No.
The earliest records are English and go back to just after the
Restoration in 1660.
--
William Black
"Any number under six"
The answer given by Englishman Richard Peeke when asked by the Duke of
Medina Sidonia how many Spanish sword and buckler men he could beat
single handed with a quarterstaff.
Not the Zulus ... please ....
T
--
Count Baldoni
In hoc signo vinces
They are and always have been in league with the Devil and they will
not rest until they have their own man in The Vatican as Pope.
they will abolish the Mass as well Baldoni.
This will happen when the Roman Empire has been revived and they will
have an antichrist in power at the heart of the empire. He will make a
peace treaty with Israel and promise them the protection of the Roman
EUmpire but in reality he will be working behind the scenes to bring on
Armageddon because blood is what they need. Christ warned us to flee to
the mountains when we see Jerusalem surrounded by the armies of the
Gentiles. I am waiting for the day when that fucker Blair leads his
cavalry across the Mediterranean to the Holy Land and then I'm hitting
the high road for Connemara with My laptop and mobile braodband and I
won't be back for 1290 days. God speed!!!
"From the time that the daily sacrifice shall be taken away, and the
abomination that maketh desolate set up, there shall be a thousand two
hundred and ninety days." The Prophet Daniel
How the hell in the name of the sweet baby Jesus did they let that man
into the Holy Mother Church. It requires him to recant his past sins
and yet here the bugger is about to become President of the Great
Satan, the EU. I hope our Russian, Ethiopian and Indian allies are
good for the fight Pope.
Pope I must get back to you in time regarding my concern for Arab
Christians who are having a bad time of things at present, in
particular at the hands of the Israelis, Iraqis and Egyptians.
Remember how he took Communion even though he wasn't a Catholic Baldoni?
And remember how Judas dipped his bread in the dish while secretly
conspiring to have Christ arrested and murdered?
Well there's your answer.
But they haven't reckoned on a resurgent Russia, as you say.
BIG mistake. Big big big mistake.
hehehehe
> Pope I must get back to you in time regarding my concern for Arab
> Christians who are having a bad time of things at present, in particular
> at the hands of the Israelis, Iraqis and Egyptians.
I have been watching it very closely Myself Baldoni and I noted with
horror how all those Catholics were crucified in Sudan last month
although funnily enough I couldn't find anything about it on the BBC and
in the Guardian
Unfortunately, they may already have.
--
"You must conceal all the crimes of your brother Masons... and should
you be summoned as a witness against a brother Mason be always sure to
shield him. It may be perjury to do this, it is true, but you're keeping
your obligations."
Ronayne, "Handbook of Masonry" p. 183
> Baldoni wrote:
>> sandy dollar brought next idea :
>>
>>> Do the Masons go back to Ancient history and what part did
>>> they play in those days of long ago? Do they have the same role in
>>> Modern times? I found out there were Masons that were in our moon
>>> mission. Anyone care to share what they know about the FreeMasons.
>>> Sandy
>>> Dollar
>>
>>
>> They are and always have been in league with the Devil and they will
>> not rest until they have their own man in The Vatican as Pope.
>>
>>
>
> Unfortunately, they may already have.
Calling for a *true* world political authority to deal justly with
pressing issues of global concern is not quite the same as calling for a
New World Order. Pope Benedict's call was for a limited and beneficent
global authority; those who seek a New World Order on the other hand seek
to overturn the entire Christian order on which Europe and the West were
founded and to replace it with a wholly atheist-materialist and even anti-
Christian ideology that will extend to the very way you trim your toe
nails.
There is a world of difference. The Pope is responding to the crisis; the
Freemasons created it.
There is no way this Pope or any Pope is on the dark side, although it
wouldn't surprise me in the least if the Masons had infiltrated the
Catholic Church right up to the highest level excluding Peter. Christ has
guaranteed that Hell itself will not prevail against the See of Peter and
even when the Masons achieve their ultimate goal, which is to have their
man enthroned in Rome, the true Church with a legitimate Pope will just
go underground as she did in the earliest days when the antichrist Nero
ruled Rome.
Benedict quote:
"To manage the global economy; to revive economies hit by the crisis; to
avoid any deterioration of the present crisis and the greater imbalances
that would result; to bring about integral and timely disarmament, food
security and peace; to guarantee the protection of the environment and to
regulate migration: for all this, there is urgent need of a true world
political authority, as my predecessor Blessed John XXIII indicated some
years ago"
If you believe 10% of what you post you are indeed a sick man
Yes, i.e. a one world government and a global currency, an electronic
dictatorship enslaving us all. That is the NWO agenda and no good will
come of it.
Sorry if I sound cynical Pope, but the vatican contains Freemasons who
have access to the Pope and who have influence. I'm not saying the
Pope's a freemason but are his policies all his own work? I doubt it.
http://www.freemasonrywatch.org/satanic_brotherhood.html
<snigger>
You may need a packed lunch as well, unless you have enough excess body
fat to last that long.
Ho hum.
Uhm, where you been?
John XXIII was a mason. His reforms threatened the
conservatives and the college elected that
16th century throwback Paul VI. It was Paul
and his reactionary policies that caused me
to disengage from the RCChurch. If Roncalli's
dream of a church based on human principles
instead of the rule of lies and guilt had
succeeded, I might still be a Catholic.
BTW, I can't see what this topic has with
football teams in the UK, so I snipped those
cross-posts.
Baldoni has seen how other posters have got themselves some attention using
trolling of the Masons and has now decided to join that merry throng.
How pitiful
all that link does is provide evidence of Masonic infiltration in the C
of E - hardly surprising? The paragraph regarding Catholic membership is
inaccurate by the way - it remains forbidden for a Catholic to join the
masons full stop. Anyone who tells you otherwise is most likely a Mason
himself and thus a liar.
Those Catholic clergy who have joined the Masons are *by default*
excommunicated, and their orders are thus invalidated.
A Cardinal or Bishop who joins the Masons does not speak for the Church.
Canon Law is clear that the penalty incurred by a Catholic joining the
Masons is *AUTOMATIC* excommunication at that instant - sentence is
passed and penalty imposed at the moment the offence is committed. There
is no need for a Church tribunal to deliver its verdict.
Thus it matters not what these so-called clergy do in the name of the
Church, because they are invalid, although of course, hiding their evil
deeds, nobody is to know this.
Not at all Rogers it is something I have read about and indeed as a
Catholic have been warned about by teachers and priests and the
Archbishop himself. It is however something that is being brought into
the open and I thought I could help the OP out with some information
regarding this subject with the help of Pope, Liam and PMD.
> Diablos Rojos used his keyboard to write :
>> Baldoni has seen how other posters have got themselves some attention
>> using trolling of the Masons and has now decided to join that merry
>> throng.
>>
>
> Not at all Rogers it is something I have read about and indeed as a
> Catholic have been warned about by teachers and priests and the
> Archbishop himself.
splutter!!!
<+|80)
> This will happen when the Roman Empire has been revived and they will
> have an antichrist in power at the heart of the empire. He will make a
> peace treaty with Israel and promise them the protection of the Roman
> EUmpire
Nostradamus lives!
the overhead compartment in My van is stuffed with tuna, dried fruit,
bottled water, batteries, muesli, bandages, sun-dried tomatoes, condensed
milk, a transistor radio, an all-weather reversible mac, brown rice and
one packet of Mister Kipling's French Fancies. I can be down there in 2
hours 45 minutes and completely self-sufficient before sundown.
Forgive me but the reason I included the football NG's was because
several of the fellows there have many differing views regarding
Freemasonry. One is indeed a mason and the others oppose him. They
discuss freemasonry more than they discuss football. I conceed there
are a couple of nailed on conspiracy theorists.
John XXIII would have been automatically excommunicated for becoming a
Mason.
Not true mate, not any more:
http://www.catholicnewsagency.com/new.php?n=4581
And, read some of the outrageous comments from Catholic Masons here...
>
> Those Catholic clergy who have joined the Masons are *by default*
> excommunicated, and their orders are thus invalidated.
The Catholic Priest in the article above is a Freemason. Why has he not
been excommunicated?
> A Cardinal or Bishop who joins the Masons does not speak for the Church.
> Canon Law is clear that the penalty incurred by a Catholic joining the
> Masons is *AUTOMATIC* excommunication at that instant - sentence is
> passed and penalty imposed at the moment the offence is committed.
Yes - "Canon 2335 of the 1917 Code of Canon Law". So why is the priest
allowed to deliver communion to his Italian parish?
There
> is no need for a Church tribunal to deliver its verdict.
>
> Thus it matters not what these so-called clergy do in the name of the
> Church, because they are invalid, although of course, hiding their evil
> deeds, nobody is to know this.
So this invalid priest is allowed to say Mass on Sunday or not? What's
the Vatican saying about this?
Btw, I'm not at all happy about this either.
Did Jesus proclaim that?
Surreyman
> Did Jesus proclaim that?
Not that I know of.
Then again he didn't say anything about carpet-bombing civilians either.
Probably because he left it up to his Church, the Catholic Church, to
make these judgements.
I'm *speechless* that you accept the word of a Mason or Masons.
Do you understand that it has always been their diabolical wish to
infiltrate the enemy?????????????????????????????? It is the first law of
warfare forfuxake!
DO NOT BE TAKEN IN BY THEIR OVERTURES OF PEACE
<+|80(((((
Don't misunderstand me fella, there _are_ RC masons within the Vatican,
whether we like it or not.
Apologies for the time taken to reply. I am on catchup at the moment.
--
"Entire units of the Metropolitan Police and the Flying Squad and the
drug squad were Freemasons. They all, in the end, were sent to prison.
When you are bonded by an oath of mutual defence and loyalty, you may
well find that it is extremely difficult to squeal on your corrupt brethren"
Martin Short on BBC Newsnight 19/03/01
> Pope Pompous XVIII wrote:
> > On Thu, 22 Oct 2009 18:36:28 +0100, Protein Mutant Database wrote:
> >
> > I'm *speechless* that you accept the word of a Mason or Masons.
> >
> > Do you understand that it has always been their diabolical wish to
> > infiltrate the enemy?????????????????????????????? It is the first law of
> > warfare forfuxake!
> >
> >
> > DO NOT BE TAKEN IN BY THEIR OVERTURES OF PEACE
> >
> >
> > <+|80(((((
>
>
> Don't misunderstand me fella, there _are_ RC masons within the Vatican,
> whether we like it or not.
Infiltration.
If the Catholic Church was not the Church of Christ Satan would not go to such lengths to possess it, as he has been doing through his ministers on earth, the Freemasons.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ANooGJj6Ng8
There's no need to apologise for the delay replying either - I owe you an email for God knows how long!
<+|80)
--
Pope Pompous XVIII
>On Sat, 26 Dec 2009 19:39:13 +0000
>Pakistan Meteorological Department <P...@SIBU.HQ> wrote:
>
>> Pope Pompous XVIII wrote:
>> > On Thu, 22 Oct 2009 18:36:28 +0100, Protein Mutant Database wrote:
>> >
>> > I'm *speechless* that you accept the word of a Mason or Masons.
>> >
>> > Do you understand that it has always been their diabolical wish to
>> > infiltrate the enemy?????????????????????????????? It is the first law of
>> > warfare forfuxake!
>> >
>> >
>> > DO NOT BE TAKEN IN BY THEIR OVERTURES OF PEACE
>> >
>> >
>> > <+|80(((((
>>
>>
>> Don't misunderstand me fella, there _are_ RC masons within the Vatican,
>> whether we like it or not.
>
>
>Infiltration.
>
>If the Catholic Church was not the Church of Christ Satan would not go to such lengths to possess it, as he has been doing through his ministers on earth, the Freemasons.
I am sure that Islamic clerics used the same reasoning when Catholic
crusaders invaded Arab-occupied Israel. The Mormons might certainly
use the same arguement, and know that at least some of the Jehvah's
Witnesses use that line of reasoning to "prove" that their
denomination is the "True Christianity." Christians have been
debating, arguing and fighting over which denomination is the "True
Christianity" since before the Catholic church was established.
>
>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ANooGJj6Ng8
>
Pretty bizarre video. Some guy whose faith in Catholicism is weak
needing to find a scapegoat to blame for the fact that not all
Christians are Catholic. That is sad. Christians whose faith is
strong do not feel threatened by people who disagree with them. This
guy is so fearful that the catholic church is devoid of God's favor
that he desperately looks for someone to blame. He claims that the
Masons are the only ememies of the Catholic church when in fact,
Masonry supports the right of Roman Catholics to be Catholic. He also
seems to have forgotten centuries of conflict between the Roman
Catholic Church and the Greek Orthodox Church, which happened long
before there were Masons.
This guy, while claiming to be Catholic, opposes the wrork of two
Popes who worked on Vatican 2 and may have saved Catholicism from
extinction, especially in developed countries where people have access
to education. While defying the rulings of two Popes (Pope John
XXIII, and Pope Paul VI) who were supported and helped by three men
who would become Popes (Pope John Paul I, Pope John Paul II, and Pope
Benedict XVI), this guy claims that the true Catholic doctrine is that
the Pope is all-powerful and that all power and authority in the
Church and in Christianity is concentrated in the office of the Pope.
maybe he does not know what "irony" is...? I got two thirds of the
way through, and it was obvious that this was just an attempt to
justify bigotry. As usual, he claims to have absolute proof that his
claims are true, but for some unknown reason he cannot reveal any of
this proof. By the time I was finished, I was not sure whether to
laugh at this clown or feel sorry for him.
I am not Catholic, but I have served as guest speaker in three
Catholic churches. The priests were nice guys and none of them
thought that only Catholics can go to heaven. I fully expect to see
Protestant, Catholic, Greek Orthodox and Jewish people in Heaven, and
will not complain if God forgives even more people and grants them
salvation. In my opinion, judging people's souls is God's job, and I
trust Him to do it correctly.