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Peter Jason

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May 16, 2008, 9:28:04 PM5/16/08
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It seems humankind is destined to be ruled by
yesterday's men.

Recently President Bush went to Israel where
he waxed long and loud about America's
unconditional support for this redundant and
unnecessary state, where nearly all of the
world's Jews choose not to live, and since
its imposition has been a thorn in the side
for Arab nations.

Then a few days later he crawls up on his
belly to beg the Saudis for a production
increase in crude oil so as to lower the
American pump price of gasoline.


Jumping jehosephat..!!


tozif...@rediffmail.com

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May 17, 2008, 4:36:10 AM5/17/08
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And a jumping jehosephat he is,but this pro-Israeli policy only
supports his secret efforts for a new world order.
As such the above actions are only expected of him. Lets pray now that
he doesn't use the Myanmar cyclone as a pretext
to establish a new military base at a very strategic location.I laud
the efforts of the Myanmar military to protect its people from such
slavery at all costs.

SolomonW

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May 17, 2008, 4:45:26 AM5/17/08
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In article <g0lcbd$2b9$1...@otis.netspace.net.au>, p...@jostle.com says...
> redundant and
> unnecessary state,
>

There is one Jewish state so it can hardly be call redundant!
What makes a state necessary, is France necessary?

Khagan Khan

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May 18, 2008, 4:09:35 AM5/18/08
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I am unfortunately quite uneducated on the Arab-Israeli conflict.Could
you spare time to convince me that the Israeli occupation of Palestine
is legitimate?

Ray O'Hara

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May 18, 2008, 10:25:01 AM5/18/08
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"Khagan Khan" <tozif...@rediffmail.com> wrote in message
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> I am unfortunately quite uneducated on the Arab-Israeli conflict.Could
> you spare time to convince me that the Israeli occupation of Palestine
> is legitimate?


i take it you mean gaza and the west bank areas.
they fell to israel due to the arabs getting beat in several wars they
themselves have started.
and if gazan and west bank independence was so important why didn't the
arabs create independent states when they controlled those areas?
{1948-67}.
and jordan was created at the same time as israel by the same resolutions.
the fact is the arabs want israel to return to its pre-1948 borders. and
they use the palastinians as a tool towards that end.


Khagan Khan

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May 18, 2008, 11:52:22 AM5/18/08
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On May 18, 7:25 pm, "Ray O'Hara" <mary.palmu...@rcn.com> wrote:

> i take it you mean gaza and the west bank areas.
> they fell to israel due to the arabs getting beat in several wars they
> themselves have started.
> and if gazan and west bank independence was so important why didn't the
> arabs create independent states when they controlled those areas?
> {1948-67}.
> and jordan was created at the same time as israel by the same resolutions.
> the fact is the arabs want israel to return to its pre-1948 borders. and
> they use the palastinians as a tool towards that end.

That clarifies a lot.Either way,I see an important Islamic prophecy
being fulfilled.The prophecy goes on :
Hadith 032:4284, Narated By Thawban : The Prophet (pbuh) said: The
people will soon summon one another to attack you as people when
eating invite others to share their dish. Someone asked: Will that be
because of our small numbers at that time? He replied: No, you will be
numerous at that time: but you will be scum and rubbish like that
carried down by a torrent, and Allah will take fear of you from the
breasts of your enemy and last enervation into your hearts. Someone
asked: What is wahn (enervation). Apostle of Allah (pbuh): He replied:
Love of the world and dislike of death.

J A

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May 18, 2008, 1:22:49 PM5/18/08
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"Peter Jason" <p...@jostle.com> wrote in message
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He also disparaged talking to opponents while, for example, hes been talking
to N Korea while they went ahead with a nuclear program in the face of his
threats; and, of course, we talk to Iran while they proceed with their
nuclear program, and supply militias in Iraq.

And then McCain has mentioned a date by which the US will be done in Iraq,
even though he's condemned the idea of doing that becasue it would aid the
enemy.....


Ray O'Hara

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May 18, 2008, 1:09:26 PM5/18/08
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"J A" <a...@re.com> wrote in message
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>
> "Peter Jason" <p...@jostle.com> wrote in message
> news:g0lcbd$2b9$1...@otis.netspace.net.au...
> > It seems humankind is destined to be ruled by yesterday's men.
> >
> > Recently President Bush went to Israel where he waxed long and loud
about
> > America's unconditional support for this redundant and unnecessary
state,
> > where nearly all of the world's Jews choose not to live, and since its
> > imposition has been a thorn in the side for Arab nations.
> >
> > Then a few days later he crawls up on his belly to beg the Saudis for a
> > production increase in crude oil so as to lower the American pump price
of
> > gasoline.
> >
> >
> > Jumping jehosephat..!!
>
> He also disparaged talking to opponents while, for example, hes been
talking
> to N Korea while they went ahead with a nuclear program in the face of his
> threats; and, of course, we talk to Iran while they proceed with their
> nuclear program, and supply militias in Iraq.
>


not to mention khadafy.


J A

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May 18, 2008, 3:04:23 PM5/18/08
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"Ray O'Hara" <mary.p...@rcn.com> wrote in message
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Thank you - that slipped my mind.

How many people did he murder with that airline bombing, not to mention god
knows how many other terrorist attacks.

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Peter Jason

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May 19, 2008, 1:51:36 AM5/19/08
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"SolomonW" <Solo...@DONTBOTHER.com> wrote in
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If there were as many French living outside
France in proportion to Israeli "expatriate"
Jews, then France would be redundant too.

Why do so few Jews want to live in Israel?


William Black

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May 19, 2008, 6:15:31 AM5/19/08
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"Peter Jason" <p...@jostle.com> wrote in message
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> Why do so few Jews want to live in Israel?

Because they're not from there.


--
William Black


I've seen things you people wouldn't believe.
Barbeques on fire by the chalets past the castle headland
I watched the gift shops glitter in the darkness off the Newborough gate
All these moments will be lost in time, like icecream on the beach
Time for tea.


Peter Jason

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May 19, 2008, 8:06:57 PM5/19/08
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"William Black" <willia...@hotmail.co.uk>
wrote in message
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>
> "Peter Jason" <p...@jostle.com> wrote in
> message
> news:g0r4hf$61e$1...@otis.netspace.net.au...
>
>> Why do so few Jews want to live in Israel?
>
> Because they're not from there.
>

Exactly, and they seem to be *very* happy
about it.


Ray O'Hara

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May 19, 2008, 9:04:32 PM5/19/08
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"J A" <a...@re.com> wrote in message
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> >>
> >> He also disparaged talking to opponents while, for example, hes been
> > talking
> >> to N Korea while they went ahead with a nuclear program in the face of
> >> his
> >> threats; and, of course, we talk to Iran while they proceed with their
> >> nuclear program, and supply militias in Iraq.
> >>
> >
> >
> > not to mention khadafy.
>
> Thank you - that slipped my mind.
>
> How many people did he murder with that airline bombing, not to mention
god
> knows how many other terrorist attacks.
>

more than enough.
he was a friend and aid supplier to the PLO and other "terrorist" groups.


SolomonW

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May 20, 2008, 9:16:16 AM5/20/08
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In article <g0r4hf$61e$1...@otis.netspace.net.au>, p...@jostle.com says...

There are many French "expatriate", my wife is one so by your logic it
makes France redundant!


> Why do so few Jews want to live in Israel?
>

Why do so few French speakers, live in France?

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John Briggs

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May 20, 2008, 11:43:38 AM5/20/08
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Including the IRA.
--
John Briggs


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