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Kirk Johanning

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This is the long awaited TwinkCode (tm) Version 1.00.

Since hair color seems to be a determining factor in whether someone
is a twink, I will start with that. Using a capital "T" to denote
"Twink" I have come up with the following hair color scale:

9 - BLONDE (must be natural). All hair on body is blonde.

8 - mostly blonde. Most of the hair on body is blonde.

7 - strawberry blonde

6 - bright red

5 - dark red

4 - auburn

3 - light brown

2 - brown

1 - dark brown

0 - black (raven)

If hair is colored the original color should be included in
parentheses, such as: T8(3)

-------------------------------------------------------------------------

h - the 'hairlessness' factor (opposite of NBCS "f") refers to
body hair.

h++ SMOOTH body - virtually no hair
h+ little hair
h some hair
(none) average body hair
h- above average body hair
h-- veritable furball (could be considered a bear)

There are four more subclasses:
c - refers to chest
b - refers to butt
l - refers to legs
s - refers to shin (part of leg below the knee)
They are to be used as follows:
if you have a smooth chest, yet hair starting at the
butt and below the code might be "hc++b-",
if you have a smooth chest and butt with moderately
hairy legs it might be "h++l", etc.

If 'hairlessness' is a result of shaving or depilatories
you should first list the current state and then list the
original in parenthesis. For example, if I were to shave
all my hair off it would be "h++(++s)" as I have little body
hair to begin with. Another example might be if I would
normally be shaved smooth but am currently letting what
body hair I have grow then it would be h++s(++).

-------------------------------------------------------------------------

b - the brain factor

b++ The ultimate, brainless twink
b+ below average
(none) average mental activity; may use dictionary
b has brains and may use them occasionally
b- above average and uses his often
b-- genius (it's amazing but some are actually smart)

-------------------------------------------------------------------------

a - attitude

a++ attitude from hell; has enough for 20
a+ above average
a has attitude and knows how to use it
(none) attitude at times
a- mostly unpretentious
a-- no attitude, what you see is what you get.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------

w - the WHINE factor

w++ Will scream "I'm BOOOORRRRRRED" while you're
still home and just getting dressed
w+ Will state "I'm boooorrrrrred" immediately upon
arrival at destination
w Will whine, even when not needed
(none) Lets his displeasure be known when appropriate
w- Usually silent, but a peep may be heard every
now and then
w-- Strong, silent type

-------------------------------------------------------------------------

c - color of crust (tan)

c++ dark brown
c+ a nice golden brown
c the twink has a tan
(none) doesn't get out much
c- fair skin
c-- looks like a ghost

-------------------------------------------------------------------------

y - youthful appearance

y++ looks like he might have reached puberty
y+ still gets carded most every time he buys liquor
y looks college aged
(none) looks like he has been out of college for a while
y- looks like somebody's dad
y-- looks like somebody's grandfather

-------------------------------------------------------------------------

e - endowment (for the size queens amongst us)

e++ 8"+
e+ 6.5" - 8"
e 5.5" - 6.5"
(none) neutral
e- do you really want to let people know?
e-- you may not have much but you have guts

-------------------------------------------------------------------------

g - gonads (balls)

g++ huge and bursting with cream
g+ large and cream filled
g above average
(none) has two
g- do you really want to let people know?
g-- you may not have much but you have guts

-------------------------------------------------------------------------

f - flavor of cream

f++ very sweet, almost sickly, could be interchanged
with filling of actual Hostess Twinky (tm)
f+ sweet
f pleasant
(none) unremarkable
f- slightly bitter
f-- grapefruits taste better

-------------------------------------------------------------------------

t - twink hawk

t++ searches out twinkies when ever possible. Looks
for the most hairless, blonde, tan twink.
t+ really likes twinkies
t would like to meet a twinkie
(none) not a twink hawk
t- doesn't care for twinkies
t-- is offended by them (why are you even here?)

-------------------------------------------------------------------------

k - "the KINKY factor"... for those who dare.

k++ likes just about EVERYTHING... we mean *EVERYTHING*!!!
k+ picks and choose according to likes; willing to
consider new ideas
k open minded. Might choose SOME things on the "menu"
(none) kinky neutral
k- has definite ABSOLUTE dislikes
k-- totally vanilla

-------------------------------------------------------------------------

s - "SEX (ok, SLUT) factor

s++ strictly polygamous, prefers very open relationships
ONLY.
s+ will form relationships which are generally open-ended
s neutral wrt to relationships/monogamy.
(none) relationship neutral
s- relationship oriented. Prefers a formal sort of
relationship over playing around, however the
scope of the word relationship is not defined here.
s-- strictly monogamously/relationship oriented. No
outside affairs, or in some cases, sex ONLY in
relationships

-------------------------------------------------------------------------

m - "the MUSCLE factor"... for those who like meat on them bones.

m++ Arnold Schwartzeneger is that you?
m+ definitely works out
m some definition
(none) muscle neutral

-------------------------------------------------------------------------

q - "the Q factor" (defined)
q++ more effeminate than Donna Reed, Florence
Henderson, and RuPaul combined
q+ swishes so much they sway
q is a queen
q- "straight-acting"
q-- probably should BE straight

-------------------------------------------------------------------------

ADDITIONAL PUNCTUATION
The following aren't graded, they are just flags attached to the
overall classification:

v for variable, said trait is not very rigid, may
change with time or with individual interaction

? for traits where there is no HARD information
available and the value is completely guessed

: for traits which are observed but uncertain,
eg. a twink who is wearing a lot of clothes, so
you can't be SURE he's an h+, but his forearms
REALLY suggest that he is, hence h+:

! for cases where the trait is as close to a
prototype as possible, or an exemplary case of
a specific trait... eg. the ultimate h++!

() for indicating "cross-overs" or ranges. A twink
who goes from k to k++ depending on the situation
(ie mostly "k") could use k(++)

You can make the punctuation as detailed as desired, although
the best ones to read are the ones which are the most clear and
simple to understand.

Some of this was taken/copied from the NBCS Version 1.09 without
permission (don't know if any is really needed).
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TC(v1.0): T2 h++s(++) b- a- y e+ g+ f+ t++ k s- q-

Matthew Melmon

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Very good! Very good! Well done, yes, yes. Give yourself
a blow job... No! Wait! GAYLON! C'mere....

In article <1qh4iv$e...@hpscit.sc.hp.com>, k...@atl.hp.com (Kirk Johanning)
wrote:

> This is the long awaited TwinkCode (tm) Version 1.00.
>
> Since hair color seems to be a determining factor in whether someone
> is a twink, I will start with that. Using a capital "T" to denote
> "Twink" I have come up with the following hair color scale:

It was suggested to me in e-mail - and quite a clever suggestion -
and it is entirely my fault I did not act upon the suggestion
quicker - that 'T' stand for "yumminess." But hair color will do.

*X*

Matthew Melmon

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Apr 14, 1993, 12:35:08 PM4/14/93
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*X*
T5(2) b(++) a++! w((++!/--)v) y(+) e f t(++v) k(++) s(++/--) q((++/--)v)

Andrew Terrance Trembley

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Apr 14, 1993, 6:24:52 PM4/14/93
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From article <1qh4iv$e...@hpscit.sc.hp.com>, by k...@atl.hp.com (Kirk Johanning):

>
> This is the long awaited TwinkCode (tm) Version 1.00.
>

Please, we're trying to design this by committee, don't go taking over
without asking permission. But since there are some good ideas, here's my
comments.

> Since hair color seems to be a determining factor in whether someone
> is a twink, I will start with that. Using a capital "T" to denote
> "Twink" I have come up with the following hair color scale:
>
> 9 - BLONDE (must be natural). All hair on body is blonde.
> 8 - mostly blonde. Most of the hair on body is blonde.
> 7 - strawberry blonde
> 6 - bright red
> 5 - dark red
> 4 - auburn
> 3 - light brown
> 2 - brown
> 1 - dark brown
> 0 - black (raven)
>
> If hair is colored the original color should be included in
> parentheses, such as: T8(3)

I like the idea of a hair-color code. It's an important twink feature.


> h - the 'hairlessness' factor (opposite of NBCS "f") refers to
> body hair.
>
> h++ SMOOTH body - virtually no hair
> h+ little hair
> h some hair
> (none) average body hair
> h- above average body hair
> h-- veritable furball (could be considered a bear)
>
> There are four more subclasses:
> c - refers to chest
> b - refers to butt
> l - refers to legs
> s - refers to shin (part of leg below the knee)
> They are to be used as follows:
> if you have a smooth chest, yet hair starting at the
> butt and below the code might be "hc++b-",
> if you have a smooth chest and butt with moderately
> hairy legs it might be "h++l", etc.

I like the hairlesness code, but I'm not sure that I agree with your
sequence of ++ to --. While lack of hair is nice in many twinks, there are
exceptions. I think NCBS has it right when they use + to mean more and - to
mean less (and if they choose to read better or worse into that, it's their
fault).

> b - the brain factor
> b++ The ultimate, brainless twink
> b+ below average
> (none) average mental activity; may use dictionary
> b has brains and may use them occasionally
> b- above average and uses his often
> b-- genius (it's amazing but some are actually smart)

Again, I'd reverse the ++/-- order, and use to designate amount of
intelligence. That or change it to an "airhead" code where ++ is more
airheaded than --.

> a - attitude
> a++ attitude from hell; has enough for 20
> a+ above average
> a has attitude and knows how to use it
> (none) attitude at times
> a- mostly unpretentious
> a-- no attitude, what you see is what you get.

I like this one. ++/-- works the way I like it to. Perhaps if we can find
another description so we can use 'a' for airhead.

> w - the WHINE factor
> w++ Will scream "I'm BOOOORRRRRRED" while you're
> still home and just getting dressed
> w+ Will state "I'm boooorrrrrred" immediately upon
> arrival at destination
> w Will whine, even when not needed
> (none) Lets his displeasure be known when appropriate
> w- Usually silent, but a peep may be heard every
> now and then
> w-- Strong, silent type

Again, I like the format (and met a w++ this weekend at a SF con, who was
sitting in the hot tub complaining about how lonely he was).

> c - color of crust (tan)
> c++ dark brown
> c+ a nice golden brown
> c the twink has a tan
> (none) doesn't get out much
> c- fair skin
> c-- looks like a ghost

like the format, again

> y - youthful appearance
> y++ looks like he might have reached puberty
> y+ still gets carded most every time he buys liquor
> y looks college aged
> (none) looks like he has been out of college for a while
> y- looks like somebody's dad
> y-- looks like somebody's grandfather

I like the format. I'm not so sure about the 'y++' (and here's me bitching
about good/bad implications above, but I'm just not interested in barely
post-pubescent looking boys). And there isn't any real difference between
'y+' and 'y' because 3/4ths of college age students (if they're making it
thru in 4 years) are under the legal drinking age. Perhaps:
y++ looks like teen spirit


y+ still gets carded most every time he buys liquor

y looks twentysomething

> e - endowment (for the size queens amongst us)
> e++ 8"+
> e+ 6.5" - 8"
> e 5.5" - 6.5"
> (none) neutral
> e- do you really want to let people know?
> e-- you may not have much but you have guts

Better designed than bearcode. More specific. But it means I have to get
out the ruler, and we have to define how we're measuring.

> g - gonads (balls)
> g++ huge and bursting with cream
> g+ large and cream filled
> g above average
> (none) has two
> g- do you really want to let people know?
> g-- you may not have much but you have guts

???? I suppose that someone might care a whole hell a lot about this, but I
don't really.

> f - flavor of cream
> f++ very sweet, almost sickly, could be interchanged
> with filling of actual Hostess Twinky (tm)
> f+ sweet
> f pleasant
> (none) unremarkable
> f- slightly bitter
> f-- grapefruits taste better

Some of us like grapefruit. Try Campari and you'll get an appreciation of
bitter. Plus, eating pineapple can improve one's flavor of skin, so I can't
see why it wouldn't improve jiz.

> t - twink hawk
> t++ searches out twinkies when ever possible. Looks
> for the most hairless, blonde, tan twink.
> t+ really likes twinkies
> t would like to meet a twinkie
> (none) not a twink hawk
> t- doesn't care for twinkies
> t-- is offended by them (why are you even here?)

Change the t++ (more on this later...)

kinky and slut factor pulled directly from NBCS

> m - "the MUSCLE factor"... for those who like meat on them bones.
>
> m++ Arnold Schwartzeneger is that you?
> m+ definitely works out
> m some definition
> (none) muscle neutral

*X* and I had been discussing this (or maybe it was somebody else) but we
had concluded that muscle definition is more of a factor than muscle mass in
a twink. How about
m1 - Muscle definition
m1++ chiseled from marble
m1+ chiseled from oak
m1 chiseled from baswood (but still chiseled)
(none) neutral
m1- chiseled from marshmallow

Muscle mass is also somewhat important, tho...
m2 - Muscle mass
m2++ serious meat on that frame
m2+ more muscular than the average joe
m2 muscles are small, but there
(none) neutral
m2- there *might* be some muscle there...
m2-- wishful thinking will only get you so far

> q - "the Q factor" (defined)
> q++ more effeminate than Donna Reed, Florence
> Henderson, and RuPaul combined
> q+ swishes so much they sway
> q is a queen
> q- "straight-acting"
> q-- probably should BE straight

Minor surgery here, too...
q - How Queer? for the flaming queens out there...
q++ RuPaul should be taking notes.
q+ flaming, often sets off fire alarms
q somewhat swish
(none) blatantly subtle, a queen if you know
what to look for
q- invisible
q-- practically a deacon


> |__________________|
> Kirk Johanning |_____\ /_____| The opinions expressed
> Hewlett-Packard Company |______\ /______| above are mine and may
> Response Center - Atlanta |_______\ /_______| not reflect those of my
> k...@hpuerca.atl.hp.com |________\/________| employer or anyone else

It's a good attempt, but still needs improvement. Additions...

I'd change the T code to something like "HC" because there's another
description where T is useful.

T - Type of Twink
1 - VBall Twink - Often sun-bleached blond, usually
well defined, the VBall Twink reminds one of
Karch Kiraly or Brent Stoklos
2 - SurfTwink - again sun-bleached blond, again usually
well defined, yet the SurfTwink is a different
animal. Often sporting longer hair, and clothing
more suited to getting wet, the SurfTwink can be
a prized catch
3 - NuevoWest Twink - He looks western. But he looks
International Male western. Too colorful. Too
sharp. Not nearly weathered enough.
4 - StreetTwink - Marky Mark and the Funky Bunch don't
hold a candle to this Twink. The ultimate in urban
fashion is the characteristic here.
5 - Midwestern Twink - Suffice it to say, he looks like
the boy next door, only much, much better.
6 - GymTwink - A GymTwink can attempt any of the other
styles, but his body is what always grabs attention,
no matter how stylish he is.

I'm sure there's more, I just can't think of them, and I have to go to
anthropology.

Tear, shred, work this thing to death. I wan't to see a comprehensive twink
Code.

(Yes, #5 above shows my midwestern bias)

--
as always, I'm... Andy Trembley and...@csd4.csd.uwm.edu
S7 b g l- y(-) z n+ o+(+) x a++-- u-(++) j++ B3 t++ w- g k+ s-- r- p
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Jean-Martin Guay

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I'm shocked.........

It DOES means something!!!!!

ba bab ab aalalba b lab............
.........

.
..

and all this time I thought it was just "a bear/smurf" thing?


Jean-Martin, still a bit confused!!!

Nick Fitch

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In article <mattm-140...@mcmelmon.apple.com>, ma...@apple.com

(Matthew Melmon) wrote:
>
> *X*
> T5(2) b(++) a++! w((++!/--)v) y(+) e f t(++v) k(++) s(++/--) q((++/--)v)

Splatty, darling! You never *said* you were an assisted redhead! Oh Joy!!
To the Moon, Splatty! To the Moon!

--Nick

T1 h+l b- a(-/+) w(-/+) c(-/+v) yv e+ f? t+ k(+) s(-) q-

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Matthew Melmon

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In article <1qi2vk...@uwm.edu>, and...@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Andrew
Terrance Trembley) wrote:

> Please, we're trying to design this by committee, don't go taking over
> without asking permission. But since there are some good ideas, here's my
> comments.

Now, now. It was a good effort. And he said "Version 1.00." And
we're twinks. We are not only entitled to change our minds, such as
they are, we are obligated too. I think Kirk did an *X*cellent job.

A round of applause, please...

<snap> <snap> <snap>

Now, you bring up several *X*cellent points:

[on the 'b' characteristic]


> Again, I'd reverse the ++/-- order, and use to designate amount of
> intelligence. That or change it to an "airhead" code where ++ is more
> airheaded than --.

May as well keep the original. I realize that not all twinks are; but
twinks
should not care about the opinions of others with respect to intellect.
There are better things to do with a twink than discuss chromo-electro-
dynamics. Even with twinks who _can_.

[on the youth characteristic]


> I like the format. I'm not so sure about the 'y++' (and here's me bitching
> about good/bad implications above, but I'm just not interested in barely
> post-pubescent looking boys). And there isn't any real difference between
> 'y+' and 'y' because 3/4ths of college age students (if they're making it
> thru in 4 years) are under the legal drinking age. Perhaps:
> y++ looks like teen spirit
> y+ still gets carded most every time he buys liquor
> y looks twentysomething

I agree.

> *X* and I had been discussing this (or maybe it was somebody else) but we
> had concluded that muscle definition is more of a factor than muscle mass in
> a twink. How about
> m1 - Muscle definition
> m1++ chiseled from marble
> m1+ chiseled from oak
> m1 chiseled from baswood (but still chiseled)
> (none) neutral
> m1- chiseled from marshmallow

I agree. And I must say, VERY NICE metaphors!



> Muscle mass is also somewhat important, tho...
> m2 - Muscle mass
> m2++ serious meat on that frame
> m2+ more muscular than the average joe
> m2 muscles are small, but there
> (none) neutral
> m2- there *might* be some muscle there...
> m2-- wishful thinking will only get you so far

Good, yes.

[on the q characteristic]
> Minor surgery here, too...

Yes, very minor. I like Kirk's use of "straight-acting." It is a
blatant fixture in many twink personals.


> I'd change the T code to something like "HC" because there's another
> description where T is useful.
>
> T - Type of Twink
> 1 - VBall Twink - Often sun-bleached blond, usually
> well defined, the VBall Twink reminds one of
> Karch Kiraly or Brent Stoklos
> 2 - SurfTwink - again sun-bleached blond, again usually
> well defined, yet the SurfTwink is a different
> animal. Often sporting longer hair, and clothing
> more suited to getting wet, the SurfTwink can be
> a prized catch
> 3 - NuevoWest Twink - He looks western. But he looks
> International Male western. Too colorful. Too
> sharp. Not nearly weathered enough.
> 4 - StreetTwink - Marky Mark and the Funky Bunch don't
> hold a candle to this Twink. The ultimate in urban
> fashion is the characteristic here.
> 5 - Midwestern Twink - Suffice it to say, he looks like
> the boy next door, only much, much better.
> 6 - GymTwink - A GymTwink can attempt any of the other
> styles, but his body is what always grabs attention,
> no matter how stylish he is.

Yes, this gets back to my Twinkal Forms. But you have some
repetition, and an omission. The VBall Twink and SurfTwink are
too close to merit separate classification. I would call them
BeachTwinks. Missing is the EuroTwink - the artsy, all-in-black,
pouty twink in Armani silks. So...

1 - Beach Twink
2 - NuevoWest Twink
3 - Street Twink (Grunge Twink?)
4 - All-American Twink
5 - GymTwink
6 - EuroTwink

Further, this number may be used again for the Twink Hawk characteristic
(t) as an indication of prefered twinkal prey.

*X*
T6 hc(5(2)) b(++) a++! w(++!/-) y(+) e f t++!(1,3,6) k(++) s(++/--)
q((++/--)v)

Todd Jonker

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> > b - the brain factor
> > b++ The ultimate, brainless twink
> > b+ below average
> > (none) average mental activity; may use dictionary
> > b has brains and may use them occasionally
> > b- above average and uses his often
> > b-- genius (it's amazing but some are actually smart)

> Again, I'd reverse the ++/-- order, and use to designate amount of
> intelligence. That or change it to an "airhead" code where ++ is more
> airheaded than --.

> > a - attitude
> > a++ attitude from hell; has enough for 20
> > a+ above average
> > a has attitude and knows how to use it
> > (none) attitude at times
> > a- mostly unpretentious
> > a-- no attitude, what you see is what you get.

> I like this one. ++/-- works the way I like it to. Perhaps if we can find
> another description so we can use 'a' for airhead.

Why not switch the two: a for Airhead factor, b for Bitch factor.

.T.

T9!! hcl b-- a+/- w- y e f t+v k+ s+/-v q+/-v [v1.00]


. . . Todd V. Jonker . . . . . Carnegie Mellon University . . .
. . . tjo...@cs.cmu.edu . . . Information Technology Center . . .

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he's passing out a petition to get the name of
the species changed to hetero-sapien...
---Murphy Brown

Scott Safier

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In article <1qh4iv$e...@hpscit.sc.hp.com> k...@atl.hp.com (Kirk Johanning) writes:

> e - endowment (for the size queens amongst us)
>
> e++ 8"+
> e+ 6.5" - 8"
> e 5.5" - 6.5"
> (none) neutral
> e- do you really want to let people know?
> e-- you may not have much but you have guts

I agree with the person that posted that this does need to be
specified better than in the bear code, but I thought there was an
agreement that

e++ 9"+
e+ 8-9
e 7-8
...

Scott Safier cor...@cmu.edu
Robotics Institute, Carnegie Mellon University

member, T.S.A.K.C. S2/6 b g- l z n+ o+(+) x+(+) a-(-) u- v j+
B0/1 f+ w- g k+ s- m(+) e++

Matthew Melmon

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In article <0fnP2fG00...@andrew.cmu.edu>, Todd Jonker
<tj...@andrew.cmu.edu> wrote:

> Why not switch the two: a for Airhead factor, b for Bitch factor.

Oh, I say - well done, chap. Well done.

*X*
T6 hc(5(2)) a(++) b++! w(++!/-) y(+) e f t++!(1,3,6) k(++) s(++/--)
q((++/--)v)

Kirk Johanning

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In article <1qi2vk...@uwm.edu>, and...@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Andrew Terrance Trembley) writes:
|> From article <1qh4iv$e...@hpscit.sc.hp.com>, by k...@atl.hp.com (Kirk Johanning):
|> >
|> > This is the long awaited TwinkCode (tm) Version 1.00.
|> >
|>
|> Please, we're trying to design this by committee, don't go taking over
|> without asking permission. But since there are some good ideas, here's my
|> comments.

Well, if I had seen ANYTHING by the committee then I would have abided
by its decision, but since the collective airhead did not get its act
together in time I decided to do something about it to get the ball
rolling. Now, on to the comments:

|>
|> I like the idea of a hair-color code. It's an important twink feature.
|>
|>
|> > h - the 'hairlessness' factor (opposite of NBCS "f") refers to
|> > body hair.
|> >
|> > h++ SMOOTH body - virtually no hair
|> > h+ little hair
|> > h some hair
|> > (none) average body hair
|> > h- above average body hair
|> > h-- veritable furball (could be considered a bear)
|> >
|> > There are four more subclasses:
|> > c - refers to chest
|> > b - refers to butt
|> > l - refers to legs
|> > s - refers to shin (part of leg below the knee)
|> > They are to be used as follows:
|> > if you have a smooth chest, yet hair starting at the
|> > butt and below the code might be "hc++b-",
|> > if you have a smooth chest and butt with moderately
|> > hairy legs it might be "h++l", etc.
|>
|> I like the hairlesness code, but I'm not sure that I agree with your
|> sequence of ++ to --. While lack of hair is nice in many twinks, there are
|> exceptions. I think NCBS has it right when they use + to mean more and - to
|> mean less (and if they choose to read better or worse into that, it's their
|> fault).

I remember reading the posts regarding the H.I.M. catalog and how it
was that the models all shaved. Somehow I got the idea that this was
an important trait in twinks and as such should be properly codified.
I guess the sequence is up to interpretation and if I hear lots of
opposition then I will post it in reverse order.

|> > b - the brain factor
|> > b++ The ultimate, brainless twink
|> > b+ below average
|> > (none) average mental activity; may use dictionary
|> > b has brains and may use them occasionally
|> > b- above average and uses his often
|> > b-- genius (it's amazing but some are actually smart)
|>
|> Again, I'd reverse the ++/-- order, and use to designate amount of
|> intelligence. That or change it to an "airhead" code where ++ is more
|> airheaded than --.
|> > a - attitude
|>

|> I like this one. ++/-- works the way I like it to. Perhaps if we can find
|> another description so we can use 'a' for airhead.

As was suggested this will be changed to "bitch factor"

|>
|> > w - the WHINE factor
|>

|> Again, I like the format (and met a w++ this weekend at a SF con, who was
|> sitting in the hot tub complaining about how lonely he was).
|>
|> > c - color of crust (tan)
|>

|> like the format, again
|>
|> > y - youthful appearance
|>

|> I like the format. I'm not so sure about the 'y++' (and here's me bitching
|> about good/bad implications above, but I'm just not interested in barely
|> post-pubescent looking boys). And there isn't any real difference between
|> 'y+' and 'y' because 3/4ths of college age students (if they're making it
|> thru in 4 years) are under the legal drinking age. Perhaps:
|> y++ looks like teen spirit
|> y+ still gets carded most every time he buys liquor
|> y looks twentysomething

(none) looks thirtysomething


y- looks like somebody's dad
y-- looks like somebody's grandfather

|> > e - endowment (for the size queens amongst us)


|> > e++ 8"+
|> > e+ 6.5" - 8"
|> > e 5.5" - 6.5"
|> > (none) neutral
|> > e- do you really want to let people know?
|> > e-- you may not have much but you have guts
|>
|> Better designed than bearcode. More specific. But it means I have to get
|> out the ruler, and we have to define how we're measuring.

To be measured with the ruler/tape measure on TOP.

|> > g - gonads (balls)
|> > g++ huge and bursting with cream
|> > g+ large and cream filled
|> > g above average
|> > (none) has two
|> > g- do you really want to let people know?
|> > g-- you may not have much but you have guts
|>
|> ???? I suppose that someone might care a whole hell a lot about this, but I
|> don't really.

I was trying to keep with the twink -> Hostess Twinky theme...

|> > f - flavor of cream
|> > f++ very sweet, almost sickly, could be interchanged
|> > with filling of actual Hostess Twinky (tm)
|> > f+ sweet
|> > f pleasant
|> > (none) unremarkable
|> > f- slightly bitter
|> > f-- grapefruits taste better
|>
|> Some of us like grapefruit. Try Campari and you'll get an appreciation of
|> bitter. Plus, eating pineapple can improve one's flavor of skin, so I can't
|> see why it wouldn't improve jiz.

I don't get the pineapple = grapefruit reference. I agree that
Campari is truely bitter and that might have been a better comparison
to make. Will be updated.

|> > t - twink hawk
|> > t++ searches out twinkies when ever possible. Looks
|> > for the most hairless, blonde, tan twink.
|> > t+ really likes twinkies
|> > t would like to meet a twinkie
|> > (none) not a twink hawk
|> > t- doesn't care for twinkies
|> > t-- is offended by them (why are you even here?)
|>
|> Change the t++ (more on this later...)

To include the types of twinks hunted...I get it...I like it...

|> kinky and slut factor pulled directly from NBCS

I was running out of original ideas...

|> > m - "the MUSCLE factor"... for those who like meat on them bones.
|>

|> *X* and I had been discussing this (or maybe it was somebody else) but we
|> had concluded that muscle definition is more of a factor than muscle mass in
|> a twink. How about
|> m1 - Muscle definition
|> m1++ chiseled from marble
|> m1+ chiseled from oak
|> m1 chiseled from baswood (but still chiseled)
|> (none) neutral
|> m1- chiseled from marshmallow

m1-- chiseled from water

|> Muscle mass is also somewhat important, tho...
|> m2 - Muscle mass
|> m2++ serious meat on that frame
|> m2+ more muscular than the average joe
|> m2 muscles are small, but there
|> (none) neutral
|> m2- there *might* be some muscle there...
|> m2-- wishful thinking will only get you so far
|>

|> q - How Queer? for the flaming queens out there...
|> q++ RuPaul should be taking notes.
|> q+ flaming, often sets off fire alarms
|> q somewhat swish
|> (none) blatantly subtle, a queen if you know
|> what to look for
|> q- invisible
|> q-- practically a deacon

I like it..., well some of it, I will combine...

|> It's a good attempt, but still needs improvement. Additions...

I never said it was perfect and was actually hoping for some help...

|> I'd change the T code to something like "HC" because there's another
|> description where T is useful.
|>
|> T - Type of Twink
|> 1 - VBall Twink - Often sun-bleached blond, usually
|> well defined, the VBall Twink reminds one of
|> Karch Kiraly or Brent Stoklos
|> 2 - SurfTwink - again sun-bleached blond, again usually
|> well defined, yet the SurfTwink is a different
|> animal. Often sporting longer hair, and clothing
|> more suited to getting wet, the SurfTwink can be
|> a prized catch

1 and 2 are to be combined into BeachTwink

|> 2 - NuevoWest Twink - He looks western. But he looks


|> International Male western. Too colorful. Too
|> sharp. Not nearly weathered enough.

|> 3 - StreetTwink - Marky Mark and the Funky Bunch don't


|> hold a candle to this Twink. The ultimate in urban
|> fashion is the characteristic here.

|> 4 - Midwestern Twink - Suffice it to say, he looks like


|> the boy next door, only much, much better.

|> 5 - GymTwink - A GymTwink can attempt any of the other


|> styles, but his body is what always grabs attention,
|> no matter how stylish he is.

6 - PreppyTwink - Like GQ, just younger.
7 - AppalachianTwink - looks like younger brother
of Jethro from the _Beverly_Hillbillies_.
8 - EuroTwink - the artsy, all-in-black, pouty
twink in Armani silks.

|> Tear, shred, work this thing to death. I wan't to see a comprehensive twink
|> Code.

Working on it... Watch for posting of new and improved TC version 1.01.

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L. D. Stratton

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>In article <1qh4iv$e...@hpscit.sc.hp.com> k...@atl.hp.com (Kirk Johanning) writes:
>> e - endowment (for the size queens amongst us)
>> e++ 8"+
>> e+ 6.5" - 8"
>> e 5.5" - 6.5"
>> (none) neutral
>> e- do you really want to let people know?
>> e-- you may not have much but you have guts
>I agree with the person that posted that this does need to be
>specified better than in the bear code, but I thought there was an
>agreement that
>e++ 9"+
>e+ 8-9
>e 7-8

If memory serves me (certainly substantial doubt there), Scott's
definitions come closer to what is considered the national norms.
If we suppose that the national average is around 6.6, then the
progressive scale proposed by Scott is more in keeping. Kirk's
scale would indicate an 'e' as 'average', and at that, slightly
less than average.

I certainly wouldn't mind being known as an 'e++' but I will
settle for an e+ ranking. =)

Andrew Terrance Trembley

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Apr 16, 1993, 5:04:24 PM4/16/93
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From article <1qmb6v$d...@hpscit.sc.hp.com>, by k...@atl.hp.com (Kirk Johanning):

> |> > f - flavor of cream
> |> > f-- grapefruits taste better
> |>
> |> Some of us like grapefruit. Try Campari and you'll get an appreciation of
> |> bitter. Plus, eating pineapple can improve one's flavor of skin, so I can't
> |> see why it wouldn't improve jiz.
>
> I don't get the pineapple = grapefruit reference. I agree that
> Campari is truely bitter and that might have been a better comparison
> to make. Will be updated.

I don't think you get the point. I *like* bitter.

pinapple = grapefruit? that wasn't the point I was trying to make either.
It's a documented fact that eating pinapple will sweeten the taste of one's
skin. I was trying to make the point that this is something that can change
from day to day, depending on your diet.

> 6 - PreppyTwink - Like GQ, just younger.
> 7 - AppalachianTwink - looks like younger brother
> of Jethro from the _Beverly_Hillbillies_.
> 8 - EuroTwink - the artsy, all-in-black, pouty
> twink in Armani silks.

I was thinking about preppy twink as an option this morning.

I don't know if appalachian twink qualifies. It's awfully difficult to
achieve twinkdom when dressing like Jethro Bodine. Appalachian is
anti-fashion.

euro-twink has been added.


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Steve Hutchison

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and...@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Andrew Terrance Trembley) writes:

+From article <1qh4iv$e...@hpscit.sc.hp.com>, by k...@atl.hp.com (Kirk Johanning):
+>
+> This is the long awaited TwinkCode (tm) Version 1.00.
+>

+Please, we're trying to design this by committee, don't go taking over
+without asking permission. But since there are some good ideas, here's my
+comments.

+> Since hair color seems to be a determining factor in whether someone
+> is a twink, I will start with that. Using a capital "T" to denote
+> "Twink" I have come up with the following hair color scale:
+>
+> 9 - BLONDE (must be natural). All hair on body is blonde.
+> 8 - mostly blonde. Most of the hair on body is blonde.
+> 7 - strawberry blonde
+> 6 - bright red
+> 5 - dark red
+> 4 - auburn
+> 3 - light brown
+> 2 - brown
+> 1 - dark brown
+> 0 - black (raven)
+>
+> If hair is colored the original color should be included in
+> parentheses, such as: T8(3)

+I like the idea of a hair-color code. It's an important twink feature.

Hmmm.. What about Colors Nature Never Intended, like, mauve or magenta?

Greg Parkinson

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Apr 16, 1993, 9:15:15 AM4/16/93
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In article <CORWIN+.93...@MORPHEUS.CIMDS.RI.CMU.EDU>, cor...@CMU.EDU (Scott Safier) writes:
|> In article <1qh4iv$e...@hpscit.sc.hp.com> k...@atl.hp.com (Kirk Johanning) writes:
|>
|> > e - endowment (for the size queens amongst us)
|> >
|> > e++ 8"+
|> > e+ 6.5" - 8"
|> > e 5.5" - 6.5"
|> > (none) neutral
|> > e- do you really want to let people know?
|> > e-- you may not have much but you have guts
|>
|> I agree with the person that posted that this does need to be
|> specified better than in the bear code, but I thought there was an
|> agreement that
|>
|> e++ 9"+
|> e+ 8-9
|> e 7-8

This was my thinking too, but Kirk's scale
is more true to the realities of "average",
no?

Perhaps it should be based on displacement
volume - there are people with big fat beer
cans that are not especially long, and people
with 9" pencils. To me, there's a *big*
difference that this scale just doesn't
address.

Greg (thinking about becoming an e++.....)


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Doug Sewell

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Apr 16, 1993, 8:57:53 PM4/16/93
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Scott Safier (cor...@CMU.EDU) wrote:
: I agree with the person that posted that this does need to be

: specified better than in the bear code, but I thought there was an
: agreement that

: e++ 9"+
: e+ 8-9
: e 7-8
: ...

My experience fits this pretty well... most (probably 85-90%) of guys fall
in the supposedly-average 5-7" range, with a pretty fair spread across
that range (I'm speaking as a retired s++, so I should know...) I know I've
only encountered a very small number of fellows under 5", and almost all
of them were quite sexually proficient... much more so than the "I'm hung
so worship me" type of guys...

I'm inclined to also give a discretionary + for unusual thickness, so that
could make someone that's 'normal' an e, and can make an e++ into an e+++!
(yes, such people exist. I have mixed feelings about fooling with them).

Ultimately, though, the codes are self-assigned, so if someone wishes to
say that a solid 6" is 'e', I'm not going to argue with them...

--
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Ailsa N.T. Murphy

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Apr 17, 1993, 2:43:43 AM4/17/93
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In article <0fnP2fG00...@andrew.cmu.edu>, tj...@andrew.cmu.edu (Todd Jonker) writes:
>
> Excerpts from netnews.soc.motss: 14-Apr-93 Re: TwinkCode Version 1.00
> Andrew T. Trembley@csd4. (9017)
>
ok... could some nice kind person email me a copy? i got all thne
followups, but not the code itself.

and is there a place in the code for height? twinks should be tall...

-ailsa

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ai...@wonky.uucp ________
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And I made it a point to be the first to laugh = \ / =
You know that kind of cool is kind of cold Death \ / Life
and hollow \/
And you can write that on my epitaph. -Ferron

Michael A. Thomas

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In article <346-JN...@wonky.UUCP>, ai...@wonky.UUCP (Ailsa N.T. Murphy) writes:
> and is there a place in the code for height? twinks should be tall...

Heavens why?

Mike, who is quite happy with not so
tall folks, twinks or otherwise.

Nick Fitch

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Apr 17, 1993, 11:37:28 PM4/17/93
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In article <1993Apr17.2...@gordian.com>, mi...@gordian.com (Michael

A. Thomas) wrote:
>
> In article <346-JN...@wonky.UUCP>, ai...@wonky.UUCP (Ailsa N.T. Murphy) writes:
> > and is there a place in the code for height? twinks should be tall...
>
> Heavens why?

It's not just a height-flag we need in the Code - after all a tall blob is
not a twink. It's a general willowyness-flag; a combination of height and
slenderness and flexibility and...and...excuse me I need a lie-down....

--Nick

Graham Wilson

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In article <NFitch-17...@clinical-mac76-106.ucsd.edu> NFi...@UCSD.edu (Nick Fitch) writes:
>In article <1993Apr17.2...@gordian.com>, mi...@gordian.com (Michael
>A. Thomas) wrote:
>>
>> In article <346-JN...@wonky.UUCP>, ai...@wonky.UUCP (Ailsa N.T. Murphy) writes:
>> > and is there a place in the code for height? twinks should be tall...
>>
>> Heavens why?


** I didn't know there was a twink code. Could someone please mail it to
me. Thanks.


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Kirk Johanning

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In article <346-JN...@wonky.UUCP>, ai...@wonky.UUCP (Ailsa N.T. Murphy) writes:
|> In article <0fnP2fG00...@andrew.cmu.edu>, tj...@andrew.cmu.edu (Todd Jonker) writes:
|> >
|> > Excerpts from netnews.soc.motss: 14-Apr-93 Re: TwinkCode Version 1.00
|> > Andrew T. Trembley@csd4. (9017)
|> >
|> ok... could some nice kind person email me a copy? i got all thne
|> followups, but not the code itself.

I would have simply loved to have e-mailed you a copy, but everytime I
try I get the following:

----- Transcript of session follows -----
wonky.uucp... unable to route to UUCP host name wonky

At the end you will find a copy of The TwinkCode Version 1.11.

|> and is there a place in the code for height? twinks should be tall...

I do not think that height is a prerequisite for being a twink, but I
am sure that the TwinkCabal can put this to a vote...

|> -ailsa
|>
|> =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
|> ai...@wonky.uucp ________
|> You know I was always the last to follow Silence \ / Action
|> And I made it a point to be the first to laugh = \ / =
|> You know that kind of cool is kind of cold Death \ / Life
|> and hollow \/
|> And you can write that on my epitaph. -Ferron

**************************************
TwinkCode v1.11

This should be the new, improved and approved twink code.
It applies some minor changes to v1.10alpha and reconciles
difference between v1.10alpha and v1.01.
As before any new material will be marked as:
____
\\// New material (v1.11)
\/

<<<new material here>>>

/\
//\\ end new material


and changed material will also be marked, with smaller triangles
__
\/ changed (v1.11)

I hope this makes review and comment easier.

TwinkCode v1.11

Some people out here aren't satisfied with BearCode or SmurfCode. It
doesn't speak to us. We're twinks, and damn proud of it. While bears live
for hair and smurfs for humor, a twink lives for style. As such, style
factors are the major way of recognizing a twink. Unlike bears and smurfs,
a twink's style can't be rated by degree--to be a twink, one must have a
good sense of style. The ideal twink knows what he can't wear, and how to
wear what he can. The clothes make the twink.

Clothing is not exclusively the determining factor in a twink, though. The
twink's crowning glory is his hair. Long or short, straight or wavy, it
must be perfect. Hell is a lifetime of bad hair.

The main Twink identifier is a 4 part code comprised of:
T - Type of twink
C - Color of Hair
L - Length of Hair
and whether it's (s)traight, (w)avy, or (c)urly

T - Type of twink
1 - BeachTwink: The beach twink is often a sun-
bleached blonde, well tanned, and well defined.
Sub-genres of beach twink are the VBall Twink and
SurferTwink.
2 - NuevoWest Twink: The old west was never quite
like this. Colorful, sharp, and not nearly
weathered enough, if cowboys were fashion slaves,
they'd look like this.
3 - Street Twink: Marky Mark and the Funky Bunch have
nothing on this twink. Urban fashion, be it rap
or grunge, is raised to an art form by this
delicious one.
4 - The All-American Twink: Remember that quarterback
you could never have in high school? This *is*
him. Athletic, active, it's amazing how his hair
stays in place.
5 - EuroTwink: Think of Armani suits. Think of
Italian convertibles. The finest European
designers would love to have him on the runway.
6 - The Twink Next Door: The boy next door never
looked this good (well, mine never did). A
suburban sensibility becomes a showcase for a
gorgeous young guy.
7 - RadicalTwink: This twink marches to the beat of a
different drummer. Possessing a style, while not
necessarily unique, but definitely uncommon, this
twink will go out on a limb to grab your
attention.
8 - GymTwink: The GymTwink may attempt any of the
above styles (and pull them off successfully) but
it's always that drop-dead-gorgeous bod that's
overshadowing everything else. Even in sack cloth
(we're talking *really* radical 7 here) he'd look
incredible. GymTwinks should include what style
they're attempting in their code (i.e. T8(5))
____
\\// New material (v1.11)
\/
9 - AppalachianTwink: This twink is often
mistaken for the younger brother of Jthro
Clampett (_The_Beverly_Hillbillies_). Usually
dressed in overalls and sometimes the above
mentioned sack cloth. Shoes are optional, and
so is the shirt.
/\
//\\ end new material

<<<comments: Perhaps 3 should be broken into grunge and rap
<<<styles. They are entirely different looks, after all
<<<end comments
>>>comment: I think we should but was unable to come up with
>>>appropriate verbage.

Twinks come in all hair colors, natural and unnatural.
C - Color of Hair
0 - black (raven)
1 - dark brown
2 - brown
3 - light brown
4 - auburn
5 - dark red
6 - bright red
7 - strawberry blonde
8 - Blonde. Most of the hair on his body is blonde.
9 - Totally Blonde. Every strand of hair on his body
(by definition must be natural).
X - Other (purple, blue, etc...)
If hair color is assisted, it should list the original color in parentheses
(i.e. CX(7)).


Hair length is important too. Some of us like long hair, some of us like
short hair, some of us like any hair at all as long as it looks good.
L - Length of Hair
0 - Shaved/bald
1 - verrrrry short, buzzed
2 - short enough for a banker, suitable for business
3 - medium length, barely over collar
4 - shoulder length
5 - part-way down the back
6 - *really* long, like down to his butt

The last modifier is waviness of hair, and is designated by letter.
(s)traight
(w)avy
(c)urly

____
\\// New material (v1.11)
\/
If waviness is assisted, it should list the original waviness in parentheses
Such that permed hair might be: c(s)
/\
//\\ end new material

Therefore, I am (using this code system) a:
T7C2L2s

<<<comment: I don't think this is too complicated for twinks.
<<<If there's anything a twink can concentrate on, it's style.
<<<end comments
>>>comment: The last part is done for consistency's sake.

Having covered the major points of description, it's time to get down to the
sordid details. How sordid? You be the judge

h - the 'hairlessness' factor (opposite of NBCS "f") refers
to body hair.
h++ SMOOTH body - virtually no hair
h+ little hair
h some hair
(none) average body hair
h- above average body hair

h-- veritable furball (almost a bear)
(h) can be further refined to cover specific body areas:
hc - chest
hb - butt
hl - legs
hs - shins (part of leg below knee)
__
\/ changed (v1.10a)
These can be used specifically, or to identify an area which
differs from the rest of the body. Therefore, if you're
smooth, except for your legs, you could list h++(hl-). If
your hairlesness is a result of shaving or depilatories, you
should list the original state in parentheses, i.e. h(--)++.

<<<comments: only minor changes here
<<<end comments
>>>comment: approved. retained in (v1.11)

____
\\// New material (v1.10a)
\/
d - Dizzy factor. How much of an airhead is he?
d++ Head in the clouds (or at least somebody's shorts)
d+ present mentally only on special occasions
d not totally dizzy, but noticeably so
(none) sometimes dizzy, about average
d- rarely dizzy
d-- never dizzy, even shows common sense sometimes

/\
//\\ end new material (v1.10a)
<<<comments: this replaces the 'b' code in 1.00. After all, a
<<<twink can (and usually does) have a brain. The important
<<<thing is ignoring its presence. I saw the comment about
<<<switching the 'a' and 'b' codes to 'airhead' and 'bitch'. It
<<<sounds good, but they aren't quite interchangeable. After all,
<<<attitude is more than just bitchiness. It's also self-
<<<importance and pretentiousness. And, amazing as it may seem,
<<<one can be pretentious without being bitchy.
<<<end comments

>>>comment: approved. retained in (v1.11)


a - attitude
a++ attitude from hell; has enough for 20
a+ above average
a has attitude and knows how to use it
(none) attitude at times
a- mostly unpretentious
a-- no attitude, what you see is what you get.

w - the WHINE factor


w++ Will scream "I'm BOOOORRRRRRED" while you're
still home and just getting dressed
w+ Will state "I'm boooorrrrrred" immediately upon
arrival at destination
w Will whine, even when not needed
(none) Lets his displeasure be known when appropriate
w- Usually silent, but a peep may be heard every
now and then
w-- Strong, silent type

c - color of crust (tan)

c++ dark brown
c+ a nice golden brown
c the twink has a tan
(none) doesn't get out much
c- fair skin
c-- looks like a ghost

<<<comments: a, w, and c all taken as read
<<<end comments

y - youthful appearance
y++ looks like teen spirit


y+ still gets carded most every time he buys liquor

y twentysomething


(none) looks like he has been out of college for a while
y- looks like somebody's dad
y-- looks like somebody's grandfather

e - endowment (for the size queens amongst us)


e++ 8"+
e+ 6.5" - 8"
e 5.5" - 6.5"
(none) neutral
e- do you really want to let people know?
e-- you may not have much but you have guts

g - gonads (balls)


g++ huge and bursting with cream
g+ large and cream filled
g above average

(none) average amount of cream
g- a little bit might just go a long way


g-- you may not have much but you have guts

__
\/ minor change in wording (v1.11)
<<<comments: I don't see the point of g, and recommend it's
<<<removal. If you care one way or another, post your comments
<<<*and*why* to the net for discussion
<<<end comments
>>>comment: This is an important trait as a twink is supposed to be
>>> "cream filled" and this measures the amount of filling
>>> you might expect to encounter.

f - flavor of cream
f++ very sweet, almost sickly, could be interchanged

with filling of actual Hostess Twinkie (tm)


f+ sweet
f pleasant
(none) unremarkable
f- slightly bitter

f-- Campari taste better
__
\/ minor change in wording (v1.11)
<<<end comments.

__
\/ changed (v1.10a)
t - twink hawk
t++ searches out twinks when ever possible.


t+ really likes twinkies
t would like to meet a twinkie
(none) not a twink hawk
t- doesn't care for twinkies
t-- is offended by them (why are you even here?)

t++, t+, and t people should list the style types they're
attracted to, i.e. t++(4,5,6,7)

<<<comments: minor addition per discussion with Matt
<<<end comments
>>>comment: approved. retained in (v1.11)

k - "the KINKY factor"... for those who dare.

k++ Will try anything once, usually twice...
k+ pretty adventurous, but moderated
k will consider trying new things


(none) kinky neutral
k- has definite ABSOLUTE dislikes
k-- totally vanilla

s - "SEX (ok, SLUT) factor


s++ strictly polygamous, prefers very open
relationships ONLY.
s+ will form relationships which are generally
open-ended
s neutral wrt to relationships/monogamy.
(none) relationship neutral
s- relationship oriented. Prefers a formal sort of
relationship over playing around, however the
scope of the word relationship is not defined
here.

s-- strictly monogamous/relationship oriented. No


outside affairs, or in some cases, sex ONLY in
relationships

<<<comments: k and s taken directly from NBCS, minor wording
<<<changes
<<<end comments

____
\\// New material (v1.10a)
\/
m - the Muscle factor, divided into definition and mass
m1 - muscle definition.


m1++ chiseled from marble
m1+ chiseled from oak

m1 chiseled from basswood (but still chiseled)


(none) neutral
m1- chiseled from marshmallow

____
\\// New material (v1.11)
\/
m1-- chiseled from water
/\
//\\ end new material (v1.11)

m2 - muscle mass
m2++ serious meat on them bones


m2+ more muscular than the average joe

m2 small muscles, but they're definitely there
(none) neutral
m2- well, if you *really* look hard...


m2-- wishful thinking will only get you so far

/\
//\\ end new material (v1.10a)

>>>comment: approved. retained in (v1.11)

__
\/ changed (v1.10a)


q - "the Q factor" (defined)
q++ more effeminate than Donna Reed, Florence
Henderson, and RuPaul combined
q+ swishes so much they sway
q is a queen

(none) invisible


q- "straight-acting"
q-- probably should BE straight

<<<comments: mostly taken as read, added the none
<<<end comments
>>>comment: approved. retained in (v1.11)

ADDITIONAL PUNCTUATION
The following aren't graded, they are just flags attached to
the overall classification:
v for variable, said trait is not very rigid, may
change with time or with individual interaction
? for traits where there is no HARD information
available and the value is completely guessed
: for traits which are observed but uncertain,

e.g. a twink who is wearing a lot of clothes, so


you can't be SURE he's an h+, but his forearms
REALLY suggest that he is, hence h+
! for cases where the trait is as close to a
prototype as possible, or an exemplary case of

a specific trait... e.g. the ultimate h++!


() for indicating "cross-overs" or ranges. A twink
who goes from k to k++ depending on the situation

(i.e. mostly "k") could use k(++)


You can make the punctuation as detailed as desired,
although the best ones to read are the ones which are the
most clear and simple to understand.

v1.00 draft by...
Kirk Johanning k...@hpuerca.atl.hp.com
v1.01 updated (premature) draft by...
Kirk Johanning k...@hpuerca.atl.hp.com
v1.10 updated by...
Andy Trembley and...@csd4.csd.uwm.edu
v1.11 reconciled version of v1.00, v1.01, and v1.10
Kirk Johanning k...@hpuerca.atl.hp.com


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TC(v1.11): T6(7v)C2L2c(s) h++(hs) d- a- y(+) e+ g+ f+ t++(1-9) k s- m2 q-

Matthew Melmon

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Apr 19, 1993, 3:57:16 PM4/19/93
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In article <1qus4g$l...@hpscit.sc.hp.com>, k...@atl.hp.com (Kirk Johanning)
wrote:

> I do not think that height is a prerequisite for being a twink, but I


> am sure that the TwinkCabal can put this to a vote...

No. No, no, no, no, NOOOOOO! (see a++!). Let us give incarnation
1.11 ONE MONTH to exist, and then we can add a height code. Height
is not a requirement to twinkdom, but it could be considered a
characteristic, like hair color and length.

*X*
T7(5)C5(2)L3s
hl d(++) a++! w(++!/-) y(+) e f t++!(*) k(++) s(++/--) q((++/--)v)

JBF...@psuvm.psu.edu

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>>>I didn't realize there was a twink code.

I didn't realize there was a smurf code. Please email that to me.


Doug Hayes
Dept of French
PSU

Ailsa N.T. Murphy

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Apr 20, 1993, 2:16:16 AM4/20/93
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better proportions. tall people look slimmer generally, and even with a
lot of muscles tend to look lean rather than broad. (my only claim to
bisexuality is as a twinkie hawk *grin*)
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Matthew Melmon

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Apr 20, 1993, 1:45:07 PM4/20/93
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In article <353-JN...@wonky.UUCP>, ai...@wonky.UUCP (Ailsa N.T. Murphy)
wrote:

> better proportions. tall people look slimmer generally, and even with a
> lot of muscles tend to look lean rather than broad. (my only claim to
> bisexuality is as a twinkie hawk *grin*)

AAAAIAIIIIIIIIIIEEEEEE!!!! A lesbian twinkie-hawk! CIRCLE THE WAGONS,
BOYS! Ohhh, this is bad. Really bad! She'll awaken their natural
heterosexual urges, she will. They'll remember what God intended them
to do, they will. We'll loose them forever, we will. THEY'L TURN
STRAIGHT!

AAAAAAAAAAIIIIIIIIIIIIEEEEEEEEEE!!! It's even worse than having
them turn into bears!

Rodent! Talk to her. I'm feeling phleklempt...

peter

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Apr 20, 1993, 6:22:46 PM4/20/93
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In article 090314...@psuvm.psu.edu, <JBF...@psuvm.psu.edu> () writes:
>>>>I didn't realize there was a twink code.
>
>I didn't realize there was a smurf code. Please email that to me.
>
>
>Doug Hayes

i havn't seen the smurfcode either, could someone (Paul?) please post it to me, or perhaps post it to the group for everyone?
luv

---
"the force that through the green
fuse drives the flower" peter
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~

chlo...@ohstpy.mps.ohio-state.edu

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Apr 21, 1993, 10:21:23 AM4/21/93
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In article <mattm-200...@mcmelmon.apple.com>, ma...@apple.com (Matthew Melmon) writes:
>
> AAAAIAIIIIIIIIIIEEEEEE!!!! A lesbian twinkie-hawk! CIRCLE THE WAGONS,
> BOYS! Ohhh, this is bad. Really bad! She'll awaken their natural
> heterosexual urges, she will. They'll remember what God intended them
> to do, they will. We'll loose them forever, we will. THEY'L TURN
> STRAIGHT!
>
> AAAAAAAAAAIIIIIIIIIIIIEEEEEEEEEE!!! It's even worse than having
> them turn into bears!
>
*Natural* *heterosexual* *urges*, *X* has been replaced by Pat Buchanan.

Gay twinks should *always* be able to be turned back to there natural gay
urges. Now they were turned into bears, that could be a travesty. Just
getting the attitude back alone could take longer than the lifetime of the
universe.

Frank

--------------------------------------------------------------------------

Frank R. Chloupek
CHLO...@ohstpy.mps.ohio-state.edu
Department of Physics -- *The* Ohio State University
(Not just any Ohio State University)

"Do not refuse wine. It is an odd but universally held opinion that anyone
who doesn't drink must be an alcoholic."
--P.J. O'Rourke


TC(v1.11) T6C3L2w (h++(hb-) a+v w+ y e+ f? t+(1-9) k s-- q-)

Ailsa N.T. Murphy

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Apr 22, 1993, 2:12:12 AM4/22/93
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In article <mattm-200...@mcmelmon.apple.com>, ma...@apple.com (Matthew Melmon) writes:
> In article <353-JN...@wonky.UUCP>, ai...@wonky.UUCP (Ailsa N.T. Murphy)
> wrote:
>
>> better proportions. tall people look slimmer generally, and even with a
>> lot of muscles tend to look lean rather than broad. (my only claim to
>> bisexuality is as a twinkie hawk *grin*)
>
> AAAAIAIIIIIIIIIIEEEEEE!!!! A lesbian twinkie-hawk! CIRCLE THE WAGONS,
> BOYS! Ohhh, this is bad. Really bad! She'll awaken their natural
> heterosexual urges, she will. They'll remember what God intended them
> to do, they will. We'll loose them forever, we will. THEY'L TURN
> STRAIGHT!
>
don't worry, i got my own personal twink at hoem already (damn, i'd
gotten his code worked out, but i forgot it... *sigh* tall, long brown
hair citytwink q-- e++ a+ ditz--/++). of course, we ARE nonmonogamous
*evil grin*

> AAAAAAAAAAIIIIIIIIIIIIEEEEEEEEEE!!! It's even worse than having
> them turn into bears!
>

no fair making me laugh uproariously so late at night... i'll wake the
neighbors...

> Rodent! Talk to her. I'm feeling phleklempt...
>

*chuckle*

Matthew Melmon

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Apr 22, 1993, 1:41:42 PM4/22/93
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In article <370-JN...@wonky.UUCP>, ai...@wonky.UUCP (Ailsa N.T. Murphy)
wrote:

> don't worry, i got my own personal twink at hoem already (damn, i'd


> gotten his code worked out, but i forgot it... *sigh* tall, long brown
> hair citytwink q-- e++ a+ ditz--/++). of course, we ARE nonmonogamous
> *evil grin*

THIS SETTLES IT! BOP! Get her an invitiation RIGHT NOW!

Ailsa N.T. Murphy

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Apr 23, 1993, 2:32:32 AM4/23/93
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In article <mattm-220...@mcmelmon.apple.com>, ma...@apple.com (Matthew Melmon) writes:
> In article <370-JN...@wonky.UUCP>, ai...@wonky.UUCP (Ailsa N.T. Murphy)
> wrote:
>
>> don't worry, i got my own personal twink at hoem already (damn, i'd
>> gotten his code worked out, but i forgot it... *sigh* tall, long brown
>> hair citytwink q-- e++ a+ ditz--/++). of course, we ARE nonmonogamous
>> *evil grin*
>
> THIS SETTLES IT! BOP! Get her an invitiation RIGHT NOW!
>
hmm... but is it MY company he's interested in, i wonder... *grin*

-ailsa

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