rms
> Re: Yes!! Iliad movie coming out !!
> Ok, it stars Brad Pitt
This is a JOKE, right?
If not, what's next, _The Epic of Gilgamesh_ starring Gary Coleman?
D.
Oh, I heard Jean Claude van Damme is going to do Gilgamesh.
Ted.
That was Christopher Lambert.
It wasn't pretty.
--
Gordon
"I have just as much authority as the Pope.
I just don't have as many people who believe it."
With Mr. T as Humbaba. "I pity the fool who attacks my cedars!"
J. Del Col
I was thinking that maybe it was going to be a spoof,
but sadly, looking at the internest movie database (imdb.com),
it doesn't look like it.
Somehow I never pictured someone like Brad Pitt,
when I reading of Achilles, "the greatest hero among the Greeks".
Now if it was the version of Achilles in Shakespeare's "Troilus and Cressida",
that I could see Pitt doing.
JW
Some images of Pitt as Achilles:
http://www.bradpittfan.com/pics/movies/mtro006c.jpg
http://www.bradpittfan.com/pics/movies/mtro006e.jpg
http://www.bradpittfan.com/pics/movies/mtro006j.jpg
Some other stills, of ships basically:
http://www.showbizireland.com/news/june03/05-pitt02.shtml
I know I've seen pictures of some of "Troy"'s walls, somewhere...
The sad thing is that we shall probably all go and see this film anyway :o(
Henry.
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Maybe when it comes out, the company, that made the guy who's
playing "Hector" here, turn into "The Hulk", will have
added a lot of speical effects to make Mr. Pitt look less pouty and GQ?
> The sad thing is that we shall probably all go and see this film anyway
Zeus forbid!
Now if Jennifer Connelly was playing Helen ... maybe.
Chances are, if for whatever reason it turns out to be a decent film,
I'll rent it on DVD.
Since I've pretty much given up going to theaters and watching
movies when they come out.
(I like to be able to eat and drink whatever I want,
and pause the movie whenever I want).
I wonder why they decided to call it "Troy" instead of "The Iliad"?
* shudder *
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> I wonder why they decided to call it "Troy" instead of "The Iliad"?
I presume it isn't a movie of the Iliad but about the Trojan War. Silly
mistake if you ask me. Do no movie-makers read their Aristotle's
Poetics?... unity of plot etc.
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Yes, that would really be sad, because if financially successful, the
studio-oids would probably conclude that Brad Pitt is a great star who
could bankroll any kind of movie, whereas the opposite case would
occasion the murmur that historical epics don't sell, not even Brad
Pitt could save one....
Fourth picture down from the top shows half of a greek ship on the sand
where something blue appears mid-ships.
Could this be early Greek version of the Mercury (Hermes) Ion Drive used to
power NASA's space craft.
You know, it's customary to add smiley faces to jokes on Usenet. Otherwise you
come across as a bit of a crackpot here. :-)
Chris
"Gladiator" did extremely well.
Troy was the name of the central citadel founded by Tros. Ilium was the name
of the new city suburb founded by his son Ilus which surrounded it. The
archaeology confirms the existence of both.
>
> I presume it isn't a movie of the Iliad but about the Trojan War. Silly
> mistake if you ask me. Do no movie-makers read their Aristotle's
> Poetics?... unity of plot etc.
Since there is a wooden horse in the film the story goes on long after the
Iliad finishes. The question is will Hollywood mess around with the plot and
place the death of Achilles after the sack of Troy.
Who plays Odysseus and will there be a sequel ?
Odysseus -Sean Bean
http://us.imdb.com/title/tt0332452/combined
No word on Troy Story 2.
Looks like they've got the story wrong already. Helen was abducted 10 years
before the siege began. 2 years later in 1201 BC was the first gathering at
Aulis when they couldn't find Troy and 8 years after that was the siege.
Hey, if they can't get Jessica Lynch's story right as it was happening, what
hope is there for Helen after 3000 years?
As if anyone really cares.
And, FWIW, Odysseus was always my favourite - Agamemnon never came anywhere
near the Top Ten. How come you chose this name?
Henry.
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> Troy was the name of the central citadel founded by Tros. Ilium was the
name
> of the new city suburb founded by his son Ilus which surrounded it. The
> archaeology confirms the existence of both.
>
Damn, I was hoping for a Musical with Peter Schickele doing the muzak.
Ted
Kurt Vonnegut's from Troy, NY? Perhaps he did the screenplay..
Ted
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> > > S'got to be the 'j' picture
> > > (http://www.bradpittfan.com/pics/movies/mtro006j.jpg) - just as I always
> > > imagined the greatest of the Greek heroes to look. An absolute spitting
> > > image :o)
> >
> > Maybe when it comes out, the company, that made the guy who's
> > playing "Hector" here, turn into "The Hulk", will have
> > added a lot of speical effects to make Mr. Pitt look less pouty and GQ?
But, but, but... Achilles _is_ a pouty brat -- divine and all that,
but definitely pouty and definitely a brat, with some slight degree
of redemption in Book 24 when he receives Priam and actually comes
across as human, in the good sense. Homer _may_ in some sense
celebrate Achilles' good qualities -- but he mostly takes his theme
from Peleiades' hissy fit (aka _me:nis_). That ordinary mortals need
to hunker down when the celebreties go into their ego trips is, IMO,
a pretty obvious subtext...
Thersites, where are you when we need you?
No, but there's already this: http://www.davidspicer.com/paris.htm
I liked Sean Connerys portrayal of him in Time Bandits.
Achilles is supposed to be a 63 year old man when the siege ended. He was
born in the same year as the voyage of the Argo according to Apollodorus and
he had a son of his own Neoptolomaios.
Helen was about 30 years old when she was abducted and at the time she had a
9 year old daughter (so she cant have been younger than 25) so by the end of
the siege she would have been close to 50. But I expect Hollywood will take
no notice of the facts as usual, but then again homer took no notice of the
age of Penelope who was about the same age as Helen and would have been 60
when Odysseus returned, so in all likelihood the suitors in the Odyssey were
really suitors for Odysseus daughter by the same name who has been written
out of the story.
On Mon, 10 Nov 2003, tejas wrote:
> > I wonder why they decided to call it "Troy" instead of "The Iliad"?
>
> Kurt Vonnegut's from Troy, NY? Perhaps he did the screenplay..
Nah, they wanted to capture the Troy Donohue fans.
D. Latane
And when the DVD comes out, they can include bonus items such as ads for Trojans.
J. Del Col