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Tom Hawk

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Steve Teeter wrote:
>
> Tom Hawk wrote in message <35C26F...@ix.netcom.com>...
> >Ricardo wrote:
> >>
> >> Does anyone here remember an inflatable j/o device called the
> >> Accujack that was big in the late 70's? Does anyone know why
> >> it's no longer on the market? I'd buy one in a minute!
> >> They are quite effective between 2 men!
> >
> >Check out Catalog X at
> >
> >http://www.catalogx.com/index1.shtml
> >
> >HTH
> >
> >Tom
>
> Tom, I would like very much to check it out, but I can't make contact. Has
> this site gone belly up? If you find where they've wandered off to, please
> let us know.
>
> turb...@neosoft.com
It's still there. I just hit my bookmark and it went thru. Just
clicked on the link in the message and it connected. suggest you copy
and paste or double check your typing.

Tom

Fafnir_Säuglingsheim

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On 3 Aug 98 15:13:51 GMT, in soc.motss, er...@bga.com (Clayton Colwell)
wrote:

>FafnirSuglingsheim wrote:
>
>: TMIQ to me: "Where on *earth* did you learn to do *that*?!"
>
>: Me: Twelve summers on the farm.
>
>You better give details *real* quick, lest we believe the sheep
>were scared.

What sheep? My oma had a *dairy* farm.

About sheep, however ... One of the jokes making the rounds of the
choral-singing circles when I lived in Yorkshire in the early 1970's
concerned the singing of the line in the _Messiah_: "And we, like
sheep, have gone astray". Apparently, Welsh choirs are wont to sing
the line as "And we LIKE sheep ..."

Michael, who also knows how to castrate bullocks

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Michael L. Siemon

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In article <35c63897...@192.0.2.3>, Fafnir Säuglingsheim wrote:

+...the line in the _Messiah_: "And we, like sheep, have gone astray".

That's "*All* we like sheep" (the ditty is known in Seminary circles
-- and presumably beyond -- as the Bestiality Chorus...)

Get with the program...
--
Michael L. Siemon m...@panix.com

"Green is the night, green kindled and apparelled.
It is she that walks among astronomers."
-- Wallace Stevens

Kenneth Ashton Callicott

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In article <35c63897...@192.0.2.3>, <Fafnir Säuglingsheim> wrote:
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>What sheep? My oma had a *dairy* farm.

Meine Oma hat Motorrad,
Ohne Bremse, Ohne Licht.

Ken, more wasted neurons, not to mention the hundreds if not
thousands of dollars!

--
Ken Callicott Hopkins Marine Station kac...@leland.stanford.edu
"It'd be better if he had stars on his ass."
--my housemate Beth, on an Olympic figure skater

Michael L. Siemon

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In article <6q5lrf$2k2$1...@ndnws01.ne.highway1.com>,
co...@ursolaris.spdcc.com (Robert S. Coren) wrote:

+>That's "*All* we like sheep" (the ditty is known in Seminary circles
+>-- and presumably beyond -- as the Bestiality Chorus...)
+
+Not only that, but since this is one of the choruses for which Handel
+recycled music that had originally had a different text, the scansion
+is a little off, and gives more emphasis to "like" than he might
+otherwise have done.

Hmmm. My feeling is that the upward fourth from "all" to "we" places
the greatest em*phas'*is on "we" (with the "like" a third lower rather
less strongly urged.) YMMV. :-) Indeed, the descending third *almost*
suggests that "like" is supposed to be something other than a verb...
but of course such a silly suggestion may be discarded from the outset.
Cf. the current thread on "like me" (which is correct English usage; I
suggest those who think otherwise need to apply to a certain wooly (and
wild) mammoth, now in pa, ca.

Robert S. Coren

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In article <mls-030898...@mls.dialup.access.net>,

Michael L. Siemon <m...@panix.com> wrote:
>In article <35c63897...@192.0.2.3>, Fafnir Säuglingsheim wrote:
>
>+...the line in the _Messiah_: "And we, like sheep, have gone astray".
>
>That's "*All* we like sheep" (the ditty is known in Seminary circles
>-- and presumably beyond -- as the Bestiality Chorus...)

Not only that, but since this is one of the choruses for which Handel


recycled music that had originally had a different text, the scansion

is a little off, and gives more emphasis to "like" than he might

otherwise have done.

(This also explains "Fore! unto us a child is born", BTW.)
--
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Mike McManus

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Michael L. Siemon wrote:

> In article <6q5lrf$2k2$1...@ndnws01.ne.highway1.com>,
> co...@ursolaris.spdcc.com (Robert S. Coren) wrote:
>

> +>That's "*All* we like sheep" (the ditty is known in Seminary circles
> +>-- and presumably beyond -- as the Bestiality Chorus...)

I've amassed (from Usenet, mostly) a nice little collection of fractured
Messiah titles (I'll have to save this one... and the other reply with
"Fore! Unto us a child is born";-) :

Come for tea, my people
Oh thou, that sellest aluminum siding
The trumpet shall sound, and the rent shall be raised
Shirley, she hath worn our briefs
Let us break their buns asunder
O Beth, where is thy thing? (O Dave, where is thy dick to me?)

> +Not only that, but since this is one of the choruses for which Handel
> +recycled music that had originally had a different text, the scansion
> +is a little off, and gives more emphasis to "like" than he might
> +otherwise have done.
>
> Hmmm. My feeling is that the upward fourth from "all" to "we" places
> the greatest em*phas'*is on "we" (with the "like" a third lower rather
> less strongly urged.) YMMV. :-) Indeed, the descending third *almost*
> suggests that "like" is supposed to be something other than a verb...
> but of course such a silly suggestion may be discarded from the outset.
> Cf. the current thread on "like me" (which is correct English usage; I
> suggest those who think otherwise need to apply to a certain wooly (and
> wild) mammoth, now in pa, ca.

Handel made "an unusual error in prosody" (quoted from notes in my Dover
score) in "The trumpet shall sound," which was explained by his use of a
German soloist: the phrase "the dead shall be raised incorruptible" is set
so that "incorruptible" has the stress on the next-to-last syllable (i.e.
"in-corr-rup-TI-ble"). The modern edition I have has this corrected in
small print.

Perhaps "Oh, we like sheep" is a similar situation.

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Michael Palmer

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On 3 Aug 1998 18:07:10 -0700, in soc.motss, kac...@leland.Stanford.EDU
(Kenneth Ashton Callicott) wrote:

>In article <35c63897...@192.0.2.3>, <Fafnir Säuglingsheim> wrote:
>>

>>What sheep? My oma had a *dairy* farm.
>
>Meine Oma hat Motorrad,
>Ohne Bremse, Ohne Licht.
>
>Ken, more wasted neurons, not to mention the hundreds if not
> thousands of dollars!

Oh, just take it from that vast trust fund mummy and daddy set up for
you.

Fafnir_Säuglingsheim

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On Mon, 03 Aug 1998 20:05:30 -0400, in soc.motss, m...@panix.com
(Michael L. Siemon) wrote:

>In article <35c63897...@192.0.2.3>, Fafnir Säuglingsheim wrote:
>

>+...the line in the _Messiah_: "And we, like sheep, have gone astray".
>

>That's "*All* we like sheep" (the ditty is known in Seminary circles

>-- and presumably beyond -- as the Bestiality Chorus...)
>

>Get with the program...

"And" ... "All" ... That's what I get for quoting Georg Friedrich
Andall without looking up the text.

Michael, who has never sung _Messyass_, and much prefers _Israel in
Egypt_ ("Frogs! Frogs! Their land brought forth FROGS")

Michael Palmer

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On 4 Aug 1998 02:11:27 GMT, in soc.motss, Mike McManus
<mmcm...@frontiernet.net> wrote:

>Handel made "an unusual error in prosody" (quoted from notes in my Dover
>score) in "The trumpet shall sound," which was explained by his use of a
>German soloist: the phrase "the dead shall be raised incorruptible" is set
>so that "incorruptible" has the stress on the next-to-last syllable (i.e.
>"in-corr-rup-TI-ble").

I'm almost certain that my old vinyl recording (Sir Malcolm Sargent,
Liverpool Philharmonic, Isobel Baillie/Gladys Ripley/James
Johnston/Norman Walker) places the stress on the 3rd syllable (i.e.,
"in-cor-RUP-tible"). But then Sir Malcolm was never a stickler for
historical accuracy.

Michael, "blotches and blains broke forth on man and beast"

Chris Ambidge

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[Michael, on some item of English usage]

>but of course such a silly suggestion may be discarded from the outset.
>Cf. the current thread on "like me" (which is correct English usage; I
>suggest those who think otherwise need to apply to a certain wooly (and
>wild) mammoth, now in pa, ca.

while it is ALWAYS a good idea to consult the woolly
mammoth on such matters, biiig arnold is presently
packing up his home in ohiofornia east. He flies from columbus
to palo alto, ohiofornia west, on September the one.

chris
who is writing ba in cols a postcard right now

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James Walker

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On 3 Aug 1998, Kenneth Ashton Callicott wrote:

> In article <35c63897...@192.0.2.3>, <Fafnir Säuglingsheim> wrote:
> >

> >What sheep? My oma had a *dairy* farm.
>
> Meine Oma hat Motorrad,

Isn't is "Oma fa:hrt ihr Motorrad"?

> Ohne Bremse, Ohne Licht.

Und der Schu:tzmann auf der Ecke,
Dieser Dummkopf sieht es nicht.

James
can also recite most of Christian Morgenstern's "Der Werwolf"

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Robert S. Coren

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In article <35C66DCC...@frontiernet.net>,

Mike McManus <mmcm...@frontiernet.net> wrote:
>
>I've amassed (from Usenet, mostly) a nice little collection of fractured
>Messiah titles (I'll have to save this one... and the other reply with
>"Fore! Unto us a child is born";-) :
>
...

>Let us break their buns asunder

Some years ago, when I was studying the bass arias from _Messiah_, I
borrowed my (then) voice teacher's copy, which (to judge from the name
inside the front cover) had actually been his wife's copy before they
were married; the title of the above piece had been "corrected" to
read as above.

>O Beth, where is thy thing? (O Dave, where is thy dick to me?)

There's a whole text that goes with this, if I remember correctly; our
conductor had brought it to rehearsal, and was was showing it to
selected people, a year or two ago.

>> +Not only that, but since this is one of the choruses for which Handel
>> +recycled music that had originally had a different text, the scansion
>> +is a little off, and gives more emphasis to "like" than he might
>> +otherwise have done.
>>
>> Hmmm. My feeling is that the upward fourth from "all" to "we" places
>> the greatest em*phas'*is on "we" (with the "like" a third lower rather
>> less strongly urged.) YMMV. :-) Indeed, the descending third *almost*
>> suggests that "like" is supposed to be something other than a verb...

>> but of course such a silly suggestion may be discarded from the outset.

Well, I wonder if he might otherwise not have given "like" a whole
quarter-note.

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Arnold Zwicky

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michael siemon writes that the mammoth is in pa, ca. this is not
yet true; at the moment the mammoth is in cols, oh.

the mammoth flies on the 1st!

wm's biiig friend


Robert Feiertag

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In article <6q7lp1$l...@julius.ling.ohio-state.edu>,

Arnold Zwicky <zwi...@julius.ling.ohio-state.edu> wrote:
>michael siemon writes that the mammoth is in pa, ca. this is not
>yet true; at the moment the mammoth is in cols, oh.
>
>the mammoth flies on the 1st!

Ooooh, a flying mammoth. Has Disney heard about this?

Arnold, how's the packing, sorting, tossing, etc., going? It's about time
for an update, methinks.

Bob

Michael Palmer

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On Tue, 4 Aug 1998 13:41:45 -0400, in soc.motss, James Walker
<s06...@aix1.uottawa.ca> wrote:

>On 3 Aug 1998, Kenneth Ashton Callicott wrote:
>
>> In article <35c63897...@192.0.2.3>, <Fafnir Säuglingsheim> wrote:
>> >
>> >What sheep? My oma had a *dairy* farm.
>>
>> Meine Oma hat Motorrad,
>
>Isn't is "Oma fa:hrt ihr Motorrad"?
>
>> Ohne Bremse, Ohne Licht.
>
>Und der Schu:tzmann auf der Ecke,
>Dieser Dummkopf sieht es nicht.
>
>James
>can also recite most of Christian Morgenstern's "Der Werwolf"

My *hero*!!

Ein Werwolf eines Nachts entwich
von Weib und Kind und sich begab
an eines Dorfschullehrers Grab
und bat hin: Bitte, beuge mich!

Der Dorfschulmeister stieg hinauf
auf seines Blechschilds Messingknauf
und sprach zum Wolf, der seine Pfoten
geduldig kreuzte vor dem Toten:

"Der Werwolf" - sprach der gute Mann,
"des Weswolfs, genitiv sodann,
dem Wemwolf, Dativ, wie man's nennt,
den Wenwolf, - damit hat's ein End."

Dem Werwolf schmeichelten die F"alle,
er rollte seine Augenb"alle.
Indessen, bat er, "f"uge doch
zur Einzahl auch die Mehrzahl noch!"

Der Dorfschulmeister aber musste
gestehn, dass er von ihr nichts wusste.
Zwar W"olfe gab's in grosser Schar,
doch "Wer" gab's nur im Singular.

Der Wolf erhob sich tr"anenblind -
er hatte ja doch Weib und Kind!!
Doch da er kein Gelehrter eben,
so schied er dankbar und ergeben.

Michael, who has a recording of a really sexy reading of it by Lenya

James Walker

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On Tue, 4 Aug 1998, Michael Palmer wrote:

> On Tue, 4 Aug 1998 13:41:45 -0400, in soc.motss, James Walker
> <s06...@aix1.uottawa.ca> wrote:
>
> >On 3 Aug 1998, Kenneth Ashton Callicott wrote:
> >
> >> In article <35c63897...@192.0.2.3>, <Fafnir Säuglingsheim> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >What sheep? My oma had a *dairy* farm.
> >>
> >> Meine Oma hat Motorrad,
> >
> >Isn't is "Oma fa:hrt ihr Motorrad"?

Oops, checked my old German textbook last night. Should be:

Meine Oma fa:hrt Motorrad

> >> Ohne Bremse, Ohne Licht.
> >
> >Und der Schu:tzmann auf der Ecke,

Should be "an der Ecke".

(Prepositions in Germanic languages are such a pain.)

> >Dieser Dummkopf sieht es nicht.
> >
> >James
> >can also recite most of Christian Morgenstern's "Der Werwolf"
>
> My *hero*!!
>

<poem snipped for space>


>
> Michael, who has a recording of a really sexy reading of it by Lenya

Danke sehr for posting it - I always forget the last two verses.

James

Chris Ambidge

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Mike gave us some delightful Handelian bons-mots:

>Come for tea, my people
>Oh thou, that sellest aluminum siding
>The trumpet shall sound, and the rent shall be raised
>Shirley, she hath worn our briefs

>Let us break their buns asunder

>O Beth, where is thy thing? (O Dave, where is thy dick to me?)

which I, shameless creature that I am, sent on to some
friends. One of them retaliated with an almost complete *Messiah*
libretto -- sort of:

====

THE MESSYAH

Thus saith the Lord, the Lord of Toast:
"Yet once a little while, and I will bake
the breads and dessert, whole wheat and the rye-bread:
all bagels, I'll bake, with the desire of all noshers for some.
The chef whom ye seek shall certainly send you a sample,
ev'n by messenger with an oven mitt (which ye fit right in);

Behold! Even buns!" saith the Lord of Toast.

But who may abide the bray of his strumming,
and who shall stand when he premiereth?
For he has liked to get minors sired.

For he shall surely buy, for he shall surely buy, -- a ton of Levi's;
That he may offer unto the horde an offering of "righteous" dress.

Behold! A sturgeon shall bite Steve, and take his gun,
and shall hold a flame to Samuel. Cod with us.

O thou, that sellest good siding to Brian,
Get thee up unto the accountants...

There were shephereds, imbibing in the fields,
drinking scotch over the rocks by night.
And lo! the urge to smorgasbord came upon them
and a glorious aroma round about them;
they thought they had it made
But the waiter said unto them, "Here? Not!
for behold, we're out of smoked salmon and cream cheese.
Take your spree to those people:
For you will find across the way, in the Cafe' of David,
A flavor which is spiced--galore!"

His yolk is over easy, his breakfast is "lite."

All we, asleep, still have to play;
we have yearned, every one to his own pay.

Thou art gone onstage high, thou art gone onstage high!
Thou has held the Cabernet captive, and enough gin for ten,
Yea, even for thie enemas!
Front row, poor sods, thou fell among them!

Thou shalt fake them with their rotten high runs,
Thou shalt thrash them, those pieces, while thy daughters wrestle.

The Lord saved the herd:
Great was the humping among the creatures.

How beautiful is the seat of him that teaches the sophomores in Greece,
and fits so tightly in good jeans...

Since by van came Beth,
by van came also the headboard section of the bed.
But has she had some more pie?
Even just one slice, with all that stuff inside!

The cumpet shall brown,
and the bread shall be raised--it smells wonderful!
(Are those eggs free range?)

O Beth, where is thy thing?

O Dave, where thy dick for me?
The thing of Beth is thin,
and the length of his is quite long.

But thanks, thanks be to Todd,
Who playeth us the timpani through our long winter nights.

Honolulu! For I would rather be on vacation!
The thing about this world is the sun;
Get me a seat on board tomorrow's flight, tomorrow's flight,
And catch those rays for ever and ever.
Fling of fling, and scores of whores, Honolulu!


(compliled by G.T. for the December 1993 "Philharmonia Baroque Musician,
the newsletter of Philharmonia Baroque players. (c) PBM 1993)

=====no permission and all that

Chris
looking out for someone who sellest aluminum siding

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Kenneth Ashton Callicott

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In article <Pine.A41.3.95q.98080...@aix1.uottawa.ca>,

James Walker <s06...@aix1.uottawa.ca> wrote:
>On Tue, 4 Aug 1998, Michael Palmer wrote:
>> On Tue, 4 Aug 1998 13:41:45 -0400, in soc.motss, James Walker
>> <s06...@aix1.uottawa.ca> wrote:
>> >On 3 Aug 1998, Kenneth Ashton Callicott wrote:
>> >> Meine Oma hat Motorrad,
>> >
>> >Isn't is "Oma fa:hrt ihr Motorrad"?
>
>Oops, checked my old German textbook last night. Should be:
>
>Meine Oma fa:hrt Motorrad

Yours was still closer.

>> >> Ohne Bremse, Ohne Licht.
>> >
>> >Und der Schu:tzmann [...]
>
> [...]"an der Ecke".


>> >Dieser Dummkopf sieht es nicht.

Oh, great. *More* wasted neurons! So, do you remember the
lyrics to "Desutchland Ohne Alles"? What I recall is something
like:
Deutschland, Deutschland ohne Alles
Ohne (something), ohne (something).
Und die bischen Marmelade
Isst uns die Besetzung weg!

Ken, who wishes he could remember practical things, like how to
actually speak the language.

Robert S. Coren

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In article <ubtpy2...@uab.ericsson.se>,
Robert Cumming <ROBERT....@uab.ericsson.se> wrote:
>In article <35c8d9ba....@enews.newsguy.com>,
>j...@acm.org (Jack Hamilton) quoted:
>> <> If he's content with a vegetable love which would certainly not suit me,
>> <> Why what a particularly pure young man this pure young man must be!
>
>How our tastes reveal us even at an early age. This was without
>question my favourite G&S song at the age of 9 (or whenever it was I
>was most obsessed).

Well, now that you've called it to my attention, it's going to
irritate me until the scansion is fixed. ("Why, what a *most*
particularly pure young man...")
--
-------Robert Coren (co...@spdcc.com)-------------------------
"Life is easy to chronicle, but bewildering to practice."
--E. M. Forster, _A Room With a View_

James Walker

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On 5 Aug 1998, Kenneth Ashton Callicott wrote:

> Oh, great. *More* wasted neurons! So, do you remember the
> lyrics to "Desutchland Ohne Alles"? What I recall is something
> like:
> Deutschland, Deutschland ohne Alles
> Ohne (something), ohne (something).
> Und die bischen Marmelade
> Isst uns die Besetzung weg!

Leider habe ich das nie geho:rt (sofort wie ich mich daran erinnern kann).

There were a couple of other rhymes in my old textbook:

Eins zwei drei vier fu:nf sechs sieben,
Wo denn ist mein Schatz geblieben?
Ist nicht hier, ist nicht da,
Ist wohl in Amerika.

And one in "Dialekt" (unnamed, but, having done some work on Low
German/English codeswitching, I'd guess Low German):

Ene mene mu,
Jan stinkt nu.
Dat do ick nickt
Dat dust du.

[insert name of person you don't like for "Jan"]

> Ken, who wishes he could remember practical things, like how to
> actually speak the language.

If I (finally!) end up going to Germany in February, I'll have to
brush up.

Robert S. Coren

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>There were a couple of other rhymes in my old textbook:
>
>Eins zwei drei vier fu:nf sechs sieben,
>Wo denn ist mein Schatz geblieben?
>Ist nicht hier, ist nicht da,
>Ist wohl in Amerika.

Which reminds me, on a tangent, of the version of "One, Two, Buckle my
Shoe" that Walt Kelly often used (and presumably invented -- I've
never seen it anywhere else):

Eins, zwei, Polizei,
Drei, vier, Offizier,
Fünf, sechs, alte Hex,
Sieben, acht, gute Nacht,
Neun, zehn, auf Wiedersehn!
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"Trust me -- I'm fast when I know what I want."
--Will Parsons

Fred Flinstone

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Try going to http://www.venusii.com

The updated version is now called the Venus 2000, and it rocks.

Fred.

Ricardo wrote in message <35C23C...@itsa.ucsf.edu>...

Éamonn McManus

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co...@ursolaris.spdcc.com (Robert S. Coren) writes:

> James Walker <s06...@aix1.uottawa.ca> wrote:
> Which reminds me, on a tangent, of the version of "One, Two, Buckle my
> Shoe" that Walt Kelly often used (and presumably invented -- I've
> never seen it anywhere else):
> Eins, zwei, Polizei,
> Drei, vier, Offizier,
> Fünf, sechs, alte Hex,
> Sieben, acht, gute Nacht,
> Neun, zehn, auf Wiedersehn!

There was a Euro Dance Hit ® four years ago by "Mo-Do" with these
words. At least, it began "Eins, zwei, Polizei" and I think the other
words were the same.

,
Eamonn http://www.mtcc.com/~eamonn/
"Soon all will be lovely"

FJ!!

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In article <ei...@kaa.gr.osf.org>, Éamonn McManus <eam...@mtcc.com> wrote:
>co...@ursolaris.spdcc.com (Robert S. Coren) writes:
>> Neun, zehn, auf Wiedersehn!

>There was a Euro Dance Hit ® four years ago by "Mo-Do" with these
>words. At least, it began "Eins, zwei, Polizei" and I think the other
>words were the same.

The last line was not used.
FJ!! (Ok, so I was going through
a _Viva_ fase.)

"Protesteren moet je leren" - Marije Schadee in _Trouw_

Robert S. Coren

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In article <ei...@kaa.gr.osf.org>, Éamonn McManus <eam...@mtcc.com> wrote:
>co...@ursolaris.spdcc.com (Robert S. Coren) writes:

>> Which reminds me, on a tangent, of the version of "One, Two, Buckle my
>> Shoe" that Walt Kelly often used (and presumably invented -- I've
>> never seen it anywhere else):
>> Eins, zwei, Polizei,
>> Drei, vier, Offizier,
>> Fünf, sechs, alte Hex,
>> Sieben, acht, gute Nacht,

>> Neun, zehn, auf Wiedersehn!
>
>There was a Euro Dance Hit ® four years ago by "Mo-Do" with these
>words. At least, it began "Eins, zwei, Polizei" and I think the other
>words were the same.

That's probably where Kelly got it, then.[1]


[1] Don't read this note if you know this already: Kelly died in 1973.


--
-------Robert Coren (co...@spdcc.com)-------------------------
"Remember, the receiving person always backs up."
--Contra-dance caller, explaining a move to a roomful of queerfolk

Lee Rudolph

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co...@ursolaris.spdcc.com (Robert S. Coren) writes:

>In article <ei...@kaa.gr.osf.org>, Eamonn McManus <eam...@mtcc.com> wrote:
>>co...@ursolaris.spdcc.com (Robert S. Coren) writes:
>
>>> Which reminds me, on a tangent, of the version of "One, Two, Buckle my
>>> Shoe" that Walt Kelly often used (and presumably invented -- I've
>>> never seen it anywhere else):
>>> Eins, zwei, Polizei,

[etc.]


>>
>>There was a Euro Dance Hit four years ago by "Mo-Do" with these
>>words. At least, it began "Eins, zwei, Polizei" and I think the other
>>words were the same.

The EDH presumably accounts for most of the 30-odd sites that
AltaVista found for me last night, but there was also a Swiss
(Romand) site which described the verse as something "we all
learned in our German classes". That, plus the fact-or-fantasy
(I can't decide which) that my German-speaking grandmother may
have spoken the verse to me (though I'm perfectly sure that my
main--if not only--reason for knowing it is via Kelly's bats
Bewitched, Bothered, and Bemildred) inclines me to doubt that
Walt invented it.

Lee Rudolph

Éamonn McManus

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co...@ursolaris.spdcc.com (Robert S. Coren) writes:
> In article <ei...@kaa.gr.osf.org>, Éamonn McManus <eam...@mtcc.com> wrote:
> >There was a Euro Dance Hit ® four years ago by "Mo-Do" with these
> >words. At least, it began "Eins, zwei, Polizei" and I think the other
> >words were the same.
> That's probably where Kelly got it, then.[1]

Nothing I said implied that I thought this. I have only the vaguest
idea who Walt Kelly might have been, and am not especially interested
in knowing more, but I was (equally vaguely) aware that he preceded
these particular Monsters of Trivial European Music. Since I think the
group in question is or was German, a common origin seemed the most likely
explanation, and indeed Lee Rudolph's reply seems to confirm that.

Robert S. Coren

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In article <6qfb1p$7...@panix3.panix.com>,

Lee Rudolph <lrud...@panix.com> wrote:
>
>The EDH presumably accounts for most of the 30-odd sites that
>AltaVista found for me last night, but there was also a Swiss
>(Romand) site which described the verse as something "we all
>learned in our German classes". That, plus the fact-or-fantasy
>(I can't decide which) that my German-speaking grandmother may
>have spoken the verse to me (though I'm perfectly sure that my
>main--if not only--reason for knowing it is via Kelly's bats
>Bewitched, Bothered, and Bemildred) inclines me to doubt that
>Walt invented it.

Well, maybe he didn't. However, it would have been unusual for him to
have taken something like that verbatim, rather than adapt it in his
own inimitable way.

(The bats? I associate it principally with Albert.)
--
-------Robert Coren (co...@spdcc.com)-------------------------
"Yet another reason not to read Usenet."
--a soc.motss lurker, referring to me

Robert S. Coren

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In article <w...@kaa.gr.osf.org>, Éamonn McManus <eam...@mtcc.com> wrote:
>co...@ursolaris.spdcc.com (Robert S. Coren) writes:
>> In article <ei...@kaa.gr.osf.org>, Éamonn McManus <eam...@mtcc.com> wrote:
>> >There was a Euro Dance Hit ® four years ago by "Mo-Do" with these
>> >words. At least, it began "Eins, zwei, Polizei" and I think the other
>> >words were the same.
>> That's probably where Kelly got it, then.[1]
>
>Nothing I said implied that I thought this.o

Nothing I said was intended to imply that I thought you thought
this. I didn't think I needed to use smileys with you.

>I have only the vaguest
>idea who Walt Kelly might have been, and am not especially interested
>in knowing more

Hmph. Illiterate Europeans.
--
-------Robert Coren (co...@spdcc.com)-------------------------
"The 'Ring' can be read as the story of an aristocrat who grows bored
in a loveless marriage and builds a palace he cannot afford. He cuts
corners, and the world ends." -- Alex Ross in _The New Yorker_ of 8/10/98

Paula Cobb

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Fred Flinstone wrote in message <35ca6...@news.mediacity.com>...

>Try going to http://www.venusii.com
>
>The updated version is now called the Venus 2000, and it rocks.

My word. At $1395 for women and $1095 for men, it had better be good.


--
pkc...@unix.amherst.edu / pkc...@ma.ultranet.com
Cambridge, MA

Arnold Zwicky

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in article <6q7m6v$o...@chemistry.ohio-state.edu>,
bob feiertag <rfei...@chemistry.mps.ohio-state.edu> wonders:

>In article <6q7lp1$l...@julius.ling.ohio-state.edu>,
>Arnold Zwicky <zwi...@julius.ling.ohio-state.edu> wrote:

>>michael siemon writes that the mammoth is in pa, ca. this is not
>>yet true; at the moment the mammoth is in cols, oh.

>>the mammoth flies on the 1st!

>Ooooh, a flying mammoth. Has Disney heard about this?

the flying mammoth lacks the style and grace of the flying skwirl,
but is on the whole much more dangerous to be around.

>Arnold, how's the packing, sorting, tossing, etc., going? It's about time
>for an update, methinks.

don't ask.

oh, you just asked. i alternate between thinking i've got it
sort of in hand and thinking there's no way it's going to get done.

the garage door opener people, the electrician, the plumber, the
tree surgeons, the chimney repair guys (four days of soul-destroying
noise and clumping about on the roof, which knocked some of the
insulation loose inside), and mr. fix-it (who figured out how to
restore the insulation) have all been here and done good work,
leaving with large wads of american currency. twelve cartons of
books have gone to the stanford department; there will be another
eight or so, but i have to hold off on them because the stanford
department is in temporary quarters until 26 august and the post
office won't deliver packages to them. eighteen cartons of stuff
have gone to the archives (i am famous enough in my tiny little world
that there are manuscript collections that actually *want* my papers),
with probably another ten to go.

the books go, by slow freight, on the 24th. there will be about
200 cartons of books, recordings (lps, a.k.a. vinyl), and papers in
this shipment. they go into storage in santa cruz. (we had trouble
finding a storage place with a serious loading dock, one that could
cope with 10,000 pounds of palletized - as they say - books 'n' stuff.)

on the 25th, i move into a hotel.

on the 28th, everything else goes, some to my house in palo alto,
some to a storage place in santa clara.

on the 31st, there is the closing on the house, and i give up my
'95 toyota to the car-moving folks. (my '86 toyota, which lives in
california, will meet me at sfo.)

on the 1st, the mammoth flies, as i've already said. descent at noon.

elizabeth was here for eleven days, doing huge numbers of useful
things, plus documenting the then-state of the garden with her digital
camera. a few hours before she left, a colleague and old friend
arrived from seattle (as it happens, e. was flying to seattle), to
help me sort through files; ellen knows the people and the literature,
and was able to whip through the files, dividing them into Keep, Toss,
or Archive. she actually enjoyed the experience.

there were three file drawers of "old stuff", plus one of memorabilia.
two drawers of "sort-of-current stuff". three drawers of files about
courses i've taught. two drawers of pullum/zwicky collaboration stuff.
four drawers of "*really* current" stuff (ok, there's a pile of
really-really current stuff right by this computer). and 22 drawers
of the "main files", arranged alphabetically.

(there was also a whole half-attic full of stuff that elizabeth
and i had sorted through, all of which was Archive, with a little Toss.)

ellen and i got through everything up into the letter K in the main
files. this morning, i realized with horror that if i did a file
drawer a day, i would just barely make it. but then i was crouching
by the front door, waiting for the cable guy to come and take away
the cable equipment (annb having carried away the big tv, as per our
plan), so i just sorted files for six hours, getting into the letter P
and getting a bit ahead of the game.

i go to mail packages at the post office every day, and i go to the
UPS place to ship things every day. for a while, i took scrap paper
to the recycling center every other day, but now it's every day. five
big bags today.

on saturday we - the neighborhood - had a big garage sale. i sold
off vast amounts of things, but of course the result of clearing out
a lot of stuff is merely to expose the next, dark and looming, layer
of stuff behind it. i have nightmares about it all.

on sunday annb carried away the large pieces that she needs. including
her bed, so she's no longer sleeping here, but is instead sliding into
life in her own apartment, a few miles south of here.

there's more, much more. but you asked, bob, you asked.

ebbing yes it all costs a fortune craft, in a desperate moment

XAOS

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Arnold Zwicky wrote in message
<6qqbnj$t...@julius.ling.ohio-state.edu>...

>in article <6q7m6v$o...@chemistry.ohio-state.edu>,
>bob feiertag <rfei...@chemistry.mps.ohio-state.edu> wonders:
> >Ooooh, a flying mammoth. Has Disney heard about this?
>
>the flying mammoth lacks the style and grace of the flying skwirl,
>but is on the whole much more dangerous to be around.


If for no other reason, owing to gravity?

- Steve

Arnold Zwicky

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in article <6qset8$v5l$1...@camel0.mindspring.com>, steve xaos
<xa...@mindspring.com> asks:

the very reason i had in mind.

alex i spent the morning writing a conference abstract
so sue me for still having a life beyond moving adams

Michael Palmer

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Aug 13, 1998, 3:00:00 AM8/13/98
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In article <6q7lp1$l...@julius.ling.ohio-state.edu>,
Arnold Zwicky <zwi...@julius.ling.ohio-state.edu> wrote:
>
> the mammoth flies on the 1st!

The scene: wartime Paris. It is night, and the fog is rolling in
from the river. She is wearing stiletto heels and a black satin
dress, the neckline plunging all the way down to here, the sides slit
all the way up to there. She stands under a street lamp, the light
caressing her every curve. Suddenly, out of the mists, there appears
a strange man. He is wearing a trenchcoat with the collar turned up,
and a hat pulled down to obscure his face. Silently, he approaches
her, quickly glances around to make certain they are unobserved, and
addresses her in a low, conspiratorial tone: "The mammoth flies on
the 1st!" . . .

Fred Cherry

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Aug 13, 1998, 3:00:00 AM8/13/98
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Fafnir Säuglingsheim writes:

>On 3 Aug 98 15:13:51 GMT, in soc.motss, er...@bga.com (Clayton Colwell)
>wrote:

>>FafnirSuglingsheim wrote:
>>
>>: TMIQ to me: "Where on *earth* did you learn to do *that*?!"
>>
>>: Me: Twelve summers on the farm.
>>
>>You better give details *real* quick, lest we believe the sheep
>>were scared.

>What sheep? My oma had a *dairy* farm.

>About sheep, however ... One of the jokes making the rounds of the
>choral-singing circles when I lived in Yorkshire in the early 1970's
>concerned the singing of the line in the _Messiah_: "And we, like
>sheep, have gone astray". Apparently, Welsh choirs are wont to sing
>the line as "And we LIKE sheep ..."

>Michael, who also knows how to castrate bullocks

>---
>Michael Palmer
>Famous Bovines International
>Claremont, California
>mpa...@netcom.com

Speaking of music, is anyone here familiar with Leopold Mozart's
Castration in G ?

Leopold Mozart was the father of Wolfpack Amadeus Mozart.

Or is the Castration in G something composed by P.D.Q. Bach ?


jo...@world.std.com (Fred Cherry)

Grand Duke of Yugoslobia
Duke of Vulgaria
Grand Muff-Diver of Jerusalem
Elector of Homophobia
& Baron of Gray Matter


Peggy Fieland

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Aug 13, 1998, 3:00:00 AM8/13/98
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In article <35d27db7....@192.0.2.3>,
Michael Palmer <mpa...@netcom.com> wrote:
>The scene: wartime Paris.

I've cast Humphrey Bogart as the man in the trenchcoat, but I haven't
got an actress for the babe in the black satin dress.

Maybe I need to brush up on my old movies...

Peggy


Fred Cherry

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Fafnir Säuglingsheim writes:

>On Mon, 03 Aug 1998 20:05:30 -0400, in soc.motss, m...@panix.com
>(Michael L. Siemon) wrote:

>>In article <35c63897...@192.0.2.3>, Fafnir Säuglingsheim wrote:
>>

>>+...the line in the _Messiah_: "And we, like sheep, have gone astray".
>>
>>That's "*All* we like sheep" (the ditty is known in Seminary circles
>>-- and presumably beyond -- as the Bestiality Chorus...)
>>
>>Get with the program...

>"And" ... "All" ... That's what I get for quoting Georg Friedrich
>Andall without looking up the text.

>Michael, who has never sung _Messyass_, and much prefers _Israel in
> Egypt_ ("Frogs! Frogs! Their land brought forth FROGS")

>---
>Michael Palmer
>Famous Bovines International
>Claremont, California
>mpa...@netcom.com


Don't mention frogs anywhere near Ezekiel Krahlin.

Fred Cherry

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rfei...@chemistry.mps.ohio-state.edu (Robert Feiertag) writes:

>In article <6q7lp1$l...@julius.ling.ohio-state.edu>,
>Arnold Zwicky <zwi...@julius.ling.ohio-state.edu> wrote:

>>michael siemon writes that the mammoth is in pa, ca. this is not
>>yet true; at the moment the mammoth is in cols, oh.
>>

>>the mammoth flies on the 1st!

>Ooooh, a flying mammoth. Has Disney heard about this?


I have enough problems with pigeons. Can you imagine what a flying mammoth
could do? The cleaning bills would be astronomical!!

Ken Rudolph

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Aug 13, 1998, 3:00:00 AM8/13/98
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Veronica Lake.

HTH

--Ken Rudolph

Alex Elliott

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Aug 13, 1998, 3:00:00 AM8/13/98
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Peggy Fieland (pfie...@spot.sw.stratus.com) wrote:
: In article <35d27db7....@192.0.2.3>,
: Michael Palmer <mpa...@netcom.com> wrote:
: >The scene: wartime Paris.

: I've cast Humphrey Bogart as the man in the trenchcoat, but I haven't
: got an actress for the babe in the black satin dress.

RuPaul?

Alex.

>=<>=<>=<>=<>=<>=<>=<>=<>=<>=<>=<>=<>=<>=<>=<
Alex Elliott
Yale University Physics Department
New Haven, CT, USA

email: ell...@minerva.cis.yale.edu
WWW: http://pantheon.cis.yale.edu/~elliott
>=<>=<>=<>=<>=<>=<>=<>=<>=<>=<>=<>=<>=<>=<>=<

Michael Palmer

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Aug 13, 1998, 3:00:00 AM8/13/98
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On Thu, 13 Aug 1998 20:48:59 GMT, in soc.motss, Ken Rudolph
<ke...@thegrid.net> wrote:

>Peggy Fieland wrote:
>>
>> In article <35d27db7....@192.0.2.3>,
>> Michael Palmer <mpa...@netcom.com> wrote:
>> >The scene: wartime Paris.
>>
>> I've cast Humphrey Bogart as the man in the trenchcoat, but I haven't
>> got an actress for the babe in the black satin dress.
>>

>> Maybe I need to brush up on my old movies...
>
>Veronica Lake.

Actually--at least in soc.motss terms--I was thinking of John Dorrance
for the babe and Ned Deily for the guy.

Michael, star of stage, dream, and television

John F. Eldredge

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Aug 14, 1998, 3:00:00 AM8/14/98
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zwi...@julius.ling.ohio-state.edu (Arnold Zwicky) wrote:

>in article <6qset8$v5l$1...@camel0.mindspring.com>, steve xaos
><xa...@mindspring.com> asks:
>
> >Arnold Zwicky wrote in message
> ><6qqbnj$t...@julius.ling.ohio-state.edu>...
>
> >>in article <6q7m6v$o...@chemistry.ohio-state.edu>,
> >>bob feiertag <rfei...@chemistry.mps.ohio-state.edu> wonders:
>

> >> >Ooooh, a flying mammoth. Has Disney heard about this?
>

> >>the flying mammoth lacks the style and grace of the flying skwirl,
> >>but is on the whole much more dangerous to be around.
>
> >If for no other reason, owing to gravity?
>
>the very reason i had in mind.

Flying mammoths are potentially messier than flying "skwirls".
Remember the old rhyme,

"Birdie, birdie, in the sky,
Why'd you do that in my eye?
It's a good thing cows don't fly!"

Just think what might happen! :)
--
John F. Eldredge -- eldr...@poboxes.com
PGP key available from http://www.netforward.com/poboxes/?eldredge/
--
"There must be, not a balance of power, but a community of power;
not organized rivalries, but an organized common peace." - Woodrow Wilson

Eric Holeman

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Aug 14, 1998, 3:00:00 AM8/14/98
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In article <35d2d55c....@news.mindspring.com>,
Mike Reaser <m...@thinkagain.mindspring.com> wrote:

>>>I have only the vaguest
>>>idea who Walt Kelly might have been, and am not especially interested
>>>in knowing more
>>
>>Hmph. Illiterate Europeans.
>

>Those IE just need to Po-go-go along, don't they?

Actually, what they really need is to take a fact-finding trip to Walla
Walla, Wash. and Kalamazoo.

--
--------
Eric Holeman Chicago, Illinois USA
"...the most powerful emotion in American political life is the undying
hatred of certain whites for all blacks."--Gore Vidal

a flying squirrel

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Aug 22, 1998, 3:00:00 AM8/22/98
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eldr...@poboxes.com (John F. Eldredge) wrote:

> Flying mammoths are potentially messier than flying "skwirls".

This flying skwirl was "potentially messy" only once: it involved nasty
headwinds, ice on the wings, and vomiting passengers. Nearly flew into a
cumulogranite cloud (Hi, Sim!).

But the real purpose of this message: public thanks to Arnold for the
lovely framed map of France that arrived on our doorstep yesterday. I am
quite enthralled (and was, frankly, a little choked up for a variety of
reasons). It shall rest not far from several old engravings of flying
squirrels that I found along the banks of the Seine or received as a
gift.

It could not have arrived at a better time, as we have no walls to hang it
on in half the house (waterproofing and insulation, thanks to El Niño (Hi,
Sim!)). So after the butch construction workers hang the sheetrock, tape
and texture their work, we paint. And paint. And paint. And carpet.
And furnish. And then the map will be placed on the wall.

We now return you to our regularly-scheduled discourse.
--
skw...@yahoo.com Richard W. Johnson

Michael Thomas

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Aug 23, 1998, 3:00:00 AM8/23/98
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skw...@yahoo.com (a flying squirrel) writes:
> This flying skwirl was "potentially messy" only once: it involved nasty
> headwinds, ice on the wings, and vomiting passengers. Nearly flew into a
> cumulogranite cloud (Hi, Sim!).

Are those the kind of clouds where you ask:

"Why don't those goats have harps and wings?"
--
Michael Thomas (mi...@mtcc.com http://www.mtcc.com/~mike/)
"I dunno, that's an awful lot of money."
Beavis

XAOS

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Aug 24, 1998, 3:00:00 AM8/24/98
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a flying squirrel wrote in message ...

>eldr...@poboxes.com (John F. Eldredge) wrote:
>
>> Flying mammoths are potentially messier than flying "skwirls".
>
>This flying skwirl was "potentially messy" only once: it involved
nasty
>headwinds, ice on the wings, and vomiting passengers.

Only once? I believe I have a counterexample that does not involve
ice or vomit...

- Steve

Derik K Cowan

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Aug 24, 1998, 3:00:00 AM8/24/98
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Ken Rudolph (ke...@thegrid.net) wrote:
: Peggy Fieland wrote:
: >
: > In article <35d27db7....@192.0.2.3>,
: > Michael Palmer <mpa...@netcom.com> wrote:
: > >The scene: wartime Paris.
: >
: > I've cast Humphrey Bogart as the man in the trenchcoat, but I haven't
: > got an actress for the babe in the black satin dress.
: >
: > Maybe I need to brush up on my old movies...
:
: Veronica Lake.
:
Unfortunately, you're right, but I was *so* hoping it would be Marlene
Dietrich.

Derik, also contemplating the pleasures of Mae West in the role...

--
Derik K Cowan Jesus was way cool.
de...@mtcc.com No wonder there are so many Christians
www.amherst.edu/~dkcowan -Kingmissile

a flying squirrel

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Aug 30, 1998, 3:00:00 AM8/30/98
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"XAOS" <xa...@mindspring.com> wrote:

> Only once? I believe I have a counterexample that does not involve
> ice or vomit...

"Potentially" was the operative word here, hon.

zac...@my-dejanews.com

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Sep 2, 1998, 3:00:00 AM9/2/98
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In article <35ca6...@news.mediacity.com>,

"Fred Flinstone" <Fr...@Bedrock.com> wrote:
>
> Try going to http://www.venusii.com
>
> The updated version is now called the Venus 2000, and it rocks.
>
> Fred.
>
> Ricardo wrote in message <35C23C...@itsa.ucsf.edu>...
> >Does anyone here remember an inflatable j/o device called the
> >Accujack that was big in the late 70's? Does anyone know why
> >it's no longer on the market? I'd buy one in a minute!
> >They are quite effective between 2 men!
>
>

Are you sure you are not thinking of a Jac-Pak II sold by Jac-Masters, Inc.
of Los Angeles? It was an inflatable dual chamber unit that came with a
vibrator and a sample of Jac-ream lubricant.

-----== Posted via Deja News, The Leader in Internet Discussion ==-----
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feelg...@gmail.com

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The aforementioned j/o device was made in the '70's. For The current incarnation do a search on "Venus 2000". There's also a nice page on the history of the device. Good luck!

Tom Hawk

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Jul 31, 1998, 3:00:00 AM7/31/98
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Ricardo wrote:
>
> Does anyone here remember an inflatable j/o device called the
> Accujack that was big in the late 70's? Does anyone know why
> it's no longer on the market? I'd buy one in a minute!
> They are quite effective between 2 men!

Check out Catalog X at

http://www.catalogx.com/index1.shtml

HTH

Tom

Lee Rudolph

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m...@panix.com (Michael L. Siemon) writes:

>In article <6ptkv5$p...@panix3.panix.com>, lrud...@panix.com (Lee Rudolph)
>wrote:
>
>+ The law, which took effect July 1, makes it a misdemeanor in
>+ Alabama to distribute ``any device designed or marketed as useful
>+ primarily for the stimulation of human genital organs.''
>+...
>+
>+Next, the twelves table goes, I guess.
>
>??? Is *that* why my elementary school "education" only went up to the
>tens table? I guess you gotta be pretty young, for 12 * 7 to cause DHL
>(or am I missing the point of the math reference in another thread? :-))

Stimulation is an axis.

Lee Rudolph

Michael L. Siemon

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In article <6ptkv5$p...@panix3.panix.com>, lrud...@panix.com (Lee Rudolph)
wrote:

+ The law, which took effect July 1, makes it a misdemeanor in
+ Alabama to distribute ``any device designed or marketed as useful
+ primarily for the stimulation of human genital organs.''
+...
+
+Next, the twelves table goes, I guess.

??? Is *that* why my elementary school "education" only went up to the
tens table? I guess you gotta be pretty young, for 12 * 7 to cause DHL
(or am I missing the point of the math reference in another thread? :-))

--
Michael L. Siemon m...@panix.com

"Green is the night, green kindled and apparelled.
It is she that walks among astronomers."
-- Wallace Stevens

Ken Rudolph

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Jul 31, 1998, 3:00:00 AM7/31/98
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Ricardo wrote:
>
> Does anyone here remember an inflatable j/o device called the
> Accujack that was big in the late 70's? Does anyone know why
> it's no longer on the market? I'd buy one in a minute!
> They are quite effective between 2 men!

Or for that matter, plugged into the car's cigarette lighter. I
never used one myself; but I had a good friend who used to apply the
accujack while driving around town.

--Ken Rudolph

Ricardo

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Lee Rudolph

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Ken Rudolph <ke...@thegrid.net> writes:

>Or for that matter, plugged into the car's cigarette lighter. I
>never used one myself; but I had a good friend who used to apply the
>accujack while driving around town.

Just as long as he doesn't drive into Alabama, apparently. From
the AP wire, July 31, 1998:

Ala. Women Sue Over Sex Toy Ban

BIRMINGHAM, Ala. (AP) -- A group of women have filed a federal
lawsuit to block a new Alabama law that bans the sale of sex
toys, arguing the law violates their right to privacy.
...


The law, which took effect July 1, makes it a misdemeanor in

Alabama to distribute ``any device designed or marketed as useful

primarily for the stimulation of human genital organs.''

...

Next, the twelves table goes, I guess.

Lee Rudolph

Robert S. Coren

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Aug 1, 1998, 3:00:00 AM8/1/98
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In article <35C24849...@thegrid.net>,

Ken Rudolph <ke...@thegrid.net> wrote:
>Ricardo wrote:
>>
>> Does anyone here remember an inflatable j/o device called the
>> Accujack that was big in the late 70's? Does anyone know why
>> it's no longer on the market? I'd buy one in a minute!
>> They are quite effective between 2 men!
>
>Or for that matter, plugged into the car's cigarette lighter. I
>never used one myself; but I had a good friend who used to apply the
>accujack while driving around town.

I wonder about the relationship between the AccuJack (for which I now
remember seeing ads in days gone by) with the AutoSuck that Will,
Jeremy, John and I saw in the sex shop in Provincetown some 19 months
ago.
--
-------Robert Coren (co...@spdcc.com)-------------------------
"Compared to my lover, toilet paper looks trivial, but I have
no intention of giving it up."
--John Whiteside

Michael L. Siemon

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Aug 1, 1998, 3:00:00 AM8/1/98
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In article <Xoww1.3620$AI4.13...@ptah.visi.com>, n...@visi.com (Ned
Deily) wrote:

+*Axes*. Stimulation is complex with both real and imaginary parts.
+Recall Levine's Lust Theorem:
+ H = f(D,L)
+ whose proof is left as an exercise to the reader.
+
+Your eigenvalue may vary.

How very characteristic...

Unknown

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On Sat, 01 Aug 1998 02:11:31 GMT, in soc.motss, ital...@hotmail.com
wrote:

>In article <35C23C...@itsa.ucsf.edu>,


> sal...@itsa.ucsf.edu wrote:
>
>> Does anyone here remember an inflatable j/o device called the
>> Accujack that was big in the late 70's? Does anyone know why
>> it's no longer on the market? I'd buy one in a minute!
>> They are quite effective between 2 men!
>

><sigh> I was a 20yo Air Force buck sargeant visiting Denver Colorado when I
>had my first (and last) experience with this device during a stay at a
>friend's house.
>
>Now I can't read a porno story involving farmboys, barns, & milking machines
>without getting a painful erection, only to be lost to a simultaneous fit of
>uncontrollable giggling. :) :)

TMIQ to me: "Where on *earth* did you learn to do *that*?!"

Me: Twelve summers on the farm.

*Real* farmboys don't need milking machines.


Michael, champion milker, San Diego County Fair, June 1996


>--
>Steve Giammarco
>ital...@hotmail.com


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Ned Deily

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Lee Rudolph:
>Michael Siemon:

>>??? Is *that* why my elementary school "education" only went up to the
>>tens table? I guess you gotta be pretty young, for 12 * 7 to cause DHL
>>(or am I missing the point of the math reference in another thread? :-))
>Stimulation is an axis.

*Axes*. Stimulation is complex with both real and imaginary parts.

Recall Levine's Lust Theorem:
H = f(D,L)


whose proof is left as an exercise to the reader.

Your eigenvalue may vary.

--
Ned Deily,
n...@visi.com -- []

ital...@hotmail.com

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Aug 1, 1998, 3:00:00 AM8/1/98
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> Does anyone here remember an inflatable j/o device called the
> Accujack that was big in the late 70's? Does anyone know why
> it's no longer on the market? I'd buy one in a minute!
> They are quite effective between 2 men!

<sigh> I was a 20yo Air Force buck sargeant visiting Denver Colorado when I
had my first (and last) experience with this device during a stay at a
friend's house.

Now I can't read a porno story involving farmboys, barns, & milking machines
without getting a painful erection, only to be lost to a simultaneous fit of
uncontrollable giggling. :) :)

DRS

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ital...@hotmail.com wrote in message <6pttgj$ajj$1...@nnrp1.dejanews.com>...
:In article <35C23C...@itsa.ucsf.edu>,

: sal...@itsa.ucsf.edu wrote:
:
:> Does anyone here remember an inflatable j/o device called the
:> Accujack that was big in the late 70's? Does anyone know why
:> it's no longer on the market? I'd buy one in a minute!
:> They are quite effective between 2 men!
:
:<sigh> I was a 20yo Air Force buck sargeant visiting Denver Colorado when I
:had my first (and last) experience with this device during a stay at a
:friend's house.
:
:Now I can't read a porno story involving farmboys, barns, & milking
machines
:without getting a painful erection, only to be lost to a simultaneous fit
of
:uncontrollable giggling. :) :)


Please, enlighten us foreigners who have no knowledge of this wondrous
device.

--

Beware of the Spam-Dog

Steve Teeter

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Aug 2, 1998, 3:00:00 AM8/2/98
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Tom Hawk wrote in message <35C26F...@ix.netcom.com>...

>Ricardo wrote:
>>
>> Does anyone here remember an inflatable j/o device called the
>> Accujack that was big in the late 70's? Does anyone know why
>> it's no longer on the market? I'd buy one in a minute!
>> They are quite effective between 2 men!
>
>Check out Catalog X at
>
>http://www.catalogx.com/index1.shtml
>
>HTH
>
>Tom

Tom, I would like very much to check it out, but I can't make contact. Has
this site gone belly up? If you find where they've wandered off to, please
let us know.

turb...@neosoft.com

Steve Teeter

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Aug 2, 1998, 3:00:00 AM8/2/98
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Ricardo wrote in message <35C3F320...@pacbell.net>...
> The AccuJack was a simple inflatable device that allowed you (and a
>friend) to stick your cocks into a center hole that, depending on how
>much air had been inflated into it, would tighten accordingly. The more
>air, the tighter the hole would become. Jack Wrangler was a spokesman
>for the device, I remember. Used it in a few "Demo" films.
> The plastic used could withstand simple water-based lube such as KY,
>and when TWO men were using it (facing each other), you would get the
>added benefit of both your cocks rubbing together within this tight,
>moist sleeve. I had many pleasurable experiences with this (conversation
>piece) tool, that is until the day that my friend BIG DICKED JAMES
>caused it to blow a flat.... sigh. ;)
>It would be a wonderful tool in todays' atmosphere of "Safe Sex".
>

Agreed, but we're getting our terminology confused here. The inflatable
thingie you stuck your dick into was called a JacPac, not an AccuJac. The
AccuJac was a much more expensive device, basically a sleeve attached by
tubing to an electric air pump, that would create some sort of in-n-out
suction at varying speeds. It cost about $150, I believe. I have had no
experience with it, but I did read a review by a guy who had taken one out
for a test drive. Seems it did do the job, but was strictly for those who
live alone. Otherwise, you'd slip off upstairs for a little private Quality
Time, just you, your hardon, and your AccuJac, and the damn thing would make
such a loud thump-thump-thump that everyone in the house would be looking up
at the ceiling and thinking, "Hmph, Steve's at it again."

But the JacPac I did have, and I *loved* it. It truly felt terrific to fuck
that little thing, and the first orgasm I had with it was almost
unbelieveable. Sadly, it's only fault was that sooner or later a seam would
pop, and it wouldn't keep up the pressure. At just the *wrong* moment,
too!!

I will check out the website mentioned, but I haven't seen one for sale for
at least ten years. A pity, because it *is* perfect for safe sex play, and
I too would buy one in a minute, given a chance. Hell, I'd buy three.

turb...@neosoft.com


Clayton Colwell

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Aug 3, 1998, 3:00:00 AM8/3/98
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Michael L. Siemon (m...@panix.com) wrote:
: In article <Xoww1.3620$AI4.13...@ptah.visi.com>, n...@visi.com (Ned
: Deily) wrote:

: +*Axes*. Stimulation is complex with both real and imaginary parts.
: +Recall Levine's Lust Theorem:
: + H = f(D,L)
: + whose proof is left as an exercise to the reader.
: +
: +Your eigenvalue may vary.

: How very characteristic...

So, at the highest positive imaginary values, H is at its most erect.
Likewise, H is at its most flaccid at the highest negative
imaginary values.

So, if it's not left to the imagination....

****** Clay Colwell (aka StealthSmurf) ********** er...@bga.com ******
* "In the future, we will recognize software crashes as technologically *
* mandated ergonomic rest breaks - and we will pay extra for them." *
* -- Crazy Uncle Joe Hannibal *

Clayton Colwell

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Jess Anderson (ande...@ambach.macc.wisc.edu) wrote:
: Lee Rudolph:

: >Next, the twelves table goes, I guess.

: That might be appropriate if it gets up to 12 x 12, which is gross.

I dunno. Sounds like a pretty square deal to me.

Clayton Colwell

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Steve Teeter (turb...@neosoft.com) wrote:

: I will check out the website mentioned, but I haven't seen one for sale for


: at least ten years. A pity, because it *is* perfect for safe sex play, and
: I too would buy one in a minute, given a chance. Hell, I'd buy three.

Slut. :-)

XAOS

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Jess Anderson wrote in message
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>Lee Rudolph:
>
>>Next, the twelves table goes, I guess.
>
>That might be appropriate if it gets up to 12 x 12, which is gross.


If you stop there, you'll never score

- Steve

--
"I'm looking for a man who knows the rules of the game
Who's able to forget them to realize my aim."
- Front 242, "Headhunter v3.0"


Clayton Colwell

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FafnirSuglingsheim wrote:
: On Sat, 01 Aug 1998 02:11:31 GMT, in soc.motss, ital...@hotmail.com
: wrote:

: ><sigh> I was a 20yo Air Force buck sargeant visiting Denver Colorado when I


: >had my first (and last) experience with this device during a stay at a
: >friend's house.
: >
: >Now I can't read a porno story involving farmboys, barns, & milking machines
: >without getting a painful erection, only to be lost to a simultaneous fit of
: >uncontrollable giggling. :) :)

Yoicks! Shades of "A Boy And His Dog"!

: TMIQ to me: "Where on *earth* did you learn to do *that*?!"

: Me: Twelve summers on the farm.

You better give details *real* quick, lest we believe the sheep
were scared.

: *Real* farmboys don't need milking machines.

: Michael, champion milker, San Diego County Fair, June 1996

Cue the "Already got a pint-and-a-half" Sophie Tucker joke music.

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