SolomonW wrote:
> reader wrote:
> > There were no humans in the americas 52k years ago. A case can be made for
> > maybe 20k. Humans were clealy in the americas some 16k years ago by the
> > strong evidence from archaeology.
> The earliest possible dating is about 23,000 to 21,000 years ago, but it's
> an outlier. Even the discoverers have stated that although they cannot find
> an error, this dating looks to old.
There's been numerous claims of older finds but they're all problematic. Take this
one for example:
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/jul/22/stone-tools-chiquihuite-cave-mexico-humans-north-america
"bayesian age model"
I'll translate that one for you: "Make make shit up."
Don't believe me? They used ""bayesian modeling" to date Naledi, the so called
Homo Naledi human ancestor, and came up with an age of 900,000 years... only
off by 300% compared to later dating.
"Only 300% you say? WOW, that's accurate!"
For another thing there's precious little context. I mean, human tools -- stone tools --
fall into specific types or "Technologies." Where do these fall? And even the
30,000+ year old dates they name are well after so called "Modern" humans were
around. So when they say "Humans" do they mean "Modern humans" or do they
mean some flavor of erector and/or Denisovan? And whatever the case, are these
"Humans" ancestral to anyone alive in the Americas today?
So we don't really know. We have to wait & see. I personally believe that humans
starting arriving here just as soon as nothing was stopping them, and that may
have been 100,000 years ago for all I know, but I am not swayed by any of the
evidence so far. Most just seems like bullshit piled atop more bullshit.
...you don't get grant money "Studying" things they already know.
That is one powerful incentive for publishing hyperbole.
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