CLIPS ??
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call magizines clips . These are two different animals and the terms are
not interchangable. A magizine is usually a spring loaded device which
feeds ammo into a weapon ,with few exceptions a clip is usually a device
which holds ammo being fed into a magizne.Some weapons havean internal
magizne which is loaded by use of a clip .
To the best of my knowledge the M1 rifle was loaded using a device
called an en-bloc clip which held 8 rounds of 30-06 ammo. the whole unit
was fed into the rifle . When the rifle was fired . the en-bloc was
ejected with the last spent casing.
Just had to put my $.02 worth in
Bill
9timedreports
yes not to nitpick, it's refreshing to see someone else who notices this. I
have been correcting my gun buddies(who are history buffs as well) on this for
many moons. Brought about in times when the media spews forth so much
mis-information about firearms.
>with few exceptions a clip is usually a device
>which holds ammo being fed into a magazine
yes a clip is used for loading a magazine of a weapon, and without the clip the
weapon's magazine would not function. The Garand is a prime example of a clip
loaded weapon.
What about the SKS with it's "stripper clip" or the Lee Enfield rifle? They use
what is properly known as a "charger", to load the magazine of the weapon. But
it does not stay inside the weapon or aid in it's function. A clip and charger
are usually similarily constructed to hold their rounds, the difference is
whether it remains in the weapon or not.
V-Man
>called an en-bloc clip which held 8 rounds of 30-06 ammo. the whole unit
>was fed into the rifle . When the rifle was fired . the en-bloc was
>ejected with the last spent casing.
This is correct and the reason that an entire generation of Americans either
got into the habit of saying clip or, by exampole to their sons, got them to
say clip as well. Over 5 million M-1 Garand rifles were made, and MANY, well
over 500,000 were sold to soldiers at war's end or thru the civilian
marksmanship program since then.
HDLin...@aol.com is stupid. *He* said so.
HD also supports McCarthy-ism and the suppression of free speech.
Lech K. Lesiak
On 14 Dec 1999, 9timedreports wrote:
> What about the SKS with it's "stripper clip" or the Lee Enfield rifle? They use
> what is properly known as a "charger", to load the magazine of the weapon. But
> it does not stay inside the weapon or aid in it's function. A clip and charger
> are usually similarily constructed to hold their rounds, the difference is
> whether it remains in the weapon or not.
The Lee Enfield No 4 Rifle was still in use in the RCAF in the early 60's
when I joined. Never heard the clip referred to as a 'charger'. Maybe
terminology varied by nation.
Cheers,
Lech
Donald Phillipson
>
>> What about the SKS with it's "stripper clip" or the Lee Enfield rifle? They use
>> what is properly known as a "charger", to load the magazine of the weapon. But
"Lech K. Lesiak" (lkle...@calcna.ab.ca) writes:
> The Lee Enfield No 4 Rifle was still in use in the RCAF in the early 60's
> when I joined. Never heard the clip referred to as a 'charger'. Maybe
> terminology varied by nation.
British terminology for the Lee-Enfield is that the "clip"
holds the bullets and the "charger" is the shaped bridge over
the rifle breech which positions the clip correctly to
reload the magazine.
Lee-Enfield magazines are reloaded from the top, across an
opened breech. Reloading is fast, because you push five
rounds (their rims alternating) through the
clip straight down into the magazine (and then a 2nd clip
for maximum 10 rounds.) The charger guides the clip to
allow this to take place.
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| Carlsbad Springs, Ottawa, Canada |
9timedreports
>holds the bullets and the "charger" is the shaped bridge over
>the rifle breech which positions the clip correctly to
>reload the magazine
the shaped bridge you refer to is known in Enfield nomenclature as the
"charger bridge" or "charger guide". It acts to hold or steady the charger
as
the rounds are forced downwards into the magazine. Again, not to nitpick,
but a
clip enters the magazine, a charger does not.