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a322x1n

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Aug 14, 2021, 4:56:27 AM8/14/21
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<https://tinyurl.com/853ca2cb>

Refuse to get a vaccine? You might be hit with expensive medical bills,
employer mandates, Ken Alltucker.

People who choose not to get vaccinated against the coronavirus face
greater odds of getting seriously ill and hospitalized – a decision that
could risk not just their health, but their finances as employers
mandate vaccination and insurance companies look at ways to pass on the
costs of treatment.

More than 90% of patients hospitalized with COVID-19 are unvaccinated.
And because 41% of eligible Americans have not yet been fully immunized
against the virus, some are pushing a new tactic – making the
unvaccinated pay a larger share of their medical bills.

Advocates of the pocketbook approach say tens of millions of Americans
who refuse vaccination make it riskier for everyone else, including kids
who are not old enough to get vaccinated and have filled hospitals in
some states. Taxpayers are on the hook for $178 billion in federal funds
allocated to hospitals and health-care providers. Insurance premiums
could rise across the board.

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"There's a very clear line we can draw between (refusing) vaccination
and getting COVID severe enough to put you in the hospital," said
Jonathan Meer, an economics professor at Texas A&M University.

"The unvaccinated are essentially asking for a handout, a subsidy for
their stance, and that’s cheap talk. Standing up for your beliefs means
being willing to take the consequences of them," he said.

Some health insurers already are sharing the financial pain with those
sick enough to be hospitalized.

A Kaiser Family Foundation survey last November found that 88% of people
had health insurance plans that shielded COVID-19 patients from
copayments, coinsurance or annual deductibles that might require
families to spend $2,800 or more before coverage kicks in.

Now that vaccines are free and available to all Americans 12 and older,
insurers have scaled back those waivers.

Insurers eliminated pandemic perk

Major insurers such as Aetna, Anthem Blue Cross and UnitedHealth Group
discontinued fee waivers as vaccines became widely available, as first
reported by Kaiser Health News. Humana still covers out-of-pocket costs
for older adults on its Medicare plan, but the insurer does not shield
out-of-pocket costs for those covered by employer-sponsored plans.

Experts say patients hospitalized with COVID-19 could face significant
bills as a result –and those patients are mainly the unvaccinated.
Immunized people rarely are hospitalized with breakthrough infections,
according to a Kaiser Family Foundation analysis of state and federal
data.

"Now you probably will have to pay a lot of money if you get
hospitalized," said Cynthia Cox, a vice president and director for the
Kaiser Family Foundation's program on the Affordable Care Act. "That’s a
very direct cost to people because of their lack of vaccination."

Still, some doubt the prospect of high medical bills will persuade many
vaccine resisters to get immunized.

"The person who is holding out against the vaccine doesn’t have the same
risk-benefit calculation as someone who gets the vaccine," said Erin
Fuse Brown, director of the Center for Law, Health & Society at Georgia
State College of Law. "They think the chances they are seriously going
to be affected by COVID are pretty small to begin with."


Yes! Those who won't vaccinate should be screwed in every way possible.
It's the American way.

AlleyCat

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Aug 14, 2021, 9:40:52 AM8/14/21
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a322x1n wrote

> <https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/refuse-to-get-a-vaccine-you-might-be-h
> it-with-expensive-medical-bills-employer-mandates/ar-AANjhzM?ocid=msedgnt
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> <https://tinyurl.com/853ca2cb>
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> Refuse to get a vaccine? You might be hit with expensive medical bills,
> employer mandates, Ken Alltucker.

I say we make them pay an extra 20 cents a gallon at the pump and then make
them pump their own gas!


Sickly stupid Lepers like them belong in their own colony anyway.

a322x1n

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Aug 14, 2021, 10:27:53 AM8/14/21
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Lamey <lame...@invalid.invalid> wrote in
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> On Sat, 14 Aug 2021 08:56:24 GMT, a322x1n <vo...@void.void> wrote:
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>> Yes! Those who won't vaccinate should be screwed in every way
>> possible. It's the liberal way.

So, what's the problem?

> FIFY
>

Ted

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Aug 14, 2021, 3:15:18 PM8/14/21
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On Sat, 14 Aug 2021 08:56:24 GMT, a322x1n <vo...@void.void> wrote:
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> <https://tinyurl.com/853ca2cb>


> Refuse to get a vaccine? You might be


We're using a mix of prayer and Clorox,
proven to be much more effective than your
insidious vaccine. But go ahead and get
yourself vaccinated. Soon, you losers will be
dropping off like flies.

AlleyCat

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Aug 14, 2021, 4:08:49 PM8/14/21
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a322x1n wrote

> <https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/refuse-to-get-a-vaccine-you-might-be-h
> it-with-expensive-medical-bills-employer-mandates/ar-AANjhzM?ocid=msedgnt
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> <https://tinyurl.com/853ca2cb>
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> Refuse to get a vaccine? You might be hit with expensive medical bills,
> employer mandates, Ken Alltucker.

AlleyCat

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Aug 15, 2021, 1:41:22 PM8/15/21
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a322x1n wrote

> <https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/refuse-to-get-a-vaccine-you-might-be-h
> it-with-expensive-medical-bills-employer-mandates/ar-AANjhzM?ocid=msedgnt
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> <https://tinyurl.com/853ca2cb>
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> Refuse to get a vaccine? You might be hit with expensive medical bills,
> employer mandates, Ken Alltucker.

AlleyCat

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Aug 16, 2021, 11:28:51 AM8/16/21
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> <https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/refuse-to-get-a-vaccine-you-might-be-h
> it-with-expensive-medical-bills-employer-mandates/ar-AANjhzM?ocid=msedgnt
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> <https://tinyurl.com/853ca2cb>
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> Refuse to get a vaccine? You might be hit with expensive medical bills,
> employer mandates, Ken Alltucker.

Ted

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Aug 20, 2021, 4:33:14 PM8/20/21
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On Sat, 14 Aug 2021 13:30:14 -0600, Lamey <lame...@invalid.invalid>
wrote:
> On Sat, 14 Aug 2021 15:15:04 -0400, Ted <tedsm...@gmail.com>
wrote:
> A shot of Lysol and a doobie.


Indeed, that's every bit as effective.

GLOBUS

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Aug 20, 2021, 9:37:05 PM8/20/21
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a322x1n wrote:
> <https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/refuse-to-get-a-vaccine-you-might-be-h
> it-with-expensive-medical-bills-employer-mandates/ar-AANjhzM?ocid=msedgnt
> p>
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> <https://tinyurl.com/853ca2cb>
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> Refuse to get a vaccine? You might be hit with expensive medical bills,
> employer mandates, Ken Alltucker.

All FELONY level illegal under Niggercare.

a322x1n

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Aug 20, 2021, 11:29:15 PM8/20/21
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GLOBUS <odilo.g...@schutzstaffel.de> wrote in
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> a322x1n wrote:
>> <https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/refuse-to-get-a-vaccine-you-might-b
>> e-h
>> it-with-expensive-medical-bills-employer-mandates/ar-AANjhzM?ocid=msed
>> gnt p>
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>> <https://tinyurl.com/853ca2cb>
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>> Refuse to get a vaccine? You might be hit with expensive medical
>> bills, employer mandates, Ken Alltucker.
>
> All FELONY level illegal under Niggercare.

No, they're just returning to pre-pandemic standards and taking
away the extra breaks they gave when the pandemic started.

They're not doing anything that the unvaccinated don't fully
deserve.

No one should keep a job if he or she is unvaccinated. Why should
the other workers and the public be endangered just because some
kook has doubts about about the vaccine. The vaccine is safe and
effective. Those who don't vaccinate need a good screwing, in the
negative sense!

GLOBUS

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Aug 21, 2021, 10:47:11 PM8/21/21
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a322x1n wrote:
> GLOBUS <odilo.g...@schutzstaffel.de> wrote in
> news:sfplbu$4rk$2...@news.mixmin.net:
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>> a322x1n wrote:
>>> <https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/refuse-to-get-a-vaccine-you-might-b
>>> e-h
>>> it-with-expensive-medical-bills-employer-mandates/ar-AANjhzM?ocid=msed
>>> gnt p>
>>>
>>> <https://tinyurl.com/853ca2cb>
>>>
>>> Refuse to get a vaccine? You might be hit with expensive medical
>>> bills, employer mandates, Ken Alltucker.
>>
>> All FELONY level illegal under Niggercare.
>
> No,

Straight from your article:

"Under the Affordable Care Act, health insurers that pay
the bulk of hospital bills are not allowed to charge higher
premiums for people who are sick or have a chronic health
condition."

"But insurers are allowed to charge more for smokers and
tobacco users. Employers routinely offer premium discounts
or incentives for nonsmokers or for those who meet wellness
goals such as having a physical exam."

Last I checked, ONLY tobacco users can face different premiums,
contributions, deductibles, copayments or other cost sharing
requirements. Such discrimination against those who refuse your
fake "vaccine" is FELONY level illegal.

> they're just returning to pre-pandemic standards and taking
> away the extra breaks they gave when the pandemic started.
>
> They're not doing anything that the unvaccinated don't fully
> deserve.
>
> No one should keep a job if he or she is unvaccinated. Why should
> the other workers and the public be endangered just because some
> kook has doubts about about the vaccine. The vaccine is safe and
> effective. Those who don't vaccinate need a good screwing, in the
> negative sense!
>

I hope the Clot Shot kills you.

a322x1n

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Aug 21, 2021, 11:14:07 PM8/21/21
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GLOBUS <odilo.g...@schutzstaffel.de> wrote in
news:sfsdrb$1sl$1...@news.mixmin.net:
>> They're just returning to pre-pandemic standards and taking
>> away the extra breaks they gave when the pandemic started.
>>
>> They're not doing anything that the unvaccinated don't fully
>> deserve.
>>
>> No one should keep a job if he or she is unvaccinated. Why should
>> the other workers and the public be endangered just because some
>> kook has doubts about about the vaccine. The vaccine is safe and
>> effective. Those who don't vaccinate need a good screwing, in the
>> negative sense!
>>
> I hope the Clot Shot kills you.

It won't, and it didn't

AlleyCat

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Aug 27, 2021, 5:30:11 PM8/27/21
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> <https://tinyurl.com/853ca2cb>
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> Refuse to get a vaccine? You might be hit with expensive medical bills,
> employer mandates, Ken Alltucker.

AlleyCat

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Aug 31, 2021, 6:16:05 PM8/31/21
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> it-with-expensive-medical-bills-employer-mandates/ar-AANjhzM?ocid=msedgnt
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> <https://tinyurl.com/853ca2cb>
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> Refuse to get a vaccine? You might be hit with expensive medical bills,
> employer mandates, Ken Alltucker.

AlleyCat

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Sep 13, 2021, 7:50:40 PM9/13/21
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> <https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/refuse-to-get-a-vaccine-you-might-be-h
> it-with-expensive-medical-bills-employer-mandates/ar-AANjhzM?ocid=msedgnt
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> <https://tinyurl.com/853ca2cb>
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> Refuse to get a vaccine? You might be hit with expensive medical bills,
> employer mandates, Ken Alltucker.

AlleyCat

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Sep 13, 2021, 10:03:00 PM9/13/21
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> it-with-expensive-medical-bills-employer-mandates/ar-AANjhzM?ocid=msedgnt
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> <https://tinyurl.com/853ca2cb>
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> Refuse to get a vaccine? You might be hit with expensive medical bills,
> employer mandates, Ken Alltucker.

AlleyCat

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Sep 19, 2021, 11:50:22 AM9/19/21
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> it-with-expensive-medical-bills-employer-mandates/ar-AANjhzM?ocid=msedgnt
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> <https://tinyurl.com/853ca2cb>
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> Refuse to get a vaccine? You might be hit with expensive medical bills,
> employer mandates, Ken Alltucker.

AlleyCat

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> it-with-expensive-medical-bills-employer-mandates/ar-AANjhzM?ocid=msedgnt
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> <https://tinyurl.com/853ca2cb>
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> Refuse to get a vaccine? You might be hit with expensive medical bills,
> employer mandates, Ken Alltucker.

AlleyCat

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> it-with-expensive-medical-bills-employer-mandates/ar-AANjhzM?ocid=msedgnt
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> <https://tinyurl.com/853ca2cb>
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> Refuse to get a vaccine? You might be hit with expensive medical bills,
> employer mandates, Ken Alltucker.

AlleyCat

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> it-with-expensive-medical-bills-employer-mandates/ar-AANjhzM?ocid=msedgnt
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> <https://tinyurl.com/853ca2cb>
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> Refuse to get a vaccine? You might be hit with expensive medical bills,
> employer mandates, Ken Alltucker.

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> it-with-expensive-medical-bills-employer-mandates/ar-AANjhzM?ocid=msedgnt
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> <https://tinyurl.com/853ca2cb>
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> Refuse to get a vaccine? You might be hit with expensive medical bills,
> employer mandates, Ken Alltucker.

AlleyCat

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> <https://tinyurl.com/853ca2cb>
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> Refuse to get a vaccine? You might be hit with expensive medical bills,
> employer mandates, Ken Alltucker.

AlleyCat

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> <https://tinyurl.com/853ca2cb>
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> Refuse to get a vaccine? You might be hit with expensive medical bills,
> employer mandates, Ken Alltucker.

AlleyCat

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> <https://tinyurl.com/853ca2cb>
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> Refuse to get a vaccine? You might be hit with expensive medical bills,
> employer mandates, Ken Alltucker.

AlleyCat

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> <https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/refuse-to-get-a-vaccine-you-might-be-h
> it-with-expensive-medical-bills-employer-mandates/ar-AANjhzM?ocid=msedgnt
> p>
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> <https://tinyurl.com/853ca2cb>
>
> Refuse to get a vaccine? You might be hit with expensive medical bills,
> employer mandates, Ken Alltucker.

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