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Andrew Usher

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Jul 6, 2009, 12:20:14 AM7/6/09
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Recently I've seen several web site using the term 'denialism'. They,
for the most part, provide a good insight into the phenomenon.
However, a fallacy I have seen in that all of these appear to
indiscriminately label right-wing politics 'denialism', weakening the
force of their arguments. I'll try to start from scratch.

First let's name a few examples of denialism, ones that everyone
should agree to be so. One of them is the one people usually associate
with the term - Holocaust denial. It is often thought that Holocaust
deniers are just lying for anti-Semitic purposes; I don't buy it.
While most of them are anti-Semites, they honestly do believe it.
Another is AIDS denial; this may have started as a scientific theory
but quickly became a kind of denialism.

The third example is creationism, at least in the expositions that
most people are exposed to. What do these have in common? It is that,
from the perspective of someone acquainted with the facts, they appear
to be blatantly lying, yet they think they are being honest. They have
a pre-conceived idea that, for whatever reason, is held so strongly
that it distorts their thinking - all facts are interpreted in the
light of the idea, and either ignored or twisted to fit the theory.

Let me now turn to the second part of my title. Crank theories are
familiar to every scientist. Crank theories are those that start from
premisses wildly at variance with reality, but the crank can't see
this. He believes himself to be a genius and anyone that disagrees to
be simply ignorant.

What is the difference between crankery and denialism? It is, I
believe, the motive of the proponent. The crank has faith in his
_mind_ and espouses the idea fundamentally because it it his; the
denialist has faith in his _feelings_ and espouses the idea
fundamentally because he wants to believe it for non-rational reasons.
Cranks, therefore, tend to be more intelligent than denialists. Other
differences can be found, too. Cranks are almost always male,
denialists are about equally men and women (This is no doubt due to
the male superiority for abstract thinking; crankery being a bad
effect of that.) Cranks often have invested considerable time and
effort in working out their theories, while denialists do not invest
any such effort until challenged. They have in common that they both
tend to hypothesise conspiracy theories to explain their lack of
success in convincing others, and very seldom will abandon their
beliefs.

What about conspiracy theories, in the common meaning? The originator
of conspiracy theories normally have the motivations of a crank, while
the followers of one those of a denialist. This follows from the
definitions. While a denialist usually does not invent a theory as
complex as most conspiracies, and has no motivation to do so, he is
quite willing to follow an existing theory that appeals to him in some
way and thereafter looks at all other related facts through his
denialist glasses. The crank, on the other hand, is quite willing to
invent comprehensive theories once he gets an idea, but has less of a
motive to join another crank's theory, because it doesn't feed his
ego. They can overlap, as for example in those that dissent from
global warming. A few people with that idea have crank motivations,
more have denialist motivations, some have both, but the majority of
ordinary people have neither and simply don't investigate the topic in
any detail.

There are more denialists than cranks simply because denialism
requires no intellectual powers, while crankery does require some - or
at least enough to convince one that one is a genius.

One more example requires addressing. This is Langmuir's 'pathological
science'. This seems to have more the motivation of a crank, while
adopt the methods of denialism. The difference, though, is that most
scientists that have pathological ideas eventually do abandon them, if
much more slowly than they should. This is no doubt because of their
lack of the emotional involvement that denialists have. It should,
however, be considered as a type of crankery rather than denialism,
because we know many examples of scientists that crossed the line into
crankery on some issue, while I know of no real scientists that became
honest denialists.

Andrew Usher

Australia Mining Pioneer & Founder of the True Geology

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Jul 6, 2009, 1:08:46 AM7/6/09
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Thanks for introducing yourself : Are you a crank, a denialist, a
conspiracist, a creationist/evolutionist or evolutionist/creationist
(same folly), a sci000ntific fool standing for Ice Ages, Glaciation,
Continental rafting, Carbonate sedimentation from fossils reduction,
stabillity of Earth on Ecliptics, rotation & revolution from inertia,
etc etc etc..........;

.... in brief are you a BIG BOOMER alongside 1000s of other
Universities brainwashed imbeciles ?

If so, you are certainly as well as denialist of the Russian Holocaust
(100 millions victims & 1 100 death camps) denialist of the French
Holocaust ( 10 millions victims & genocide of 2 milions Vendéens)
denialist of the 9/11 Holocaust mass murder of American by Bush & co,
denialist of the Port Arthur mass murder by Howard & co !

Look Andrewr, you 've really spoiled my day by demonstrating to what
extent an otherwise agreeable & civil young gentleman of your kind (an
a excellent second at tennis to boost) can be conceited to the point
of presenting under the pretence of honesty one of the most worn out &
unpalatable defense of fraudulent & misleading system of thought : in
clear Righthousness !

You 're clearly remembering me of Jean Calvin sending Michel Servetus
to the stake in 1553 :
"If he [Servetus] comes [to Geneva], I shall never let him go out
alive if my authority has weight."

Now Servetus was obviously a denialist of the "holy trinity" a crank,
a conspiracionist etc all bundled up into what 's clearly an
"Heretic"

...and whom, you Andrew Usher, the absolute reference with regards
to what is true or false, would blithely send to the stakes, while
hiding (as Calvin did) when the flames would rise to engulf your
opposition !

With best but sorry regards

Sir Jean-Paul Turcaud
Australia Mining Pioneer
Discoverer & Legal Owner of Telfer Mine (Australia largest Copper &
Gold MIne)
Nifty (Cu) & Kintyre (U, Th) Mines, all in the Great Sandy Desert
Exploration Geologist & Offshore Consultant
Founder of the True Geology

~ Ignorance is the Cosmic Sin, the One Never Forgiven ~

Published by AMERICAN CHRONICLE
"True Geology" Foundation Document
http://www.americanchronicle.com/articles/69327
"Turcaud Bath" as a free gift to Suffering Humanity
http://www.americanchronicle.com/articles/view/107947


Andrew Usher

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On Jul 5, 11:08 pm, "Australia Mining Pioneer & Founder of the True
Geology" <jpturc...@neuf.fr> wrote:

<snip>

You must really be smoking something, I see.

Anyway, I hoped (which is why I included soc.men) that someone would
see that denialist
tactics are used at least as much by those on the left, that examples
of left-wing denialism
include feminism and race-denialism and others that we call 'political
correctness'. You see,
while crank theories can never become really popular as such,
denialist theories can because
of the emotional appeal I referenced. So the latter are really much
more dangerous.

Andrew Usher

♂ ☿ Turin ☤ ☭

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And, wrapping this up into some sort of conclusion, we can roughly
assign each of these concepts into more meaningful, conventional
terms; thereby beginning a process of making them potentially useful:

Crankery Ideology
Denialism Pragmatism


Having two dialectic poles, we may now introduce a third concept to
our study, from the synthesis of the two, and likewise assign it a
more meaningful, conventional term:

Posturer Moderate


This gives Andrew's understanding of what he read at the website a
connection to a more common world view that many more people share.

Now, employing Andrew's shaky exposition, we may arrive at the
understanding of why the Ideologue is the one who possesses
intelligence, as well as being the one who formulates a plan to
follow. Likewise, why the Pragmatist is the one who is emotion
driven, in accordance with his short view nature, as well as being the
one who follows trusted old formulas created by past great
Ideologues.

Furthermore, we discover the role of the moronic Moderate in this new
scheme of things. He is the posturing fool who forever concerns
himself with political positioning and centrism. His cowardly goal is
to permanently perch his useless eater stupid ass on the fence, whilst
casting a critical eye - and many aspersions - at everyone else who
faces the challenges of life and thereby fights it out ....to his own
benefit at no expense to his own do-nothing worthless self.


Those who analyze such dichotomies (of the "ex-treeeeeemists"),
generally aren't too loud about their own roles within their own great
world views. There isn't much to say about them, after all. They
eat. They drink. They're merry. And ...thankfully... they finally
fucking ☠DIE☠.

OTHERS are the ones who fight great, "bloody" wars in the name of
"inane" beliefs and purposes of being (or, really, just purposes to
make *this* life work out according to some plan), for no apparent
reason that the lamely smiling moderate can fathom.

But THEY'RE the superstars of personal indulgence who "heroically"
coast through life, grabbing everything out of it that they can, while
doing the absolute minimum necessary to prove their worth to
themselves, to this life, or to any other. They go through the
motions of life. They do and think little more than to ape and parrot
off of each other. They posture. Their developed cognitive abilities
are limited to critiquing and pathologizing those who do try to become
more than the sum of their parts. This is because they, themselves,
are 1) Stupid, 2) Unproductive, 3) Inferior and 3) Jealous.

When one understands this, new vistas of possibility are opened up as
a discernable path suddenly begins to take shape through the senseless
chaos that lies around us. It is then that we see through these
circular dichotomies and small-minded paradigms and the convoluted
fools who hang onto them......

- - -

"This is my beloved son, in whom I am well pleased; hear ye him":

Turin


I have such sites to show you...
------------------------

http://www.myspace.com/turin_turambar
http://groups.google.com/group/Men_First/
http://turinturambar.fortunecity.com/blog/

------------------------

"He who changeth, altereth, misconstrueth, argueth with, deleteth, or
maketh a lie about these words or causeth them to not be known shall
burn in hell forever and ever...."

-----

> Andrew Usher

Australia Mining Pioneer & Founder of the True Geology

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Jul 7, 2009, 1:36:47 AM7/7/09
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On Jul 7, 5:27 am, ♂ ☿ Turin ☤ ☭ <turinturamba...@gmail.com> wrote:

Are you speaking with or without your shroud ?

... and you know of course this was an obvious fraud, since that JC
character firstly never existed except as Zealot murdering leader
Ioshuah Bar Judah of Gamala aka Massada, ... secondly the printed
features are the ones of a Celt & not of a circumcised alien !
See the manipulation ?

... and also that materialist Hell is just a fabrication as the
materialists Heaven, tied up indeed with a materialistic view of our
environment.

Sir Jean-Paul Turcaud
Australia Mining PIoneer

Australia Mining Pioneer & Founder of the True Geology

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On Jul 6, 11:32 pm, Andrew Usher <k_over_hb...@yahoo.com> wrote:


* that examples
*> of left-wing denialism
*> include feminism and race-denialism and others that we call
'political
*> correctness'. You see,
*> while crank theories can never become really popular as such,
*> denialist theories can because
*> of the emotional appeal I referenced. So the latter are really much
*> more dangerous.
*>
*> Andrew Usher

Replying to world famous renowned thinker : Andrew Usher Esq.
********************************************************


Dear Andrew,
Yours are not crank theories, I see.... and as the Usher, only are
accepted within the Cenacle, those fortunate enough to have found
grace in your short minded vision
( is short minded appropriate or should I have said tunnel vision ?
please correct as appropriate )

Now regarding race denialist, I am quite sensitive & most aware of
that subject to the point indeed that I have developed an
understanding as to how easy it is to shift one race into another
( not the inverse though)
I have in my comprehensive library ( not exclusively devoted to
physical sciences indeed) very special books on endocrinology. In one
there is the photo of a white man at 29 ( Caucasian) and 3 photos
further the one of a full fledged Negro of 42, and this is the same
man indeed.
Do you pretend to cure Down syndrome children ? Of course not ! Well
this is damned easy & the genetic aberration is not a cause but a
consequence....
Again on race manipulation :
The whole Bible smoke screen tale cover up one of the most secret &
well hidden genetic manipulation towards what is known as the Chosen
Race. Its two pillars are (1) circumcision which is immediate
tempering with the endocrine system, which endocrine system is the
interface to the genetic code, and (2) the Kosher or purity Laws whose
aim is to maintain the modified DNA or Human genome without
interference from the Hormones contained in the blood of murdered
innocent animals The Salomon Temple in this regard is a Ritual
Slaughterhouse which demonstrates on scale one what is to be done to
precisely achieve that, for the benefit of primitive & uneducated
nomadic tribes !
When realize all the fuss & literature on that Bible plagiarism fraud
& the real Ariana thread underlining it, one is puzzled by how easy
it is to put it over a gullible sectarian Humanity, and what genius it
takes to undercover such 6000 years standing manipulation !
The Jews are not born Jews ( but Khazars for the Ashke-nazi & Arabs
for the Sephardic) but made Jews on the 1st day of the 1st puberty
or 8th day after birth ( for physiological reasons related to the
genetic manipulation upon which I will not elaborate here) The
specific traits of the Jews well documented indeed are anecdotic when
not understanding the real reason of such alien & immoral mentality
( the females still being affected by direct descent in 3
generations)
The Islamists are not born Islamists , but anything from Arabs to
Mongols, but the 2nd puberty endocrine mutilation make them Islamists
with the specific hateful & hard features specific to that new alien
race ( the females still being affected in direct descent for 3
generations )
The Negroes are born Negroes, but the specific traits are the results
on the one hand* of endocrine mutilation of both male & female &
carried through for 3 generations indeed. In areas where thanks to
White influence like in Belgium Congo through Christian priests
indeed who stopped the mutilation of both male & female, the features
are reverting to a proper Human biological & moral likeness.
Especially noted by the refinement of the nose & the noted moral
evolution. On the other hand by the indulging in cannibalism & related
primate meat.
Of course both Islamists nor Negroes are aware of the Kosher laws or
Laws of Genetic Purity, maintaining the Human genome on permanent
progression toward the SAN GRAAL or Sang Royal or Still Royal Blood !

Of course as well the Christians are not aware at all of the Kosher
laws & their influence in the shaping or rather the prevention of
interference to the Human Genetic Code by the Hormones containing food
which they eat ... hence making of that poor trusting Rabble the like
of pigs, cows, sheep, chicken & anything at all indeed !!! ... since
the fools believe that indulging in Carrion food, drinking the blood
of slaughtered animals ( like the poor Islamists do since the Halal
ridiculous ritual does not eliminate the blood, nerves & hormones
like the vastly superior Kosher discipline does, and like all the
Negroes do of course)

Still there is an exception in that group of White (Caucasian)
Christians and these are the Hereditary Lords of Angleterre, who for
some reasons which I ignore are strictly abiding to the some Kosher
laws, rejecting Foie Gras, Frogs legs, Horses from the diet.... as
well eating all meat boiled and throwing the water into which such
meat was cooked & then putting it to finishing the job to make it
crisp into an oven.Well that practice of boiling the meat is
expellilng most of the blood and especially the hormones it contains
into the water and throwing it away as the Lords are giving
instructions to do is making that high class of people just that. This
explains on its own the easy way in which at all time the French were
beaten by les Anglais ! Indeed when the Grand Bretons were eating
their purified boiled meat with outside made sauce, not only the
French were eating choked animals like pidgeons with all the blood in
it, but as well indulging in blood dripping food, Foie Gras, Frog
Legs, Horses, & as well when by chance cooking meat in water, they
would eat that purine as a soup !

It is a fact that blood thirsty & hence Hormones indulging
populations have very individual & diverging interests, while those
even somehow unaware of the Kosher rules are by the purity of their
ways of eating brought closer by invisible bond making then Strong
Community of Interests

This how History can be re-written in light of the views of a
Discoverer & Initiate indeed to some of the Highest Mysteries

Sir Jean-Paul Turcaud
Australia Mining Pioneer
Discoverer & Legal Owner of Telfer Mine (Australia largest Copper &
Gold MIne)
Nifty (Cu) & Kintyre (U, Th) Mines, all in the Great Sandy Desert
Exploration Geologist & Offshore Consultant

Founder of the True Geology

~ Ignorance is the Cosmic Sin, the One Never Forgiven ~

Andrew Usher

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On Jul 7, 12:45 am, "Australia Mining Pioneer & Founder of the True
Geology" <jpturc...@neuf.fr> wrote:

> Replying to world famous renowned thinker : Andrew Usher Esq.
> ********************************************************

I think I have a better intellectual reputation than you, at least.

> Dear Andrew,
> Yours are not crank theories, I see.... and as the Usher, only are
> accepted within the Cenacle, those fortunate enough to have found
> grace in your short minded vision
> ( is short minded appropriate or should I have said tunnel vision ?
> please correct as appropriate )

No, I don't think anything I've promulgated could qualify, but you're
welcome to try showing that.

> Now regarding race denialist, I am quite sensitive & most aware of
> that subject to the point indeed that I have developed an
> understanding as to how easy it is to shift one race into another
> ( not the inverse though)

And what would 'the inverse' be?

> I have in my comprehensive library ( not exclusively devoted to
> physical sciences indeed) very special books on endocrinology. In one
> there is the photo of a white man at 29 ( Caucasian) and 3 photos
> further the one of a full fledged Negro of 42, and this is the same
> man indeed.

Sure, and you've been abducted by aliens.

> Do you pretend to cure Down syndrome children ? Of course not ! Well
> this is damned easy & the genetic aberration is not a cause but a
> consequence....
> Again on race manipulation :
> The whole Bible smoke screen tale cover up one of the most secret &
> well hidden genetic manipulation towards what is known as the Chosen
> Race. Its two pillars are (1) circumcision which is immediate
> tempering with the endocrine system,

LOL! Circumcision has never been shown or even suggested by anyone
sane to have such an effect.

which endocrine system is the
> interface to the genetic code, and (2) the Kosher or purity Laws whose
> aim is to maintain the modified DNA or Human genome without
> interference from the Hormones contained in the blood of murdered
> innocent animals The Salomon Temple in this regard is a Ritual
> Slaughterhouse which demonstrates on scale one what is to be done to
> precisely achieve that, for the benefit of primitive & uneducated
> nomadic tribes !

Off to kook-land ...

Andrew Usher

Greatest Mining Pioneer of Australia of all Times

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On Jul 11, 11:07 am, Andrew Usher <k_over_hb...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> On Jul 7, 12:45 am, "Australia Mining Pioneer & Founder of the True
>
> Geology" <jpturc...@neuf.fr> wrote:
> > Replying to world famous renowned thinker : Andrew Usher Esq.
> > ********************************************************
>
*> I think I have a better intellectual reputation than you, at least.
Yes you have, Andrew. Just as that other 99.n % making up what 's
called consensus & upon whose opinion your rest to establish such
propoposition. Unfortunately though, all sterile intellectual slaves
without an original thought permitted by self imposed veto & over
their life time. I'd rather be a black sheep & free to think in search
for Truth related to both Mankind & Our system History : The True
Geology indeed !

>
> > Dear Andrew,
> > Yours are not crank theories, I see.... and as the Usher, only are
> > accepted within the Cenacle,  those fortunate enough to have found
> > grace in your short minded vision
> > ( is short minded appropriate or should I have said tunnel vision ?
> > please correct as appropriate )
>

*> No, I don't think anything I've promulgated could qualify, but
you're
*> welcome to try showing that.
See how the demonstration was easy, Andrew ? The very title of your
post leads to such conclusion indeed


>
> > Now regarding race denialist, I am quite sensitive & most aware of
> > that subject to the point indeed that I have developed an
> > understanding as to how easy it is to shift one race into another
> > ( not the inverse though)
>
> And what would 'the inverse' be?

Negro back to white, Ashkenazy Jew back to Khazar, Sepharade Jew back
to Arab, Islamist back to Arab, Indian etc
>
*> > I have in my comprehensive library ( not exclusively devoted to
*> > physical sciences indeed) very special books on endocrinology. In
one
*> > there is  the photo of a white man at 29 ( Caucasian) and 3
photos
*> > further the one of a full fledged Negro of 42, and this is the
same
*> > man indeed.
*
... and Dow syndrome children cured very easily 60 years ago ...while
still now the Medic Retards are unable to provide anything but bed-
mannered advices... That cure is very to implement & I know it ... but
for you this is not possible indeed ! Of course it was not mentioned
in Comics & other types of Establishment controlled publication. "
There are more things in Heaven & Earth, Andrew, Than are dreamt in
your philosophy "t
>
*> Sure, and you've been abducted by aliens.
While you of course have abducted Aliens ...


>
> > Do you pretend to cure Down syndrome children ?  Of course not ! Well
> > this is damned easy & the genetic aberration is not a cause but a
> > consequence....
> > Again on race manipulation :
> > The whole Bible smoke screen tale cover up one of the most secret &
> > well hidden genetic manipulation towards what is known as the Chosen
> > Race. Its two pillars are (1) circumcision which is immediate
> > tempering with the endocrine system,
>

*> LOL! Circumcision has never been shown or even suggested by anyone
*> sane to have such an effect.
Again a typical from an "Esprit fort" 's comment. ...by the way is
Anyone a friend of yours ? He seems to have clear cut opinion ! A
friend of Mr Consensus, I suppose.

>
>  which endocrine system is the
>
> > interface to the genetic code, and (2) the Kosher or purity Laws whose
> > aim is to maintain the modified DNA or Human genome without
> > interference from the Hormones contained in the blood of murdered
> > innocent animals The Salomon Temple in this regard is a Ritual
> > Slaughterhouse which demonstrates on scale one what is to be done to
> > precisely achieve that, for the benefit of primitive & uneducated
> > nomadic tribes !
>

*> Off to kook-land .
.You are not allowed that, Andrew. you are already in it. The funny
things is that you are not aware of it.... Amusing indeed !
>
*> Andrew Usher
jpturcaud

Andrew Usher

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On Jul 15, 12:11 am, Greatest Mining Pioneer of Australia of all Times
<australia.mining-pion...@neuf.fr> wrote:

I think you are mentally insane and there's no point talking to a
crazy person.

Andrew Usher

David Bostwick

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And you just now caught on? Or perhaps you're more patient than others.

Greatest Mining Pioneer of Australia of all Times

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On Jul 15, 2:30 pm, Andrew Usher <k_over_hb...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> On Jul 15, 12:11 am, Greatest Mining Pioneer of Australia of all Times

snip Usher 's personal & trying reply !
Resorting indeed to abuse is the common answer by little incoherent
minds, destabilized by sound opposition to their painfully learnt-by-
heart dogmas

I think you are finally a rude & most sterile blathering idiot, and I
certainly apologize on being civil to you. I hereby withdraw all kind
& polite expressions which were obviously an offence to such rude boor
as you are.
Further to a most sterile individual of your kind, I withdraw to you
any authorization which might have been granted to bring your nose
into Geological Matters ...obviously beyond your scope

...INDEED , I am sure that you beuulieve in Glaciationz, Mountain
building in zillions of yearzz, Continental Rafting, Accretion as
process of that Planet building + a 1000s other follies ...as a
typical Evolutionnits - Creationist sectarian revering as idols such
Retards as Lyell, Hutton, Darwin, Agassiz, Cuvier & Wegener


Quote
"Who lives as a fool, dies as a fool"
Jean Calvin
Unquote

No regards

jpturcaud

Andrew Usher

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David Bostwick wrote:
> In article <ebd8ce6b-b909-44cf...@c36g2000yqn.googlegroups.com>, Andrew Usher <k_over...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> >I think you are mentally insane and there's no point talking to a
> >crazy person.
>
> And you just now caught on? Or perhaps you're more patient than others.

Yes, I thought he might start making some sense. And I was hoping
someone would reply to my original post, which would at least be
interesting.

Andrew Usher

Sunny

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"Greatest boofhead of all Times" < Turcaud@Sainte_Anne_asylum.fr > wrote
in message
news:117e61b4-345b-4f0f...@k19g2000yqn.googlegroups.com...

On Jul 15, 2:30 pm, Andrew Usher <k_over_hb...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>snip Usher 's personal & trying reply !
>Resorting indeed to abuse is the common answer by little incoherent
>minds,

A truthful statement of facts is not abuse Turcaud.
(Although, in your feeble "mind", it appears to be)

Jean-Paul Turcaud
Embarrassment to France
Insane Celtic Lunatic
Founder/sole member of the True Geology
UPL - Useless Pontificating Lunatic
DDD - Demented Delusional Drongo
Psychotic French Spamming Twit
Failed Prediction Nutcase
Failed Drought Maker/weather controller
Fraud water expert
Fraud Knight
Fraud Healer of all diseases

Usenet.Kooks achievements :
Victor von Frankenstein "Weird Science" Award, August 2000
Kook of the Month, August 2001
Looney Maroon Award, August 2001
George Pickett Memorial Trophy Award August 2007
Unabomber Surprise runner up August 2007

A classic in Turcaud gobblygook speak :
http://www.usenet.com/newsgroups/sci.physics/msg15748.html


Greatest Mining Pioneer of Australia of all Times

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On Jul 16, 12:17 am, Andrew Usher <k_over_hb...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> David Bostwick wrote:
> > In article <ebd8ce6b-b909-44cf-99c6-c0a4558ee...@c36g2000yqn.googlegroups.com>, Andrew Usher <k_over_hb...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > >I think you are mentally insane and there's no point talking to a
> > >crazy person.
>
> > And you just now caught on?  Or perhaps you're more patient than others.
>
> Yes, I thought he might start making some sense. And I was hoping
> someone would reply to my original post, which would at least be
> interesting.
>
> Andrew Usher

You are in fact a whole bunch of sterile Universivities brainwashed
deluded fools, unable to catch on with the reality of our Environment
& the ridiculous dogmas upon which your alleged science is built. Just
one point in your lunacy amongst a million, the one of your Accretion
mode of formation of the Earth :
Unfortunately for you, stoopid Retards non rotating Cosmic Bodies
have no magnetic field & hence are not dipole .... consequently they
cannot attract each other as your Theories pretend, but only repulse
each other as this so evident when watching astronauts drifting away
from Nasa crafts !

Further still the random of banging of aerolites on a moving 30 km/h
target to create a planet ( the model of course applying to all the
other) is so ludicrous than able to only convince Universisites mass
produced Zombies who have no room left for individual l thinking in
their data base, besides the well implanted EPROM flashed upon receipt
of their little degrees .... degrees indeed in notorious cretinism &
blindness !

... of course one important element as well of the Universities
formating & consecutive programming is the yellow intellectual
cowardice introduced in the Higher Slavish Education ... making the
intellectual slaves indeed so dependent on consensus to the point of
not daring lift a finger unless approved by the Sheeple mob of
Scholarzzz & Sci000ntists

Now here is my reply in another thread to that autralian Mining &
Political Criminals ' mole acting under half a dozen aliases indeed

*quote*
Sunny is the son of Anglican bitch mated with a dingo, hence a gutless
anonymous criminal & former BHP fitter ... of course as a backer of
well known australia Mining & Political Criminals that Antipodean
Manure & mentally deranged filth sees in maligning one of Australia
Greatest Pioneer a occasion to promote his yellow cowardice
illustrated in Vietnam as traitor to his own comrades & indeed a well
documented indirect murderer !

Further still I happen to have an australian nationality which
although I rejected & sent that Land of Bastards passport in the mouth
of degenerate WA Premier Court junior, is still effective !

I suspect that Sunny Filth real name to Tyrwhiit, after the Lying &
Thieving Geological Criminal who took all credit for the Great Sandy
Desert Discoveries which I made, while pretending having discovered
such from the air !
Textually we find in the Mining Criminals' official report of
Newmont / Newcrest / Boral & BHP the official account of the
discoveries of all the Great Sandy Desert shows : *
Quote
I spotted the site from the air and landed near by in the desert to
take samples
Tyrwhitt
Unquote

Needless to say that neither the Tyrwhitt Crriminal & australia
official mining Hero does explain how he survived the crash landing,
nor how he took off from the trackless, and & spinifex desert again ?
Of course that debased filth of Sunny, motivated by the hate of far
superior beings to his degenerate & sick state, find par proxy an
occasion to boost himself by praising & then assimilate himself to
successful Mining & Political Criminals

NEEDLESS TO SAY AS WELL THAT THIS WILL NOT PREVENT ME TO DISCLOSE SOON
A MOST EASY WAY TO CURE FLU OVERNIGHT ... and this could be the reason
for such stalking from the Australian Mining & Political Criminals '
mole ! Indeed there is a hell of cash to make with the coming &
imposed Flu vaccine & the consequences in millions of dead through the
world is of no consequence indeed


Sir Jean-Paul Turcaud
Australia Mining Pioneer

Greatest Mining Pioneer of Australia of all Times

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Sir Jean-Paul Turcaud
Australia Mining Pioneer

Sunny

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"Greatest Wanker of all Times" <australia...@neuf.fr> wrote in
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On Jul 16, 12:17 am, Andrew Usher <k_over_hb...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> David Bostwick wrote:
>*quote*
<Sunny is the son of Anglican bitch mated with a dingo, hence a gutless
anonymous criminal & former BHP fitter

** Wrong Turdo, I was a Railway Fitter & Machinist
(Worked for 6 months as a Machinist for BHP)

... of course as a backer of
well known australia Mining & Political Criminals that Antipodean
Manure & mentally deranged filth sees in maligning one of Australia
Greatest Pioneer a occasion to promote his yellow cowardice
illustrated in Vietnam as traitor to his own comrades & indeed a well
documented indirect murderer !

** Wrong again Turdo the only "document you are quoting is a statement by
fellow retard Serge.
(Part of the Lunatic Pack trio - Le Turd, Kangastain and Serge)

Further still I happen to have an australian nationality which
although I rejected & sent that Land of Bastards passport in the mouth
of degenerate WA Premier Court junior, is still effective !

** Try to renew it and see what happens.

I suspect that Sunny Filth real name to Tyrwhiit,

** Wrong again Turdo


Greatest Mining Pioneer of Australia of all Times

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On Jul 16, 9:34 am, Greatest Mining Pioneer of Australia of all Times

Indeed !
"Non obstant" the worthless input from the antipodean Murdering Swine

...and by the way the Collective Chastisements legally imposed on
Australia at large for its Collective Crimes are in full
implementation, & By Order indeed !
Monitoring the situation from here, it appears that all markers are
positive towards a overwhelming conquest by the Great Sandy Desert of
the Whole Land Of Bastards ( LOB) aka Australia indeed !
Soon to be called Austral Desert Island Continent or ADIC
WELLDONE

This is what I have commanded and this what is being executed ... with
the abominable antipodean toads bleating at the present time on their
knees & to their respective JIC ( judeo-islamo-christian) low flying
Spook for a Rain WHICH WILL NOT COME ... as I have decided indeed !

...and the lesson to be learned by that Antipodean Convict Scum at
large is :
*Crime does not pay
*but
*Collective Crimes still pay less

Still, quite hard to get the message through their thick skulls ...
but they will learn once the nose in the dirt

Greatest Mining Pioneer of Australia of all Times

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Thank you for that contribution... indeed the Dizeaze Industry (DI)
is cashing on fear & ignorance and in this light the "Turcaud Bath"
which I have developed to give away to suffering Humanity is a
definitive parade to those needles waving criminal Loons ...indeed
pushing in at the same time than their worthless vaccines which in
all
cases generate worse consequences for the dudes trusting the DI
Indeed the Jenner Criminal's small pox vaccine started the
Tuberculosis plague after murdering his own eldest son with his
Sorcerer apprentice ' brew

Pasteur another noted Criminal who falsified the results of his
Pouilly le Fort experiment which sat the alleged validity of his
Anthrax serum, was very careful NOT to disclose, that unknown to all,
he
had added to the serum a very potent Alkaline & Oxydiser ( Dichromate
of Potasse) and made his assistant Prof Ramon swear that him alive
never such information should appear. It followed that the Anglais,
the Argentines, Germans, Italians etc were all unable to reproduce
the
Pouilly le Fort demonstration attracting conceited comments from the
'Grand Homme' that the procedure had not been followed. Only after
his
death did the Académie de Médecine admitted that an "excipient" or
"activateur" had been added to the Pasteur serum. Pasteur can be
praised with the consecutive lung cancers resulting from Tuberculosis
vaccine !

Thank you to Jenner & Pasteur, the twin Gods of the juicy vaccine
industry and indeed of the DI at large.

Of course like in Geology, in the DI only the most crude & primitive
jumping to conclusion is admitted...we find worms & flies on manure
heaps, right ? according to the special degenerate inductive &
deductive logic of those Universiities brainwashed Quack parasites,
worms & flies are the cause of the heaps of manure ...

...and mutatis mutandis germs, viruses & genes the causes of all
dizeazezzz befalling Humanity ! ... with the DI cash counter ringing
madly in answer indeed
Please :

TAKE "TURCAUD BATH" WITH CONFIDENCE

Sir Jean-Paul Turcaud
Australia Mining Pioneer

Discoverer & Legal Owner of Telfer Mine (Australia largest Copper &

Gold Mine)


Nifty (Cu) & Kintyre (U, Th) Mines, all in the Great Sandy Desert
Exploration Geologist & Offshore Consultant

Founder of the True Geology

~ Ignorance is the Cosmic Sin, the One Never Forgiven ~

for background info.
http://www.tnet.com.au/~warrigal/grule.html
http://users.indigo.net.au/don/tel/index.html
http://users.indigo.net.au/don/tel/nac.html
http://members.iimetro.com.au/~hubbca/turcaud.htm
http://www.abc.net.au/rn/talks/bbing/stories/s28534.htm

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