The ANTI-GAY BIGOT celebrities LIST (Updated)
lac...@webtv.net
WILLIE AAMES - Known for his role as the second
eldest son on "Eight is Enough" and as Scott
Baio's sidekick on "Charles in Charge". Willie
is now a supporter of Pat Robertson's 700 Club.
KIM ALEXIS - The former fitness guru is now a
frequent guest on Pat Robertson's 700 Club and
speaker at the Republican Party. She now does
commercials for "Monistat-3".
FRED BERRY - You may remember him as "Re-Run
from the 70's TV show "Whats Happening". For
awhile, he was a "Born again" Christian rap
artist, but he then went into catering for
parties and was recently in a physical fight
over a catering dispute. He is also a supporter
of Pat Robertson's 700 Club. It's also amazing
that with all this talk about "Family Values"
and the "Promise Keepers", that Fred Berry
abandoned his son for many years (would Dan
Quayle approve of that???)
TIFFANY BRISSETTE - Known for her role as a Girl Robot on the 1980's
syndicated comedy "Small Wonder" is now a supporter of the 700 Club.
KIRK CAMERON - The former "Growing Pains" star who played the rebellious
teen "Mike Seaver" is a supporter of Pat Robertsons 700 Club. While on
the 700 Club, Mr. Cameron had the nerve to criticize "Married with
Children" for being an anti-values sitcom (perhaps Mr. Cameron should
watch "Growing Pains" again and look at some of the mischief that his
"Mike Seaver" has done). Kirk also tried to do another show on the WB
network called "Kirk", but it was recently cancelled.
TONY DANZA - This former star of "Taxi", and "Who's the Boss" recently
stated on a talk show that he believed that Ellen Degeneres and Anne
Hashe's kissing in public was "slimy" and that he didn't want his
children exposed to "that kind of stuff". Is Mr. Danza worried about his
children watching the "sexual inuendo" he was involved in on "Whos the
Boss"?? Where he was flirting with his boss (Judith Light) who was still
married for the first year and a half of the series, and flirting with
his bosses sex-pot mother (Katherine Helmond). Mr. Danza now has another
sitcom on NBC which is rumored to have failing ratings (oh that's why he
mad at Ellen).
SHANNEN DOERTY - The former star on "Beverly Hills 90210" is a stanch
conservative republican just like her TV mom Carol Potter. Ms. Doerty was
proven to be a Hypocrite when she divorced her husband Ashley Hamilton
(son of the deeply tanned George Hamilton) after only being married to
him for two (2) weeks (wow, talk about "Family Values")
BOB DYLAN - Former 1970's rock artist who became a Fundementalist
Christian after a auto accident over 20 years ago is a supporter of the
700 Club and a Christian rock artist.
KIM FIELDS - Formerly known as "Tooty" on "Facts of Life", she is a
supporter of Pat Robertson's 700 Club and now stars on her new sitcom
"Living Single" on FOX television.
ANNETTE FUNICELLO - This former Mousketeer now
spends her time boycotting the company she once
worked for, Disney.
AMY GRANT - Former Gospel artist who turned Pop artist with songs like
"Baby Baby" and her current hit "It Takes a Little Time" is also a
supporter of Pat Robertson's 700 Club. In 1991, Amy Grant came under fire
from some in the Fundementalist community because she was singing
"worldly" songs instead of the Christian songs she used to sing. There
is even a website where one Fundementalist Christian bashes Amy Grant and
other "Christian Rock Artist" for their "straying from Christianity"
http://www.av1611.org/crock.html
Still most in the Fundementalist Community still support her, no matter
what kind of music she sings.
AL GREEN - Best known for his 1970's R&B hit
"Let's stay together", Al Green is now a Gospel
Artist and a supporter of Pat Robertson's 700
Club.
GRANT GOODEVE - Mr. Goodeve portrayed the eldest brother on the 1970's
family sitcon "Eight is Enough". Several years later, he played a Gay
attorney on "Dynasty". Mr Goodeve is now a supporter of Pat Robertson's
700 Club and sometimes hosts the show when Pat is away on vacation.
MICHAEL GROSS - The former father on the 1980's
sitcom "Family Ties" is now a supporter of Pat
Robertson's 700 Club and does work for a
Right-Wing organization that claims to be
feeding children in 3rd world countries.
M.C. HAMMER - Best known for his 1990 hit rap song "You can't touch this"
(a ripoff of the transgendered Rick James "Superfreak"). M.C. Hammer is
now a supporter of Pat Robertson's 700 Club and was a Christian Rap
artist until he was denounced by some of the Fundementalist for his
explicid lyrics in a song called "She's soft and wet". M.C. Hammer
recently changed his music to a "Hard Core" sound to compete with rap
artists like "Puff Daddy" and "WuTang Clan", but he still holds on to his
Fundementalist Christian Faith.
CHARELTON HESTON - Known for his role as "Moses" in many religious films
and as Alexis Colby's brother-in-law on "Dynasty". Mr. Heston is a
supporter of Pat Robertson's 700 Club and the Christian Coalition (not to
mention a member of the NRA).
HULK HOGAN - Former WWF wrestler who was
seriously hurt during a match and sent to the
hospital several years ago where he was
converted to Fundementalist Christianity is now
a supporter of Pat Robertsons 700 Club.
ANN JILLIAN - Movie actress who played a ghost
in a 1980's short-lived comedy sitcom is a
supporter of Pat Robertson's 700 Club
SHIRLEY JONES - The "mom" on the 1970's family sitcom "The Partridge
Family" is now a supporter of Pat Robertson's 700 Club.
THE JUDDS (NAOMI and WYNONNA) - This
mother-daughter duo has appeared numerous times
on the 700 Club. And since Wynonna is a
supporter of the 700 Club, when she had a "out
of wedlock" pregnancy, her support of the 700
Club saved her from the same criticism that
"Murphy Brown" recieved several years ago.
JACK LaLANNE - Former fitness trainer and former owner of "Bally Total
Fitness" (he doesn't own it anymore, DON'T cancell your memberships). Mr.
LaLanne is a supporter of Pat Robertson's 700 Club.
ART LINKLETTER - The former host of "Kids say
the Darnest things" is a supporter of Pat
Robertsons 700 Club and sometimes does
commercials for mattres companies.
ROGER McGUINN - Former lead vocal of the 1960's rock group "The Byrds"
known for their hit "Turn Turn Turn (There is a season)". Roger McGuinn
is a supporter of Pat Robertson's 700 Club.
MELBA MOORE - Former actress and singer known
for her disco hit "You stepped into my life".
Melba Moore supported the 700 Club so much, that she ended up on welfare.
TIA & TAMARA MOWRY - These Twins who star in
their TV sitcom "Sister Sister" are also
supporters of Pat Robertson's 700 Club.
EDDIE MURPHY - Although he's not a Right-Wing Fundementalist, he still is
as anti-gay as he can be. This former stand-up comedian turned actor has
done many anti-gay stand up acts, many of them can be found on records
and tapes. Eddie was recently caught driving a transexual prostitute in
his car and he denied that he ever did anything sexual with her/him.
CAROL POTTER - She plays the "mom" on "Beverly
Hills 90210". She is also a supporter of Pat
Robertson's 700 Club.
THE PROCLAIMERS - The twin brothers known for
their 1993 hit "I'm gonna be (500 Miles)" are
also supporters of the 700 Club.
REV. RUN - Former Rapper for the 1980's rap
group "RUN D.M.C." known for their hit "Walk
this way" (which they copied from Aerosmith).
Rev. Run is now a Fundementalist Christian
minister who now does Christian Rap music.
FRED ROGERS - Host of the PBS Childrens show
"Mr. Rogers Neighborhood" where he constantly
changes his shoes is now a supporter of Pat
Robertson's 700 Club.
JAKE ROSNER - Fitenss Guru who has his own show called "Body by Jake" is
also a supporter of the 700 Club and once had a short-lived sitcom on the
Family Channel.
SMOKEY ROBINSON - Smokey started singing with the "Miracles" in the
1950's with hits like "Shop around" and "Tears like a clown". he became a
Fundementalist Christian after a battle with Drug Abuse in the late 80's.
Smokey is now a supporter of the 700 Club.
DR. LAURA SCHLESSINGER - Radio talk show host
who gives out relationship and romance advice
has expressed the Gay "Lifestyle" as abnormal.
Dr. Laura, who talks alot about "Family Values"
hasn't spoken to her mother in over 10 years
(What a hypocrite).
DONNA SUMMER - this Disco Diva of the 1970's became a Fundementalist
Christian in the early 80's and allegedly made a statement saying that
"God put the AIDS virus on earth to punish people for their
Homosexuality" Ms. Summer first denied that she made the statement, then
she said that if she did make that statement, then she apologizes for it.
She must have figured out that Gay people were buying most of her
records.
MR. T - Known for his Mohawk Haircut, gold
chains and his role on the NBC hit show "The
A-Team" during the 1980's. Mr. T is now a
supporter of Pat Robertson's 700 Club.
NEDRA TALLEY - Former vocalist for the 1960's rock-n-roll group "The
Ronnettes" with her cousin Ronnie Spector known for their hit "Be my
little Baby". Nedra is now married to Fundementalist music critic Scott
Ross and is a supporter of the 700 Club.
KATHY TRICCOLI - Known for her 1992 Dance hit "Everything Changes" which
unfortuneately was played in many Gay Dance clubs. Miss Triccoli is a
supporter of Pat Robertson's 700 Club.
VANITY aka DENISE SMITH - Known for her 1980's R&B hit "Nasty Girls".
Vanity ran to Fundementalist Christianity after she was dumped by her
ex-boyfriend The Artist (Formerly known as Prince). She now records
Gospel music and dedicates her life to fighting sinners (like us in the
Gay community).
DAVE THOMAS - the Founder of Wendy's resturants is a supporter of Pat
Robertson's 700 Club, plus recently Dave Thomas pulled Wendy's ads from
the Ellen show because he didn't want people to think that his
resturaunts were filled with a bunch of "Homo's"
DENISE WILLIAMS - Known for her 1984 R&B Dance hit "Let's Hear It For The
Boy". Denise is now a Gospel singer and a supporter of Pat Robertson's
700 Club and sometimes hist's the show with him when Terry Meusem is on
vacation.
DEMAND WILSON - Best known for his role as Redd
Foxx son "Lamont" on "Sanford & Son" Demand is
now a Right-Wing Fundementalist minister and a
supporter of the 700 Club.
ANGIE & DEBBIE WINANS - younger sisters of the Gospel duo "BeBe & CeCe
Winans" Recently Angie & Debbie recorded and released a anti-Gay song
called "It's not natural" which has very anti-Gay lyrics.
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I gotta correct you on a pretty major issue...
Bob Dylan is no longer a Christian...he's gone back
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Christopher W. Chase
lac...@webtv.net wrote in article <882389140...@dejanews.com>...
Christopher's Commentary---
> KIM ALEXIS - The former fitness guru is now a
> frequent guest on Pat Robertson's 700 Club and
> speaker at the Republican Party. She now does
> commercials for "Monistat-3".
Maybe she got "discharged" from the Democratic
Party awhile back.
(don't flame me....I know this is bad, but I
couldn't help it. It's too funny--at least to me.)
[snip]
> FRED BERRY - You may remember him as "Re-Run
> from the 70's TV show "Whats Happening". For
> awhile, he was a "Born again" Christian rap
> artist, but he then went into catering for
> parties and was recently in a physical fight
> over a catering dispute. He is also a supporter
> of Pat Robertson's 700 Club. It's also amazing
> that with all this talk about "Family Values"
> and the "Promise Keepers", that Fred Berry
> abandoned his son for many years (would Dan
> Quayle approve of that???)
RERUN still kicks ASS! Man that had the coolest theme
song of the 70's, except maybe for "Good Times."
[snip]
> KIRK CAMERON - The former "Growing Pains" star who played the rebellious
> teen "Mike Seaver" is a supporter of Pat Robertsons 700 Club. While on
> the 700 Club, Mr. Cameron had the nerve to criticize "Married with
> Children" for being an anti-values sitcom (perhaps Mr. Cameron should
> watch "Growing Pains" again and look at some of the mischief that his
> "Mike Seaver" has done). Kirk also tried to do another show on the WB
> network called "Kirk", but it was recently cancelled.
So I guess he's back to dishwashing. Just like before.
[snip]
> AMY GRANT - Former Gospel artist who turned Pop artist with songs like
> "Baby Baby" and her current hit "It Takes a Little Time" is also a
> supporter of Pat Robertson's 700 Club. In 1991, Amy Grant came under fire
> from some in the Fundementalist community because she was singing
> "worldly" songs instead of the Christian songs she used to sing. There
> is even a website where one Fundementalist Christian bashes Amy Grant and
> other "Christian Rock Artist" for their "straying from Christianity"
>
> http://www.av1611.org/crock.html
I have to admit though, that the video for
"Every Heartbeat Belongs To You." that
aired ubiquitously on MTV was pretty cool.
Especially the part with the Dalmatian dog
and the black polka-dotted white dress she
was wearing.
[snip]
> M.C. HAMMER - Best known for his 1990 hit rap song "You can't touch this"
> (a ripoff of the transgendered Rick James "Superfreak"). M.C. Hammer is
> now a supporter of Pat Robertson's 700 Club and was a Christian Rap
> artist until he was denounced by some of the Fundementalist for his
> explicid lyrics in a song called "She's soft and wet".
So I guess Christian women can't be "soft" and "wet" in
all the right places? Too bad. No wonder all the
Christian guys are venting their testosterone here.
[snip]
> CHARELTON HESTON - Known for his role as "Moses" in many religious films
> and as Alexis Colby's brother-in-law on "Dynasty". Mr. Heston is a
> supporter of Pat Robertson's 700 Club and the Christian Coalition (not to
> mention a member of the NRA).
Still though, you've got to admire a guy who
has kicked so much *ss all over the Universe,
from Egypt to The Planet of the Apes to
Moor Spain (El Cid) to Greece (Spartacus)
[snip]
>
> HULK HOGAN - Former WWF wrestler who was
> seriously hurt during a match and sent to the
> hospital several years ago where he was
> converted to Fundementalist Christianity is now
> a supporter of Pat Robertsons 700 Club.
He was cool as a guest on Space Ghost Coast
-to-Coast, though.
[snip]
> THE PROCLAIMERS - The twin brothers known for
> their 1993 hit "I'm gonna be (500 Miles)" are
> also supporters of the 700 Club.
And modeling for Dilbert cartoons.
[snip]
> FRED ROGERS - Host of the PBS Childrens show
> "Mr. Rogers Neighborhood" where he constantly
> changes his shoes is now a supporter of Pat
> Robertson's 700 Club.
I don't care!
I -Still- want a trolley like that!
[snip]
> DR. LAURA SCHLESSINGER - Radio talk show host
> who gives out relationship and romance advice
> has expressed the Gay "Lifestyle" as abnormal.
> Dr. Laura, who talks alot about "Family Values"
> hasn't spoken to her mother in over 10 years
> (What a hypocrite).
Saw her on Tom Snyder this summer. Had a gay male caller
try to take her to task, but the caller was even stupider
than she was.
[snip]
> MR. T - Known for his Mohawk Haircut, gold
> chains and his role on the NBC hit show "The
> A-Team" during the 1980's. Mr. T is now a
> supporter of Pat Robertson's 700 Club.
So what? Who gives a rat's *ss what the hell Mr.T
has been doing? I pity the fool that ever
took him seriously!
[snip]
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Paul Rogers
Sorry for being naive, but WHAT exactly is the 700 club?
And does this list imply all the people on it are homophobic!
Sorry, my brain aint working well today
Paul Rogers
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D Lewis
Paul Rogers <pro...@argonet.co.uk> writes:
>Sorry for being naive, but WHAT exactly is the 700 club?
>
>And does this list imply all the people on it are homophobic!
bought a bankrupt UHF TV station in Virginia Beach in the 1960s and
began "The 700 Club" as a nightly religious talk show (so named
after the 700 contributors who contributed x amount of dollars a month).
When cable systems began carrying TV programs off satellites, Robertson
used the show as the centerpiece of CBN (Christian Broadcasting Network),
which evolved into the Family Channel when someone realized that more
people watch regular TV than religious shows. But throughout Robertson's
ownership of the Family Channel, the 10 p.m. timeperiod each day was
reserved for "The 700 Club" so that "the lost" among the nation's
cable services would be exposed to the gospel. Even when Robertson sold
the Family Channel to Rupert Murdoch, he assured the faithful that
Murdoch would keep "The 700 Club" in prime time. Check today's TV
schedule ... "The 700 Club" has been bumped out of prime time and now
airs after 11 p.m. (ET), if it hasn't been pre-empted. (Good ole'
Rupert!)
--DSL
Adam Levenstein
Paul Rogers wrote:
>
> Sorry for being naive, but WHAT exactly is the 700 club?
>
> And does this list imply all the people on it are homophobic!
>
>
> Paul Rogers
>
700 Club is an ultrarightist "religious" show in the
United States. The main guy is a preacher named Pat
Robertson, founder of the "Christian Coalition," an
ultra-right political lobbying group.
Yes, I would say that everyone on it is homophobic.
Rev. Pat goes on about gays routinely, about how
much "evil" they've done to "society's morals."
The CC is reknowned for putting forth a blatant
anti-gay-rights agenda aimed at "outlawing"
homosexuality (kinda like outlawing Tuesday, huh
Ward <Grin).
Jenner
On Wed, 17 Dec 1997 14:41:16 -0600, lac...@webtv.net wrote:
: GRANT GOODEVE - Mr. Goodeve portrayed the eldest brother on the 1970's
: family sitcon "Eight is Enough". Several years later, he played a Gay
: attorney on "Dynasty". Mr Goodeve is now a supporter of Pat Robertson's
: 700 Club and sometimes hosts the show when Pat is away on vacation.
This guy is currently hosting Seattle's "Evening Magazine" on TV.
He's not very good.
: CHARELTON HESTON - Known for his role as "Moses" in many religious films
: and as Alexis Colby's brother-in-law on "Dynasty". Mr. Heston is a
: supporter of Pat Robertson's 700 Club and the Christian Coalition (not to
: mention a member of the NRA).
Oh, my, *ghod*. Moses is in the NRA. It is well known that Moses is
a fundamentalist bigot and homophobic to boot (I wonder if he is aware
of the gushing homoeroticism in scenes between him and his pal when he
filmed Ben Hur?). However, aside form libberals vs konservatives, I
don't see how his new hobby (first president of the NRA) has anything
to do with this post.
"Queers carry too." -- me, at the Seattle Gun show to an NRA booth
person.
Thanks for the list, though.
-- jenner
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Ward Stewart
Adam Levenstein <aml...@email.psu.edu> wrote:
>~Paul Rogers wrote:
>~>
>~> Sorry for being naive, but WHAT exactly is the 700 club?
>~>
>~> And does this list imply all the people on it are homophobic!
>~>
>~> Sorry, my brain aint working well today
>~>
>~> Paul Rogers
>~>
>~700 Club is an ultrarightist "religious" show in the
>~United States. The main guy is a preacher named Pat
>~Robertson, founder of the "Christian Coalition," an
>~ultra-right political lobbying group.
>~Yes, I would say that everyone on it is homophobic.
>~Rev. Pat goes on about gays routinely, about how
>~much "evil" they've done to "society's morals."
>~The CC is reknowned for putting forth a blatant
>~anti-gay-rights agenda aimed at "outlawing"
>~homosexuality (kinda like outlawing Tuesday, huh
>~Ward <Grin).
Indeed! -- he has further decided that God is a Republican and a
conservative Republican at that. It is not a matter of a preacher
speaking out on one or another political issue, it is a blanket
endorsement of ALL Republicans with the exception of the Log Cabin
Naughties.
The picture of the deity as a ward-heeler presiding in the smoke
filled rooms of the Nixon administration or the kleptocracy of the
"Reagan Revolution," surpasses the usual levels of folly!
ward
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"I am constantly mystified by this notion of "disagreeing"
with homosexuality -- not unlike disagreeing with Tuesday --
like it or not, every seven days, there it is -- TUESDAY.
uncle ward
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D Lewis
Jenner <**jenn...@mail.idt.net**> writes:
>On Wed, 17 Dec 1997 14:41:16 -0600, lac...@webtv.net wrote:
>
>
>: family sitcon "Eight is Enough". Several years later, he played a Gay
>: attorney on "Dynasty". Mr Goodeve is now a supporter of Pat Robertson's
>: 700 Club and sometimes hosts the show when Pat is away on vacation.
>
>He's not very good.
Grant Goodeve appears *naked*! (Insert demented cackle here.) I keep it
under my mattress, and on the label I've written "Grant Goodeve's butt"
in big letters so I won't forget and accidentally use it to tape
something like "Sense and Sensibility."
--DSL
Paul Rogers
Right then, If you hear of any english scum that join this, or are
homophobic, please let me know so I can put it on my web site and let the
whole UK know!
Cheers
Can I put this list on my web site please!
http://www.bham.ac.uk/guild/LGB/
but take the ones I know of that are famous here in the UK, cause some of
them are not.
BTW I'm still waiting for the Ellen series for he coming out to be shown
over here, unless anyone feels like mailing it to me! (I'll pay!)
Happy christmas everyone in the world
Love Paul
Convenor of BUGS LGB Association
Arne Adolfsen
In article <19971221040...@ladder01.news.aol.com>,
JAscherMAN <jasch...@aol.com> wrote:
>I know of a British comedic actor whose name I can't recall but was dating
>Elizabeth Hurley.
Uh, Hugh Grant? Mebbe?
>I've seen him in an Ivory merchant film aboout gay love in
>the 18th century called Maurice (pronounced Morris).
*18th* century??? Rilly???
>I don't know that he
>qualifies as homophobic because he was also in Four Weddings and a Funeral
>which had a strong gay sub plot (the funeral in the title refers to the death
>of one of the partners in the gay couple).
OK, and your point is what, exactly?
>Always wear your rubbers, Boys
>- Mom
Oh, gee, *thanks*. I woulda forgotten if you hadn't reminded me.
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JAscherMAN
I know of a British comedic actor whose name I can't recall but was dating
the 18th century called Maurice (pronounced Morris). I don't know that he
qualifies as homophobic because he was also in Four Weddings and a Funeral
which had a strong gay sub plot (the funeral in the title refers to the death
of one of the partners in the gay couple).
Always wear your rubbers, Boys
- Mom
geminiwalker
lac...@webtv.net wrote:
>
>
> ANNETTE FUNICELLO - This former Mousketeer now
> spends her time boycotting the company she once
> worked for, Disney.
>
Annette! My first crush! Say it isn't so!
And I just watched her movie again on Lifetime
last night! *sigh*
...kate
Michael Thomas
geminiwalker <chu...@earthlink.net> writes:
> lac...@webtv.net wrote:
^^
You know what they say about believing everything
you see on TV.
> > ANNETTE FUNICELLO - This former Mousketeer now
> > spends her time boycotting the company she once
> > worked for, Disney.
>
> And I just watched her movie again on Lifetime
> last night! *sigh*
I dunno about you, but this clown's list
demands some attributions and documentation. It
has all the trappings of a smear job. "Watches
the 700 Club" is not sufficient reason to blacklist
somebody, IMO.
--
Michael Thomas (mi...@mtcc.com http://www.mtcc.com/~mike/)
"I dunno, that's an awful lot of money."
Beavis
lac...@webtv.net
In article <v7zpln7...@fasolt.mtcc.com>,
Michael Thomas <mi...@fasolt.mtcc.com> wrote:
> I dunno about you, but this clown's list
> demands some attributions and documentation.
> It has all the trappings of a smear job.
> "Watches the 700 Club" is not sufficient
> reason to blacklist somebody.
But when someone "supports the 700 Club financially", that is a reason.
Michael Thomas
lac...@webtv.net writes:
> In article <v7zpln7...@fasolt.mtcc.com>,
> Michael Thomas <mi...@fasolt.mtcc.com> wrote:
> > I dunno about you, but this clown's list
> > demands some attributions and documentation.
> > It has all the trappings of a smear job.
> > "Watches the 700 Club" is not sufficient
> > reason to blacklist somebody.
>
> But when someone "supports the 700 Club financially", that is a reason.
And you know this... how?
Until you post some references, this is just
unsubstantiated innuendo. Especially from somebody
who doesn't sign their posts, or have any way to
verify their being anything other than some random
hack.
And stop crossposting, dork. When I trim
newsgroups, it's not meant as a typing exercise
for you to put them back in.
Charlie Fulton
lac...@webtv.net wrote:
: What more proof do you want???? Do you want me to post copies of the
: cancelled checks made to the 700 Club by the people on my list???? Post
: ..WAV segments of their interviews with Pat Robertson??? Even if these
: people haven't given the 700 one dime, the fact that these celebrities
: are on Pat Robertsons show gives the 700 Club good ratings and makes more
: people watch his Anti-Gay bigoted show where he spews hate daily.
Do you know what the 700 means? If you don't, you don't watch enough.
Peppermint Pat was in his prime in '79. IMO. He seemed most besieged
then.
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Charlie Fulton---foultone@mtcc.com---http://www.mtcc.com/~foultone/
"Since the beginning of time, man has yearned to destroy the sun."
Montgomery Burns
lac...@webtv.net
In article <v7yb16v...@fasolt.mtcc.com>,
Michael Thomas <mi...@fasolt.mtcc.com> wrote:
>
> lac...@webtv.net writes:
> > In article <v7zpln7...@fasolt.mtcc.com>,
> > Michael Thomas <mi...@fasolt.mtcc.com> wrote:
> > > I dunno about you, but this clown's list
> > > demands some attributions and documentation.
> > > It has all the trappings of a smear job.
> > > "Watches the 700 Club" is not sufficient
> > > reason to blacklist somebody.
> >
> > But when someone "supports the 700 Club financially", that is a reason.
>
> And you know this... how?
WATCH THE DAMN SHOW !!!!!!!!!
> Until you post some references, this is just
> unsubstantiated innuendo.
What more proof do you want???? Do you want me to post copies of the
cancelled checks made to the 700 Club by the people on my list???? Post
..WAV segments of their interviews with Pat Robertson??? Even if these
people haven't given the 700 one dime, the fact that these celebrities
are on Pat Robertsons show gives the 700 Club good ratings and makes more
people watch his Anti-Gay bigoted show where he spews hate daily.
Doesn't the fact that the people on my list visit or support the 700
Club, a religious show and organization which the host constantly
degrades Gay and Lesbian people EVERYDAY by calling us "evil", "sick" and
"perverted" good enough for you??? What about the fact that these people
are involved in an orginazation that tries it's best to make sure that
Gays and Lesbians can't serve openly in the millitary, an organization
that fights against Gay & Lesbian civil rights, Gay adoption, an
organization that believes that Gays should be fired from their jobs and
be kicked out of their apartments just for being Gay???? An organization
that doesn't believe that Gay Bashing should be a Bias Crime, but should
just be treated as a regular crime?? If thats not enough "substancial
proof" for you, then I'm sorry, I can't prove it to you.
Do you have any substancial proof that the people on my list ARE NOT
"ANTI-GAY"??
I believe that the people I listed should have their feet put to the fire
and asked WHY they are involved in such an organization. If your favorite
celebrity was seen at a Klan Rally or on a Ku Klux Klan cable show,
wouldn't you want to know why they were there??????
> Especially from somebody who doesn't sign
> their posts,
When I no longer risk losing my job, being kicked out of my apartment, or
risk having the crap kicked out of me on the street, then I will GLADLY
sign my WHOLE NAME in my posts.
> or have any way to verify their being anything > other than some random hack.
I'm just a regular everyday person sharing information, I'm not a
reporter, columnist, or a journalist. Everything I post can be checked
and corrected by others.
I will keep posting my information, views, and opinions, if you don't
like them, please skip to the next article. There are poeple in these
newsgroups who appreciate this article and appreciate being informed
about who their enemies are.
> And stop crossposting, dork.
Now you want to resort to "Name Calling"?? If you can't have a
intellegent discussion based on substance like a mature adult instead of
name calling, then I do not want to participate in a discussion with you.
> When I trim newsgroups, it's not meant as a
> typing exercise for you to put them back in.
Who the heck are you to tell me where to post? I'll post anywhere I feel
like posting. The article was originally posted in 3 newsgroups and I as
the original poster want it to stay there. Who told you to trim them???
Are you trying to hide something from the people in the other 2
newsgroups?????
Michael Thomas
lac...@webtv.net writes:
> In article <v7yb16v...@fasolt.mtcc.com>,
> Michael Thomas <mi...@fasolt.mtcc.com> wrote:
> > Until you post some references, this is just
> > unsubstantiated innuendo.
>
> What more proof do you want????
"Are you now, or have you in the past been or
associated with a member of the Communist
Party?"
Lots, Mr. McCarthy.
> Do you want me to post copies of the
> cancelled checks made to the 700 Club by the people on my list???? Post
> ..WAV segments of their interviews with Pat Robertson???
A web site or printed references documenting
your claims (and not just a repost of your, er,
list) would be a start.
> Doesn't the fact that the people on my list visit or support the 700
> Club, a religious show and organization which the host constantly
> degrades Gay and Lesbian people EVERYDAY by calling us "evil", "sick" and
> "perverted" good enough for you???
We have yet to substantiate your claims. As such
this is all rather premature.
> Do you have any substancial proof that the people on my list ARE NOT
> "ANTI-GAY"??
You can't prove a negative, idiot.
> > Especially from somebody who doesn't sign
> > their posts,
>
> When I no longer risk losing my job, being kicked out of my apartment, or
> risk having the crap kicked out of me on the street, then I will GLADLY
> sign my WHOLE NAME in my posts.
"Who was that Masked Proud Queer Warrior?"
"It's Closetman!"
> I will keep posting my information, views, and opinions, if you don't
> like them, please skip to the next article. There are poeple in these
> newsgroups who appreciate this article and appreciate being informed
> about who their enemies are.
::yawn::
And I'll keep asking you back up your
assertions. If you don't, you'll have the same
credibility that a Masked Proud Queer Warrior
deserves: none.
> > When I trim newsgroups, it's not meant as a
> > typing exercise for you to put them back in.
>
> Who the heck are you to tell me where to post? I'll post anywhere I feel
> like posting. The article was originally posted in 3 newsgroups and I as
> the original poster want it to stay there. Who told you to trim them???
Get fucked, asshole. Crossposting from soc.motss
to a.p.h is specifically frowned upon in the FAQ.
If you can't bother to learn netiquette, maybe you
should just put down the keyboard and tune in Oprah
or something.
Arne Adolfsen
In article <v77m8ov...@fasolt.mtcc.com>,
Michael Thomas <mi...@fasolt.mtcc.com> wrote:
>lac...@webtv.net writes:
>> Do you have any substancial proof that the people on my list ARE NOT
>> "ANTI-GAY"??
> You can't prove a negative, idiot.
Do you get some perverse pleasure out of arguing with clucks
who have an IQ of room temperature, Mike?
>> When I no longer risk losing my job, being kicked out of my apartment, or
>> risk having the crap kicked out of me on the street, then I will GLADLY
>> sign my WHOLE NAME in my posts.
> "Who was that Masked Proud Queer Warrior?"
>
> "It's Closetman!"
I'm still mulling over the image of someone having his crap kicked
out of him on the street by a stranger because of something he posted
on Usenet.
--
-- Arne Adolfsen ------------------------------------------- ar...@mtcc.com --
David W. Fenton
Arne Adolfsen (ar...@mtcc.com) wrote:
: I'm still mulling over the image of someone having his crap kicked
: out of him on the street by a stranger because of something he posted
: on Usenet.
Would that it happened on a daily basis.
David W. Fenton |
New York University |
dfe...@bway.net | "Hitler was once a newbie."
http://www.bway.net/~dfenton | -- Jess Anderson
Arne Adolfsen
In article <68bmqd$1o5$1...@news2.xs4all.nl>,
<si...@msh.xs4all.nl> wrote:
Oooh! Another Dutch person whose ass we can kick!
>In article <688tul$4...@fasolt.mtcc.com>,
>Arne Adolfsen <ar...@mtcc.com> wrote:
>>In article <v77m8ov...@fasolt.mtcc.com>,
>>Michael Thomas <mi...@fasolt.mtcc.com> wrote:
>>> You can't prove a negative, idiot.
>>Do you get some perverse pleasure out of arguing with clucks
>>who have an IQ of room temperature, Mike?
>Are you speaking Celsius or Fahrenheit? ;-)
Fahrenheit, a'course.
[...]
>>I'm still mulling over the image of someone having his crap kicked
>>out of him on the street by a stranger because of something he posted
>>on Usenet.
>Well, some posters on some other newsgroups occasionally manage to
>raise my adrenaline level significantly. Fortunately they usually
>don't even live in the same country as I do, though.
I can get all crazy-like over Usenet stuff -- see my furious argument
with Steven Levine about the hideous Hess family's bad review of the
new biography of Julia Child in motss.food where they basically repeat
their complete miscontrual of what French cuisine is all about for one
and all to see -- but otherwise I don't get to exercised by Usenet
posts.
Unless I'm like all loaded and stuff.
Ken just turned down "Les Negresses Vertes"! -- the penalty for that
is death!!!
goo...@dylquesne.com
PRO-GAY BIGOTS
we hear the word "bigot" following "anti-gay" almost as much as we hear "woman" following the word "strong". it's like the thought-police want us to put each set of words together automatically and without thought.
now, let's put aside the fact that the lackluster physical make-ups of members of the little gender (the shorter/smaller/weaker gender) will always make a complete and total oxymoron out of the term "Strongwoman," just so we can focus on the term "anti-gay bigot". has anyone given any thought to the fact that the ones who usually utter this term are actually pro-gay bigots whose minds are totally closed-off to anything that puts homosexuality in a bad light? they are as hell-bent PRO-GAY as i am hell-bent ANTI-GAY.
pro-gay bigots run amuck in the media, just as much as the "strong women" who can't budge a 100-pound barbell. pro-gay bigots have even gone to the ridiculous extreme of editing the bible to take out every negative reference to homosexuality. now, aside from making gays seem weak enough to fall in the face of criticism, making edits of the most famous book of all time sounds quite orwellian. "you VILL not have any problems vith homosexuality, and you vill LIKE IT".
why don't pro-gay bigots make edits to the seven deadly sins - let's get PRIDE and LUST out of there and save a little more face. oh, i guess they've probably already done that.
actually, call me a bad christian, but i am one to find fault with anyone who has to get their anti-gay attitudes from any god's bible or from any other outside source, because anyone who doesn't see anything self-compromising and self-disrespecting in a "man" staring open-mouthed and wide-eyed-curious at another man has no sense of gender-identity. to borrow a phrase from a brilliantly-radiant (pun intended) stephen king novel, let me say that the respect i have for myself as a man is "all shot to shit" if i'm gawking at another masculine body. i am man enough to realize that i'm a masculivoid when i'm gawking in utmost reverence at another man's body, and it is a self-esteem issue to leave oneself feeling a void for masculinity when masculinity is what one's self IS...and has been since birth.
we don't need no bible to tell us what's wrong with homosexuality.
pro-gay bigots are so hell-bent in their close-mindedness, that they want people to buy into the whole "born this way" propaganda so that nobody has the nerve to question the legitimacy of homosexuality. i am one to believe that nobody can be "born with" an emotional desire for (or a psychological dependence on) anything, because the brain that spawns anyone's emotional desires and psychological dependences has nothing to base them on when it has just left the womb. speaking of having nothing to base anyone's sense of reality on, one would think that anyone who maintains that "a woman can do anything a man can do" must've also just been born. eureka, what do people mean when they say "do you think i was born yesterday" - they mean "do you think i have no knowledge of the world around me". come to think of it, anyone who says "do you think i was born yesterday" is homophobic because they're actually belittling people who haven't internalized their own gender's identity.
pro-gay bigots are so hell-bent in their close-mindedness that they always have something to prove to anyone who rejects their close-mindedness. what do you think "gay pride" is, and why should it so easily spawn the question "what are you trying to prove" - gay people, let's call them activists, have so much spite for and rage against reality that they should all be named mary (as in "mary, mary, quite contrary").
let me elaborate on gays' spite for reality, just for a minute or two. "aids is not a gay disease," that one just popped into my head as a mark of gays' spite for reality. i made a lot of t-shirts back in 1999, when i first started my jaggedlittledyl.com website, and one of the designs was "aids is not a gay disease...just please don't justify its epidemic status". hmn, how else are gays spiteful towards reality? well, there's the aforementioned rewrite of the bible. and there's the gay "man" (i have to put "man" in quotes when referring to a masculivoid) who had an embryo implanted inside of him. all of this is spite for reality. when it all comes down, i guess that nose-jobs are really spite for reality, though a pregnant "man" would be more of a spite, seeing that it's totally unnatural and unintended and impossible without hormones, surgical implants and i don't know (or care) what else that must be done to a man's body to accommodate an embryo. likewise, a sex-change operation is spite for reality - i realize that the devil's advocate would compare the sex-change operation to a nose-job operation, but when one thinks of everything entailed in a sex-change, not excluding daily hormones (hormones...don't "strong women" get testosterone-injections?), it's a much bigger deal. a much bigger slap in reality's face. it is not meant to be because it isn't naturally-occurring.
let me play "devil's advocate" and say that i should not have had a corneal-transplant surgery because it was not naturally-occurring and it was a spite against reality. i could say that people should not have hair-transplants, yeah, but my corneal transplant was necessary when both a hair-transplant and a gender-transplant isn't. i guess changing anything about oneself is all a matter of the importance one places on what's going to be changed. if he doesn't think highly enough of himself as a man, he's going to either get a sex-change or a boyfriend to make himself complete. if he doesn't think highly enough of himself as a fat man, he's going to go on a diet to make himself content. if he doesn't think highly enough of himself as a football player, he's going to find another hobby. if he doesn't think highly enough of america, the nigger's going to try to dhange it.
that gets us back to the contemptuous bigot who is totally closed-off to opposition. now, gays aren't the only ones who have contempt for reality. as i mentioned in passing not long ago, any little female who deliberately gives herself mens' hormones is contemptuous of her physical abilities paling in comparison to mens'. which brings me to another type of bigot - gosh, my brain is as "all over the place" as the bangles were in 1984.
the quintessential "male chauvinist pig," made famous by dabney coleman in a movie also starring the biggest tits i've ever seen, has been replaced in today's society by the "female chauvinist pig". like gay people are pro-gay bigots, feminists are not pro-woman as much as they are pro-woman bigots. this is why i have so much rage against them - it's why i disrespect them by referring to them as vaginas. my disrespect towards vaginas has nothing to do with my being a masculivoid, it has everything to do with pro-woman bigots. i should do a parody of the spin doctors' "little miss can't be wrong" and call it "little miss can't do wrong". that describes the mentality of a pro-woman bigot. i say "fuck you" to all of them, and my elaboration is my website - and the essays on that website. quite like the one you're reading now.
thank you,
dylan terreri, i
sheldon cooper, ii
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>> supporter of Pat Robertson's 700 Club and the Christian Coalition (not to
>> mention a member of the NRA).