Re: Life threatening Nazi masturbating machines at Auschwitz
It's all a bit strange
news:13mm28f...@corp.supernews.com:
> This is the story of an Australian Jew, named Bernard
> Holstein, who gets tattooed, claims he was an Auschwitz
> survivor, and writes a holocaust novel.
Novel. See. Novel. Do you understand what a NOVEL is?
--
Like Minded Mates
Reading from Mein Kampf
Snuggling by the fire
He shares his deepest thoughts
Holding him close
My Aryan warrior
A warm bath
Then the lights go out
Ben Cramer
Copyright ©2007 Ben Cramer
Richard Warren
"It's all a bit strange" <strangeth...@turkeygoy.com> wrote in
message news:Xns9A0CBABBE7638...@85.214.90.236...
> "Doomsday Cultist" <bardi...@mypacks.net> wrote in
> news:13mm28f...@corp.supernews.com:
>
>> This is the story of an Australian Jew, named Bernard
>> Holstein, who gets tattooed, claims he was an Auschwitz
>> survivor, and writes a holocaust novel.
>
> Novel. See. Novel. Do you understand what a NOVEL is?
Denier scum like Doonesbury only read porn.
Doomdsay Cultist
<strangethingshap...@turkeygoy.com> wrote:
> "Doomsday Cultist" <bardic26...@mypacks.net> wrote innews:13mm28f...@corp.supernews.com:
>
> > This is the story of an Australian Jew, named Bernard
> > Holstein, who gets tattooed, claims he was an Auschwitz
> > survivor, and writes a holocaust novel.
>
> Novel. See. Novel. Do you understand what a NOVEL is?
>
The Sunday Times
Perth, Western Australia, Sunday, October 31, 2004
A fake Auschwitz tattoo
Initially, it was convinced of the authenticity of the memoirs of
Brougham, who sports a tattoo of the number 111404 on the inside of
his left arm, similar to those given to Jews by the Nazis.
Brougham, 69, a mining camp cook, says his story is true -- but
concedes he may never be able to prove it.
"It is true, it did happen," he said, acknowledging he had little to
support his claims and might never convince his detractors that his
death camp experiences were real.
He has no immigration papers, no German birth certificate and no
living witnesses who could verify his arrival in Sydney from a post-
war holding camp in Cyprus.
"All I have is what is in my memory," he said. "But I have got nothing
to hide. This book is an account of what happened in my life.
"I am not a liar, what I have written is true. People might ask
how a boy who was only nine at the time can remember what happened in
so much detail but I can tell you, once you step through the gates
into the barracks at Auschwitz, you instantly grow up. I remember
everything. I still have nightmares about it."
On the strength of the book Brougham was invited to talk to
schoolchildren at the Holocaust Institute in Yokine.
It's all a bit strange
news:8a1e67dc-ca93-470a-9649-593852eb30b0
@r29g2000hsg.googlegr
oups.com:
So which of your two posts is the lie? The first one saying
it was a novel, or the second one that is completely
different.
Quack Quack.
Doomdsay Cultist
>
> > This is the story of an Australian Jew, named Bernard
> > Holstein, who gets tattooed, claims he was an Auschwitz
> > survivor, and writes a holocaust novel.
>
> Novel. See. Novel. Do you understand what a NOVEL is?
>
Publisher Judy Shorrock claims never to have seriously suspected
Holstein of lying, despite a lack of any documentation supporting his
claims.
"When you're in publishing, there has to be an element of trust,"
Shorrock says.
Doomdsay Cultist
<strangethingshap...@turkeygoy.com> wrote:
"On the strength of the book Brougham was invited to talk to
schoolchildren at the Holocaust Institute in Yokine."
See? It doesn't matter how preposterous a "holocaust" story is.
It will believed and accepted without question, until someone
debunks the story. Even then, diehards like you will continue to
milk the story for all it's worth, by attacking those who
debunk the lies.
It's all a bit strange
news:e97f35ae-8ebf-4500-8f0f-
59867e...@x69g2000hsx.googlegr
oups.com:
How does one "lie" in a novel?
It's all a bit strange
a3f3ad...@x69g2000hsx.googlegr
oups.com:
> On Dec 20, 10:27 pm, "It's all a bit strange"
> <strangethingshap...@turkeygoy.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
> "On the strength of the book Brougham was invited to talk
> to schoolchildren at the Holocaust Institute in Yokine."
link?
>
>
> See? It doesn't matter how preposterous a "holocaust" story
> is.
You misspelled novel.
> It will believed and accepted without question, until
> someone debunks the story.
How do you debunk a novel?
> Even then, diehards like you will continue to milk the
> story for all it's worth,
It's you that is milking this story. I've merely pointed out
that in your desire to post denier trash, you didn't read
what you were posting.
> by attacking those who debunk the lies.
It's you that's attacking me, because I had the audacity to
deonstruct your DOGMA.
Ole Irish
"It's all a bit strange" <strangeth...@turkeygoy.com> wrote in
message news:Xns9A0CBABBE7638...@85.214.90.236...
> news:13mm28f...@corp.supernews.com:
>
>> This is the story of an Australian Jew, named Bernard
>> Holstein, who gets tattooed, claims he was an Auschwitz
>> survivor, and writes a holocaust novel.
>
> Novel. See. Novel. Do you understand what a NOVEL is?
Works by Wiesel and Wilkormirski?
>
> --
> Like Minded Mates
> Reading from Mein Kampf
> Snuggling by the fire
> He shares his deepest thoughts
> Holding him close
> My Aryan warrior
> A warm bath
> Then the lights go out
>
> Ben Cramer
> Copyright ©2007 Ben Cramer
--
Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com
RJ11
"Ben Cramer", posting as "Ole Irish <olei...@home.net>", wrote:
> "It's all a bit strange" <strangeth...@turkeygoy.com> wrote in
> message news:Xns9A0CBABBE7638...@85.214.90.236...
>> Novel. See. Novel. Do you understand what a NOVEL is?
> Works by Wiesel and Wilkormirski?
More like the tales of an Australian neo-Nazi activist who
calls himself "Ben Cramer", and asserts to be a "psychologist"
and "university professor". You know, that unemployable failure
who spends 14 hours a day on the web, and invents an imaginary
life to which he escapes when his miserable existence becomes
too much to bear.
RJ.
Doomdsay Cultist
> "It's all a bit strange" <strangethingshap...@turkeygoy.com> wrote in
> messagenews:Xns9A0CBABBE7638...@85.214.90.236...
>
> > "Doomsday Cultist" <bardic26...@mypacks.net> wrote in
> >news:13mm28f...@corp.supernews.com:
>
> >> This is the story of an Australian Jew, named Bernard
> >> Holstein, who gets tattooed, claims he was an Auschwitz
> >> survivor, and writes a holocaust novel.
>
> > Novel. See. Novel. Do you understand what a NOVEL is?
>
http://www.ajn.com.au/news/news.asp?pgID=219
In his book The Holocaust Industry, Professor Finkelstein argues that
the Holocaust has been repeatedly used to deflect criticism of the
State of Israel, and Jews in general.
The greatest threat to the memory of the Holocaust, he argues, is not
Holocaust denial, but the Jewish exploitation of the tragedy of six
million Jews who were murdered by the Nazis.
"Truth is beside the point for this industry," Professor Finkelstein
told the AJN.
Doomdsay Cultist
> > On Dec 20, 10:27 pm, "It's all a bit strange"
> > <strangethingshap...@turkeygoy.com> wrote:
>
> > "On the strength of the book Brougham was invited to talk
> > to schoolchildren at the Holocaust Institute in Yokine."
>
> link?
Feel free to contact them to verify the article:
http://www.news.com.au/contactus
Holocaust man's claims queried
By CATHERINE MADDEN and JIM KELLY
October 31, 2004
http://www.news.com.au/
A WA author who wrote a book allegedly based on his harrowing life as
a Holocaust survivor is at the centre of a row over his credibility.
UWA Press has pulled copies of Stolen Soul from bookshops after a
private investigator was called in to probe the author's background.
The book, written by Secret Harbour man Bernard Holstein -- whose real
name is Bernard Brougham -- claims to be "the amazing true story of
survival and mateship in Auschwitz".
The publisher describes the book as "an epic read full of stories of
how Bernard underwent experiments, assisted the Underground and even
escaped, only to be recaptured and subjected to even greater torture".
But this week a UWA Press spokeswoman admitted the publishing house
removed the book because of doubts about the author's credibility.
Initially, it was convinced of the authenticity of the memoirs of
Brougham, who sports a tattoo of the number 111404 on the inside of
his left arm, similar to those given to Jews by the Nazis.
Brougham, 69, a mining camp cook, says his story is true -- but
concedes he may never be able to prove it.
"It is true, it did happen," he said, acknowledging he had little to
support his claims and might never convince his detractors that his
death camp experiences were real.
He has no immigration papers, no German birth certificate and no
living witnesses who could verify his arrival in Sydney from a post-
war holding camp in Cyprus.
"All I have is what is in my memory," he said. "But I have got nothing
to hide. This book is an account of what happened in my life.
"I am not a liar, what I have written is true. People might ask how a
boy who was only nine at the time can remember what happened in so
much detail but I can tell you, once you step through the gates into
the barracks at Auschwitz, you instantly grow up. I remember
everything. I still have nightmares about it."
On the strength of the book Brougham was invited to talk to
schoolchildren at the Holocaust Institute in Yokine.
His story was questioned when his NSW foster family called UWA Press
claiming that not only was he not born in Holstein, Germany, as he
said, but he was not Jewish.
By this stage the book had sold out its first print run and Brougham
was already at work on a sequel, revealing how he fled to Australia
after Auschwitz was liberated.
A private investigator employed by UWA Press claims that Brougham was
born in country NSW, baptised a Roman Catholic in 1942, made his
Confirmation in 1952 and even spent time in a seminary training to
become a priest.
Brougham says he was raised as a Catholic in Australia and his step-
parents never discussed his Jewish heritage.
He said he would take a DNA test to prove he was not related to his
five step-siblings in a bid to authenticate his story and convince UWA
Press that it was true.
"I remember that three doctors who were members of the Underground
(resistance fighters) told me that `one or two or three of you boys
are going to get out of this hell hole and you must tell the world
what happened here'," he said.
In the book he claims that a tearful exchange with a German tourist
several years ago convinced him to write his memoirs, which cost him
about $70,000 to have ghost-written and published.
The book has been selling on the Angus & Robertson website for $26.95
and Brougham has made several book-signing appearances.
Publicity for the book said Bernard Holstein "endured two years of
hell" at Auschwitz. Despite his ordeal, "Bernard survived and has now
fulfilled his promise to tell the story the world needs to know.
Stolen Soul is Bernard's story. His memories, his tears, his belief in
the human spirit are all contained within its pages."
Copyright 2004 News Limited. All times AEST (GMT+10).
B'injamin Cr'amer
"Doomdsay Cultist" <bardi...@mypacks.net> wrote in message
news:609958ee-d85a-4b0d...@v4g2000hsf.googlegroups.com...
So many of these "survivor's" books have been proved to be b'ullshit.
Currently reading Frankl's complete and utter crap.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
It's all a bit strange
news:476ba2ec$0$26012$8826...@free.teranews.com:
>
> "It's all a bit strange"
> <strangeth...@turkeygoy.com> wrote in message
> news:Xns9A0CBABBE7638...@85.214.90.236...
>> "Doomsday Cultist" <bardi...@mypacks.net> wrote in
>> news:13mm28f...@corp.supernews.com:
>>
>>> This is the story of an Australian Jew, named Bernard
>>> Holstein, who gets tattooed, claims he was an Auschwitz
>>> survivor, and writes a holocaust novel.
>>
>> Novel. See. Novel. Do you understand what a NOVEL is?
>
> Works by Wiesel and Wilkormirski?
>
Works by Leuchter, Zundel and cramer.
It's all a bit strange
news:0ea133a2-62ce-405a-8a15-3e04bf8875c4
@e6g2000prf.googlegro
ups.com:
> On Dec 21, 7:16 am, "Ole Irish" <oleir...@home.net> wrote:
>> "It's all a bit strange"
>> <strangethingshap...@turkeygoy.com> wrote in
>> messagenews:Xns9A0CBABBE7638TBAnoonecarescom@
85.214.90.236.
>> ..
>>
>> > "Doomsday Cultist" <bardic26...@mypacks.net> wrote in
>> >news:13mm28f...@corp.supernews.com:
>>
>> >> This is the story of an Australian Jew, named Bernard
>> >> Holstein, who gets tattooed, claims he was an Auschwitz
>> >> survivor, and writes a holocaust novel.
>>
>> > Novel. See. Novel. Do you understand what a NOVEL is?
>>
>
>
>
> http://www.ajn.com.au/news/news.asp?pgID=219
>
> In his book The Holocaust Industry, Professor Finkelstein
> argues that the Holocaust has been repeatedly used to
> deflect criticism of the State of Israel, and Jews in
> general.
>
In his posts, herr doctor dunesbury argues that posting
multiple versions of his cut and paste DOGMA inspired posts
will deflect criticism from him for not understanding what a
NOVEL is.
> The greatest threat to the memory of the Holocaust, he
> argues, is not Holocaust denial, but the Jewish
> exploitation of the tragedy of six million Jews who were
> murdered by the Nazis.
The greatest threat to deniers is exploitation by ignorant
deniers.
>
> "Truth is beside the point for this industry," Professor
> Finkelstein told the AJN.
>
>
Truth is beside the point for this industry.
It's all a bit strange
@v4g2000hsf.googlegro
ups.com:
What happened to your original post that called it a NOVEL?
Are you censoring yourself?
It's all a bit strange
news:fkitg9$m54$1...@reader01.news.esat.net:
> Dr. Lippschitz wrote:
>> "Doomsday Cultist" <bardi...@mypacks.net> wrote in
>> message news:13mm28f...@corp.supernews.com...
>>> This is the story of an Australian Jew, named Bernard
>>> Holstein,
>>> who gets tattooed, claims he was an Auschwitz survivor,
>>> and writes a holocaust novel.
>>>
>>> http://www.fpp.co.uk/Auschwitz/docs/fake/WA_SundayTimes_
3
>>> 01004.html
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> The book becomes a best seller. It turns out he never
>>> left
>>> Australia, and the publishing company has to pull all the
>>> books.
>>>
>>> In Stolen Soul Holstein talks about how Nazi
>>> doctors
>>> attempted to prove Aryan superiority by collecting Jewish
>>> semen with masturbating machines that often killed their
>>> subjects.
>>>
>>>
>>> Quote...(page 117)
>>>
>>> But we never gave in, not really; there was that one
>>> time just
>>> before liberation but other than that we were strong. We
>>> would see the boys they put on those masturbating
>>> machines just drop, just die, right there in front
>>> of us. The absolute cruelty was beyond our belief.
>
> Sick bastard. He should be jailed for fraud.
>
>
>
Okay genius, how does one commit fraud in a novel.
hamza...@gmail.com
http://vicmarkettattoo.com/