German Luger, what calibre?
B. Green
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"B. Green" <tobg...@home.com> wrote:
> What is the caliber of the officer's handgun known as a 'German
> Luger'?
The miliarty model is 9 mm -- known as 9 mm Luger or 9 mm
Parabellum. The Luger was also made for sale to civilians
7.62 mm (.30") and .22 long rifle rimfire.
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>What is the caliber of the officer's handgun known
as a 'German Luger'?
9mm. The German Pistole P 08 originated in 1893, and
was first produced for use in the Swiss army in 7.65mm
caliber.
When the German army adopted it, they changed the
caliber to 9mm, and developed the "Parabellum" round
for it.
The 9mm Parabellum was one of the most effective
pistol rounds ever, and was used in many other
weapons, including the Walther P38 (Germany's
replacement for the Luger) and the Browning GP 35
(used by Germany, Nationalist China, and Britain).
It was also the most common round used in submachine
guns: the German MP18, MP28, MP34/35, and MP38/40
all fired the Parabellum, also the British Sten,
Italian Beretta, and US Marlin UD M'42.
Even the US M3 'grease gun' came in a version
for the Parabellum. (The Sten, the M3, and the
Marlin were supplied to Resistance forces, and
so needed to fire captured ammunition.)
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REstey9690
also know as 9 x19mm. The original Luger
(1900) was chambered for the 7.65 round (the Swiss used it in the original
caliber).
The 9mm round made it appearence in 1902 , the German Navy adopted the Luger
in 9mm in 1904. The German army adopted the Luger in 1908 (hence name P08).
David Constable
David
"B. Green" <tobg...@home.com> wrote in message
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> What is the caliber of the officer's handgun known as a 'German Luger'?
Tanker 06
9x19mm ("9mm Parabellum") is the
most common found. Also in 7.65mm.
Later copies made in .22 Long Rifle by
a copycat company after the war.
There was an enlarged version made
in .45 ACP for trials by the U.S. Army,
but the Colt 1911 won out.
IIRC, the .45 ACP model is one of
the most valuable collectors model to be
had. Not sure how many were ever made
for the trials, or what ultimately happened
to them.
Jerry
Thomas Hessler
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>What is the caliber of the officer's handgun known as a 'German Luger'?
Not necaissairly an officer's weapon. In the Waffen-SS, carrying a personal
handgun was something of a habit. About the Luger, I assume you refer to the
9mm P 08 Luger. The P 38 Walter was more modern in fact. There had been some
accidents with the Luger, so from 1938 on the Walther was set in production.
It was cheaper to manufacture also. Oberführer Heinrich Gartner, head of the
Waffen-SS Procurement Office, tried unsuccesfully to divert all Walther
production to the Waffen-SS. The 9mm Luger automatic pistol, together with
the 9mm Mauser, represent the fine quality of German arms.
Andrew Chaplin
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> What is the caliber of the officer's handgun known as a 'German Luger'?
The proper designation for the service pistol commonly attributed to
Georg Luger is 9mm Parabellum-Pistole Modell 1908 or P08, and it was
manufactured in 9mm x 19 (the current NATO standard for sidearms) by
Deutsche Waffen- und Munitionsfabrik, Königlich Gewehrfabrik Erfurt,
Simson & Cie, Mauser-Werke AG, and Heinrich Krieghoff Waffenwerk. Some
were even made Vickers-Armstrong in the 1920s.
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Green) wrote:
> What is the caliber of the officer's handgun known as a 'German
> Luger'?
It came in more than one calibre. The original was 7.65mm. When accepted
by the German army in 1908 a 9mm version was selected.
Ken Young
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William Black
Thomas Hessler <panze...@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:8sfcso$i826
> Not necaissairly an officer's weapon. In the Waffen-SS, carrying a
personal
> handgun was something of a habit.
I always thought that the SS and other party rubbish tended to the use of
9mm short (known in the USA as .380) because the pistols looked cool, In
action (where the .380 is worse than useless) they also used a lot of
Browning High Power in 9mm after they took Belgium (where it was made)
<snip>
. The 9mm Luger automatic pistol, together with
> the 9mm Mauser, represent the fine quality of German arms.
I hope not, the model '08 I shot with had a lousy trigger and was the
fussiest feeding 9mm I ever shot, and I used to shoot one of those ghastly
S&W aluminium frame 8 shot things in the 'seventies.
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Bill
>What is the caliber of the officer's handgun known as a 'German Luger'?
>Tks.
9mm and 7.65 mm, but 3 were made for testing by the US Army in .45 caliber.
If I recall right, there is only 1 of those left in existence.
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: B. Green heeft geschreven in bericht
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:>What is the caliber of the officer's handgun known as a 'German Luger'?
: Not necaissairly an officer's weapon. In the Waffen-SS, carrying a personal
: handgun was something of a habit. About the Luger, I assume you refer to the
Not to mention that I've seen a number of pictures of MG crew
with pistols. These were Wehrmacht rather than SS IIRC.
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Nick Cooper
>On 15 Oct 2000 18:34:51 GMT, "B. Green" <tobg...@home.com> wrote:
>
>>What is the caliber of the officer's handgun known as a 'German Luger'?
>>Tks.
>
>9mm and 7.65 mm, but 3 were made for testing by the US Army in .45 caliber.
>If I recall right, there is only 1 of those left in existence.
Was it the case that only three .45 varients were made, or that US
Army were merely supplied supplied with three examples for avaluation
purposes. The sequel to the original sequenl to the 'Death Wish' book
(not the film) revolves around someone using a .45 calibre Luger, and
I've always wondered just how rare they were/are.
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after cocking, to have about a eight of an inch of play? Or is it just a
case of old age?
Rich Cervenka
>Does anyone know if it's normal for the Luger's action, either
>before or after cocking, to have about a eight of an inch of play?
> Or is it just a case of old age?
>
That's normal.
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Robert Oliver
nick....@virgin.net says...
Armory for evaluation in 1907. After initial tests the
Army attempted to purchase 200 more of the .45 Lugers.
Luger turned down the order.
It's believed that one of the guns was destroyed during
its testing. IIRC the other is in a private collection,
though it might be in a museum.
I'm quoting this information from memory. If you're in the
US and get the History Channel, check your listings for
a show called "Tales of the Gun". Specifically the episodes
"Million Dollar Guns" and "The Luger".
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Stoeger arms & sporting goods company in NYC. IIRC a couple hundred were
made/imported.