Dirlewanger and Kaminski

Zhivan

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May 22, 1998, 3:00:00 AM5/22/98

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I'm all mixed up about the two criminal SS-Brigades, Dirlewanger and
Kaminski. Were both involved in the Warsaw uprising ? Which one disbanded,
and which one was surrounded and massacred by the Reds in 45 ? They're very
similar units and I'd appreciate any information on them..

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Lee Russell

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May 23, 1998, 3:00:00 AM5/23/98

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>I'm all mixed up about the two criminal SS-Brigades, Dirlewanger and
>Kaminski. Were both involved in the Warsaw uprising ?

Yes.

>Which one disbanded, and which one was surrounded and massacred by the >Reds in 45 ?

Dirlewanger's Brigade was supposed to be a penal unit supplemented by
poachers but ended up being filled in with common criminals. This unit
broke down in combat and ended up in looting and disorder. It was
disbanded and Oskar Dirlewanger was shot, as I recall.

Kaminsky's unit, wearing the "RONA" (Russian Army of Liberation) patches
to which they were not entitled, committed a variety of atrocities, but
not sufficient for them to be disbanded. They were simply an ineffective
unit. They were destroyed in combat in 1945,

Jerzy Pankiewicz

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May 23, 1998, 3:00:00 AM5/23/98

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In soc.history.war.world-war-ii Zhivan <rus...@ihug.co.nz> wrote:
: I'm all mixed up about the two criminal SS-Brigades, Dirlewanger and
: Kaminski.

Kaminski was killed by Germans in 1944. His unit was called RONA.
It commited crimes slaughtering civilians during the Warsaw
uprising of 1944.

Jerzy Pankiewicz

Witold Lojkowski

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May 25, 1998, 3:00:00 AM5/25/98

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Lee Russell wrote:
>
> >I'm all mixed up about the two criminal SS-Brigades, Dirlewanger and

Kamniski after the Warsaw insurrection ,where his troops were not beaten
in cruelty by any other, was shot to the order of Himler and the rests
of his unit were incorporated in the Wlasow army.
This incorporation is described as follows:
The rests of the troop reinforced the first division of General
Buniaczenko (600 Division of Panzer Grenadiers - not sure about correct
name translation) in the Wlasow army.
"From the wagons dumped a group of salvages, partly without weapons and
in various uniforms, with woman carrying jewelry. The officers could be
distinguished from soldiers by the number of watches: three to five.."

Quoted from Anders' "The defeat of Hitler in Russia 1941-45", source:
Thorvald Jurgen, "Wen Sie Verdeben Wollen, Berricht des Grossen
Verrats", Steingruben Verlag, Stuttgart 1952.

Witold Lojkowski

Gregory Deych

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May 27, 1998, 3:00:00 AM5/27/98

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I have not read too much about Dirlewanger, but I do remember that
Kaminsky was the one that was executed by the SS for being a little
too good at his own job. Apparently, after Warsaw, he was getting out
of control and was ambushed, with his death staged as partisan action
or something like that.

On 22 May 1998 10:46:35 -0400, Zhivan <rus...@ihug.co.nz> wrote:

>I'm all mixed up about the two criminal SS-Brigades, Dirlewanger and

>Kaminski. Were both involved in the Warsaw uprising ? Which one disbanded,

>and which one was surrounded and massacred by the Reds in 45 ? They're very
>similar units and I'd appreciate any information on them..
>
><scratches his head>

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Jerzy Pankiewicz

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May 28, 1998, 3:00:00 AM5/28/98

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In soc.history.war.world-war-ii Drazen Kramaric <dkraNOS...@www.zap.hr> wrote:
: partisans in central Russia. Its commander was Bronislav Kaminski (was
: he a Byelorussian?).
Kaminski was half-Polish, half-Ukrainian, born in Poland. He was called also
Mieczyslaw.

Jerzy Pankiewicz