Re: You Want to Understand Anti-Semitism?
Patrick Keenan
"Buck Turgidson" <turg...@adl.org> wrote in message
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> Just Look In The Mirror
> Gilad Atzmon
>
> . .. Holocaust denial laws in Germany and anywhere else must be
> abolished immediately.
So move there, become a citizen, and disclose to the current citizens that
their first-hand experiences were delusions.
last_per...@yahoo.com
> "Buck Turgidson" <turgid...@adl.org> wrote in message
Are you really a shanty Irish dumbass bootlicker or just pretending to
be one?
The point, dingleberry, is that there should not be laws punishing
people
for their opinions/beliefs.
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>
> Are you really a shanty Irish dumbass
> bootlicker or just pretending to be one?
> The point, dingleberry, is that there
> should not be laws punishing people
> for their opinions/beliefs.
The right to a free speech is impossible to abolish,
because this is the sacred and inalienable Human
Rights that is indivisible with existence of a person.
Moreover, if it weren't for the semitists, there would
not have been any opposing views of antisemitism....
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Patrick Keenan
<last_per...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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You're in luck, then. Generally, societies do *not* punish people for
*holding* beliefs or opinions.
But most societies *do* punish people for *expressing or acting on* certain
beliefs, and it's the expression or action that is the problem. It's hard
to prosecute for unexpressed thoughts; after all, you can't really produce
proof of any sort of mental activity unless and until it is expressed in
some way.
For example, in some countries, people who hold the opinion or belief that
Mohammed (pbuh) did not actually fly on a winged donkey-type creature (the
Buraq), or that the Prophet's parents weren't technically Muslims as they'd
died before the Revelations, or that one should not follow political or
religious leaders "like monkeys", or that it might be a worthwhile idea to
change your religious affiliation away from the State-sanctioned one, face
very significant legal problems - but only if they express or act on these
opinions or beliefs. If they do, their problems start with persecution,
pass through prison terms, and extend to execution.
As another example, in some countries, expressing in public the opinion or
belief that Chrisitianity is a good idea and that others should convert to
it is exceedingly dangerous for those doing the expressing and can be lethal
for anyone who is convinced by them.
Look it up.
Interestingly, the countries with those particular laws against expression
of opinions or beliefs tend to be the greatest consumers and promoters of
Holocaust denial and "revisionist" materials. And perhaps that's why we
don't hear you or any other Holocaust denier or "revisionist" ever
complaining about or even mentioning the strictly enforced laws against
expression in those countries; which side the bread is buttered on, and all
that.
It's generally not illegal to hold the opinion or belief that certain people
deserve violence or death simply because they belong to a certain group.
But in some countries, it *is* illegal to express or act on those opinions
or beliefs. This is because we know from experience that these expressions
can lead to socially unacceptable actions.
For a case in point, look at the effects of expression of such opinions and
beliefs in Rwanda, where it led to acts of mass murder - over eight hundred
thousand murdered in under ninety days.
In many countries, people who hold the opinion or belief that children are
sexual objects face sanctions - but only if they express or act on those
opinions or beliefs. If they never express or act on these opinions or
beliefs, they are never sanctioned or punished.
And of course, libel and slander laws are all about the expression of
opinion or belief. There can be no legal action taken for libel or slander
without expression.
These are just a few examples of the reality that prettty much every country
finds good reasons to impose sanctions on expression. There are of
course more, but you apparently need to spend some time learning things for
yourself.
So, if you can identifty any law anywhere that punishes opinions or beliefs,
where the punishment doesn't rely on expression or acting on the opinion or
belief so that the holder can be identified, now would be the time for you
to do so.
And as to countries that have laws against the denial of genocide or crimes
against humanity, if you have a problem with such laws, move there, become a
citizen, and convince the population that what they experienced - the
experiences that led them to enact these laws in the first place - didn't
actually happen.
I expect you to reply with more empty, uninformed and ill-considered
rhetoric. I don't expect you'll let me down.
-pk