Also, once the actual photographing and transcription is done and we have
obtained a map or official layout from the dept. of public works, I was
thinking the data could be put onto a set of cd's and a searchable index be
created. Any other ideas?? -- I guess this is a question for the
gen-methods newsgroup, huh.
Just wanted to post this because I am still VERY MUCH interested in
conducting a cemetery documentation project and haven't heard much from
anyone else interested. Anyone living on St. Thomas or know someone here
who is interested in genealogy and would like to assist? The cemeteries are
rather large and the project would move a lot faster if a group of us could
tackle sections at a time.
Anyone else taking the ball on this one on their native islands? Any other
Caribbean gen. related projects going on?
(Beretta -- you said there was someone here that might be interested, let me
know or tell that person to contact me.)
Monie
I'm still interested in a project to document Western Cemetery in St.
Thomas, VI by transcribing and photographing grave sites. The
condition of the cemetery has deteriorated from when I was a child.
Again, I think is important to document what is there before more is
lost, and as an aid to eventually towards cleaning and restoring.
I had only a few people respond to the initial idea... not sure what to
make of that, but I suspect there should be some more interest in this
since it is the largest cemetery on the island.
There would be inherent difficulties to this project- the cemetery is
very 'congested' which would make photographing some gravestones near
impossible. I have personally done 'climbing and maneuvering' in this
cemetery, so I know it would be a chore. Also a lot of sites are
overgrown with brush. Many sites don't have a marker, or the stone
can't be read.
Once entered into computer, an index can be easily prepared from a
transcription. I'd like to see something posted on the web in a
similar fashion to the Danish Cemetery in the Hospital Ground area of
St. Thomas. see the site below.
http://www.dkconsulateusvi.com/HDC/index.html
Also, the information could be burned to CD, and copies could be made
available for various libraries.
I'd like to hear from anyone interested in this project, even if it is
just to say that you'd like to see it done. Who else out there is
interested in this project?
Dante
St. Thomas Surnames; Beretta, Dinzey, Fontana, Hurtzig, Martis, McBean
St. Croix Surnames; McBean, Michaels
On Monday, September 8, 2003, at 07:49 AM,
CARIBBEAN...@rootsweb.com wrote:
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> Subject: Western Cemetery, St. Thomas
I'm anxious to get started. I'm heading back again this weekend. I guess
I'll just start out with about 10-20 at a time. My digital camera doesn't
hold more than that and I only have one card (need to get another one). The
way I see it is that "we" the ones who are interested don't START it never
will be done. Sometimes it just takes someone(s) showing interest.
Soooooo, that said, I called DPW this afternoon. I was busy most of today,
and it was only minutes to 4 when I got a chance to call 1. for the names
*wink - haven't forgotten, just really busy* and 2. to ask how I could
obtain some sort of map, layout or records of the layout of the cemetery and
an explanation of the type of burial records the department keeps, the
burial process and how they decide who's buried where, just some general
information etc. I guess they close before four because no one answered but
I'll try again tomorrow. I know the office of Vital Statistics here closes
at three so maybe they close around that time too. I'll call earlier. The
last time I called, it was in the morning, come to think of it.
And Beretta, I'm guessing at this one, but it is always baffling to us
genehunters why EVERYONE is not enthusiastic about genealogy. I guess this
is one of those cases.
STILL LOOKING FOR PEOPLE TO VOLUNTEER. There are a lot of folks living off
island that are interested, sadly can't find any here. I will try the
sources you suggested Beretta and see if any of the people at those
organizations can suggest people interested.
m~
"Beretta" <dc...@meltel.net> wrote in message
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I have found an Elizabeth Hassell listed in the Catholic Death records as
dying in Sept 1854.. This could be the correct one but it does not further
identify her or her husband... she was 50 years old and born on St. Thomas..
I know that you have been to Western Cemetery.. would you remember if you
have seen two graves covered in Shells.. They would be for a James Anthony
Hassell and a Rebecca Hassell... ?
Henry N. Hassell
17251 Ingram Lane
Amelia, VA 23002
USA
(804)561-3060
K4LMY
Yes, Regjerings Gade (Danish name for 'street') is still in existence. It
is one of the older parts of the Savan community. My grandfather, great
grandmother and her children lived there as a boy. There are some row homes
still there; his was torn down and an empty lot stands where his house used
to be. I have found them listed on that same street in the 1930 census. If
you are looking at the 1860 census, that is the Danish census taken. I have
never seen those. I have only just gotten through searching the 1930 St.
Thomas island alone MANUALLY. It was "fun!" But like I said, that street
is one of the older areas of Savan. It is not kept up much today at all, as
sadly is the case for many areas in that neighborhood.
I don't know if you are familiar with this, but a fellow subscriber to this
list, Dante Berretta, has been dedicated to trying to get some form of
cemetery documentation project going here on St. Thomas. I have volunteered
for this effort, but if you have ever been to the cemetery, you know it is a
huge task for one person to take on. Much of the cemetery is overgrown with
thick bush and nests of bees. To read some of the plaques towards the back
end, you must do some skillful maneuvering (while trying not to feel guilty
for "disturbing" someone's place of rest). Also, some of the graves are
worn by weather and storms and are illegible. There are also some large
plaques placed up against the wall nearest to the street and some of the
writing is not legible. (On a personal note, I think it is dangerous how
those large slabs of concrete are standing there not secured to the wall or
anything else for that matter.) I have covered most of the Western Cemetery
I, but not for documentation purposes -- I was searching for family members
who I knew were buried there and I had no date of death/birth for them
(hoped their tombstone could provide some clarification). I do remember
seeing some Hassell's but the first names I did not record. I've only
glimpsed around #2 (one of my great grandmothers is buried there) and have
not made it to #3 yet. As an aside, I noticed a lot of the French
(Quetels/Questels) buried in WC #1. The Hassell families that are here on
St. Thomas are primarily of French descent. I am interested in the family
too as they appear frequently in my search for my
French line, a small family known as Zingue (many variations of spelling).
I am not deterred by the condition of the cemetery, just would like to note
that it would take a LOT more time if one person is doing it. I have not
been there in two weeks (my schedule is crazy). I will more than likely be
back in there very soon as I have some time off coming up. I'll be back in
WC #1 (with my camera this time) and will start at the beginning and move
up. I plan to share what I find - which will include any Hassell's found.
(How, not determined yet... need to confer with Beretta. I can make Web
sites so if this is the medium decided this is no problem.) There is an
excellent example of what can and should be done:
http://www.dkconsulateusvi.com/HDC/index.html (This is the Danish Burial
Ground, located at what is locally referred to as 'Round the Field).
Beretta has spearheaded this USVI Cemetery project; I am a foot soldier if
you must ;-). I know we are both anxious to get it up and running.
I know brick walls are frustrating - I have a few myself. If I find
anything I'll let you know. Good Luck!
Monie
""Henry N. Hassell"" <hhas...@tds.net> wrote in message
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Hall
Schulterbrandts & Whites
Millin
deGraff
Swan
Schneider
Rothschild Francis
Harris
Donovan
Sebastien
Microfilm No: T626-2668, Page 150A
Recorded April 13, 1930
Line 10
Interesting that this is where Rothschild Francis Lived, very near the
Market Square huh. Do you know why they named it after him? Also the
Schneider's...some old names there, the Millin, Schulterbrandts, Whites,
Swan, Harris... all still here.
Monie
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By the way, my great grandfather Morris Potter and my great grandmother
Casilda George lived at 24-B Regjerings Gade on April 19, 1930 (date
according to census enumerator). They were family number 245 (one of six
families living in that row home). My grandfather tells me where that house
once stood is an empty lot now. According to the 1930 Census, the addresses
go as such:
22 Regjerings Gade
24 Regjerings Gade (two families)
26 Regjerings Gade (six families)
27 Regjerings Gade (seems as if four families lived there, etc.)
This is on page 150A of Microfilm No: T626-2668 --------1930 Census. I
don't have the 1800's census.
Monie
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