10 year old refuses to pledge allegiance
Ciaran McHale
allegiance to the flag until gays and lesbians have equal
rights." Predictably, some students responded by calling
him homophobic names.
The article quotes him saying "I really don�t feel that
there�s currently liberty and justice for all."
http://www.pinknews.co.uk/2009/11/13/boy-10-refuses-to-pledge-allegiance-over-gay-equality/
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JTEM
Ciaran McHale <ciaran_mchale_NOS...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
> "A ten-year-old boy from Arkansas has refused to pledge
> allegiance to the flag until gays and lesbians have equal
> rights." Predictably, some students responded by calling
> him homophobic names.
A 10 year old? In [Pirate]-Kansas?
Amazing.
> The article quotes him saying "I really don’t feel that
> there’s currently liberty and justice for all."
>
> http://www.pinknews.co.uk/2009/11/13/boy-10-refuses-to-pledge-allegia...
Amazing.
David Kaye
>"A ten-year-old boy from Arkansas has refused to pledge
>allegiance to the flag until gays and lesbians have equal
>rights." Predictably, some students responded by calling
>him homophobic names.
What's more, the Pledge originally appeared as a small poem in a kids'
magazine. Politicians kept adding gingoistic words to it until it became so
wretched that it makes the U.S. sound like a nazi nation.
Of course, the Star Spangled Banner started out as a drinking song paying
homage to the hedonist, Anachreon...
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Arne Adolfsen
> What's more, the Pledge originally appeared as a small poem in a kids'
> magazine. Politicians kept adding gingoistic words to it until it became so
> wretched that it makes the U.S. sound like a nazi nation.
Those gingoistic words that politicians *kept
adding* to the Pledge of Allegiance were "under
God". That took place in 1954. Once. Just those
two words. Added all at once.
> Of course, the Star Spangled Banner started out as a drinking song paying
> homage to the hedonist, Anachreon...
When we should all be singing "La Cucaracha"
instead, right?
Arne
Jed Davis
> Of course, the Star Spangled Banner started out as a drinking song paying
> homage to the hedonist, Anacreon...
Which strikes as an improvement, really: replacing a bunch of drunken
heterosexuality with Stuff Blowing Up and textile arts. (And it's only
got a *little* god in it, down at the end where nobody goes.)
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Arne Adolfsen
> sfdavi...@yahoo.com (David Kaye) writes:
> > Of course, the Star Spangled Banner started out as a drinking song paying
> > homage to the hedonist, Anacreon...
> Which strikes as an improvement, really: replacing a bunch of drunken
> heterosexuality with Stuff Blowing Up and textile arts. (And it's only
> got a *little* god in it, down at the end where nobody goes.)
You're talking about men from the Home of the Brave
trusting in, ummm, God?, before Tiptoeing through
the Tulips towards the den of He Who Is All Things
TLBG, where Angels Fear to Tread?
Or something?
Arne
David Kaye
>You're talking about men from the Home of the Brave
[....]
When I was a kid we used to sing about the "home of the Braves" and couldn't
figure out why were were celebrating a baseball team.
Of course we also had a tendency to say, "I pledge OF allegiance to the
flag..."
David Kaye
>Those gingoistic words that politicians *kept
>adding* to the Pledge of Allegiance were "under
>God". That took place in 1954. Once. Just those
>two words. Added all at once.
No, there was another gingoistic change. The original pledge was " I Pledge
Allegiance to my Flag and the Republic for which it stands, one nation
indivisible with liberty and justice for all."
In the 1920s "my flag" was changed to "the flag of the United States of
America", due to anti-immigrant sentiment then rampant in the U.S.
Rod Williams
> > What's more, the Pledge originally appeared as a small poem in a kids'
> > magazine. Politicians kept adding gingoistic words to it until it became so
> > wretched that it makes the U.S. sound like a nazi nation.
Arne:
> Those gingoistic words that politicians *kept
> adding* to the Pledge of Allegiance were "under
> God". That took place in 1954. Once. Just those
> two words. Added all at once.
It's gingko, dammit!
Ken Rudolph
> Arne Adolfsen<adol...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>
>> Those gingoistic words that politicians *kept
>> adding* to the Pledge of Allegiance were "under
>> God". That took place in 1954. Once. Just those
>> two words. Added all at once.
>
> No, there was another gingoistic change. The original pledge was " I Pledge
> Allegiance to my Flag and the Republic for which it stands, one nation
> indivisible with liberty and justice for all."
>
> In the 1920s "my flag" was changed to "the flag of the United States of
> America", due to anti-immigrant sentiment then rampant in the U.S.
I wasn't around in 1920 for that change; but when they changed it in
1954 I was pissed. Not so much for the God part...rather that it
really screwed up the rhythm.
--Ken Rudolph
Arne Adolfsen
> David Kaye wrote:
> > No, there was another gingoistic change. The original pledge was " I Pledge
> > Allegiance to my Flag and the Republic for which it stands, one nation
> > indivisible with liberty and justice for all."
> >
> > In the 1920s "my flag" was changed to "the flag of the United States of
> > America", due to anti-immigrant sentiment then rampant in the U.S.
Thank my blessed beads and amulets that
anti-immigrant sentiment is a thing of the past.
> I wasn't around in 1920 for that change; but when they changed it in
> 1954 I was pissed. Not so much for the God part...rather that it
> really screwed up the rhythm.
Oh, then you'd have loved that Georgian (Floridian?
South Carolinian?) Congresscritter who recently
shouted the words to an adoring crowd: one nation,
under God, with liberty and justice for all.
Gosh, I just love them racist, er, separatist, er,
STATE'S RIGHTS politicians.
Arne
JohnN
wrote:
> "A ten-year-old boy from Arkansas has refused to pledge
> allegiance to the flag until gays and lesbians have equal
> rights."
The terrorists have won. Or so Glen Beck will say.
JohnN
David Kaye
>Thank my blessed beads and amulets that
>anti-immigrant sentiment is a thing of the past.
I never said it was, bozo. But it has cycled up and down over the years.
Arne Adolfsen
>
> Arne Adolfsen <adol...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>
> >Thank my blessed beads and amulets that
> >anti-immigrant sentiment is a thing of the past.
>
> I never said it was, bozo. But it has cycled up and down over the years.
Between the 1920s and now, 90 years later,
pro-immigrant sentiment has been expressed where and
when? I'm trying to think what you might be talking
about -- Japanese-American citizens with gardening
businesses on Jefferson in near-USC downtown LA or
along Sawtelle in Westwood during the early 1940s?
Ummm, Mexican-American citizens in Boyle Heights and
East LA generally, and elsewhere in the US, during
the Zoot Suit riots phenomenon?
My favorito PRO-immigrant event in my lifetime is
when Mohammed al-Fassi's Swanktaculous Beverly Hills
mansion on Sunset Blvd was burned to the ground in
1979 or 1980 because true-blue Americans assumed
that any towelhead was an Iraniac holding our
hostages, er, hostage in our embassy in Teheran.
Yay immigrants! I would have burned the place down
on aesthetic grounds alone: life-sized copies of
Greco-Roman statues, placed on plinths around the
five or six acre property situated right on
traffic-heavy Sunset Blvd. Oh, did I mention that
these statues were painted in naturalistic colors,
down to their pubic hair and, ahem, blue-ish veins
on the penises of the uncircumsized males of the
statues? The hideous brownish-green copper roof on
the mansion was bad enough, but those Venus de Milo
and Poseidon and Apollo statues were a bit too
much. But yay!! Saudi princes with no taste!
Surprisingly, al-Fassi's artistic tastes seemed to
be on a par with the crowd who continue to weap when
they see the da Vinci "Last Supper" rendered in
crummy stained glass at Forest Lawn Glendale. "The
Loved One" -- book and film -- doesn't even compare
to the reality that is Forest Lawn -- Glendale,
Hollywood Hills, you name it. Jeanette MacDonald's
wee "Scottish" chapel where she was eulogized now
pipes out her recording of "Ah, Sweet Mystery of
Life" on an endless tape-loop. And Babyland! A
heart-shaped parcel of land devoted to the graves of
toddlers! But then there's the sublimely strange
kiddie grave section that is under water that you
crisscross on little bridges. The last time I was
there I felt like stocking the burial pond with koi.
Oh, but I've gone way off-topic. Let's talk about
Glennnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn Beck! Take back America!
And those immigrationists, um, take back America.
Arne, weaping copiously
Ellen Evans
Arne Adolfsen <adol...@earthlink.net> wrote:
[]
>Oh, then you'd have loved that Georgian (Floridian?
>South Carolinian?) Congresscritter who recently
>shouted the words to an adoring crowd: one nation,
>under God, with liberty and justice for all.
Actually, he told the adoring crowd that it was the "under God" part that
really pissed off the liberals and then commenced leading the pledge,
which, it turns out, he didn't know all the words of.
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je...@panix.com just be true, and that's unacceptable.
Carrie Fisher
Ken Rudolph
> In article<4B0530A2...@earthlink.net>,
> Arne Adolfsen<adol...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>
> []
>
>> Oh, then you'd have loved that Georgian (Floridian?
>> South Carolinian?) Congresscritter who recently
>> shouted the words to an adoring crowd: one nation,
>> under God, with liberty and justice for all.
>
> Actually, he told the adoring crowd that it was the "under God" part that
> really pissed off the liberals and then commenced leading the pledge,
> which, it turns out, he didn't know all the words of.
Wait a moment. Who's to say that a Southerner wouldn't deliberately
leave out the word "indivisible"?
--Ken Rudolph (ready for California to secede any time now.)
Robert S. Coren
I thought California was supposed to divide, not secede (or maybe
divide and then secede, or the other way around).
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--a soc.motss lurker, referring to me
Ellen Evans
You're giving him *way* too much credit.
Frank McQuarry
> In article <I7ednYva45nHIZvW...@supernews.com>,
> Ken Rudolph <ke...@nospamkenru.net> wrote:
>> Ellen Evans wrote:
>>> In article<4B0530A2...@earthlink.net>,
>>> Arne Adolfsen<adol...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>>>
>>> []
>>>
>>>> Oh, then you'd have loved that Georgian (Floridian?
>>>> South Carolinian?) Congresscritter who recently
>>>> shouted the words to an adoring crowd: one nation,
>>>> under God, with liberty and justice for all.
>>> Actually, he told the adoring crowd that it was the "under God" part that
>>> really pissed off the liberals and then commenced leading the pledge,
>>> which, it turns out, he didn't know all the words of.
>> Wait a moment. Who's to say that a Southerner wouldn't deliberately
>> leave out the word "indivisible"?
>>
>> --Ken Rudolph (ready for California to secede any time now.)
>
> I thought California was supposed to divide, not secede (or maybe
> divide and then secede, or the other way around).
I've been hearing all my life that California will fall into the ocean.
Max Vasilatos
news:S46dnWAJwf69bJrW...@earthlink.com...
> I've been hearing all my life that California will fall into the ocean.
Hey, that's what my father says! "Anyone who lives in California is
crazy... It's going to fall in the ocean." and he was born there.
I live on bedrock, baby.
News Journalism
origin of the Nazi salute. The straight-arm gesture in the early
Pledge of Allegiance arose because Bellamy began the pledge (1892)
with a military salute that was then extended out toward the flag. The
Pledge was the origin of the salute adopted later by the National
Socialist German Workers Party, as shown in the discoveries of the
symbologist Dr. Rex Curry (author of “Pledge of Allegiance Secrets”).
Bellamy was also a socialist in the Nationalism movement long before
German National Socialism. Francis Bellamy and Edward Bellamy
influenced the National Socialist German Workers Party and its dogma,
symbols and rituals (e.g. robotic collective chanting to flags et
cetera). Francis Bellamy did not lift the gesture from the so-called
"ancient Roman salute" myth. The concept and phrase "roman salute" did
not exist when Bellamy created the pledge (see the Oxford English
Dictionary which supports Dr. Curry). No one should cite wikipedia as
it is an anonymous bulletin board. Even wakipedia does not say
(usually) that it was an ancient Roman salute (however wakipedia
changes by the millisecond, and is often deliberately misleading).
Jess Anderson
[screed elided]
Dude! Credibility attaches only to statements by actual
persons, not to abstractions like "News Journalism"
masquerading as experts. So, come out or shut up.
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Spencer
characteristically out, and Churchill, with his fingers in the
characteristic archers "V".
The caption reads; "scissors beats paper".
Oh, and by the way, happy "pretend to be a time-traveler day."
Nils K. Hammer
Arne Adolfsen
> Almost related, Someone has pictures of uncle Adolph,
Adolph Menjou wouldn't have hurt a lamb.
Parenthetically: this characteristic misspelling of
an overly familiar name by morons always sends me
off dreaming about Gyorgy Burningbush and his mother
Barbarian Burningbushithead, the bitch-from-hell to
end all bitches from hell.
> with his hand
> characteristically out, and Churchill, with his fingers in the
> characteristic archers "V".
Hey, I took archery in high school and stuff. Was I
not good enough because I couldn't figure out how to
do the hokey-pokey, I mean, form the characteristic
archers "V" with my fingers?
> The caption reads; "scissors beats paper".
Oh, my Gott in Himmell! "Rolf! Call in the Palin
support crew! I think we've got a live-wire Russki
here."
> Oh, and by the way, happy "pretend to be a time-traveler day."
I just feel myself all lovin' and stuff to hear that
Sarah Palin dropped out of one of the five colleges
she attended, the University of Hawaii, because
there were too many Asians there and it made her
feel all icky. And stuff.
> Nils K. Hammer
My grandfather's name was Sigurd Adolfsen,
"Spencer", what was your grandfather's name? Oh, I
forgot, you're now "Nils K. Hammer". Let's rap
about HammerTime!
Arne
JTEM
Arne Adolfsen <adolf...@earthlink.net> wrote:
> I just feel myself all lovin' and stuff to hear that
> Sarah Palin dropped out of one of the five colleges
> she attended, the University of Hawaii, because
> there were too many Asians there and it made her
> feel all icky. And stuff.
You know, that's an idea....
What if we figured out a way to turn them into fuel
for our cars? That way they could not only produce
so many quality products for us to buy at Walmart,
but they could help us get there!
synthi...@yahoo.com
That is a computer malfunction. Playing paranoid, I'll pretend that it
is to annoy me, since my usual way of posting is to make a vanity
search of google groups and reply to myself, which won't work well
when my name has been changed.
I've been "Nils K. Hammer" since 11 December 1957. I don't recall
when my 15 min. of MOTSS fame was, but it's been some years, and I've
only come up with one or two poems since then.
>what was your grandfather's name?
Sigmund I. Hammer, famed for his paper "Vertical Attenuations in
Airborne Gravimetry". No one has felt like looking into it, but this
work may have led to the discovery of, oh, let's say, about a third of
our current oil reserves? Maybe half? He is very famous amoung the
Earth-Scientists.
> Let's rap about HammerTime!
Oh, let's not. When I had the embarrassing airport-security job,
enthusiastic co-workers would reference that often, and I never really
had a cute colloquial comeback for it.
Nils K. Hammer