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Sailing Away

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May 4, 2004, 1:01:25 AM5/4/04
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Does anyone know when the last time the US Navy was involved in a ship to
ship boarding action, attacking or defending?


Mitchell Holman

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May 4, 2004, 1:35:23 AM5/4/04
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"Sailing Away" <No...@NoWhere.tv> wrote in
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> Does anyone know when the last time the US Navy was involved in a ship to
> ship boarding action, attacking or defending?


Capture of the U-505, June 1944

http://www.history.navy.mil/faqs/faq91-1.htm

Mitchell Holman

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May 4, 2004, 6:02:00 PM5/4/04
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peter_k...@MSN.COM (Peter Krynicki) wrote in
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> Mitchell Holman <ta2eene...@comcast.com> wrote in message
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> Wasn't the USS Peublo boarded during the Vietnam-war era?


Forgot about that one, I did. Tho as I recall
there wasn't a lot of attacking or defending. It
was just cornered and escorted into a N Korean port.


Brian Trueman

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May 4, 2004, 8:35:43 PM5/4/04
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I believe there have been boarding actions of merchant vessels in the
Persian Gulf to check for weapons or Al Qaeda members. At least there have
been Canadians doing that and the Americans are more numerous.
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Sailing Away

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May 4, 2004, 9:44:16 PM5/4/04
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I have heard of coast guard vessels doing this to, does anyone know if the
vessels being boarded have resisted navy, coast gurad or Canadian forces?


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Andrew Chaplin

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May 4, 2004, 11:33:16 PM5/4/04
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Sailing Away wrote:
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> I have heard of coast guard vessels doing this to, does anyone know if the
> vessels being boarded have resisted navy, coast gurad or Canadian forces?

The Canadians were just looking for beer.
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Mitchell Holman

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May 5, 2004, 8:18:54 AM5/5/04
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stanlever...@yahoo.com (Stanley L Lock) wrote in
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> "Sailing Away" <No...@NoWhere.tv> wrote in message

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> DEar friends,
>
> The U.S.S. Pubelo in 1976 was the last ship boarded and captured by
> a hostile nation. The Pubelo was totally unarmed except for a
> paymaster's 1911A1 kept in a strongbox for payday use.


A pistol is needed for handing out pay packets?


> The north
> Koreans can sure bully unarmed ships!
> It is rumoured that at least one each (Two star) Air force generals /
> admirals were forced to retire from active service due to the capture
> of the Pubelo.
> Since the October 2000 Attack on the U.S.S. Cole attack and
> remembering the Pubelo Incident, the U.S.Navy has (hopefully) upgraded
> it's shipboard defensive capabilities.


Not to mention the USS Liberty. Assuming firing
back at allies is permitted....


> Since the invasion of Iraq and Afganistan, the U.S. Navy and allies
> have been actively and selectively boarding merchant ships looking for
> supicious cargo or passangers or material used for terrorist
> operations. This has toned down to a degree by both sides. THe
> supicious shipping has pretty well ceased and the boardings have
> decreased.
> When the Navy boards a ship on the high seas, there is usually an
> Armed(misile or machine guns) helicopter and or frigate / destroyer
> standing by ready to take offensive action against anyone so foolish
> as to attempt armed resistance.
> Hisorically speaking this is the one of the major missions that
> Marines of most navies were originally created.
>
> Yours truly,
>
> Stanleverlock
>

Sailing Away

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May 5, 2004, 5:36:46 PM5/5/04
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I've read that the crew of the Liberty was given the order to repel
boarders, but of course the Isrealis never tried to board. It would have
been harder to claim they thought it was a much smaller and older Egyptian
ship if they's been aboard and shooting at American sailors. A weird bit of
history in US Isreali relations.


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> Mitchell Holman <ta2eene...@comcast.com> wrote in message

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> > stanlever...@yahoo.com (Stanley L Lock) wrote in
> >

> > > "Sailing Away" <No...@NoWhere.tv> wrote in message
>

> > >> I have heard of coast guard vessels doing this to, does anyone know
if
> > >> the vessels being boarded have resisted navy, coast gurad or Canadian
> > >> forces?
>
> > >> "Brian Trueman" <batr...@shaw.ca> wrote in message

> ..
> > >> > I believe there have been boarding actions of merchant vessels in
the
> > >> > Persian Gulf to check for weapons or Al Qaeda members. At least
> there have been Canadians doing that and the Americans are more
> numerous.
>
> > >> > "Sailing Away" <No...@NoWhere.tv> wrote in message
>

> > >> > > Does anyone know when the last time the US Navy was involved in a
> > >> > > ship to ship boarding action, attacking or defending?
> > >> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > DEar friends,
> > >
> > > The U.S.S. Pubelo in 1976 was the last ship boarded and captured by
> > > a hostile nation. The Pubelo was totally unarmed except for a
> > > paymaster's 1911A1 kept in a strongbox for payday use.
> >
> >
> > A pistol is needed for handing out pay packets?
>

> Dear friend,
> Since you have never served in the U.S. military,
> when there are any cash disbursements to any member of the crew or
> members of a U.S. military unit, there is always at least one armed
> guard and sometimes two on hand to prevent holdups.


> >
>
> > > Since the October 2000 Attack on the U.S.S. Cole attack and
> > > remembering the Pubelo Incident, the U.S.Navy has (hopefully) upgraded
> > > it's shipboard defensive capabilities.
>
> > Not to mention the USS Liberty. Assuming firing
> > back at allies is permitted....
>

> The Liberty was strafed by a pair of IAF jets during the 1967 war.
> It was never boarded.
> yes, you donot shoot at Allies.
> But what makes you think the Israeli's were Allies of the U.S. in
> 1967?

Andrew Chaplin

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May 5, 2004, 6:50:11 PM5/5/04
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Mitchell Holman wrote:
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> A pistol is needed for handing out pay packets?

Even in the Canadian Forces, a military policeman escorts the pay
officer to and from pay parade, and remains present during the pay
parade. This is rarely seen now, except in operational theatres, as
almost every body is on direct deposit.

Joe Osman

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May 6, 2004, 12:57:13 PM5/6/04
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"Sailing Away" <No...@NoWhere.tv> wrote in message
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> Does anyone know when the last time the US Navy was involved in a ship to
> ship boarding action, attacking or defending?
>
>
The SS Mayaguez was boarded from the USS Harold E. Holt by 48 US Marines of
the 1st Battalion, 4th Marines on May 15, 1975 after the USAF had dropped
tear gas on the Mayaguez. After they secured the ship, sailors from the USS
Duluth and MSC mariners from the USNS Greenville Victory got the ship going.
See

http://www.usmm.org/mayaguez.html

Joe


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Sailing Away

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May 7, 2004, 6:42:53 PM5/7/04
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Wow, I'd never heard of this. Thanks, it's exactly the kind of thing I was
looking for.


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