
>>So what's the dish? Is Stipe gay (or bi, as I've heard from a few sources?)
> ...and if so what is he wasting his time with Morrisey for? Moz has gone
>from being the most important talent of the british alternative music scene
>to being a self obsessed dilettante prone to flirting with right wing imagery.
People say that regulary. Why?
>His sexuality has always been subject to scrutiny since homoeroticism was rife
>in his earlier lyrics. When asked recently if he was gay he stated:
> "I'm not homo, hetro or bi-sexual, I am a human being, I am sexual."
Morrisey came out years ago. I think that was more a comment on sexual
labelling than any kind of denial.
> To tie in with the best/worst thread, compare Morrisey's recent output;
>"But your always busy, busy, busy,
> busy clippers ooh, ooh, ooh,
> hairdresser on fire."
> to his work with the Smiths;
>"Its so easy to laugh, its so easy to hate
> but it takes strength to be gentle and kind."
You've just compared a good punchline to one of the Smiths least
interesting lyrics - in the sense that the Smiths had wonderfully
ironic songwriting, and that one is too obvious.
--- G M Heinrich ( le...@socs.uts.edu.au )
"It *is* a love letter"
"You're going to typewrite a love letter to someone?"
"It's an electric typewriter."
.... but not Peter Pears ..... oh dear!
Also, another few for your list -
Jeffry Tate
Peter Maxwell Davies
Iain Hamilton
His first solo single "Suedehead", the namesake book is the story of a
skinhead whose favorite past time is gay bashing. He uses neo-nazis as
photographic back dxrops at his concerts. He drapes himself in the flag.
He writes sympathetic songs called "National Front Disco". He's also made
a few racist comments about "dance" music.
>>His sexuality has always been subject to scrutiny since homoeroticism was rife
>>in his earlier lyrics. When asked recently if he was gay he stated:
>> "I'm not homo, hetro or bi-sexual, I am a human being, I am sexual."
>
>Morrisey came out years ago. I think that was more a comment on sexual
>labelling than any kind of denial.
True. He was openly gay, rumour had it that he was having an affair with
Lloyd Cole (was he on the list?). He now claims to be celibate and is a lot
more cagey about his sexuality.
>> To tie in with the best/worst thread, compare Morrisey's recent output;
>>"But your always busy, busy, busy,
>> busy clippers ooh, ooh, ooh,
>> hairdresser on fire."
>> to his work with the Smiths;
>>"Its so easy to laugh, its so easy to hate
>> but it takes strength to be gentle and kind."
>
>You've just compared a good punchline to one of the Smiths least
>interesting lyrics - in the sense that the Smiths had wonderfully
>ironic songwriting, and that one is too obvious.
"You shut your mouth, how can you say, I go about things the wrong way"
:-)
>--- G M Heinrich ( le...@socs.uts.edu.au )
Mike.
m...@aber.ac.uk
I'm not familiar with the book; could you provide a more specific reference?
I'd be interested in reinterpreting that song in its context.
>He uses neo-nazis as photographic back dxrops at his concerts. He drapes
>himself in the flag.
I've been to two concerts in the past year and have never seen any (neo-)nazi
symbolism.
>He writes sympathetic songs called "National Front Disco".
Oh, I can't believe you claim this song is "sympathetic". I had taken just
the opposite meaning. The only sympathy here is toward the misguided "David":
"And I still say, where is our boy, oh, we've lost our boy..."
>He's also made a few racist comments about "dance" music.
The only comment I've heard is that he doesn't like it.
> "You shut your mouth, how can you say, I go about things the wrong way"
> :-)
"Leave me alone, I was only singing..." :-)
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mark
After I said to him - or someone. I think he started it. Anyhow:
>>>to being a self obsessed dilettante prone to flirting with right wing imagery
>>People say that regulary. Why?
> His first solo single "Suedehead", the namesake book is the story of a
>skinhead whose favorite past time is gay bashing.
Suedehead *is* an english expression for "skinhead." (I think.) It doesn't
refer to any particular one - or, at least, it wouldn't to Morrisey if
skinhead is actually just a slang term for skinhead in England.
> He uses neo-nazis as photographic back dxrops at his concerts.
> He drapes himself in the flag.
Irony!
>He writes sympathetic songs called "National Front Disco".
The English National Front think Britain is a "white" country. Saying "There's
a country/you don't live there" points out how wrong they are. Following this
with "but someday you might like to/and if you show them what you're made of"
means "Boy, you people are violent creeps. And for such supposed 'people who
don't take any shit from anyone,' you sure seem desperate for approval."
Describing the national front as a disco (a place that, I've heard, Morrisey
considers to be full of vacuous twits) is not a compliment.
> He's also made
>a few racist comments about "dance" music.
Don't know anything about that. He's been called a rascist for saying (in one
of the new songs): "we are the last truly British people you will ever know."
Morrisey also considers the British to be twits - really ugly people. This,
also, isn't a compliment.
>>Morrisey came out years ago. I think that was more a comment on sexual
>>labelling than any kind of denial.
> True. He was openly gay, rumour had it that he was having an affair with
>Lloyd Cole (was he on the list?). He now claims to be celibate and is a lot
>more cagey about his sexuality.
When he was with the Smiths, Morrisey came out. But he said he found the
whole idea of sex revolting (in a more polite way than Justin Sullivan, I'll
add) and prefered to remain celibate. In the last interview I read, he said he
"now saw the need for a physical relationship." He didn't say who it would be
with. I'm "rooting" for Michael Stipe.
Btw (I have to point this out): I am not a Morrisey fan, in the sense that
Morrisey fans are boring, wear too much black, are obsessive, hang off his
every word and irritate other people at parties. I just like his stuff.
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Suedehead is slang for a type of skinhead (they have marginally longer
hair than "skins"), the phrase was first coined in the Richard Allan novels
(he did a series, I only read the first one as it was disturbingly violent).
>> He uses neo-nazis as photographic back dxrops at his concerts.
>> He drapes himself in the flag.
>Irony!
Hmmm...
>Don't know anything about that. He's been called a rascist for saying (in one
>of the new songs): "we are the last truly British people you will ever know."
>Morrisey also considers the British to be twits - really ugly people. This,
>also, isn't a compliment.
Great track, praises a football hooligan, Britains greatest export (Irony!)
The thing that really bugs me about Mozzer is the way he totally exploits his
"English" eccentric image. In interviews he rarely talk about Britain, it's
always England this, England that and his American fans seem to lap it up.
Maybe I'm just pissed off that I missed Euro-pride this year to see him at
Glastonbury and the bastard never showed.
>Btw (I have to point this out): I am not a Morrisey fan, in the sense that
>Morrisey fans are boring, wear too much black, are obsessive, hang off his
>every word and irritate other people at parties. I just like his stuff.
You forgot the fact we all smoke Gitanes.
Mike.
(Euro-fag).