motss historical artifact
Mike Jankulak
on Facebook, some are on Flickr, some on people's own websites.
There are also some videos, on Facebook at least. So I got to
wondering, are there videos of us on youtube?
So I started doing vanity searches on youtube. Nothing on my
last name, or Sim's, so, huh. I tried youtubing for "motss."
And oh, my, g*d:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_WNfUW70cYo
It's the 1991 Toronto motss.con. It was posted last October
by someone using the name AirUrso. We watched it here in the
Aberlak household. Sim identifies Steve Dyer (I've never met
him). At one point, Max's voice is heard oh so clearly, the
same as we all heard last weekend, it's wonderful, and strange,
this is 18 freakin' years ago, people.
Who can watch this thing and tell me more about it, and who
is in it, and who remembers being there? I want to hear.
jank+, so okay I can still be surprised by the interwebs
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Robert S. Coren
Mike Jankulak <jank...@panix.com> wrote:
>So there are pictures from the .con, like, online. Some are
>on Facebook, some are on Flickr, some on people's own websites.
>There are also some videos, on Facebook at least. So I got to
>wondering, are there videos of us on youtube?
>
>So I started doing vanity searches on youtube. Nothing on my
>last name, or Sim's, so, huh. I tried youtubing for "motss."
>And oh, my, g*d:
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_WNfUW70cYo
>
>It's the 1991 Toronto motss.con. It was posted last October
>by someone using the name AirUrso.
AirUrso is presumably Urso Chappell, who was then posting to soc.motss
and living in Toronto (he now does neither -- he's on LJ as "urso" and
I think he's in the Bay Area).
>We watched it here in the
>Aberlak household. Sim identifies Steve Dyer (I've never met
>him). At one point, Max's voice is heard oh so clearly, the
>same as we all heard last weekend, it's wonderful, and strange,
>this is 18 freakin' years ago, people.
>
>Who can watch this thing and tell me more about it, and who
>is in it, and who remembers being there? I want to hear.
John and I were there -- it was our first .con. It's kind of late at
night, so I'll look at it tomorrow. From a casual glance, I'm going to
spend a lot of time saying "Oh yeah, what was his/her name again? I
wonder whatever happened to him/her."
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Kathryn
>
> It's the 1991 Toronto motss.con. It was posted last October
> by someone using the name AirUrso. We watched it here in the
> Aberlak household. Sim identifies Steve Dyer (I've never met
> him). At one point, Max's voice is heard oh so clearly, the
> same as we all heard last weekend, it's wonderful, and strange,
> this is 18 freakin' years ago, people.
I can't be sure if I saw a woman in there at the park, aside from
Max's wonderful voice
Ned Deily
>Jank+:
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_WNfUW70cYo
>>It's the 1991 Toronto motss.con. It was posted last October
>>by someone using the name AirUrso.
>>We watched it here in the
>>Aberlak household. Sim identifies Steve Dyer (I've never met
>>him). At one point, Max's voice is heard oh so clearly, the
>>same as we all heard last weekend, it's wonderful, and strange,
>>this is 18 freakin' years ago, people.
>>
>>Who can watch this thing and tell me more about it, and who
>>is in it, and who remembers being there? I want to hear.
>
>John and I were there -- it was our first .con. It's kind of late at
>night, so I'll look at it tomorrow. From a casual glance, I'm going to
>spend a lot of time saying "Oh yeah, what was his/her name again? I
>wonder whatever happened to him/her."
I believe I saw glimpses of a Tattooed Butch Smurf and of a certain
panda, besides Steve and a few others I recognize from the MOW and/or
the Boston Con - my first - two years later.
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> > It's the 1991 Toronto motss.con. It was posted last October
> > At one point, Max's voice is heard oh so clearly, the
> > same as we all heard last weekend, it's wonderful, and strange,
> > this is 18 freakin' years ago, people.
> [kathryn]
> I can't be sure if I saw a woman in there at the park, aside from
> Max's wonderful voice
I'm not sure there was one - a very vague (remember, it's 18yr ago)
memory billed that as a "bear-B-Q"; but I could be wrong. I don't
remember very many XY individuals there.
ailuropoda melanoleuca torontonensis
this was five or six years before my panda persona
ailuropoda melanoleuca torontonensis
> >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_WNfUW70cYo
> >>It's the 1991 Toronto motss.con. It was posted last October
> >>by someone using the name AirUrso.
> [...]
> >>We watched it here in the Aberlak household.
I need to watch it again this evening. The venue my laptop sits in is
fairly bright, and the video is really rather dark.
> >>it's wonderful, and strange,
> >>this is 18 freakin' years ago, people.
indeed. This .con was my very first connection with soc.motss - I
didn't have net connections (or email- oh those blissful quiet
times). I was at that point just finishing a somewhat desultory 3mo
dating relationship with Brian Jarvis, one of the two organisers, and
he basically told me I was coming, which I did. I only got to two
events - the opening bunfight, in the party room of Brian (and roomie
John Schrag, the other co-host)'s apartment building at 15 McMurrich
(Yonge and Davenport); and this picnic event, which was on Toronto
Island. The boat shown is the *Ongiara*, the ferry that has an open
deck to take service vehicles to/from the Island. Ongiara shuttles to
Hanlan's Point, and the picnic was about a 5min walk from the ferry
terminal. (the lake, as opposed to the harbour, side of Hanlans is
now the clothing optional beach. It wasn't official in 1991, and I
dont recall us going to the lake/beach at all)
I don't recognise anyone at all, though Brian / John / Moi are the
only ones I'm fairly sure were there and whose faces I can recall
without seeing a photo prompt.
> >>Who can watch this thing and tell me more about it, and who
> >>is in it, and who remembers being there? I want to hear.
> > [robert]
> >John and I were there -- it was our first .con. It's kind of late at
> >night, so I'll look at it tomorrow. From a casual glance, I'm going to
> >spend a lot of time saying "Oh yeah, what was his/her name again? I
> >wonder whatever happened to him/her."
I hope you can do better than that with a better viewing - but like
you, I'm having 18yr old "er-um-yup-um...." reactions to much of it.
> [ned]
> I believe I saw glimpses of a Tattooed Butch Smurf and of a certain
> panda, besides Steve and a few others I recognize from the MOW and/or
> the Boston Con - my first - two years later.
I haven't seen TBS / Paul for a LONG time - Brian was still working
for the University of Toronto, and he's been in MD/DC for a decade
now. I'll point Brian to this thread, he might have better memories,
even though he's very rarely seen hereabouts these days.
yr panda was indeed there, as I said, though I'm not sure how
recognisable. the beard would have been all-dark-brown, and much more
hair on the head. (sigh)
thanks for this blast-from-the-past, mike
.
crouching chemist, hidden panda
Robert S. Coren
Robert S. Coren <co...@panix.com> wrote:
>In article <h2jtvn$2p5$1...@reader1.panix.com>,
>Mike Jankulak <jank...@panix.com> wrote:
>>So there are pictures from the .con, like, online. Some are
>>on Facebook, some are on Flickr, some on people's own websites.
>>There are also some videos, on Facebook at least. So I got to
>>wondering, are there videos of us on youtube?
>>
>>So I started doing vanity searches on youtube. Nothing on my
>>last name, or Sim's, so, huh. I tried youtubing for "motss."
>>And oh, my, g*d:
>>
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_WNfUW70cYo
>>
>>It's the 1991 Toronto motss.con. It was posted last October
>>by someone using the name AirUrso.
>
>AirUrso is presumably Urso Chappell, who was then posting to soc.motss
>and living in Toronto (he now does neither -- he's on LJ as "urso" and
>I think he's in the Bay Area).
On reflection, I think I'm partly mistaken about this -- I now think
that Urso was at that time resident in Atlanta, and that he moved to
Toronto shortly afterward (possibly as a result of a connection made
at the .con?). I'm pretty sure that the person who appears at the very
beginning and very end of the video is Urso hinself.
>>We watched it here in the
>>Aberlak household. Sim identifies Steve Dyer (I've never met
>>him). At one point, Max's voice is heard oh so clearly, the
>>same as we all heard last weekend, it's wonderful, and strange,
>>this is 18 freakin' years ago, people.
>>
>>Who can watch this thing and tell me more about it, and who
>>is in it, and who remembers being there? I want to hear.
>
>John and I were there -- it was our first .con. It's kind of late at
>night, so I'll look at it tomorrow. From a casual glance, I'm going to
>spend a lot of time saying "Oh yeah, what was his/her name again? I
>wonder whatever happened to him/her."
I recognize very few of these folks, other than the aforementioned
Steve Dyer and Urso. I think there's a brief glimpse of the Trawna
Panda at the (viewer's) right-hand end of the line of walkers at about
3:35, but I wouldn't swear to it.
The motorcyclist who gives Steve a ride is Ken Dykes, I'm pretty
sure. The shortish guy with the trimmed but full black beard and the
ponytail who shows up in several of the early sequences *might* be JI
Ioannides (if I've got that name right).
There does seem to be rather a "bear" emphasis in the video, which is
not altogether surprising if they were taken by Urso. There were,
IIRC, several mostly or exclusively "ursine" events at that con, some
of which I attended and some not. (Neither John nor I appear in any of
the video, AFAICT.)
As Chris noted, there were not many women at that con. The only ones I
can remember for sure besides Max are Mara and Laura Creighton.
And mention of Mara in this context reminds me of one of my favorite
lines in all con history, although I only heard it second-hand. Mara's
Marty (otherwise The Mongoose) was also present, and had apparently
gotten the idea that "con" stood for "conference", and kept waiting to
be sent off to entertain himself while we "offical motssers"
transacted whatever business we had gathered to transact. By sometime
Sunday, he was sufficiently curious about this to ask when it was
going to happen, whereupon it was explained to him (by Mara?) that
what he had observed and participated in so far *was* the "business"
of the con; his response:
"You mean all it is is one big *party*?"
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Joe Fineman
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_WNfUW70cYo
>
> It's the 1991 Toronto motss.con.
Woof!
I was not there. However, I believe I recognize Tom Dekker, the blind
cub from Toronto, in the last scene.
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Robert S. Coren
>jank...@panix.com (Mike Jankulak) writes:
>
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_WNfUW70cYo
>>
>> It's the 1991 Toronto motss.con.
>
>Woof!
>
>I was not there. However, I believe I recognize Tom Dekker, the blind
>cub from Toronto, in the last scene.
Oh, right! I couldn't remember his name for the life of me.
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Max Vasilatos
>>Mike Jankulak <jank...@panix.com> wrote:
>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_WNfUW70cYo
>>>
>>>It's the 1991 Toronto motss.con. It was posted last October
>>>by someone using the name AirUrso.
> As Chris noted, there were not many women at that con. The only ones I
> can remember for sure besides Max are Mara and Laura Creighton.
My Stephanie was there, and Tovah was there.
Jed Davis
> The motorcyclist who gives Steve a ride is Ken Dykes, I'm pretty
> sure. The shortish guy with the trimmed but full black beard and the
> ponytail who shows up in several of the early sequences *might* be JI
> Ioannides (if I've got that name right).
"Ioannidis", and if that's him then he's changed quite a bit since.
The world being small, he knows one of my ex-cow-orkers from Panix, and
so we've met through that connection. (In fact, I saw him just last
weekend.) The world is also small in that he's a coauthor on a paper of
note from ~20 years ago that I ran across a while back in a context
which is neither of those.
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>co...@panix.com (Robert S. Coren) writes:
>> The motorcyclist who gives Steve a ride is Ken Dykes, I'm pretty
>> sure. The shortish guy with the trimmed but full black beard and the
>> ponytail who shows up in several of the early sequences *might* be JI
>> Ioannides (if I've got that name right).
>"Ioannidis", and if that's him then he's changed quite a bit since.
Nope, that's not him.
>The world being small, he knows one of my ex-cow-orkers from Panix, and
>so we've met through that connection.
More than one of your ex-cow-orkers.
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