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the Curmudgeon

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Mar 7, 2007, 12:50:47 PM3/7/07
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Jayne Kulikauskas <jayne.ku...@gmail.com> wrote in
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> On Sun, 05 Nov 2006 21:11:19 +0000, Dustbin wrote:
>
> [...]
>> Moreover, it seems that feminists can go around
>> saying ALL MEN ARE... but we should not. Perhaps
>> this is what you call equality. It is just
>> typical of two-faced females to go around saying
>> all men are this that or something else; then
>> when a man does it you are very quick to jump on
>> him. I didn';t notice any of you jumping on the
>> feminists back in the seventies; eighties or
>> nineties.
> [...]
>
> I am a female and I have been vocally critical of feminism in the last
> few years as I have become aware with problems with it. When you make
> comments about females having a double standard, being liars, etc. you
> are including me. You are including Erin Pizzey. You are including
> the woman featured in the recent Glen Sacks newsletter who spoke out
> against the travesty created by the domestic abuse industry.
>
> You do not seem to have any recognition of women as individuals. No
> matter how many women say "all men are ...", there are some women like
> me who do not. I am no more responsible for the actions of all women
> than you are responsible for the actions of all men. I do not have a
> double standard about this.
>

Sometimes they seem hard to find in modern day America, but they are out
there - women who don't buy into the party line of feminism. I'm running
into more women nowdays personally who will tell you that they don't go
along with it. My own opinion is that you are beginning to see small
signs of a quiet backlash against it by women, and that is heartening
news for men. Men alone aren't going to be able to overcome this, it's
going to take the help of men-loving women who step up and say "Enough
of this"


the Curmudgeon

Crossbow

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Nov 7, 2007, 1:46:35 AM11/7/07
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it was too much 30 years ago. The responses you as a reasonable woman are
hearing is born from feminist overkill for years, longer than half the
world population has been alive. feminists drop an A bomb to get rid of an
ant hill and men have historically been victims. Anyone who watches daytime
shows like jerry springer must realize that women are not immune from lying,
as sexual harassment laws presume, no less likely to lye than any man. Why
is it assumed the man is not only guilty but not allowed to know he's even
been accused. He looses his job, his family, his reputation simply because
it is assumed the woman would not lye and he would. When is a man's word and
truthfulness going to be considered of equal value to a woman's? men can't
even approach equality until this socual handicap is addressed.
mr_...@peoplepc.com.

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Jayne Kulikauskas

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Nov 19, 2007, 12:27:02 PM11/19/07
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On Tue, 6 Nov 2007 22:46:35 -0800, Crossbow wrote:

> it was too much 30 years ago. The responses you as a reasonable woman are
> hearing is born from feminist overkill for years, longer than half the
> world population has been alive. feminists drop an A bomb to get rid of an
> ant hill and men have historically been victims. Anyone who watches daytime
> shows like jerry springer must realize that women are not immune from lying,
> as sexual harassment laws presume, no less likely to lye than any man. Why
> is it assumed the man is not only guilty but not allowed to know he's even
> been accused. He looses his job, his family, his reputation simply because
> it is assumed the woman would not lye and he would. When is a man's word and
> truthfulness going to be considered of equal value to a woman's? men can't
> even approach equality until this socual handicap is addressed.

I think you are right. One of the biggest obstacles facing men is social
attitudes. I constantly encounter people who do not even acknowledge that
there are many areas in which men are at a disadvantage.

--
Jayne

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