FEAR OF USA
Piero
obsession over guns, war, disease, all the bad news re religious fundies,
the rise of fascism, etc. I wish we, Canadians, could erect a wall all
along the border to protect ourselves from the cancer spreading from the
south.
Dangerous, dangerous USA!
Diane Boyd
Oh, come on now, Piero, we aren't perfect. All those dangerous, horrid
things you mentioned are alive and thriving in Canada. You just don't see
the knife coming...it slips in from behind. We are just more sneaky,
more subtle in our ways; especially when it comes to discrimination.
Dee (a Canuck with her head out of the sand)
Ken Rudolph
: The more I read in soc.motss, the more frightened I become: all this
: obsession over guns, war, disease, all the bad news re religious fundies,
: the rise of fascism, etc. I wish we, Canadians, could erect a wall all
: along the border to protect ourselves from the cancer spreading from the
: south.
: Dangerous, dangerous USA!
What do we call this, amerophobia? Is this a trend? Am I going to have
to go through a Wall when I visit Vancouver next month? I thought the
current fad was for soc.motss.ca people to move down *here*!
Oh, yes, Piero, don't forget that Wall to the northwest. Alaska is the
USA, too. Maybe we should do what we should have done in 1814 and annex
Canada and end your pitiful illusions of self-sufficiency once and for all.
Only, who needs *your* problems?
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Mark Oxner
In a previous article, vup...@freenet.mb.ca (Piero) says:
>The more I read in soc.motss, the more frightened I become: all this
>obsession over guns, war, disease, all the bad news re religious fundies,
>the rise of fascism, etc. I wish we, Canadians, could erect a wall all
>along the border to protect ourselves from the cancer spreading from the
>south.
>
>Dangerous, dangerous USA!
>
Consider it payback for sending us Alannis Morisette.
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City of Toronto Housing Dept (Cityhome)
>> obsession over guns, war, disease, all the bad news re religious fundies,
>> the rise of fascism, etc. I wish we, Canadians, could erect a wall all
>> along the border to protect ourselves from the cancer spreading from the
>> south.
>>
>> Dangerous, dangerous USA!
>>
>>
>things you mentioned are alive and thriving in Canada. You just don't see
>the knife coming...it slips in from behind. We are just more sneaky,
>more subtle in our ways; especially when it comes to discrimination.
>
>
>Dee (a Canuck with her head out of the sand)
Bull. I recently checked out an intersteing website on visiting San
Francisco done by a professional organization (not just someone's
personal webspace), and the various neighbourhoods were rated in terms of
their relative safety at night, for women, for gay men, etc. I thought,
even living in downtown Toronto (or Winnipeg, for that matter), I cannot
imagine having to worry about if I'll make it home safe after a night at
the bars, or take it for granted that friends from out of town will have
to call a taxi to get to their hotel rather than walk or take transit.
What kind of life can this be? And let's get things in perspective.
What was the murder rate in Toronto last year? Fewer than 60. Out of a
downtown population of 2.2-million.
Furthermore, I can't believe some of the threads in the soc.motss group.
Religious fundamentalism, crime, gun control. Switch over to the
can.motss newsgroup and get some relevant (albeit Canadian) gay and
lesbian news.
A fellow Canuck who usually does not spout (pronounced "spoot") off.
david s. broudy
(Cityhome)" <co...@hookup.net> wrote:
- What was the murder rate in Toronto last year? Fewer than 60. Out of a
- downtown population of 2.2-million.
Hm, that's about a day's worth here.
I <heart> Toronto. *sigh* I miss Church St, the UT campus, and, well,
pretty much all of it I guess (except Scarborough).
- Furthermore, I can't believe some of the threads in the soc.motss group.
- Religious fundamentalism, crime, gun control. Switch over to the
- can.motss newsgroup and get some relevant (albeit Canadian) gay and
- lesbian news.
Well I'd move there *tomorrow* if 1) the application fee for a resident
visa was not $500US, 2) that quaint "landing fee" of another $7-800US
didn't exist, and 3) the economy was better. That's enough to keep me on
the rough n tumble side of the border. I'm pretty confident of getting a
visa under the independent immigrant catgory, but that's a big chunk of
cash to wager on it since it's non-refundable.
Isn't the Ontario political climate getting a bit chilly what with that
slash n burn Ronald Reagan wannabe as premier? my friends at UT and UO are
getting awfully nervous about funding cuts.
* http://www-bcf.usc.edu/~broudy/ *
"And as poetry, it's so bad, so awful, so heavily soaked"
Colin Bunnell
> " What was the murder rate in Toronto last year? Fewer than 60. Out of a
> The number of murders in San Francisco last year was about 120. The
> population of SF is about 720,000 or less than 1/3 of Toronto. This means
> the murder rate in Toronto is about 70% HIGHER than in San Francisco. And
> you're worried about San Francisco? Time to look in your own back yard.
Math's not your strong point, is it?
-c
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David A. Kaye
" Math's not your strong point, is it?
Yesterday was a long and stressful day. Even so, I'd rather live in a
city with 6 times more crime than live in a city covered with ice half the
year. Yesterday it was 70 under clear skies. Today it's still a little
foggy, but it's about 63.
Our Board of Supervisors (combined city and county council) overwhelmingly
(I think it was 11 to 1) passed a resolution authorizing a gay/lesbian
marriage ritual ceremony, presided over by a city clerk or deputy. Sure,
it's not the "real thing" but it's as close as we're going to get for a
long time. Only New York and Madison Wisconsin have passed similar
measures.
San Francisco is a place where someone can say they're gay and they're
met with a blank "so what" stare. Yes, I'd trade that for a thousand
backward American or Canadian cities.
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(c) 1996 The USA, "land of the free," jails more of its
David Kaye citizens than any other country on earth.
David A. Kaye
" > long time. Only New York and Madison Wisconsin have passed similar
" > measures.
The title is "USA", so I'm speaking about the USA, not the rest of the
world, which appears to fare much better in lesbigay issues than the USA.
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David Kaye than Dallas is to San Francisco
Arne Adolfsen
>John Whiteside wrote the quoted material below:
>" > long time. Only New York and Madison Wisconsin have passed similar
>" > measures.
>" You don't pay much attention to the world, do you?
>The title is "USA", so I'm speaking about the USA, not the rest of the
>world, which appears to fare much better in lesbigay issues than the USA.
On a unanimous vote, the West Hollywood City Council approved a
domestic partnership law over 10 years ago. Does that count?
Then again, Yom Kippur is a City holiday (to balance out Christmas
as a City holiday, I guess).
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Tim Pierce
>City of Toronto Housing Dept (Cityhome) wrote the quoted material below:
>
>" What was the murder rate in Toronto last year? Fewer than 60. Out of a
>" downtown population of 2.2-million.
>
>The number of murders in San Francisco last year was about 120. The
>population of SF is about 720,000 or less than 1/3 of Toronto. This means
>the murder rate in Toronto is about 70% HIGHER than in San Francisco.
Just astonishing.
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John Whiteside
> Our Board of Supervisors (combined city and county council) overwhelmingly
> (I think it was 11 to 1) passed a resolution authorizing a gay/lesbian
> marriage ritual ceremony, presided over by a city clerk or deputy. Sure,
> it's not the "real thing" but it's as close as we're going to get for a
> long time. Only New York and Madison Wisconsin have passed similar
> measures.
You don't pay much attention to the world, do you?
> San Francisco is a place where someone can say they're gay and they're
> met with a blank "so what" stare. Yes, I'd trade that for a thousand
> backward American or Canadian cities.
Wow. That never, ever, happens anywhere else, David. Never. What an
amazing city it is that you live in.
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David A. Kaye
" On a unanimous vote, the West Hollywood City Council approved a
" domestic partnership law over 10 years ago. Does that count?
Did that include the city providing a city clerk or a deputy to perform a
marriage ceremony? The laws in SF, NY, and Ann Arbor provide for this. I
haven't heard a word about WH going this far yet. I didn't talk about
domestic partnership registration. That's old hat.
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David Kaye held together with pins
Sim Aberson
>Piero (vup...@freenet.mb.ca) wrote:
>: The more I read in soc.motss, the more frightened I become: all this
>: obsession over guns, war, disease, all the bad news re religious fundies,
>: the rise of fascism, etc. I wish we, Canadians, could erect a wall all
>: along the border to protect ourselves from the cancer spreading from the
>: south.
>
>: Dangerous, dangerous USA!
>
>to go through a Wall when I visit Vancouver next month? I thought the
>current fad was for soc.motss.ca people to move down *here*!
I was thinking the same thing. I currently know of four motssers who
are trying to move from Canada into the US, and none who are trying to
go the other way.
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