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Ian

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Oct 16, 2003, 2:34:19 PM10/16/03
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This is of course one of the great unknown unkowns. Just
exactly how many women, knowing how easily they spot
skin blemishes, use the total denial technique to evade
detection.

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When mothers diguise the violence.

Times have changed. When once in the annals of history
women were decreed to be the fair sex, it now appears
that in fact they're just better at hiding the scars.

Child welfare officer Judy Simpson of Rutland, Vt, has
proposed an extraordinary claim as to why some mothers
go to extraordinary lengths to make last minute attempts
to prevent paternal visits.

"She's stopping him see the bruises." she admits. In
her experience green mountain women are just as violent
as the men. "There are plenty of men who are bad" she
says, "to the bone some of them, and they are removed
as quick as we can spot them, but I've seen quite a few
nasty women too, both now, and in previous jobs I've
had in community healthcare. I've been saying this for
years, but no-one has listened."

This goes hand in hand with many findings that recent
research has shed light on. The evidence is pointing
to conclusions that most people would find distasteful.
"Many people like to think that violence between couples
has a root single cause. One partner is bad, or the
other, but I think that some couples just rub each other
up the wrong way, and in these cases it's hard to point
the blame. It's usually the man who gets it though. My
problem is, what happens when the man is gone, and one
of the children then rubs the woman up the wrong way
in his absence. This is when the switch comes out. This
is when the dad has his visit aborted, at short notice.
If I were a dad, and the mother keeps making it difficult,
I'd get on the case with a video recorder, I don't like
bad men just as much as the other guy, but I aint so
stupid as to realise there are bad moms too. Problem is,
noone listens to dad. What some of these people need
to do is a few single mom family visits, it would help
them get a grip on reality."

Recent research from Ireland hints that men and women
may attack each other just as much, as each other,
indicating violence is hereditary, and not gender
specific. It's true there are few shelters for men,
and most men would be afraid of admitting it anyway.

None of the recognised experts in domestic violence
have done familial studies, so it's impossible to
determine if violent men have violent sisters, but
it will come. One thing is certain the shouting isn't
over yet. The traditional view on parenting, and who
is best at it, is being attacked on all fronts, both
here in New England, and also in old England, where a
political lobby group Fathers 4 Justice is having a
say in the UKs view on mothers as sole parents.

Whatever the truth, the next few years will see a
radical change in family affairs.

Bob

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Oct 16, 2003, 5:11:02 PM10/16/03
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Ian wrote:
> This is of course one of the great unknown unkowns. Just
> exactly how many women, knowing how easily they spot
> skin blemishes, use the total denial technique to evade
> detection.
>
> ==============================================================
> When mothers diguise the violence.
>
> Times have changed. When once in the annals of history
> women were decreed to be the fair sex, it now appears
> that in fact they're just better at hiding the scars.
>
> Child welfare officer Judy Simpson of Rutland, Vt, has
> proposed an extraordinary claim as to why some mothers
> go to extraordinary lengths to make last minute attempts
> to prevent paternal visits.
>
> "She's stopping him see the bruises." she admits. In
> her experience green mountain women are just as violent
> as the men. "There are plenty of men who are bad" she
> says, "to the bone some of them, and they are removed
> as quick as we can spot them, but I've seen quite a few
> nasty women too, both now, and in previous jobs I've
> had in community healthcare. I've been saying this for
> years, but no-one has listened."


Will anyone listen to her? Women do twice as much child abuse as
fathers, but they always get custody because of very sexist courts that
hurt children as a matter of procedure.

Bob

Society

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Oct 16, 2003, 7:06:37 AM10/16/03
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"Ian" <dra...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> This is of course one of the great unknown unkowns. Just
> exactly how many women, knowing how easily they spot
> skin blemishes, use the total denial technique to evade
> detection.
>
> ======================================
> When mothers diguise the violence.
>
> Times have changed. When once in the annals of history
> women were decreed to be the fair sex, it now appears
> that in fact they're just better at hiding the scars.
>
> Child welfare officer Judy Simpson of Rutland, Vt, has
> proposed an extraordinary claim as to why some mothers
> go to extraordinary lengths to make last minute attempts
> to prevent paternal visits.
>
> "She's stopping him see the bruises." she admits. [...]

Ian, what was your source for this article? Because
the adults who are regulars to these news groups
know better than to suppose what Ms. Simpson
said was "an extraordinary claim", I doubt that you
wrote this stuff yourself. This article you supplied
will be useful as a citation to support arguments
that undermine the reflexive womenfirster attitudes
of newbies to these happy little newsgroups and
the immature sorts who cling to illusions about
their mommies.

--
"Whaddya mean my mommy wasn't a saint?" asked
the sucker for every womenfirster mind game and
guilt trip that comes along.


No Snarling Bitches

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Oct 27, 2003, 1:53:29 PM10/27/03
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Been there.

When my father was gone -- at work-- my mother would launch into me. She was
very unhappy with her life and needed a scapegoat. I suffered short term and
long term physical damage and long term psychological damage.

I am in my fifties and have hearing problems in both ears from being
repeatedly slapped. I have sinus problems caused by deviations in my nose
caused by blows and finally, there's good reason to believe I am sterile and
have been since puberty.

She would attack me in my sleep. The first blow was the most damaging since
I didn't have a chance to cover up. I would also be sucker punched at the
dinner table or any where else I might happen to be at arms length
periodically.

She often would continue until she was too exhausted to move.

I think people should be held accountable regardless of gender.
Unfortunately, the snarling bitches seem to be better financed and seem to
be able to get information ignored that conflicts with their agenda.

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The thing that I found most damaging was that a lot of my decisions in life
were colored by my child hood experiences. I was set up to accept abusive
relationships because it was all that I had known.

But I'm much better now.


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Bob

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Oct 27, 2003, 2:05:57 PM10/27/03
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No Snarling Bitches wrote:
> Been there.
>
> When my father was gone -- at work-- my mother would launch into me. She was
> very unhappy with her life and needed a scapegoat. I suffered short term and
> long term physical damage and long term psychological damage.
>
> I am in my fifties and have hearing problems in both ears from being
> repeatedly slapped. I have sinus problems caused by deviations in my nose
> caused by blows and finally, there's good reason to believe I am sterile and
> have been since puberty.
>
> She would attack me in my sleep. The first blow was the most damaging since
> I didn't have a chance to cover up. I would also be sucker punched at the
> dinner table or any where else I might happen to be at arms length
> periodically.
>
> She often would continue until she was too exhausted to move.
>
> I think people should be held accountable regardless of gender.
> Unfortunately, the snarling bitches seem to be better financed and seem to
> be able to get information ignored that conflicts with their agenda.
>


It is like that so often. The father is away and can't protect the
children and the mother takes out her frustration on the children.
Statistically it's much worse for the kids when dad is no longer allowed
to come home at night. Nobody protects kids in single mom homes at all.

People ought to be held accountable, and ought not do that kind of thing.

Bob

merasmus

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Oct 27, 2003, 5:00:22 PM10/27/03
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"No Snarling Bitches" <nosnarli...@comcast.net> wrote in message news:<GQdnb.32935$9E1.122980@attbi_s52>...

> Been there.
>
> When my father was gone -- at work-- my mother would launch into me. She was
> very unhappy with her life and needed a scapegoat. I suffered short term and
> long term physical damage and long term psychological damage.

Sounds uncomfortably like my childhood too. I am sorry you too got
beaten. When you hate men, a small male child makes a very tempting
target. A symbol of every slight, real or imagined, standing there,
almost inviting a release, a venting. And with an army of defenders
for her violence just out the door.



>
> I am in my fifties and have hearing problems in both ears from being
> repeatedly slapped. I have sinus problems caused by deviations in my nose
> caused by blows and finally, there's good reason to believe I am sterile and
> have been since puberty.
>
> She would attack me in my sleep. The first blow was the most damaging since
> I didn't have a chance to cover up. I would also be sucker punched at the
> dinner table or any where else I might happen to be at arms length
> periodically.
>
> She often would continue until she was too exhausted to move.

Mine wasn't nearly so bad. It was usually short, followed by what
must have been remorse, but to me as a 5 year old seemed odd
inconsistency.

>
> I think people should be held accountable regardless of gender.
> Unfortunately, the snarling bitches seem to be better financed and seem to
> be able to get information ignored that conflicts with their agenda.

Some people don't care about males, sorry to say. And our leaders
agree. Everyone knows child abuse is endemic. It is just that some
children (females) count and others do not. Unless they are rich.
Turn it to a good end and nuture another man who suffered as you did.


>
> --
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> No Snarling Bitches
> nosnarli...@comcast.net
> Antifeminist Extremist Art Work
> http://nosnarlingbitches.home.comcast.net
> --------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> The thing that I found most damaging was that a lot of my decisions in life
> were colored by my child hood experiences. I was set up to accept abusive
> relationships because it was all that I had known.

Yes. We are trained for abuse. And we find it easily, sadly.

Bob

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Oct 27, 2003, 6:32:12 PM10/27/03
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merasmus wrote:
> "No Snarling Bitches" <nosnarli...@comcast.net> wrote in message news:<GQdnb.32935$9E1.122980@attbi_s52>...
>
>>Been there.
>>
>>When my father was gone -- at work-- my mother would launch into me. She was
>>very unhappy with her life and needed a scapegoat. I suffered short term and
>>long term physical damage and long term psychological damage.
>
>
> Sounds uncomfortably like my childhood too. I am sorry you too got
> beaten. When you hate men, a small male child makes a very tempting
> target. A symbol of every slight, real or imagined, standing there,
> almost inviting a release, a venting. And with an army of defenders
> for her violence just out the door.


Women hating men is the primary reason for MGM in the US. Oh, they
whine and give a lot of justification, but they don't do FGM. The man
hating mothers only hurt their boys.

Bob

connor_a

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Oct 27, 2003, 6:58:47 PM10/27/03
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Bob <boby...@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:<3F9D6C95...@hotmail.com>...

>
> It is like that so often. The father is away and can't protect the
> children and the mother takes out her frustration on the children.
> Statistically it's much worse for the kids when dad is no longer allowed
> to come home at night. Nobody protects kids in single mom homes at all.
>
> People ought to be held accountable, and ought not do that kind of thing.
>
> Bob

Absolutely - we all have this unquenchable thirst to draft
pro-feminist women, every last man-fucking one of 'em ;-)

No Snarling Bitches!

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