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Jack Hamilton

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May 3, 1992, 9:35:58 PM5/3/92
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At the party after our concert last night, a few of us were talking about
our cars. (Cars and trucks and real estate are what gay people always talk
about when we get together, n'est-ce pas?)

One fellow said that his current car was a him, but his previous car was a
her. A woman said that her cars were always women, and in fact the current
one is a lesbian.

I don't give my cars sex, throbbing engines and hot tailpipes notwithstanding,
but I asked what the gender of my car might be (I have a 1973 Cadillac Coupe
de Ville, white with bright red leather). After discussing it, they
decided, mostly on the basis of the red leather, that it's a gay male drag
queen car.

Maybe that explains why it needs to be lubed so often.

Any trangender cars out there?

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Jack Hamilton j...@netcom.com

Neil Hamilton

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May 3, 1992, 11:03:15 PM5/3/92
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In article <+hbkjj#.j...@netcom.com> j...@netcom.com (Jack Hamilton) writes:
>
>At the party after our concert last night, a few of us were talking about
>our cars. (Cars and trucks and real estate are what gay people always talk
>about when we get together, n'est-ce pas?)
>
>One fellow said that his current car was a him, but his previous car was a
>her. A woman said that her cars were always women, and in fact the current
>one is a lesbian.
>
>I don't give my cars sex, throbbing engines and hot tailpipes notwithstanding,
>but I asked what the gender of my car might be (I have a 1973 Cadillac Coupe
>de Ville, white with bright red leather). After discussing it, they
>decided, mostly on the basis of the red leather, that it's a gay male drag
>queen car.

I've always heard that our cars (among other things) are just an
extension of ourselves.

Jack, really, in your wildest dreams. ;-)

Jim Wood

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May 4, 1992, 9:22:15 AM5/4/92
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j...@netcom.com (Jack Hamilton) writes:

My current car is a staid and conservative middle-aged suburban housewife:
I drive a dark grey 1991 Nissan Maxima.

My last car was a hot and hunky Italian guy: I used to have a dark brown
1986-1/2 Toyota Supra. Four valves per cylinder, and hung like 200 horsepower!

I want my Supra back. :-):-)

Jim Wood [wo...@siemens.siemens.com] (609) 734-3643
"I can't talk now, Clarice. I'm having a friend for lunch."
- Dr. Lecter on vacation in "The Silence of the Lambs" (1991).

Donn F. Pedro

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May 4, 1992, 12:22:35 PM5/4/92
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In article <bchV02Q...@JUTS.ccc.amdahl.com> ni...@JUTS.ccc.amdahl.com (Neil Hamilton) writes:
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>I've always heard that our cars (among other things) are just an
>extension of ourselves.

Then I must have Multiple Personality Disorder.

Honda Wagon: Paid for
1972 Ford 3/4 ton pickup: Paid for
1970 Ford Falcon: Paid for
1991 Ford Escort: Still paying

Why four vehicles? The Honda blew up shortly after
I purchased the Falcon. I leased the Escort to have a
commuter car while I took my damn sweet time tearing a honda
motor apart (I like pain). I got the Honda running and
bought the pickup for a song - all within the same week.

It wasn't planned - it just happened.

Why keep so many? Because three are paid for.

Then there's the sailboat. :-)


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Taylor Gilbert

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May 4, 1992, 3:21:30 PM5/4/92
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In article <bchV02Q...@JUTS.ccc.amdahl.com> ni...@ccc.amdahl.com (Neil
Hamilton) writes:
> In article <+hbkjj#.j...@netcom.com> j...@netcom.com (Jack Hamilton) writes:
> >
> >At the party after our concert last night, a few of us were talking about
> >our cars. (Cars and trucks and real estate are what gay people always talk
> >about when we get together, n'est-ce pas?)
> >
> >One fellow said that his current car was a him, but his previous car was a
> >her. A woman said that her cars were always women, and in fact the current
> >one is a lesbian.
> >
> >I don't give my cars sex, throbbing engines and hot tailpipes
notwithstanding,
> >but I asked what the gender of my car might be (I have a 1973 Cadillac Coupe
> >de Ville, white with bright red leather). After discussing it, they
> >decided, mostly on the basis of the red leather, that it's a gay male drag
> >queen car.
>


i drive an old Volvo (volva) and it is safe a womans womb and strong as one
too. its masculine attributes are its small put powerful engine
it is blue ( a typically boys color)
it has a stock radio that does the job and has been seriously over used
and yet it keeps on working (female attribute)
it does not like to get cleaned ( i use coffee grounds to freshen up)
the vanity plate is NE14tag(tag is my nickname)

it is transgender? YOU MAKE THE CALL

TAG

Rod Williams

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May 4, 1992, 7:26:19 PM5/4/92
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> dfp...@uswnvg.UUCP.UUCP (Donn F. Pedro) writes:
>> ni...@JUTS.ccc.amdahl.com (Neil Hamilton) writes:

>>I've always heard that our cars (among other things) are just an
>>extension of ourselves.
>
>Then I must have Multiple Personality Disorder.
>
>Honda Wagon: Paid for
>1972 Ford 3/4 ton pickup: Paid for
>1970 Ford Falcon: Paid for
>1991 Ford Escort: Still paying

I've been called self-effacing, but this is ridiculous!
(haven't owned a car for the last 6 years (except for
that $300 wreck I used to get from the train station to
work and back in New Jersey because there was no bus
service))

:-)
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jgl...@ducvax.auburn.edu

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May 5, 1992, 11:05:59 AM5/5/92
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In article <+hbkjj#.j...@netcom.com>, j...@netcom.com (Jack Hamilton) writes:
>
> At the party after our concert last night, a few of us were talking about
> our cars. (Cars and trucks and real estate are what gay people always talk
> about when we get together, n'est-ce pas?)
>
> One fellow said that his current car was a him, but his previous car was a
> her. A woman said that her cars were always women, and in fact the current
> one is a lesbian.
>
> I don't give my cars sex, throbbing engines and hot tailpipes notwithstanding,
> but I asked what the gender of my car might be (I have a 1973 Cadillac Coupe
> de Ville, white with bright red leather). After discussing it, they
> decided, mostly on the basis of the red leather, that it's a gay male drag
> queen car.

Well, this brings up an interesting question: How much do our vehicles
resemble us or we resemble our vehicles? Sort of like owners resembling
their pets or vice versa? Are vehicles a good indicator of personality?
In other words, is Jack a drag queen? :-)

I personally drive what has been refered to as a 'yuppie truck.'
It's a black 2WD S-10 blazer with tinted glass and running boards.
Someone this weekend remarked about how butch it was, like me,
well sort of. Yeah, its a truck, but it is a 2WD and only a 2.8
liter V6. So it appears butch, but doesn't carry it to an extreme,
like me. ;-) I also like to wear black, too. My truck is most
definately male, but most definately gay.

- jay g

Michael Bryan

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May 5, 1992, 12:35:38 PM5/5/92
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In article <+hbkjj#.j...@netcom.com> j...@netcom.com (Jack Hamilton) writes:
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>I don't give my cars sex, throbbing engines and hot tailpipes notwithstanding

I don't give my cars sex, either. I make them find it on their own!

:-)

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Donn F. Pedro

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May 5, 1992, 2:46:08 PM5/5/92
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In article <1992May4.2...@PacBell.COM> rjw...@PacBell.COM (Rod Williams) writes:
>> dfp...@uswnvg.UUCP.UUCP (Donn F. Pedro) writes:
>>Honda Wagon: Paid for
>>1972 Ford 3/4 ton pickup: Paid for
>>1970 Ford Falcon: Paid for
>>1991 Ford Escort: Still paying
>
>I've been called self-effacing, but this is ridiculous!

It is ridiculous! I hadn't planned it this way, to be sure.

Haven't decided what to do about it yet.

I do have the sailboat so I need a tow vehicle.
Vehicles that can haul 3000lbs don't get great mileage.

I commute 25 mi each way so I need a commute car.

>(haven't owned a car for the last 6 years (except for
>that $300 wreck I used to get from the train station to
>work and back in New Jersey because there was no bus
>service))

Not possible for me at this time, but preferable.

>:-)

I know.

Steve Eastman

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May 5, 1992, 3:50:28 PM5/5/92
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Well, I drive a 1974 Cadillac Eldorado, Black w/ black leather interior, and
a 500 cubic inch engine (8.2 liters)

Oh please, oh please, oh please, please, please be a BUTCH car.


Steve Eastman
Research Libraries Group, Inc./Stanford University


Rob Bernardo

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May 5, 1992, 4:15:28 PM5/5/92
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j...@netcom.com (Jack Hamilton) wrote:
>At the party after our concert last night, a few of us were talking about
>our cars. (Cars and trucks and real estate are what gay people always talk
>about when we get together, n'est-ce pas?)

Not sex and tricks and parties? Heavens, I think the yuppie crowd has taken
over. :-)

>One fellow said that his current car was a him, but his previous car was a
>her. A woman said that her cars were always women, and in fact the current
>one is a lesbian.
>
>I don't give my cars sex, throbbing engines and hot tailpipes notwithstanding,

...

That's interesting. Not only do I not assign gender to my vehicles,
but gender hardly comes to play in my mental picture of even Oriana (newbies:
Oriana is a mare). She's just Oriana.
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Rob Bernardo
r...@mtdiablo.Concord.CA.US

Scooter Corleone

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May 5, 1992, 4:24:44 PM5/5/92
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In article <+hbkjj#.j...@netcom.com> j...@netcom.com (Jack Hamilton) writes:
>
>I don't give my cars sex,

...I'm surprised they still carry you around.

No worries,

Scooter Corleone

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J. N. Shaumeyer

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May 5, 1992, 9:40:07 PM5/5/92
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Steve Eastman (BR....@forsythe.stanford.edu) offers:

> Well, I drive a 1974 Cadillac Eldorado, Black w/ black leather interior, and
> a 500 cubic inch engine (8.2 liters)

Damn!

That's one BUTCH car!

Bet it's at LEAST 3" longer than
a Lincoln Continental Mark IV, too.

--jns

George Dalton Madison

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May 5, 1992, 10:14:07 PM5/5/92
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Steve Eastman writes:
>Well, I drive a 1974 Cadillac Eldorado, Black w/ black leather interior, and
>a 500 cubic inch engine (8.2 liters)
>
>Oh please, oh please, oh please, please, please be a BUTCH car.

Sorry. That's just a piggy, oversized and wasteful car.

(Unless you habitually carpool with 4 other people....)

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Jack Hamilton

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May 5, 1992, 11:46:35 PM5/5/92
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In article <58...@cup.portal.com> Fu...@cup.portal.com (George Dalton Madison) writes:
>Steve Eastman writes:
>>Well, I drive a 1974 Cadillac Eldorado, Black w/ black leather interior, and
>>a 500 cubic inch engine (8.2 liters)
>>
>>Oh please, oh please, oh please, please, please be a BUTCH car.
>
>Sorry. That's just a piggy, oversized and wasteful car.

You certainly have pigs on the mind a lot these days.

>(Unless you habitually carpool with 4 other people....)

Steve *is* in a carpool, although I don't know how many other people are in
it. He also keeps his car tuned up.

Jess Anderson

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May 6, 1992, 6:37:01 AM5/6/92
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In article <1992May5.2...@mtdiablo.Concord.CA.US>
r...@mtdiablo.Concord.CA.US (Rob Bernardo) writes:

>gender hardly comes to play in my mental picture of even
>Oriana (newbies: Oriana is a mare).

It would if you were a stud. But we both know you're not! :-)

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Donn F. Pedro

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May 6, 1992, 12:33:45 PM5/6/92
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In article <1992May6.0...@wam.umd.edu> j...@wam.umd.edu (J. N. Shaumeyer) writes:
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:Steve Eastman (BR....@forsythe.stanford.edu) offers:

Size queen. :-)

jgl...@ducvax.auburn.edu

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May 6, 1992, 5:36:49 PM5/6/92
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In article <1992May5.1...@morrow.stanford.edu>, BR....@forsythe.stanford.edu (Steve Eastman) writes:
> Well, I drive a 1974 Cadillac Eldorado, Black w/ black leather interior, and
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

> a 500 cubic inch engine (8.2 liters)
>
> Oh please, oh please, oh please, please, please be a BUTCH car.

Oh, isn't it obvious it is? I'm sure it comes complete with its
own tire chains and whips, too, huh?

500 cubic inches? Hmph! Size queen!

- jay

Jim Wood

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May 7, 1992, 9:11:33 AM5/7/92
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r...@mtdiablo.Concord.CA.US (Rob Bernardo) writes:

>That's interesting. Not only do I not assign gender to my vehicles,
>but gender hardly comes to play in my mental picture of even Oriana (newbies:
>Oriana is a mare). She's just Oriana.

^^^^^
Don't you mean to say, "He or she's just Oriana," or better yet,
"It's just Oriana?"

e...@polari.com

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May 9, 1992, 1:24:44 PM5/9/92
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In article <+hbkjj#.j...@netcom.com>
j...@netcom.com (Jack Hamilton) writes:

>I don't give my cars sex, throbbing engines and hot tailpipes

>notwithstanding, but I asked what the gender of my car might be.

Well, I drive a blue 2-door '87 Ford Tempo with the "bigger" engine,
stick shift and tinted windows. Despite all these masculine trappings,
I came upon the car quite without design and am convinced to this day
that it's a very female car. It likes men and women (although women
less so) and I'd have to say that my car is female, Kinsey-2 and just
likes to dress butch because she's comfortable that way, even if it
doesn't always "look right."

Elf !!!

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JON THUMIM

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May 10, 1992, 1:05:53 AM5/10/92
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I thought that Oriana was the Queen of England?

Peace.
Jon

"I must be willing to give up what I am in order to become what I will
be."
-Albert Einstein

Rob Bernardo

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May 10, 1992, 12:08:07 PM5/10/92
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In article <wood.705244293@jfred> wo...@jfred.siemens.com (Jim Wood) writes:
>r...@mtdiablo.Concord.CA.US (Rob Bernardo) writes:
>
>>That's interesting. Not only do I not assign gender to my vehicles,
>>but gender hardly comes to play in my mental picture of even Oriana (newbies:
>>Oriana is a mare). She's just Oriana.
> ^^^^^
>Don't you mean to say, "He or she's just Oriana," or better yet,
>"It's just Oriana?"

Language usage does not reflect the saliences of mental images. Also
for me, using "it" for a sentient creature seems distancing and
inappropriate for a pet, esp. one which one knows well. Additionally,
"he or she" refers to someone of unspecifiable gender, such as a
hypothetical person who might be of either gender, or a person who's
gender is unknown to the speaker.

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Rob Bernardo
r...@mtdiablo.Concord.CA.US

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