For the honor of scholarship the Thiering Thesis/Pesher should be investigated to be confirmed or rejected
crunch
> On Jan 3, 10:48 am, crunch <pchristain...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>...
> > Point of clarification -
>
> > When Dr. Thiering says "All the world pas hē oikoumenē,
> > has the precise meaning of the Herodian mission
> > organisation, she means it does in Thiering pesher.
>
> Sorry - that whitewashing doesn't cut it. She's using Biblical
> Scritpure as reference and telling us what *she* thinks it means. The
> big problem is - what she's telling us is incorrect. Again, Thiering
> is taking Scripture and forcing it to fit her "pesher" by changing the
> original meanings and intents.
>
> Bad form.
>
> But, I imagine that's why true Biblical scholars and theologians blow
> her off.
I say the entire matter should be revisited by
qualified experts. I am totally dissatisfied with
all attempts by scholars to review Dr. Thiering's
scholarly work for the past quarter century.
Dr. Thiering herself had a notice on her official
website inviting other scholars to examine her
evidence but it has been taken down -
Pesher of Christ
http://www.pesherofchrist.infinitesoulutions.com/
BTW the relevance of my usenet posts to
sci.archaeology is that the Thiering Reconstruction
invites examination of all relevant archaeological
evidence at Qumran and its outposts to see if
there is any conflict.
Peace (after the Quaker fashion),
David Christainsen
Newton, Mass. USA
Sir David
(<<Kelly>>)
> > > When Dr. Thiering says "All the world pas hē oikoumenē,
> > > has the precise meaning of the Herodian mission
> > > organisation, she means it does in Thiering pesher.
> > Sorry - that whitewashing doesn't cut it. She's using Biblical
> > Scritpure as reference and telling us what *she* thinks it means. The
> > big problem is - what she's telling us is incorrect. Again, Thiering
> > is taking Scripture and forcing it to fit her "pesher" by changing the
> > original meanings and intents.
>
> > Bad form.
>
> > But, I imagine that's why true Biblical scholars and theologians blow
> > her off.
> I say the entire matter should be revisited by
> qualified experts.
So what? No one cares what you say.
> I am totally dissatisfied with
> all attempts by scholars to review Dr. Thiering's
> scholarly work for the past quarter century.
So what? No one cares what you think. Not even Barbara Thiering.
> Dr. Thiering herself had a notice on her official
> website inviting other scholars to examine her
> evidence but it has been taken down -
Likely because she knows no one of any repute accepts her theories.
> BTW the relevance of my usenet posts
...is completely non-existent.
crunch
<UNFLUSH>
Grow up, kid.
crunch
> On Jan 3, 12:58 pm, crunch <pchristain...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > > > When Dr. Thiering says "All the world pas hē oikoumenē,
> > > > has the precise meaning of the Herodian mission
> > > > organisation, she means it does in Thiering pesher.
> > > Sorry - that whitewashing doesn't cut it. She's using Biblical
> > > Scritpure as reference and telling us what *she* thinks it means. The
> > > big problem is - what she's telling us is incorrect. Again, Thiering
> > > is taking Scripture and forcing it to fit her "pesher" by changing the
> > > original meanings and intents.
>
> > > Bad form.
>
> > > But, I imagine that's why true Biblical scholars and theologians blow
> > > her off.
> > I say the entire matter should be revisited by
> > qualified experts.
>
> So what? No one cares what you say.
>
> > I am totally dissatisfied with
> > all attempts by scholars to review Dr. Thiering's
> > scholarly work for the past quarter century.
>
> So what? No one cares what you think. Not even Barbara Thiering.
So what? All you give is a massive outpouring
of bunk.
> > Dr. Thiering herself had a notice on her official
> > website inviting other scholars to examine her
> > evidence but it has been taken down -
>
> Likely because she knows no one of any repute accepts her theories.
More libel from Kelly.
> > BTW the relevance of my usenet posts
>
> ...is completely non-existent.
Prove it, if you can. Personally, I think you are
incompetent.
crunch
>
> Likely because she knows no one of any repute accepts her theories.
Essenes
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/qumran_origin/message/2133
Extract -
Concerning my current standing with the scholarly community, these are
my
articles in academic journals and books that were published in 2000
-2003.
"The Date and Order of Scrolls, 40 BCE to 70 CE", in The Dead Sea
Scrolls
Fifty Years After their Discovery 1947-1997, eds L. H. Schiffman, E.
Tov,
J.C. VanderKam, Israel Exploration Society, with the Shrine of the
Book,
Israel Museum, Jerusalem 2000.
"Christianity and Science: Friends at the Beginning" The Educational
Forum.
A Publication of Kappa Delta Pi, International Honor Society in
Education,
Winter 2002, vol 66, no 2, pp. 116-125. (written by invitation)
"Theological Scholar', chapter 10 in M.P.Wolfe and C.R. Pryor, The
Mission
of the Scholar, Peter Lang, New York, 2002.
(written by invitation)
"The Qumran Sundial as an Odometer using Fixed Lengths of Hours", Dead
Sea
Discoveries, 9, 3, 2002, pp. 347-363.
(editors George Brooke, Lawrence Schiffman, James Vanderkam)
"The Copper Scroll: King Herod's Bank Account?", in George J. Brooke
and
Philip R. Davies (eds) Copper Scroll Studies, (Sheffield Academic
Press,
2002).
Sir David
> Essenes
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/qumran_origin/message/2133
>
> Extract <FLUSH>
Now you should wipe your arse.
Sir David
> Grow up, kid.
I see the comedy writers of the Crunchy Comedy Hour are trying out a
new catch phrase, "Grow up, kid." I don't think it will ever be as
funny as past catch phrase "Bogus, get lost," or the classic "Cheap
bigot," but it does give Carl a compulsive phrase to use as a retort
when he knows he has nothing to say. It's another way for Carl to
simultaneously sustain his gibbering and demonstrate that he has lost
a debate.
Sucks to be you, Carl!
Peter Alaca
Like: "On the contrary"
George
>
Don't you mean the crunchy comedy minute?
And it takes two to debate.
The crunchy thing doesn't debate.
It pretends to be the arbiter of truth.
crunch
Bogus bunk here by George.
Further, let's have a REAL DEBATE over
Thiering Thesis/Pesher. Let the games begin.
Peter Alaca
No, because this is sci.archaeology.
Fuck off
crunch
Yes, because this is sci.archaeology.
Go fly a kite.
Sir David
> > Don't you mean the crunchy comedy minute?
> > And it takes two to debate.
> > The crunchy thing doesn't debate.
> > It pretends to be the arbiter of truth.
>
> Bogus bunk here by George.
"Bogus" and "bunk", two Crunchy catch words for the price of none!
> Further, let's have a REAL DEBATE over
> Thiering Thesis/Pesher.
No. Nobody wants to have a debate. Not even you. All you want is to
ride your hobbyhorse, telling everyone to read some useless crap and
explain it to you. Sucks to be you
> Let the games begin.
More proof that Carl DOES ride his hobbyhorse. As for "the games," you
lost long ago. Sucks to be you.
George
> On Jan 4, 3:04 pm, George <gbl...@hnpl.net> wrote:
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> > On Jan 5, 3:38 am, Sir David <sirda...@mailinator.com> wrote:
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> > > On Jan 4, 9:09 am, Carl <pchristain...@yahoo.com> recited:
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> > > > Grow up, kid.
> > > I see the comedy writers of the Crunchy Comedy Hour are trying out a
> > > new catch phrase, "Grow up, kid." I don't think it will ever be as
> > > funny as past catch phrase "Bogus, get lost," or the classic "Cheap
> > > bigot," but it does give Carl a compulsive phrase to use as a retort
> > > when he knows he has nothing to say. It's another way for Carl to
> > > simultaneously sustain his gibbering and demonstrate that he has lost
> > > a debate.
>
> > Don't you mean the crunchy comedy minute?
> > And it takes two to debate.
> > The crunchy thing doesn't debate.
> > It pretends to be the arbiter of truth.
> Bogus bunk here by George.
>
Wow. Two new words....
Is there no beginning to his abilities?