The Fragility

[Tiglath]

There has not been any arguing about climate change around here for a while. No need.

Remember 'Independence day'? Those city-size alien ships blocking the sky...

Think of space-ship skeptics on that day, and see by analogy what climate skeptics have today obscuring the havens.

Nice symmetry having Captain Kirk, who in Star Trek inspired people to seek jobs at NASA and Blue Origin, build a rocket, and send Kirk to space.

The 90 year old man came back transformed, trying to grasp at the profundity of what he had just felt. Seeing the Earth's atmosphere apparent fragility was highly emotional. He talks in the hushed sincerity of those who know what's coming.

--

See what happens after decades of people cursing a pox on each other?
Persistent Pandemic. Pox Partout. Nemesis collects.

[Peter Jason]

On Thu, 16 Dec 2021 14:32:35 -0800 (PST), Tiglath <te...@tiglath.net>
wrote:

>There has not been any arguing about climate change around here for a while. No need.

All have been bamboozled by the talk-fest in Scotland.....
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2021_United_Nations_Climate_Change_Conference
.....where the usual crowd gather to sip Champagne, Crotch-grind, hug,
kiss, and waste a lot of time.

In all the extensive above not a scintilla, not a whisper about the
true cause of long-term weather change which is population growth and
consumerism, and the fixation on growth. And getting re-elected.

It's all the Elephant in the Room!

Aprčs moi le déluge

Yeah Man!

[SolomonW]

On Thu, 16 Dec 2021 14:32:35 -0800 (PST), Tiglath wrote:

> There has not been any arguing about climate change around here for a while. No need.

No need but if you want you can start one.

[Tiglath]

Knowing, as I do, what to expect, that would be idle of me.

[SolomonW]

There are many times, I wish in the past you had displayed this wisdom.

[Tiglath]

Yeah, because I was so wrong about climate change, wasn't I, PIGVOMIT?

It's not wisdom, I have better things to do.

[SolomonW]

Indeed.


> PIGVOMIT?

You are an idiot

>
> It's not wisdom, I have better things to do.

Clearly I overestimated your reasoning ability.

[Tiglath]

Excuse moi. Didn't mean to crack the holiday spell or ruffle a pig.

This pandemic is like a war, many don't see it. We didn't give up half way our wars. Companies are closing office access again, and grab on to something because down the tube we go again, into probably another terrible year. I stopped counting, it's like 800K dead now or more, no matter who is president. The virus is beating us because it mutates faster than we can grow philosophically, in the department of personal liberty and actions that potentially harm others in the context of a global pandemic. If a virus was much more lethal than Covid there would be martial law and vaccinations would be mandatory, or placed in quarantine. Covid glides that zone of being lethal yet not inducing general panic. Smooth operator, if you let it.

[Peter Jason]

On Tue, 21 Dec 2021 19:28:15 -0800 (PST), Tiglath <te...@tiglath.net>
wrote:

O Fate! How cruel thy sting!

We have the WRONG plague, that is one that attacks the respiratory
system of old and compromised people.

All when we need the CORRECT plague, that is one to attack the
reproductive system, so reducing the numbers of people on the earth.

Still,we live in hope.

[SolomonW]

On Wed, 22 Dec 2021 15:12:05 +1100, Peter Jason wrote:

> We have the WRONG plague, that is one that attacks the respiratory
> system of old and compromised people.

Why are we not surprised that Tiglath got it wrong again?

[Tiglath]

O Fate! How cruel thy sting! PIGVOMIT!

Yep. PIGVOMIT has the right plague for population reduction... Gross Obesity (GO). Nobody wants to fuck you, unless they have to.

[The Horny Goat]

On Wed, 22 Dec 2021 20:59:35 +1100, SolomonW <Solo...@citi.com>
wrote:

No - he's right - it's the sort of thing that impacts people AFTER
they've had their children.

This is what makes ALS ("Lou Gehrig's disease") so devastating as if a
close family member has it one never knows whether <you're> going to
get it. Years ago I had a girlfriend whose mother had it so she had a
50-50 chance of getting it in the next 15-20 years. Never did find out
what happened to Judy so have no idea if she's suffered or not. Point
is that doesn't normally strike you till after age 40-45 which is
after most people who are going to be parents have had their tykes.

(There are now tests that show whether a particular person has the ALS
mutation or not and of course there are all kinds of 'should I or
shouldn't I take the test?" anxieties. The same is true of hemophilia
and I recently read a report about Tsar Nicholas' family which showed
that only 1 of his daughters was a hemophilia carrier - but she was
the one who had said she wanted a large family. Neither of these tests
was available in 1917 or even 1980 when we broke up)

[SolomonW]

On Wed, 22 Dec 2021 11:50:46 -0800, The Horny Goat wrote:

> I recently read a report about Tsar Nicholas' family which showed
> that only 1 of his daughters was a hemophilia carrier - but she was
> the one who had said she wanted a large family. Neither of these tests
> was available in 1917 or even 1980 when we broke up)

Anastasia was the carrier.

[SolomonW]

On Wed, 22 Dec 2021 08:36:44 -0800 (PST), Tiglath wrote:

> On Wednesday, December 22, 2021 at 4:59:22 AM UTC-5, SolomonW wrote:
>> On Wed, 22 Dec 2021 15:12:05 +1100, Peter Jason wrote:
>>
>>> We have the WRONG plague, that is one that attacks the respiratory
>>> system of old and compromised people.
>> Why are we not surprised that Tiglath got it wrong again?
>
> O Fate! How cruel thy sting!

Only because it is true


> PIGVOMIT!

Fool, fool, fool, but why on earth do you want to broadcast that to the
world?

[Eric Stevens]

On Wed, 22 Dec 2021 20:59:35 +1100, SolomonW <Solo...@citi.com>
wrote:

Because he's talking about something he is incapable of understanding.
:-(
--

Regards,

Eric Stevens

[Tiglath]

Another nonsensical post. Who told the forum that PIGVOMIT is grotesquely overweight? Take a guess.

It's PIGVOMIT!!!

I've never seen him, thank the gods. We have enough pachyderms in America, I need not offend my tired eyes with the down under variety.

To admit to gross obesity is to admit to a terrible personality defect, apart from being Zionist, that is.

With all we know about being a walking Michelin man, and what it does to the health and quality of life, only people incapable of managing a single solitary life, their own, let it happen. Once you become revolting to look at, many of the earthly pleasures disappear from your life, except food. The circle is more than vicious, it's delicious.

Perhaps if he took the croissant out of his mouth to type, the tired readers would have better words to read. His posts never seem written by a Sapiens brain but by a swollen bowel.

The truth hurts, but also liberates. You should thank me.

You are welcome.

[Tiglath]

Also, PIGVOMIT, and other idiots... If you were able to pay closer attention, you would notice that I almost never post in your threads to give you grief, it's only when you post in my threads. I much rather have a thread with only my initial post, than full of replies from the idiots. You know who you are, I know who you are, everybody knows who you are. If you don't like me, post elsewhere, and we'll forever pass each other like two ships in the night.

But you can't, I know, because you think you are clever and can poke me in the eye. Which speaks of your cluelessness and your masochism, because you should know by now that when I have a great big fluffy idiot target in my sights, I just can't let go of the rifle.

Have yourself a little merry christmas too.

PIGVOMIT, don't eat all the stuffing, please. Be nice.

[Tiglath]

Got to tune up that a bit. Plague comes and kills most nice people and leaves the assholes.
We need a targeted plague.

[Tiglath]

The Geocentrist's christmas spirit was short-lived, folks - cannot keep it up till Christmas Day - dangle dangle is his angle.

Never mind.

Hopefully, we'll someday be able to give the Greek alphabet a rest and not have to worry about an omega-variant proving that the world ends with neither bang nor whimper but rather with one last, raspy cough.

Be well.

[William Hyde]

Since one copy of a clotting factor gene is enough, and excess clotting factor is not a good thing,
a process called lyonization will sometimes inactivate one of the genes, or at least reduce it's output.

It is possible that if a woman is a carrier, the inactivated gene will be her good
gene for producing clotting factor. In this case the woman will bruise very
easily, and cuts will heal slowly. So some carriers do show signs of their
genetic problem, but not all. Thus it is possible to do more than speculate on
some cases of historical significance, even when other evidence is unavailable.

William Hyde

[The Horny Goat]

On Fri, 24 Dec 2021 14:51:25 +1100, SolomonW <Solo...@citi.com>
wrote:

Really? Google says it was Maria - and confirms what I've read
elsewhere that only one of the 4 daughters carried the gene (meaning
that had she survived to have children half her sons would have had
hemophilia and half her daugthers would have been carriers)

[SolomonW]

If you have never seen or know me, how do you know if I am overweight?

[SolomonW]

Anastasia was a carrier, as determined by recent DNA testing.

https://online.ucpress.edu/abt/article/75/9/652/18622/Royal-Hemophilia

Maria according to the same test was okay.

[Tiglath]

On Friday, December 24, 2021 at 9:40:39 PM UTC-5, SolomonW wrote:
> On Fri, 24 Dec 2021 07:46:10 -0800 (PST), Tiglath wrote:
>
> > On Thursday, December 23, 2021 at 10:54:38 PM UTC-5, SolomonW wrote:
> >> On Wed, 22 Dec 2021 08:36:44 -0800 (PST), Tiglath wrote:
> >>
> >>> On Wednesday, December 22, 2021 at 4:59:22 AM UTC-5, SolomonW wrote:
> >>>> On Wed, 22 Dec 2021 15:12:05 +1100, Peter Jason wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> We have the WRONG plague, that is one that attacks the respiratory
> >>>>> system of old and compromised people.
> >>>> Why are we not surprised that Tiglath got it wrong again?
> >>>
> >>> O Fate! How cruel thy sting!
> >> Only because it is true
> >>
> >>
> >>> PIGVOMIT!
> >>
> >> Fool, fool, fool, but why on earth do you want to broadcast that to the
> >> world?
> >
> > Another nonsensical post. Who told the forum that PIGVOMIT is grotesquely overweight? Take a guess.
> >
> > It's PIGVOMIT!!!
> >
> > I've never seen him, thank the gods. We have enough pachyderms in America, I need not offend my tired eyes with the down under variety.

> If you have never seen or know me, how do you know if I am overweight?

Don't make me insult you on Xmas PIGVOMIT!

Your answer has been answered before asking. See above if your fat eyelids let you.

None of this would have happened if you and the other one understood simple courtesy. This is a public place and people can post where and when they want, but if someone let's you know that you and your opinions are not welcome, why force yourself on people and keep posting in my threads?

It's you own damn fault. Because you refuse to accept you are not wanted and refuse to act accordingly. It must be terrible to have no manners.

In the street or a park or other public places, you can go and stand anywhere as well, but do you walk right into a group of people talking 'in their own thread' uninvited? Do you? I don't think sane people do that. Why do it here?

Just to annoy me, despite having told you numerous times I want no debate with or or the other one, of any kind. I've had all I want from you both. Fuck off.

But you don't, so that's why PIGVOMIT and the other one continue to be deservedly vilified.

Capisce? Now be polite and fuck off my threads, you are like a plague.

[SolomonW]

On Sat, 25 Dec 2021 10:28:42 -0800 (PST), Tiglath wrote:

> On Friday, December 24, 2021 at 9:40:39 PM UTC-5, SolomonW wrote:
>> On Fri, 24 Dec 2021 07:46:10 -0800 (PST), Tiglath wrote:
>>
>>> On Thursday, December 23, 2021 at 10:54:38 PM UTC-5, SolomonW wrote:
>>>> On Wed, 22 Dec 2021 08:36:44 -0800 (PST), Tiglath wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Wednesday, December 22, 2021 at 4:59:22 AM UTC-5, SolomonW wrote:
>>>>>> On Wed, 22 Dec 2021 15:12:05 +1100, Peter Jason wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> We have the WRONG plague, that is one that attacks the respiratory
>>>>>>> system of old and compromised people.
>>>>>> Why are we not surprised that Tiglath got it wrong again?
>>>>>
>>>>> O Fate! How cruel thy sting!
>>>> Only because it is true
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> PIGVOMIT!
>>>>
>>>> Fool, fool, fool, but why on earth do you want to broadcast that to the
>>>> world?
>>>
>>> Another nonsensical post. Who told the forum that PIGVOMIT is grotesquely overweight? Take a guess.
>>>
>>> It's PIGVOMIT!!!
>>>
>>> I've never seen him, thank the gods. We have enough pachyderms in America, I need not offend my tired eyes with the down under variety.
>

(a)

>> If you have never seen or know me, how do you know if I am overweight?
>
> Don't make me insult you on Xmas PIGVOMIT!
>
> Your answer has been answered before asking. See above if your fat eyelids let you.
>
> None of this would have happened if you and the other one understood simple courtesy. This is a public place and people can post where and when they want, but if someone let's you know that you and your opinions are not welcome, why force yourself on people and keep posting in my threads?
>
> It's you own damn fault. Because you refuse to accept you are not wanted and refuse to act accordingly. It must be terrible to have no manners.
>
> In the street or a park or other public places, you can go and stand anywhere as well, but do you walk right into a group of people talking 'in their own thread' uninvited? Do you? I don't think sane people do that. Why do it here?
>
> Just to annoy me, despite having told you numerous times I want no debate with or or the other one, of any kind. I've had all I want from you both. Fuck off.
>
> But you don't, so that's why PIGVOMIT and the other one continue to be deservedly vilified.
>
> Capisce? Now be polite and fuck off my threads, you are like a plague.

After all this, my question at (a) is not answered. This is a public forum;
you want private use email.

[Peter Jason]

>>
>> All when we need the CORRECT plague, that is one to attack the
>> reproductive system, so reducing the numbers of people on the earth.
>>
>> Still,we live in hope.
>
>Got to tune up that a bit. Plague comes and kills most nice people and leaves the assholes.
>We need a targeted plague.

Yes yes, glad you've seen the light. We could drop a virus bomb on
Cape Town and watch while it works its way North. That way it
sterilizes everyone! That way all the good people elsewhere could
bustle in and build infrastructure, get all the gold, chromium,
platinum, cobalt, diamonds and other necessities without bothering
with politics. Then these's Wall St where, even as we exchange this
prose, Keynesians are wallowing and floundering in their own crap,
trying to do the proper thing but don't know how. Is Alan Greenspan
still at large? Hang him before those brain-dead disciples swallow
more of his rubbish.

[Eric Stevens]

On Sat, 25 Dec 2021 10:28:42 -0800 (PST), Tiglath <te...@tiglath.net>
wrote:

>On Friday, December 24, 2021 at 9:40:39 PM UTC-5, SolomonW wrote:
>> On Fri, 24 Dec 2021 07:46:10 -0800 (PST), Tiglath wrote:
>>
>> > On Thursday, December 23, 2021 at 10:54:38 PM UTC-5, SolomonW wrote:
>> >> On Wed, 22 Dec 2021 08:36:44 -0800 (PST), Tiglath wrote:
>> >>
>> >>> On Wednesday, December 22, 2021 at 4:59:22 AM UTC-5, SolomonW wrote:
>> >>>> On Wed, 22 Dec 2021 15:12:05 +1100, Peter Jason wrote:
>> >>>>
>> >>>>> We have the WRONG plague, that is one that attacks the respiratory
>> >>>>> system of old and compromised people.
>> >>>> Why are we not surprised that Tiglath got it wrong again?
>> >>>
>> >>> O Fate! How cruel thy sting!
>> >> Only because it is true
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>> PIGVOMIT!
>> >>
>> >> Fool, fool, fool, but why on earth do you want to broadcast that to the
>> >> world?
>> >
>> > Another nonsensical post. Who told the forum that PIGVOMIT is grotesquely overweight? Take a guess.
>> >
>> > It's PIGVOMIT!!!
>> >
>> > I've never seen him, thank the gods. We have enough pachyderms in America, I need not offend my tired eyes with the down under variety.
>
>> If you have never seen or know me, how do you know if I am overweight?
>
>Don't make me insult you on Xmas PIGVOMIT!
>
>Your answer has been answered before asking. See above if your fat eyelids let you.
>
>None of this would have happened if you and the other one understood simple courtesy. This is a public place and people can post where and when they want, but if someone let's you know that you and your opinions are not welcome, why force yourself on people and keep posting in my threads?

*You* want to be able to post any old off topic rubbish you like in
the news group of your choosing - and then
YOU WANT TO SELECT WHO OR WHO MAY NOT ANSWER!
What kind of arrogant twerp are you?

>It's you own damn fault. Because you refuse to accept you are not wanted and refuse to act accordingly.

>It must be terrible to have no manners.

You demonstrate that over and over again in your narcissistic posts.
And on top of that, you are deliberately rude and offensive.

>
>In the street or a park or other public places, you can go and stand anywhere as well, but do you walk right into a group of people talking 'in their own thread' uninvited? Do you? I don't think sane people do that. Why do it here?
>
>Just to annoy me, despite having told you numerous times I want no debate with or or the other one, of any kind. I've had all I want from you both. Fuck off.
>
>But you don't, so that's why PIGVOMIT and the other one continue to be deservedly vilified.
>
>Capisce? Now be polite and fuck off my threads, you are like a plague.
>

I have been using news groups for 28 years and I have never
encountered anyone as gratuitously and deliberately nasty as you. The
world (and certainly this news group) would be a better place without
you.
--

Regards,

Eric Stevens

[The Horny Goat]

On Sun, 26 Dec 2021 08:05:12 +1100, SolomonW <Solo...@citi.com>
wrote:

>> Capisce? Now be polite and fuck off my threads, you are like a plague.
>
>After all this, my question at (a) is not answered. This is a public forum;
>you want private use email.

Agreed - and while I have from time to time THOUGHT the f-bomb about
an individual's posting wouldn't dream of actually saying so.....

[Tiglath]

On Saturday, December 25, 2021 at 6:19:48 PM UTC-5, Eric Stevens wrote:
> On Sat, 25 Dec 2021 10:28:42 -0800 (PST), Tiglath <te...@tiglath.net>

> I have been using news groups for 28 years and I have never
> encountered anyone as gratuitously and deliberately nasty as you. The
> world (and certainly this news group) would be a better place without
> you.
> --

Not everything that's legal is polite. You certainly can post in my threads, but should you? Read your paragraph above.

Why do you fail to act accordingly?

Reasons to be cheerful 1, 2, 3: Make your world a better place without me. It's easy. There are no obstacles.

Looks like a good option.

Flattery won't get you anywhere.

I am not your enemy, I just don't like you. You are your enemy because, I'd never see myself going near someone as obnoxious as I must be for you. You are no whipping-boy, you bring yourself here for a guarantee downer. You must know the reasons. It looks beyond irrational, it looks stupid.

Take your own medicine like a man, you are here voluntarily.

Don't like it? Fuck off. Pretty please.

[Tiglath]

It's not about what's permitted. it's about what's polite. Courtesy is the only way to get along with people you disagree with; remove it and you see the result. I'm courteous to most people here, except with very few who don't respond to it. Threads are conversations within a group of people with affinity for a topic, hoping not to waste their time. Good luck with that with guys like the Geocentrist and PIGVOMIT.

Long ago Geocentrist and PIGVOMIT acquired the habit of performing the role of insolent hecklers, AND NOTHING MORE, in my threads; no contribution, nothing to learn and I mean fucking nothing. These are climate denier people with a Zionist morality. I don't really want to talk to loonies as Paul Gans called them. But they are constantly nipping at my heels. They don't mind the verbal abuse in return, and now all of a sudden they do.

Exhibit A is that I respect their threads and never post on topics they start, so our contrary opinions don't ruin their threads. To this day I don't disturb the peace in conversations they initiate, faintly hoping they will reciprocate, but it's their choice not to. It's like some kind of entourage, a pair of flies always stuck to my shit. I repeat, It must be awful to have no manners.

[Tiglath]

Are you blind as well, PIGVOMIT?
I paste from lines above IN YOUR POST:

>> Another nonsensical post. Who told the forum that PIGVOMIT is grotesquely overweight? Take a guess.
>>>
>>> It's PIGVOMIT!!!

You have bad memory too? You need to look after yourself better, man. Look in the archives, the info came from you, the one and only PIGVOMIT. It's too much information, if you ask me. I didn't want to imagine your body, after what you've revealed of your mind.

[Peter Jason]

Don't worry, every Xmas needs its Grinch.

[Eric Stevens]

On Sat, 25 Dec 2021 19:47:50 -0800 (PST), Tiglath <te...@tiglath.net>
wrote:

You have strange ideas about who may and who may not contribute to
threads. In unmderated news groups anyone can contribute to a thread
and nobody can stop them from doing so. The most that can be done is
to ignore them by one means or another. As you are slowly finding out,
having a tantrum doesn't work.
--

Regards,

Eric Stevens

[Tiglath]

This is the tiring part of the Geocentrist. I write, "it's not about what's permitted, it's about what's polite." And he doesn't get it. It's too complicated.

He replies, "You have strange ideas about who may and who may not contribute to threads." Which means he didn't read that 'it's not about what's permitted." Not shocking at all.

He is certainly permitted to write his eternal stupidities, IT IS NOT POLITE TO DO SO AFTER BEING ASKED TO REFRAIN.

Who raised this jerk, I wonder? Wolves would have done a better job.

Therefore, he will continue to post in my threads and I will continue to insult him to my heart's content. That's the only kind of discourse possible with born idiots like Eric Stevens.

I have never learned anything from you, Geocentrist, other than a vivid example to avoid. You are certainly one of the dumbest sons of bitches I've met in my long life. And you are so proud of it... Hilarious.

You have the intellect of a pimple.

The day you disappear for good from SHM, people will drink to that, slimy asshole.

Happy new year.

Yeah.

[Eric Stevens]

On Thu, 30 Dec 2021 12:31:11 -0800 (PST), Tiglath <te...@tiglath.net>
wrote:



----<snip>----

>> >Long ago Geocentrist and PIGVOMIT acquired the habit of performing the role of insolent hecklers, AND NOTHING MORE, in my threads; no contribution, nothing to learn and I mean fucking nothing. These are climate denier people with a Zionist morality. I don't really want to talk to loonies as Paul Gans called them. But they are constantly nipping at my heels. They don't mind the verbal abuse in return, and now all of a sudden they do.
>> >
>> >Exhibit A is that I respect their threads and never post on topics they start, so our contrary opinions don't ruin their threads. To this day I don't disturb the peace in conversations they initiate, faintly hoping they will reciprocate, but it's their choice not to. It's like some kind of entourage, a pair of flies always stuck to my shit. I repeat, It must be awful to have no manners.
>> >
>> >
>> You have strange ideas about who may and who may not contribute to
>> threads. In unmderated news groups anyone can contribute to a thread
>> and nobody can stop them from doing so. The most that can be done is
>> to ignore them by one means or another. As you are slowly finding out,
>> having a tantrum doesn't work.
>> --
>
>This is the tiring part of the Geocentrist. I write, "it's not about what's permitted, it's about what's polite." And he doesn't get it. It's too complicated.

It's not complicated at all, not when you see the solution as never
posting on topics 'they' start.

>
>He replies, "You have strange ideas about who may and who may not contribute to threads." Which means he didn't read that 'it's not about what's permitted." Not shocking at all.
>
>He is certainly permitted to write his eternal stupidities, IT IS NOT POLITE TO DO SO AFTER BEING ASKED TO REFRAIN.

And this is where we came in. You have no power to enforce a
suggestion that someone refrains from posting, whether on your thread
or otherwise.

>
>Who raised this jerk, I wonder? Wolves would have done a better job.
>
>Therefore, he will continue to post in my threads and I will continue to insult him to my heart's content. That's the only kind of discourse possible with born idiots like Eric Stevens.

So you have no 'polite' solution to your problem.
>
>I have never learned anything from you, ...

---< snip> ---
--

Regards,

Eric Stevens

[The Horny Goat]

Well I suppose he COULD killfile *.* which would mean he'd only get to
read messages written by himself .... who presumably he could control
to his heart's content...

[Eric Stevens]

On Sat, 01 Jan 2022 22:50:35 -0800, The Horny Goat <lcr...@home.ca>
wrote:

:-)
--

Regards,

Eric Stevens

[Tiglath]

You are an idiot too? My oh my?

So you idiots think that repeating the same thing I say, that I cannot stop you from posting, proves you right?

YOU are boring.

Hurry up to post on my threads, idiots. You may not have many left.

[Eric Stevens]

On Mon, 3 Jan 2022 12:20:31 -0800 (PST), Tiglath <te...@tiglath.net>
wrote:

>Hurry up to post on my threads, idiots. You may not have many left.

Is that a promise?
--

Regards,

Eric Stevens