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Stephen Morgan

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Nov 3, 2001, 3:46:44 PM11/3/01
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Court judgments called into
question

Comparing the treatment of two driving offences as reported in the
Advertiser last week, I found the magistrates'
thinking impossible to follow.

The first case involved a woman almost three times over the legal
drink drive limit who was involved in an accident
but failed to stop.

She received two years' probation and a three year ban and was fined
£150 with £55 costs.

The second case involved a young man who was sober, had all his
driving documents in order, but who fled from police
when he was blue flashed while talking to friends from his stationary
car.

Chased by the police he went through a red light and exceeded the
speed limit but was not involved in any accident.

He was gaoled for four months, banned for two years and must retake
his driving test.

The two offences and the magistrates' response raise many disturbing
questions, not least that of why the young man
was approached by a police car with flashing lights when he was doing
nothing illegal.

One wonders what the police and magistrates' reaction would have been
if the roles had been reversed - the young man a
drunk driver and the woman seen chatting to friends from her car.

I would like to think that police and magistrates are not influenced
by age, gender, social classification, or ethnic
background, but I think we still have a long way to go.

In the meantime the young man will have four months in a criminal
environment, at great expense to the taxpayer, to
gen up on the Highway Code. - BAFFLED, (Name and address supplied.)

--
We always obeyed the law. Isn't that what you do in America? Even if you
don't agree with a law personally, you still obey it. Otherwise life
would be chaos.
-- Gertrude Scholtz-Klink, Chief of the Nazi Women's Bureau

Was there ever any domination that did not appear natural to those who
possessed it?
-- John Stuart Mill

Unreasonablewomyn

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Nov 4, 2001, 10:33:20 PM11/4/01
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they are supposed to be influenced, that's what legal feminist scholars keep
trying to do!

you must look at the individual..............was she aboriginal, was it a
first offence? judges take mitigating factors into account in
sentencing.......at least they are supposed to


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Stephen Morgan

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Nov 4, 2001, 10:54:24 PM11/4/01
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In soc.men, Unreasonablewomyn wrote:
> they are supposed to be influenced, that's what legal feminist scholars keep
> trying to do!

Yes, we know that.

> you must look at the individual..............was she aboriginal,

Is drink driving okay for aboriginals? Is hitting and running okay for
aboriginals? Besides, this is England, there aren't any laws protecting
the aboriginals, racist.

> was it a
> first offence?

First offence for both of them, I think. I don't remember the original
articles.

> judges take mitigating factors into account in
> sentencing.......at least they are supposed to

She was involved in a hit'n'run while drunk driving, he broke a few
minor laws while running from the oppressive police. If anyone should be
going to jail it's her, not him.

Asia

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Nov 5, 2001, 3:00:06 AM11/5/01
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"Stephen Morgan" <ncav...@crosswinds.net> wrote in message
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I have to question if we are really getting the whole story here. Usually
people don't race off speeding to get away from the cops unless they were
doing something illegal. Did the man have drugs in his car? Did he have a
past record? Has he done this before?

Did he have the same judge and jury as the woman? No. Is it possible that
same judge and jury would of been more lenient with him? Yes.

Asia

Stephen Morgan

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Nov 5, 2001, 3:28:14 AM11/5/01
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He was talking on his mobile phone in the car, it's illegal to do that
while driving, he may have thought it was illegal while parked and
paniced.

> Did the man have drugs in his car? Did he have a
> past record? Has he done this before?

Not that the Advertiser mentioned, no.

> Did he have the same judge and jury as the woman? No.

Might've.

> Is it possible that
> same judge and jury would of been more lenient with him? Yes.

It's possible but there's no reason to believe that's the case. This is
consistent with the anti-male bias of the courts. Besides, there wasn't
a jury, it was a magistrates thing.

GodHimself

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Nov 5, 2001, 10:20:15 PM11/5/01
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"Asia" <jewe...@home.com> wrote in
news:aGrF7.22014$Tb.11...@news1.sttln1.wa.home.com:

Funnily enough, you can actually flee from police(complete with flashing
lights and all that) without even knowing it.

>
> Did he have the same judge and jury as the woman? No. Is it possible that
> same judge and jury would of been more lenient with him? Yes.

How very feminist of you. Always look for reasons why the man *must* have
been guilty, while ignoring the fact that the woman's offence was far worse
than his.

>
> Asia
>
>>
>> --
>> We always obeyed the law. Isn't that what you do in America? Even if you
>> don't agree with a law personally, you still obey it. Otherwise life
>> would be chaos.
>> -- Gertrude Scholtz-Klink, Chief of the Nazi Women's Bureau
>>
>> Was there ever any domination that did not appear natural to those who
>> possessed it?
>> -- John Stuart Mill
>
>
>

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From: "Boinkers" <mrsr...@yahoo.ca>
Newsgroups: ott.general
Subject: Re: Good grief :-(

as IF i am concerned, as a feminist, about men's poverty
rates............you take up that mission, i have enough of mine and
dealing
with pricks like you

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