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adolphson

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Feb 10, 1993, 10:14:19 PM2/10/93
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Do take a look at the photo in today's NY Times of Mattel's
new version of Barbie's boyfriend Ken. Earring Magic Ken,
to use his full name, looks like a West Hollywood Twink from
Hell. He's blond, wears some kind of mesh shirt and a leather
vest, and sports an earring in his left ear. I can't tell
from the photo if he's also bubble-butted, but something tells
me he just has to be.

What is the world coming to?

Arne

Mod Bob

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Feb 11, 1993, 4:27:31 PM2/11/93
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In article <1le8ib...@mizar.usc.edu>, adol...@mizar.usc.edu (adolphson)
wrote:

>
>
> He's blond, wears some kind of mesh shirt and a leather
> vest, and sports an earring in his left ear. I can't tell
> from the photo if he's also bubble-butted, but something tells
> me he just has to be.

JOY! A New Toy!



> What is the world coming to?

I'll let you know...

> Arne

Bob, on his way to Toys 'r' Us

FJ!!

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Feb 12, 1993, 10:59:13 AM2/12/93
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adol...@mizar.usc.edu (adolphson) writes:
:Do take a look at the photo in today's NY Times of Mattel's

Yo, Johnny, conc' bay-Bro' of mine!

Something to go with your anatomically correct plastic horse?

FJ!!

Chuck Fisher

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Feb 12, 1993, 3:52:32 PM2/12/93
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Gee Arne, that description sounds like your dream date! Or am I
confusing you with a contract employee working at Apple??? :-) :-)

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John Dorrance

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Feb 12, 1993, 6:27:26 PM2/12/93
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fjv...@cs.vu.nl (FJ!!) writes:

>Yo, Johnny, conc' bay-Bro' of mine!

>Something to go with your anatomically correct plastic horse?

Fuck that noise; I'm waiting for PA Magic Rocco.

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Feb 14, 1993, 8:16:20 AM2/14/93
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In article <1le8ib...@mizar.usc.edu> adol...@mizar.usc.edu (adolphson) writes:
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Yes, but to show off that bubble butt, does the accessory package
come with a pair of chaps and boots. (Not to mention a leather
jockstrap with a detachable pouch)

Peace (Suddenly remembering the leatherbound Marlon Bearndo at
FAO Schwartz in Chicago last Christmas)


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Nick Fitch

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Feb 15, 1993, 1:46:22 AM2/15/93
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adol...@mizar.usc.edu (adolphson) writes:

> :Do take a look at the photo in today's NY Times of Mattel's
> :new version of Barbie's boyfriend Ken. Earring Magic Ken,

Could someone explain to me what's magic about him?



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John Dorrance

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Feb 15, 1993, 4:44:51 AM2/15/93
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nel...@reed.edu (Nelson Minar) writes:

>In article <NFitch-15...@clinical-mac76-106.ucsd.edu> NFi...@UCSD.edu (Nick Fitch) writes:
>>[concerning Earring Magic Ken]


>>Could someone explain to me what's magic about him?

>haven't you taken his pants off yet?

God, this reminds me of this weird dream I had when I was a kid; I
was in a car with my parents (not my real-life parents, since I only
have one of those, anyway... I don't remember what the dream-parents
were like, actually, only that they were two large people in the
front seat) taking a cross-country trip (a thing I never did in real
life) through some farmland, and I had a smallish (midway between
Ken-sized and GI Joe-sized) doll of a farmer (purchased at a road-
side stand, perhaps?). It was plastic, but I started to remove its
clothing and as I got the overalls and shirt off and got down to
the socks and undershirt and underwear (which I thought was strange,
because I'd never seen Barbie-type dolls with underwear before), it
kind of changed to flesh, though still inflexible like a plastic
doll, and it had lots of nice body hair and was built pretty nicely
and looked like a major farmdaddy. And I took the rest of the clothes
off and I don't remember the rest.

Richard Carels

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Feb 15, 1993, 9:03:12 AM2/15/93
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adol...@mizar.usc.edu (adolphson) writes:
:Do take a look at the photo in today's NY Times of Mattel's
:new version of Barbie's boyfriend Ken. Earring Magic Ken,
:to use his full name, looks like a West Hollywood Twink from
:Hell. He's blond, wears some kind of mesh shirt and a leather
:vest, and sports an earring in his left ear. I can't tell
:from the photo if he's also bubble-butted, but something tells
:me he just has to be.

Left ear? Hmm, last thursday I finally had a hole for an earring made in my
left ear. When a friend of mine saw this, he said it was the wrong ear. He
said most gays take the right ear and straights the left. So, my question is:
Where do you guys have your earrings? Is my left ear OK, or is it the wrong
ear and should I have taken the right ear, or is left also right (er, hmm,
oh well, you understand ;-)
I have looked around at friends, relatives and collegues and not really
found a correlation. Is there any?

RC.


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Laura Cuzzillo

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Feb 15, 1993, 11:18:08 AM2/15/93
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In article <1le8ib...@mizar.usc.edu> adol...@mizar.usc.edu (adolphson) writes:
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We'll know we've really gotten somewhere when GI Joe has a
pierced ear.

Michael A. Thomas

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Feb 15, 1993, 11:50:39 AM2/15/93
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In article <1993Feb15....@reed.edu>, nel...@reed.edu (Nelson Minar) writes:
> In article <NFitch-15...@clinical-mac76-106.ucsd.edu> NFi...@UCSD.edu (Nick Fitch) writes:
> >[concerning Earring Magic Ken]
> >Could someone explain to me what's magic about him?
>
> haven't you taken his pants off yet?

But where do you get the secret sauce refills?
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John Dorrance

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Feb 15, 1993, 12:27:55 PM2/15/93
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There used to be a correlation, but it doesn't matter anymore in
most metropolitan places. Just to make sure you can get multiple
peircings in both ears and all over the rest of your face and
scattered about all over the rest of your body. This will be painful,
but your community is worth it.

Chrome Jester

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Feb 15, 1993, 1:07:37 PM2/15/93
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ric...@fwi.uva.nl (Richard Carels) divulges:
->
->Left ear? Hmm, last thursday I finally had a hole for an earring made in my
->left ear. When a friend of mine saw this, he said it was the wrong ear. He
->said most gays take the right ear and straights the left. So, my question is:
->Where do you guys have your earrings? Is my left ear OK, or is it the wrong
->ear and should I have taken the right ear, or is left also right (er, hmm,
->oh well, you understand ;-)

I have a hole in each ear, but I tend to only wear an earring in my right
ear. If I'm going to a gay-hostile area, I usually switch. When I want to
be ambiguous, I put a stud in the right and a dangly of some sort in the
left. I've noticed, however, that around here no-one really notices or
cares. A (supposedly) straight friend of mine has two holes in his left and
one in his right. *shrug*

->I have looked around at friends, relatives and collegues and not really
->found a correlation. Is there any?

Correlation lies in the eyes of the beholder.

:)

JOhn.
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DE LA COVA,JORGE

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Feb 15, 1993, 12:19:10 PM2/15/93
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On the subject of earrings, I got mine in my left ear because it was
my better side. It just *looked* better (what a novel idea).

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Nick Fitch

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Feb 15, 1993, 1:49:45 PM2/15/93
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In article <1993Feb15....@reed.edu>, nel...@reed.edu (Nelson Minar)
wrote:

>
> In article <NFitch-15...@clinical-mac76-106.ucsd.edu> NFi...@UCSD.edu (Nick Fitch) writes:
> >[concerning Earring Magic Ken]
> >Could someone explain to me what's magic about him?
>
> haven't you taken his pants off yet?

What, you mean they've finally made him anatomically correct? Wow!!!
Barbie *will* be pleased!

Nelson Minar

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Feb 15, 1993, 2:15:33 AM2/15/93
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In article <NFitch-15...@clinical-mac76-106.ucsd.edu> NFi...@UCSD.edu (Nick Fitch) writes:
>[concerning Earring Magic Ken]
>Could someone explain to me what's magic about him?

haven't you taken his pants off yet?
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Jeff Runner

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Feb 15, 1993, 11:43:40 AM2/15/93
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>Left ear? Hmm, last thursday I finally had a hole for an earring made in my
>left ear. When a friend of mine saw this, he said it was the wrong ear. He
>said most gays take the right ear and straights the left. So, my question is:
>Where do you guys have your earrings? Is my left ear OK, or is it the wrong
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

>ear and should I have taken the right ear, or is left also right (er, hmm,
>oh well, you understand ;-)
>I have looked around at friends, relatives and collegues and not really
>found a correlation. Is there any?
>
>RC.
>
>
>--
>
>Richard Carels, University of Amsterdam, Computer Science Department
> Kruislaan 403, 1098 SJ AMSTERDAM


i've had an earring in my right ear for almost ten years. at first i
got a fair amount of looks because not *everyone* had earrings then. in
the u.s. people don't seem to be so aware of the left/right distinction.
but i lived in barcelona for awhile last year and many people told me
(later) that they assumed i was gay because my earring was in my right
ear.

anyway, with the current trend of men having both ears pierced, the left
right thing seems less obvious.

jeff

Thomas M Farrell

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Feb 15, 1993, 6:57:51 PM2/15/93
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I always thought that it was supposed to be that hets wore their earrings on
the left ear. (foolish to have a rule about it, but in the social circles I
seem to be stuck in, everybody follows it.) Consequently, this implies that
we g/b men are to wear them on the right ear.

Along these lines, I don't wear earrings, but I rather like those little
things that look like a silver (and/or gold, but I prefer silver) man hanging
onto the side of your ear for dear life... the problem is that every single
one I've seen would be facing backwards if worn on my right ear. (Oh, I should
mention that the thing I'm talking about doesn't require any piercing, it just
hangs there.) Does anybody know where I can get my hands on one for the right
ear fairly cheap (they usually go for $5 to $10) or do I have to have it
custom made for me?

Tom

Piglet

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Feb 15, 1993, 9:32:37 PM2/15/93
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In article <NFitch-16...@clinical-mac76-106.ucsd.edu> NFi...@UCSD.edu (Nick Fitch) writes:
>What, you mean they've finally made him anatomically correct? Wow!!!
>Barbie *will* be pleased!

Why, exactly? (Since she's about as anatomically in-correct as is possible.)


Piglet, definitely AC (does that make me cold?)

Tim Mohler

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Feb 16, 1993, 12:08:56 AM2/16/93
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>Along these lines, I don't wear earrings, but I rather like those little
>things that look like a silver (and/or gold, but I prefer silver) man hanging
>onto the side of your ear for dear life... the problem is that every single
>one I've seen would be facing backwards if worn on my right ear. (Oh, I should
>mention that the thing I'm talking about doesn't require any piercing, it just
>hangs there.) Does anybody know where I can get my hands on one for the right
>ear fairly cheap (they usually go for $5 to $10) or do I have to have it
>custom made for me?

I believe they are called ear cuffs. I don't know where you might buy one, but
I should think that any good jewelry store would have some info.

Tim

John Dorrance

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Feb 16, 1993, 3:41:36 AM2/16/93
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twpi...@unix.amherst.edu (Tim Pierce) writes:

>In article <thaaang.729769491@cwis> tha...@cwis.unomaha.edu (John Dorrance) writes:

>>And I took the rest of the clothes
>>off and I don't remember the rest.

>Oh, sure.

No really, I don't.

John, who left this hanging in such a manner in order to facilitate
some chain porn

Matthew Melmon

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Feb 16, 1993, 1:44:22 PM2/16/93
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fis...@ncselxsi.uucp (Chuck Fisher) writes:

>Gee Arne, that description sounds like your dream date! Or am I
>confusing you with a contract employee working at Apple??? :-) :-)

Assuming you mean the Dread *X* - I am no longer a 'contract'
employee, but am, in fact, the 'real' thing. Complete with
domestic partner benefits. Any takers?

*X*
(who is trumpeting the accomplishments of others, I must admit.
Many thanks to Bennet Marks for his endeavors.)

Nick Fitch

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Feb 16, 1993, 2:41:31 PM2/16/93
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In article <GANDALF.93...@damon.ccs.northeastern.edu>,

gan...@dworkin.ccs.northeastern.edu (Thomas M Farrell) wrote:

> Along these lines, I don't wear earrings, but I rather like those little
> things that look like a silver (and/or gold, but I prefer silver) man hanging
> onto the side of your ear for dear life... the problem is that every single
> one I've seen would be facing backwards if worn on my right ear. (Oh, I should
> mention that the thing I'm talking about doesn't require any piercing, it just
> hangs there.) Does anybody know where I can get my hands on one for the right
> ear fairly cheap (they usually go for $5 to $10) or do I have to have it
> custom made for me?

I don't know if they come in left and right ear varieties but I wear mine
on my right ear all the time. Actually, mine seems to be *designed* to go
on the right ear (his right leg is raised higer than his left so his little
foot lodges against the inner curve of the ear, making it look like he's
climbing up it). You do have to pinch his arms together, though, to narrow
the gap between his hands, otherwise he does dangle behind the ear. I
don't think he's actually supposed to look like he's holding on for dear
life. It's supposed to be more a sort-of 'bravely scaling the rockface'
effect.

Nick

Thomas M Farrell

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Feb 16, 1993, 5:19:54 PM2/16/93
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In article <C2IsE...@panix.com> pig...@panix.com (Piglet) writes:

>What, you mean they've finally made him anatomically correct? Wow!!!
>Barbie *will* be pleased!

Why, exactly? (Since she's about as anatomically in-correct as is possible.)

And beyond that, why are you assuming Barbie is heterosexual? (Perhaps she's
been using Ken as a cover for all of those years.)
Tom
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John Dorrance

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Feb 16, 1993, 7:44:10 PM2/16/93
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Barbie! Ken! Rusty! (Rusty? Who's this Rusty person?)

ke...@max.physics.sunysb.edu

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Feb 16, 1993, 11:06:43 PM2/16/93
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(Nick Fitch) writes:

> (Thomas M Farrell) wrote:

>> Along these lines, I don't wear earrings, but I rather like those little
>> things that look like a silver (and/or gold, but I prefer silver) man hanging
>> onto the side of your ear for dear life...

>I don't think he's actually supposed to look like he's holding on for dear


>life. It's supposed to be more a sort-of 'bravely scaling the rockface'
>effect.

Provided you have the properly chiseled cheek bones, of course.


Kenji

Tim Pierce

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Feb 17, 1993, 12:15:52 AM2/17/93
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In article <thaaang.729852096@cwis> tha...@cwis.unomaha.edu (John Dorrance) writes:

>John, who left this hanging in such a manner in order to facilitate
>some chain porn

Just as long as it doesn't involve bubble-butted VAX system managers,
okay?

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Keith Duddy

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Feb 17, 1993, 12:34:46 AM2/17/93
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After all this talk of Earring Ken I thought I'd ask about what
meaning, if any, is ascribed to the wearing of earings (esp by
men) in different countries. In Australia wearing a single
earring has a definate sexual orientation connotation.
Left=straight, right=queer. Wearing 2 earrings (one in either
ear) can mean that you are bisexual, or it can just be hip,
depending on subculture.

When in Europe I noticed that this convention seemed to hold in
some places and not in others. I sometimes noticed demonstrably
straight guys with an earring in their right ear, and often saw
presumably straight guys with one in each ear. Never having been
to the US I don't know what goes there....

Anyone got any info? (it's not that I'd want to use it later this
year when I'm back in Europe as a cruising aid or anything)

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In article <GANDALF.93...@damon.ccs.northeastern.edu>, gan...@dworkin.ccs.northeastern.edu (Thomas M Farrell) writes...

>In article <C2IsE...@panix.com> pig...@panix.com (Piglet) writes:
>
> >What, you mean they've finally made him anatomically correct? Wow!!!
> >Barbie *will* be pleased!
>
> Why, exactly? (Since she's about as anatomically in-correct as is possible.)
>
>And beyond that, why are you assuming Barbie is heterosexual? (Perhaps she's
>been using Ken as a cover for all of those years.)
> Tom
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Kenneth Hall

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Feb 17, 1993, 5:58:00 AM2/17/93
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In article <thaaang.729909850@cwis>, tha...@cwis.unomaha.edu (John Dorrance) writes...

I'm Rusty if you follow the trace...

Want to get really confused .....I'm also Ken

;-}

Aloha John...

Like at MilkyWay's Please check your brain at the door

John Dorrance

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Feb 17, 1993, 7:53:48 AM2/17/93
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twpi...@unix.amherst.edu (Tim Pierce) writes:

>In article <thaaang.729852096@cwis> tha...@cwis.unomaha.edu (John Dorrance) writes:

>>John, who left this hanging in such a manner in order to facilitate
>>some chain porn

>Just as long as it doesn't involve bubble-butted VAX system managers,
>okay?

Wearing sweatpants again, are we?

Dean Allemang

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Feb 17, 1993, 8:36:04 AM2/17/93
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In article <1993Feb15....@fwi.uva.nl> ric...@fwi.uva.nl (Richard Carels) asks:


I have looked around at friends, relatives and collegues and not really
found a correlation. Is there any?

At my last high school reunion, I met an old high school buddy who I
had not seen for the 10 intervening years, who noticed the earring in
my left ear. "Let's see, he said, left is right and right is wrong,
so you're okay, I guess". I was not quite enough out to let him know
that yes, I was quite okay, my only problem was that my boyfriend
could't make it to the reunion.

I had always been told that the straight boys believe that left is
straight and right is gay, but that the gays know better. But if the
straight boys believe this, then if I want to make a statment, then I
need to move to the right ear. So I did. But at the same time, I
moved to Switzerland, where there is a time-honoured tradition of men
wearing single earrings. Left and right just indicate which region
you come from. The only one I remember is that Appenzell is right.
If anyone is interested, I am sure that Markus will fill in the whole
list.

My next high school reunion is this summer. The last one was such a
bore, I swore never to go to another one. But after the discussion on
this topic here recently, I might just do it. If I find myself on the
same continent on the date in question.

Dino

Alan Stacey

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Feb 17, 1993, 1:04:12 PM2/17/93
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In article <1993Feb17.0...@stallion.oz.au> keithd@cluster (Keith Duddy)
writes:

>After all this talk of Earring Ken I thought I'd ask about what
>meaning, if any, is ascribed to the wearing of earings (esp by
>men) in different countries. In Australia wearing a single
>earring has a definate sexual orientation connotation.
>Left=straight, right=queer. Wearing 2 earrings (one in either
>ear) can mean that you are bisexual, or it can just be hip,
>depending on subculture.
>
>When in Europe I noticed that this convention seemed to hold in
>some places and not in others. I sometimes noticed demonstrably


I've certainly heard some kind of convention talked about in the U.K.
The main problem seems to be that no-one can remember what it is
supposed to be, so in practice it is fairly useless. I've heard people
claim left=queer and others claim right=queer. I've also heard
(straight) people claim that earrings in only one ear means straight
and in both ears means queer. Most people, however, claim that they
are just baffled by the whole thing!

I think a similar problem exists here with hanky-codes, but I don't
really use them so perhaps someone will correct me. However, I
definitely recall reading in HIM magazine some years ago that left and
right ones are reversed in crossing the Atlantic. Unless this is
out-of-date, I would guess a lot of confusion results since the number
of Americans on the gay scene here (certainly in London) is far from
insignificant.


>Anyone got any info? (it's not that I'd want to use it later this
>year when I'm back in Europe as a cruising aid or anything)

Oh dear! This poor boy just gets all confused if he has to remember
complicated codes and start worrying about people's ears when he's
cruising 8-).

Alan.

Trinity College,
Cambridge.
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adolphson

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Feb 17, 1993, 2:21:33 PM2/17/93
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In article <1993Feb17.0...@stallion.oz.au>
keithd@cluster (Keith Duddy) writes:
> After all this talk of Earring Ken

That's Earring *Magic* Ken, Keith.

> I thought I'd ask about what
> meaning, if any, is ascribed to the wearing of earings (esp by

> men) in different countries. [ ... ]

I've never noticed that anyone holds to any particular
convention wrt which ear is pierced. At least not in
Southern California. I wear three earrings in my left
ear. Why the left ear? I guess because I'm right-handed.

Arne

Nelson Minar

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Feb 17, 1993, 4:48:26 PM2/17/93
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Elizabeth forgive me for posting in our four-times-a-year earring
discussion, but..

In my mind, and in my experience in Houston and Portland (USA),
there's no question about one thing: If there's an earring in the
right ear, then the person is most likely queer.

You can disagree with me if you want, but this has been my experience.
This is why I have my right ear pierced.

Now to get to a topic of conversation more appopriate to motss - what
sort of earrings should I wear? I just can't find anything I like. I'm
still wearing that simple little silver stud. I've got a ring with a
tiger eye bead and crescent moon on it, but that's a bit too Faerie
for me right now. What does one wear?

(I solved the pink-triangle-on-pink-skin problem by buying a pink
triangle button instead and wearing it on my coat. So no, no pink
triangle earrings - they look bad on me.)
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Rich Haag

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Feb 17, 1993, 4:56:17 PM2/17/93
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In article <1993Feb15....@fwi.uva.nl> ric...@fwi.uva.nl (Richard Carels) writes:
>
>Left ear? Hmm, last thursday I finally had a hole for an earring made in my
>left ear. When a friend of mine saw this, he said it was the wrong ear. He
>said most gays take the right ear and straights the left. So, my question is:
>Where do you guys have your earrings? Is my left ear OK, or is it the wrong
>ear and should I have taken the right ear, or is left also right (er, hmm,
>oh well, you understand ;-)
>I have looked around at friends, relatives and collegues and not really
>found a correlation. Is there any?
>

I can only speak for the U.S., but there has usually been a distinction
between the right and left ear. Right ear = gay, often remembered with
the catch phrase "Right ear" = looking for the "right guy". However,
the left ear tends to be far more ambiguous, and both gay and straight
wear it there.

I agree that the entire issue is much more ambivalent now.
So many people are getting them in both ears that it hardly
matters. If you really want to know in your area I would
just ask someplace that does piercings, they _always_ know.

- Rich (one pierce left ear)

ri...@uunet.uu.net uunet!rich

adolphson

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Feb 17, 1993, 5:12:05 PM2/17/93
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In article <1993Feb17.2...@reed.edu>
nel...@reed.edu (Nelson Minar) writes:

> Now to get to a topic of conversation more appopriate to motss - what
> sort of earrings should I wear? I just can't find anything I like.

Have you thought of wearing huge Cleopatra Jones-style loops? No?
Well, you're too tall for long, shiny danglies. I don't know. I'm
partial to Navajo and Hopi turquoise and onyx studs.

Arne

Season Marie Taylor

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Feb 17, 1993, 8:53:08 PM2/17/93
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In article <C2IsE...@panix.com> pig...@panix.com (Piglet) writes:

>In article <NFitch-16...@clinical-mac76-106.ucsd.edu> NFi...@UCSD.edu (Nick Fitch) writes:

>>What, you mean they've finally made him anatomically correct? Wow!!!
>>Barbie *will* be pleased!

>Why, exactly? (Since she's about as anatomically in-correct as is possible.)

i read somewhere that if she was blown up to life size, her measurements
would be something like 42-17-36. no wonder you can't make her stand up
(besides the fact that her feet were molded to wear pumps).

season

--
____
Season Taylor \ / "we had joy, we had fun, we had seasons in the sun,
cz...@gibbs.oit.unc.edu\/ but the wine and the song like the seasons have
(yes, as in the 4) all gone." -terry jack

a flying squirrel

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Feb 17, 1993, 10:24:27 PM2/17/93
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ric...@fwi.uva.nl (Richard Carels) writes:

>So, my question is:
>Where do you guys have your earrings? Is my left ear OK, or is it the wrong
>ear and should I have taken the right ear, or is left also right (er, hmm,
>oh well, you understand ;-)

Actually, I don't understand. Why not just wear it where _you_ feel
comfortable?

It would be *fun* to dress people based on opinions gathered on soc.motss --
to prove it, let's all dress John Dorrance for a night on the town. I'll
start, and the rest of you can jump in (thaaang is not allowed to
participate):

1. You are wearing a black leather cock ring with studs on it. Your
scrotum is freshly shaved, and you've applied just the slightest amount of
powder (unscented) to your foreskin to give it that soft look (as opposed
to texture).
--
a flying squirrel is ric...@apple.com Apple Computer Inc.

"It has this intense... intense... _red_ flavour." - arnold zwicky

a flying squirrel

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Feb 17, 1993, 10:25:37 PM2/17/93
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cu...@ellis.uchicago.edu (Laura Cuzzillo) writes:

>We'll know we've really gotten somewhere when GI Joe has a
>pierced ear.

Can't wait until 15 July? Me neither.

Tim Pierce

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Feb 17, 1993, 11:07:00 PM2/17/93
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In article <1993Feb17.2...@reed.edu> nel...@reed.edu (Nelson Minar) writes:

>Now to get to a topic of conversation more appopriate to motss - what
>sort of earrings should I wear? I just can't find anything I like. I'm
>still wearing that simple little silver stud. I've got a ring with a
>tiger eye bead and crescent moon on it, but that's a bit too Faerie
>for me right now. What does one wear?

Anything as long as it's big. *REALLY* *BIG* *EARRINGS* catch
everyone's attention, in my experience.

And they're great icebreakers.

K Campbell

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Feb 18, 1993, 6:26:39 AM2/18/93
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In article <1993Feb17.1...@infodev.cam.ac.uk>,
am...@emu.pmms.cam.ac.uk (Alan Stacey) writes:

|> I think a similar problem exists here with hanky-codes, but I don't
|> really use them so perhaps someone will correct me. However, I
|> definitely recall reading in HIM magazine some years ago that left and
|> right ones are reversed in crossing the Atlantic. Unless this is
|> out-of-date, I would guess a lot of confusion results since the number
|> of Americans on the gay scene here (certainly in London) is far from
|> insignificant.
|>

The hanky code is still used, although you are more these days to
see it in personals ads, e.g.
"GWM into brown, yellow. Use me as your toilet. Non-smoker preferred"

--
| Kenny Campbell ______ If at first you don't |
| Imperial College \ / succeed, failure might |
| London \ / be your style. |
| k...@doc.ic.ac.uk \/ Quentin Crisp |

John Dorrance

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Feb 18, 1993, 6:58:21 AM2/18/93
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adol...@mizar.usc.edu (adolphson) writes:

I just got my first pair of danglies: little silver monkeys or lemurs
or something, just the shapes done in a cave-painting style, kind of
a stick figure with an arched body and a big spiralling tail. They're
hanging from little blue stones. Pretty cute. I can't wear them as
often as I'd like, though, because I don't own many silver earrings.
It's still tacky to mix silver and gold, right?

John, who thinks Nelson would look fab with huge hoops

John Dorrance

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Feb 18, 1993, 7:06:47 AM2/18/93
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ru...@nssdc.gsfc.nasa.gov (Kenneth Hall) writes:

>In article <thaaang.729909850@cwis>, tha...@cwis.unomaha.edu (John Dorrance) writes...
>>Barbie! Ken! Rusty! (Rusty? Who's this Rusty person?)

>I'm Rusty if you follow the trace...

Actually, when I said rusty I was trying to pick out a really dykey-
sounding name, in response to the speculation that Barbie had a little
plastic motss lover. I didn't even see any Rusty contributions to this
thread before then.

>Want to get really confused .....I'm also Ken

This is mind-boggling.

John Dorrance

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Feb 18, 1993, 7:13:19 AM2/18/93
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ric...@Apple.COM (a flying squirrel) writes:

>It would be *fun* to dress people based on opinions gathered on soc.motss --
>to prove it, let's all dress John Dorrance for a night on the town. I'll
>start, and the rest of you can jump in (thaaang is not allowed to
>participate):

How exciting! I feel so used-against-my-will!

>1. You are wearing a black leather cock ring with studs on it. Your
>scrotum is freshly shaved, and you've applied just the slightest amount of
>powder (unscented) to your foreskin to give it that soft look (as opposed
>to texture).

How did you know?

(john, who supposes the cock ring automatically rules out the option
of low-rise pants...

but then again, maybe not...)

Éamonn McManus

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Feb 18, 1993, 10:55:35 AM2/18/93
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NFi...@UCSD.edu (Nick Fitch) writes:
> What, you mean they've finally made him anatomically correct?

While the chances of Ken being made anatomically correct any time soon
are rather slim, it is the case that Billy Boy, formerly a designer
for Mattel (The makers of Barbie(TM)), now markets "The World's First
Anatomically Correct Fashion Dolls". My hairdresser is a big Barbie
fan and was thrilled to bits when he phoned Billy Boy's boutique in
Paris and got to speak to the man himself, with the result that he now
has the catalogue. Both male and female a-c dolls exist. The males
have their penises turned up against their bodies in a slightly
unnatural way, but I suspect that it would have been hard to have them
dangle realistically, and of course erections would produce that
tent-pole effect so inimical to casual stylishness.

The dolls and their accessories are rather expensive, though, so for
the moment the only visible doll presence in Alex's apartment is the
two Kens that he perches on top of his CD tower in a variety of
compromising positions. At the moment, Blond Ken is wearing a fur
stole and beach shorts, with what for his stature is a rather
inhumanly long thin-bead necklace; Dark Ken is bare-chested with
denim jeans that have those leather patches on the ends that may
once have been considered fashionable by some, and carrying a blue
plastic handbag in one hand while he explores Blond Ken's genital
region with the other. I think he is in for a disappointment.

,
Eamonn

Conrad J. Sabatier

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Feb 18, 1993, 11:52:37 AM2/18/93
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I used to *love* taking the uniform off my G.I. Joe when I was a
kid, but always rued the fact that he had no appendage in the most
interesting place. So, being the resourceful little queer that I
was, I took the bolt off this little toy rifle (a little cap gun,
G.I. Joe scale) and stuffed his crotch with it. It was a nice
bolt, too, bright red with a big knob at one end. I was so pleased
to finally see my beloved, hunky Joe sporting a nice big basket! As
I grew older and put away the things of childhood (sigh), poor old
Joe was relegated to storage in the attic. Years later, one of my
sisters was rummaging through stuff and came across him, rifle-bolt
dick still intact. We shared a laugh over this (my queerness had
long since been established with my family), and she asked if I was
homo even way back then (roughly age 9 or 10).

I love my sis, but boy! Straights sure do ask some dumb questions
sometimes!

Conrad

*--------------------------------------------------*
| Conrad Sabatier - con...@nola.win.net |
| |
| (was csab...@nola.win.net - please don't use!) |
*--------------------------------------------------*

Mod Bob

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Feb 18, 1993, 12:30:32 PM2/18/93
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In article <1993Feb17.2...@reed.edu>, nel...@reed.edu (Nelson
Minar) wrote:

> Now to get to a topic of conversation more appopriate to motss - what
> sort of earrings should I wear? I just can't find anything I like. I'm
> still wearing that simple little silver stud. I've got a ring with a
> tiger eye bead and crescent moon on it, but that's a bit too Faerie
> for me right now. What does one wear?

Ooooh...a simple gold wire hoop, or a heavier sterling silver hoop. Under
all that hair...*swoon*

BTW, my fabulous surf buddy Beau Geste has two earrings in each ear, and
is resolutely straight. Pity.

WRT your comments on right ear piercing: one friend of mine had just his
right ear pierced, and so many people assumed he was gay that he's let
it close up. He originally had it done to challenge people's assumptions,
but having to constantly insist on his heterosexuality wore on him after
a while. Of course, the earring is why _I_ met him in the first
place...but
don't tell him that.

Bob, who wears a simple gold hoop in
his left ear, like most of the
queers in the City

K Campbell

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Feb 18, 1993, 1:27:50 PM2/18/93
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In article <smith_bob_e-...@130.252.150.115>,
smith...@tandem.com (Mod Bob) writes:
|>
|> WRT your comments on right ear piercing: one friend of mine had just his
|> right ear pierced, and so many people assumed he was gay that he's let
|> it close up.

One straight friend of mine is a bit fed up of people thinking he's
gay, and he doesn't wear any earrings at all, poor thing; he just
has this aura about him which screams "QUEEN!" so that even when he
goes to straight niteclubs (he prefers gay ones - he fits in better,
even though there aren't exactly many potential partners there for
him), it's always men who chat him up, and he has to explain patiently
that, while he has no problems at all with gay people, he's not one
of them.

Hey, that was all one sentence!

Michael S. Pettersen

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Feb 18, 1993, 5:00:40 PM2/18/93
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I had a dream last night in which I had a tit pierced. It was very
significant in the dream that it was the left tit. But when I woke
up, I couldn't remember why.

It seems a pity that I experienced the pain of the piercing and don't
have a tit ring to show for it.
--
Mike Pettersen, Ecole Normale Superieure
m...@physique.ens.fr
Perfect love casteth out fear.

Keith Duddy

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Feb 18, 1993, 9:40:46 PM2/18/93
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Richard Carels (ric...@fwi.uva.nl) wrote:
: adol...@mizar.usc.edu (adolphson) writes:
[ken's earring]
:
: Left ear? Hmm, last thursday I finally had a hole for an earring made in my
: left ear. When a friend of mine saw this, he said it was the wrong ear. He
: said most gays take the right ear and straights the left. So, my question is:

: Where do you guys have your earrings? Is my left ear OK, or is it the wrong
: ear and should I have taken the right ear, or is left also right (er, hmm,
: oh well, you understand ;-)
: I have looked around at friends, relatives and collegues and not really

: found a correlation. Is there any?
:
: RC.

I started a thread called "Earring Conventions", which people
seem to have ignored - maybe because they think I'm trying to
get a lot of people in a hotel somewhere to discuss earring,
but anyway.....

In Australia, and parts of Europe that I visited it seems that
your friend is right. Gay men wear earrings in the right ear, and
straight me in the left, but in certain places (Notably England
and Holland) this seems to hold only loosely.

Can I suggest following up in the other thread.

Keith

Piglet

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Feb 18, 1993, 11:08:04 PM2/18/93
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In article <C2MM3...@unix.amherst.edu> twpi...@unix.amherst.edu (Tim Pierce) writes:
>Anything as long as it's big. *REALLY* *BIG* *EARRINGS* catch
>everyone's attention, in my experience.
>
>And they're great icebreakers.

Should one remove them before attempting to break ice with them?


Piglet, considering testing the technique on her front steps

Kenneth Hall

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Feb 19, 1993, 12:09:00 AM2/19/93
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In article <thaaang.730037207@cwis>, tha...@cwis.unomaha.edu (John Dorrance) writes...

>ru...@nssdc.gsfc.nasa.gov (Kenneth Hall) writes:
>
>>In article <thaaang.729909850@cwis>, tha...@cwis.unomaha.edu (John Dorrance) writes...
>>>Barbie! Ken! Rusty! (Rusty? Who's this Rusty person?)
>
>>I'm Rusty if you follow the trace...
>
>Actually, when I said rusty I was trying to pick out a really dykey-
>sounding name, in response to the speculation that Barbie had a little
>plastic motss lover. I didn't even see any Rusty contributions to this
>thread before then.
>
>>Want to get really confused .....I'm also Ken
>
>This is mind-boggling.
>
>--
Actually, anybody that is somebody knows that Barbie does have a
little dish on the side. Her name is skipper, she is not exactly
the dykey type, but more like Barbie...very hollow with a totally
unrealistic figure (I'd like to met their plastic surgeon).

Well John...we now return to your regularly schedule mind boggling.

Tim Pierce

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Feb 19, 1993, 2:03:40 AM2/19/93
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>WRT your comments on right ear piercing: one friend of mine had just his
>right ear pierced, and so many people assumed he was gay that he's let
>it close up. He originally had it done to challenge people's assumptions,
>but having to constantly insist on his heterosexuality wore on him after
>a while.

Same reason I first got my right ear pierced. But then I came out.
Pity.

Tim Pierce

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Feb 19, 1993, 2:06:14 AM2/19/93
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In article <16105.2...@ohstpy.mps.ohio-state.edu> m...@ohstpy.mps.ohio-state.edu (Michael S. Pettersen) writes:

>It seems a pity that I experienced the pain of the piercing and don't
>have a tit ring to show for it.

I believe that, technically, this makes you one with the Buddha-nature
of the piercing. You should be proud, really.

Robert Swirsky

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Feb 19, 1993, 1:13:29 PM2/19/93
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In article <ALLEMANG.93...@liasun5.epfl.ch> alle...@lia.di.epfl.ch (Dean Allemang) writes:
>
>I had always been told that the straight boys believe that left is
>straight and right is gay, but that the gays know better. But if the
>straight boys believe this, then if I want to make a statment, then I
>need to move to the right ear. So I did.

I, too, have noticed this. Most gay men I know with earring wear it
in their left ear (if there's only one earring). And most strayt men
think RIGHT==GAY and LEFT==STRAIGHT.

I have mine in the right ear. A few months ago a coworker told me that
he always "knew" I was gay because I have an earring in my right ear.
(Nevermind that my lover accompanies me to all company social events,
I have his pictures all over my office, and I am quite open about it
when discussing politics over lunch, &c.)

It's amusing to think that this person must beleive that all the
Screaming Queens who skip down the halls of Adobe with earrings
in their left ears are straight.
--
"Duff Beer for Me,
Duff Beer for You,
I'll have a Duff Beer,
You'll have one, too!" -- Duff Gardens Theme Song

Michael S. Pettersen

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Feb 19, 1993, 3:51:52 PM2/19/93
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In article <C2op2...@unix.amherst.edu>, twpi...@unix.amherst.edu (Tim Pierce) writes:
> In article <16105.2...@ohstpy.mps.ohio-state.edu> m...@ohstpy.mps.ohio-state.edu (Michael S. Pettersen) writes:
>
>>It seems a pity that I experienced the pain of the piercing and don't
>>have a tit ring to show for it.
>
> I believe that, technically, this makes you one with the Buddha-nature
> of the piercing. You should be proud, really.

Grasshopper humbly accepts instruction.

Kenneth Hall

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Feb 20, 1993, 1:50:00 AM2/20/93
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In article <thaaang.730153474@cwis>, tha...@cwis.unomaha.edu (John Dorrance) writes...
>I *knew* about Skipper (she's Barbie's NAWGLA friend, you know); I
>was just hoping for a dominatrix top for poor Barbie. That little
>family needs someone with a spine...

>
>--
>tha...@cwis.unomaha.edu * John Dorrance * Disco Diva y Flamenco Chico
>
> If I wait for the rain to kiss me and undress me
> Will I look a fool - wet and a mess?

Well please do not implicate me with this Barbie... I have a
reputation to upkeep....

BTW all these notions of alternate piercing sites are starting to make
me alittle nervous. I can just see it today while I sleep...dreams of
Barbie and Skipper dolls coming after me with knitting and darning
needles.

Things that make you go Hmmmm!
Things that send you screamin into the night.

Ken (a.k.a. Rusty)

Max Meredith Vasilatos

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Feb 20, 1993, 11:41:00 PM2/20/93
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ru...@nssdc.gsfc.nasa.gov (Kenneth Hall) writes:
>tha...@cwis.unomaha.edu (John Dorrance) writes...

When I took the Dale Carnegie course, our instructor looked
so much like a Ken doll (thereby presumably subliminally teaching
us that looking that way was a good plan when ripping your way
through today's business world, uh, making friends and influencing
people or getting to yes or whatever it was) that the class got
together and presented him with a Ken doll at our post-course
we've-been-through-it-all-together love-in.

I got an award for having a Pepsodent smile.

Max
m...@athena.mit.edu

ke...@max.physics.sunysb.edu

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Feb 21, 1993, 12:26:19 AM2/21/93
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Tim Pierce writes:

>Mike Petterson writes:
>>It seems a pity that I experienced the pain of the piercing and don't
>>have a tit ring to show for it.
>
>I believe that, technically, this makes you one with the Buddha-nature
>of the piercing. You should be proud, really.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Whoops, there goes your oneness with the Buddha-nature.

--
Kenji Andrew Matsuoka Everyone in this world gets busy in a hundred ways
Department of Physics You just break the bonds and wander like a child
SUNY at Stony Brook Midday midst a field, alone, beneath a tree
A slowgoing tired hot breeze bearing the scent
of a far forest
You play the bamboo flute all the while.

Hot Young Star

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Mar 5, 1993, 2:47:37 PM3/5/93
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In article <thaaang.729909850@cwis>
tha...@cwis.unomaha.edu (John Dorrance) writes:

>Barbie! Ken! Rusty! (Rusty? Who's this Rusty person?)

Dunno, but check out the newest Ken---"Totally Hair Ken". Guaranteed to
send you into convulsions!

Brian
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Kenneth Hall

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Mar 9, 1993, 11:25:00 PM3/9/93
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In article <111...@bu.edu>, ka...@buast7.bu.edu (Hot Young Star a.k.a.
Brian ) writes...

>In article <thaaang.729909850@cwis>
>tha...@cwis.unomaha.edu (John Dorrance) writes:
>
>>Barbie! Ken! Rusty! (Rusty? Who's this Rusty person?)
>
Actually I did oil after I showed so I am not a rusty person...
Just Rusty

that is Ru...@nssdc.gsfc.nasa.gov


>Dunno, but check out the newest Ken---"Totally Hair Ken". Guaranteed to
>send you into convulsions!
>

I know I need a haircut but what have they done to my hair now!!!
I just hate a bad haircut.

With hair in my eyes....Rusty

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