Re: Who has the rights?
Society
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>
> Jane wrote:
>
> > An interesting question arising from a "heated"
> > discussion I had with my husband last night.
> > If my mother in law were to want to take my 2
> > children (age 6 and 11) on holiday for 3-5 days
> > who would have final say? [...]
>
> "My" 2 children? Is your husband really the father?
> I'll assume he is, in which case they are also *his*
> children.
Except Jane doesn't 'get it', Steenkin Man.
She considers the chldren her chattels
and feels her control over them is threatened
by the possibility that the children might
have an experience that would help them
cut Jane's ol' apron strings and start on
the path toward growing up to be
independent persons. Sheesh.
> I note that you're more interested in your
> own wishes than your children's. You haven't
> even mentioned what they think. It's not
> surprising that your husband wants to get
> them out of your way for a few days.
My thoughts exactly, Steenkin Man.
--
Men are people with feelings.
Jane
doubt that these kids wont come to any harm away from me? How do you
know Im not in an abusive relationship? You dont. So please, stick
to the legal advice and let me do the parenting.
You may consider growing up a little while you are at it.
Palindr☻me
It isn't legal advice but just passing on the impression that few
husbands seem to be able to organise their own clothing for a holiday -
let alone organise clothing for their children. This must be
particularly so if the wife is being uncooperative and has picked that
particular moment to do a mega-wash and the husband would need to dry
and/or iron the kids' clothing..
Wives can also make it very clear that the odd battle may not go their
way but the term "battle axe" is as fearsome today as it was when men
were men and women poisoned them...
--
Sue
J. Anderson
mentioned. How controlling.
divine_austerlitz
<janeb...@yahoo.com> writes
>An interesting question arising from a "heated" discussion I had with
>my husband last night. If my mother in law were to want to take my 2
>children (age 6 and 11) on holiday for 3-5 days who would have final
>
>We are married and obviously have equal rights in the home, however, I
>feel strongly I dont want them taken away by my mother in law. Do my
>wishes count?
>Jane
Your husband has the rights, of course. You do not have equal rights.
Get used to it.
And don't be so melodramatic. The children are not being 'taken away'
by your mother-in-law - they are going on holiday for a few days with
their grandmother.
--
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Batroc Z Leaper
janeb...@yahoo.com (Jane) says...
> How do you
> know Im not in an abusive relationship? You dont.
Actually, it is apparent that you are quite abusive. Your husband is to
be commended for wanting to give your children a break. However, I have
a suggestion. Why don't you let the children's father decide what is
best for them? You and your husband could agree to abide by what their
father says.
Cynic
If thjere was any more to it, then you should have said so as it would
be *very* relevant to any advice you get.
The fact that you are not saying so now leads me to the conclusion
that it is *not* the case.
If it is, and you want informed advice, then spell it out.
--
Cynic
Matthew Maddock
"Cynic" <cyni...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
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It is true that we do not know the full facts of why the OP does not want
her kids to go on holiday with these people. My own partner had a
mentally and physically abusive step-mother, and therefore does not want
her own children to have anything to do with her. She is protecting
her children rather than being a bad mother. This may or may not be
the case here.
However, if the OP seeks to get appropriate advice then they should
disclose everything, lest be subject to these kind of comments and
bad advice. It is only possible to offer appropriate advice given the
full facts of the case. From the original post, it appeared that the
reason was just that she "did not like her" which is not a good enough
excuse. Given the truth of the situation, however embarrassing or
personal any revelation may be, better advice would have been
forthcoming,
Matt.
Lady Chatterly
Cynic <cyni...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
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>On 20 Sep 2004 11:32:26 -0700, janeb...@yahoo.com (Jane) wrote:
>
>>And you know the situation then? You can say without a shadow of a
>>doubt that these kids wont come to any harm away from me? How do you
>>know Im not in an abusive relationship? You dont. So please, stick
>>to the legal advice and let me do the parenting.
>>You may consider growing up a little while you are at it.
>
>If thjere was any more to it, then you should have said so as it would
>be *very* relevant to any advice you get.
If I said anything to you that I should be sorry for, I'm glad.
>The fact that you are not saying so now leads me to the conclusion
>that it is *not* the case.
What makes you think I am not saying so now leads you to the
conclusion that it is not the case?
>If it is, and you want informed advice, then spell it out.
I previously informed your sieve-like cranium, I have no problem apart
from a dullard presently engaged in a desperate search for my
attention.
--
Lady Chatterly
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>Date: 9/20/2004 10:02 PM Pacific Daylight Time
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"Hyerdahl1" <hyer...@aol.com> wrote in message
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> >Subject: Re: Who has the rights?
> >From: Batroc Z Leaper hot...@teleport.com
> >Date: 9/20/2004 10:02 PM Pacific Daylight Time
> >Message-id: <MPG.1bb9555fb...@news.west.earthlink.net>
> >
> >In article <e6e072e6.04092...@posting.google.com>,
> >janeb...@yahoo.com (Jane) says...
> >
> >> How do you
> >> know Im not in an abusive relationship? You dont.
> >
> >Actually, it is apparent that you are quite abusive. Your husband is to
> >be commended for wanting to give your children a break. However, I have
> >a suggestion. Why don't you let the children's father decide what is
> >best for them? You and your husband could agree to abide by what their
> >father says.
> >
> >