How Thiering pesher may eventually be integrated into mainstream scholarship
crunch
> crunch <pchristain...@yahoo.com> wrote innews:6c719a11-5b27-4133...@p28g2000vbi.googlegr
> oups.com:
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> > Unfortunately, she does not supply these specifics
> > of her pesher in these sources and I daresay anywhere
> > else in her publications/Internet articles.
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> Isn't that the crux of the probem with her work? She doesn't
> supply the pesher that makes all of her transfiguration of
> scripture work, does she? That's a huge problem.
The problem can be overcome by the determined and
competent scholar by contacting Dr. Thiering and tapping
into her brain. So, she would supply the backup in close
detail over an extended period of instruction to make up for
whatever deficiency in the published literature as to exactly
how Thiering pesher works. Yet, OTOH Dr. Thiering says -
Learning about the Calendar
http://www.pesherofchrist.infinitesoulutions.com/index_Calendar.html
"Introduction
This unit is intended for people who enjoy doing some quite hard
mathematical work. It aims to take them step by step through the
basics of calendar and chronology, on which so much in the pesher
depends. Once these basics have been understood and mastered, it will
be much easier to see why such detail on dates and times can be given,
and how the times affected every aspect of the history.The student who
has become familiar with this material and has learned some Greek
should be able to find for herself or himself the pesher of passages
in the gospels and Acts."
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Also, there is -
official Thiering website
Index ordered by Word for Word Verse
http://www.pesherofchrist.infinitesoulutions.com/index_WFW_verse.html
> My special centrohermitian transfiguration matrix is
> equally valid as as her pesher as a means of transfiguring
> scripture as long as I don't explain or have to show
> others how it works to arrive at my answers.
Bogus thinking on your part; I highly recommend that
you examine her official website ENOUGH so that you
yourself realize that your charge of arbitrariness has no
foundation for her presented scholarship. IOW do the
necessary work yourself of getting into the nitty-gritty; I
am not going to do it for you. Last, I am not saying by
any means that her methodology is immune from informed
criticism.
> Does she ever explicity explain how her pesher
> transfiguration machine works such that other people can
> follow it? I don't think so, but I could be wrong. If not,
> her work is simply not scientifc, because the method of
> science is based on testable hypotheses that reliably produce
> a result.
This charge in the world of scholarship or on the Internet
NEVER goes away. It turns out that the numerous articles
that she wrote on my former Yahoo Forum for explicit
explanation of her pesher are classic. There is your first
place to start, should your curiosity be stimulated by now.
Do check the Index of her articles there for it.
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David Christainsen
(<<Kelly>>)
> Thiering pesher may eventually be integrated into mainstream scholarship as an example of what *not* to do with your education by becoming a laughingstock amongst bona-fide theologians and scholars.
Yeah...I believe that.
;-)
Sir David
> On Nov 10, 2:38 pm, jocko <jo...@invalid.net> wrote:
> > > Unfortunately, she does not supply these specifics
> > > of her pesher in these sources and I daresay anywhere
> > > else in her publications/Internet articles.
>
> > Isn't that the crux of the probem with her work? She doesn't
> > supply the pesher that makes all of her transfiguration of
> > scripture work, does she? That's a huge problem.
>
> The problem can be overcome by the determined and
> competent scholar by contacting Dr. Thiering and tapping
> into her brain.
What a load of crap. All the dreck you link to and paste that's from
her own website and that yahoo group that you destroyed show no
science, just speculation and a lot of handwaving about the actual
techniqes. A determined and competent would never have to "tap into
her brain." Competent cholars have found nothing of interest in her
work, and in her later "pesher" ideas, they've found nothing even
remotely warranting scholarly interest. And you've done (and continue
to do) enormous damage to her reputation. A Google search about
Thiering can turn into the Crunchy Comity Hour. No wonder she doesn't
want you to ever have anything to do with her again. If a determined
and competent scholar contacted her, and told her it was because you
suggested it, she'd be changing her phone numbers and applying for
another restraining order. Unsuccessful lately in your own stalking,
you're trying to get others to stalk her.
Like you, she carefully vets her questions, effectively refusing to
answer because a question isn't properly "scholarly." That's probably
where you learned the dodge, but you're a lot clumsier and obvious
about it than she is. She doesn't have the answers, and neither do
you. The reason you can never answer simple questions is that you
don't have answers. The transparent and pathetic charade of blaming
that on the questioners has worn out long ago. Thiering doesn't go on
public forums any more. A dodge like that can brush off a few
embarassing questions for a short while, but it's never going to be a
tactic you can use several times a day, for years. Your attempt to
drag it on for years, and your promises to keep it up forever, have
made you a laughingstock. When you follow that dodge with instructions
for the questioner to go do the research, well, that pretty much seals
the proof that you just don't have the answer. In your years of
assault by hobbyhorse, you've proven one thing more than anything
else: you simply don't have the answers. Begging for more questions to
run away from is just more Crunchy Comity.
> So, she would supply the backup in close
> detail over an extended period of instruction to make up for
> whatever deficiency in the published literature as to exactly
> how Thiering pesher works.
No she wouldn't.
> Yet, OTOH Dr. Thiering says -
But nobody cares what she says. Haven't you been paying attention?
> Also, there is -
> official Thiering website
But nobody cares what's on her website. Haven't you been paying
attention?
> Index ordered by Word for Word
But nobody cares what's in the index. Nobody will read the index.
Haven't you been paying attention? Read the index yourself.
> > My special centrohermitian transfiguration matrix is
> > equally valid as as her pesher as a means of transfiguring
> > scripture as long as I don't explain or have to show
> > others how it works to arrive at my answers.
Why yes, it is a rather resplendent transfiguration matrix, and the
scholarly background is much nicer than that of any of the Crunchy
transfiguration matrices.
> Bogus thinking on your part; I highly recommend that
> you examine her official website
But nobody has any interest in examining her website. Haven't you been
paying attention? Your incantion of "bogus thinking on your part" is
just another random ritual insult generated by the familiar Crunchy
random ritual insult generation algorithm.
> IOW do the
> necessary work yourself of getting into the nitty-gritty; I
> am not going to do it for you.
Nobody has any interest in doing your work for you. You're like a
prosecutor who opens his case by telling the jury that the defendant
is guilty, and telling the jurors that they have to do all the
detective work and find all the evidence; then he rests. As the judge
dismisses the case, releases the defendant, and cites the prosecutor
for contempt, you call the jurors cheap bigots.
> It turns out that the numerous articles
> that she wrote on my former Yahoo Forum for explicit
> explanation of her pesher are classic.
But nobody has any interest in reading the forum that you destroyed.
Especially not numerous articles. Haven't you been paying attention?
> There is your first
> place to start, should your curiosity be stimulated by now.
> Do check the Index
But nobody cares about the index. Nobody will start there, or anywhere
else. Haven't you been paying attention?
If you want Thiering's ideas to be studied, then study them. Nobody
else is going to study them for you, and your constant demands that
other people study them are picking away at her last threads of
academic respectability. Go study. You're the only one that has to
study, because you're the only one who gives a fuck. The rest of the
world is not going to do the work for you. When some random person
shows up and shows a little interest, you're always ready with the
hobbyhorse cavalry to bead the interest out of them and drive them
away.
Matt Giwer
The pain should be moving up your arm now.
--
If computers had a sense of irony they would be genies.
-- The Iron Webmaster, 4192
http://www.giwersworld.org/holo2/ a11
Sun Nov 15 09:26:39 EST 2009
crunch
Your thinking is consistently disordered.
Sir David
> Your thinking is consistently disordered.
Nice non-sequitur insult from the random Crunchy non-sequitur insult
generator.