A list of plantations and owners in Jamaica?

[Red...@aol.com]

I was wondering if there is a list of plantations and owners in Jamaica,
either online or hard copy? Any help would be appreciated.

Thanks in advance,
Cindy

[Haroon Chishti]

Cindy-

The best site on the web is http://jamaicanfamilysearch.com

Regards,
Haroon Chishti

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[Red...@aol.com]

Thank you for the responses thus far. On the website that Haroon suggested I
have found mention of both of the families that I am interested in,
MONCRIEFFE and WILSON.
In the list that Edward attached, I have found WILSONs. Now all I have to do
is see if they are connected to my family in any way (I know, famous last
words...lol)

I posted to this list for the very first time back in July, and even though I
have not made any headway in my own research, I have enjoyed this list
greatly.

I should probably post my query again, in hopes that someone new to this list
has anything that would help. The following is the only information that I
have.

Arthur E. MONCRIEFFE married to Jane E. WILSON
children:
Agnes W. MONCRIEFFE--dob:? (at some point I know she had a daughter by the
name of Cynthia, for whom I am named, who died in her teens)
Elva May MONCRIEFFE--dob: June 18, 1903 (she is my grandmother)
My mother has told me that in her records it lists BWI as her birth place,
and in other documents Jamaica has been mentioned.
I realize this is not a lot to go on, but as of the moment it is all I have.

Thank you again,
Cindy

[Chris Codrington]

For what century? For what decade? Just as in our own time, ownership was
dynamic and things were changing. There is no 1 "List" but there are various
records, and the Jamaica Almanacs(semi-reliable) which you can consult
Cod

[Panton]

cindy
As you are looking for such recent dates why don't you look at the birth and
death registers for Jamaica vs plantation records for the 1700's. I doubt those
1700 and early 1800 records will me of much help as there would be a huge gap
between those and your grandmother born 1903. Other than a coincidence of the
same name there would be no way to show any people you found with those name were
connected to you.

Moncreiffe by the way is a moderately common Jamaican name as is Wilson

These B and D registers start about 1660-early 1700's and go to the recent past./
I would suggest you start looking at 1903 for all parishes in Jamaica and go
backwards confirming great grandparents, gg etc. If you grandmother was from Ja
you will find her listed in these government records

Check your white pages phone book for the closest 'Church of Jesus Christ of the
Later Day Saints' give them a call and find out where their closest l;ibrary is
located. The LDS has microfilmed all the Ja records

Hope that helps you

[DPaige]

Hi Cindy,

I have an aunt who lives in Jamaica who was a Moncrieffe she is now an
English... Her name is Camen and she has a sister whose name is Hildred (now
living in the states)...

I suspect that they were born somewhere in the early 1930's, I believe from
St. Ann's parish.....

More to what you might be looking for...
I also know of a book that discusses the Moncrieffe's a bit..

Between Black and White:
Race, Politics, and the Free Coloreds in Jamaica,
1792-1865
Gad J. Heuman
Greenwood Press; Westport, CT
ISBN 0-313-20984-7 copyright 1981

Moncrieffe, Benjamin, p77
...privileged status included the Moncrieffes, a family that had applied for
special rights under slavery and had already been welcomed in white society
before abolition. Benjamin Moncrieffe was so closedly identified with the
whites that he served as treasurer of the St. Ann's Colonial Church Union.
Peter Moncrieffe, who was probably Benjamin's son served as a judge and as a
member of the Assembly during the 1840's....

Moncrieffe, Peter, p61, 77, 145

The pages listed give a little more information along this line... I hope
some of this is of help.
Debbie

[Marcie Mason]

I have a map of plantations I copied from PRO but hav enot had a chance to
transcribe it yet

<Red...@aol.com> wrote in message news:31.c40951...@aol.com...

[Ann Cox]

I would also be interested in getting a copy of this...if possible.

Thanks,
Ann

Marcie Mason wrote:

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[Bat...@aol.com]

Hi
What is the name of the plantation or owners you are seeking? I may be of
help.
Regards,
Barrington

[Ann Cox]

I am looking for any plantation owners in the parish of St. Ann's by the name
of Cox.

Thanks, again.
Ann

Bat...@aol.com wrote:

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[Jeffrey Lombard]

I am also searching for information on a plantation in St Lucia that was
owned by Felix Bonnet. I do not know the name of the plantation. Thank
you,
Karen

[Carolyn Chalmers]

Hi Barrington

I read your email re plantation owners in Jamaica.

Would you be please check for any mention of the name of Martineau or
Ronalds as a plantation owner?
The names I am seeking are:
Peter Martineau
Francis Martineau
Hugh Martineau
Mary Ann Martineau

thanks
Carolyn

[Panton]

Barrington
If you have time could you check for-

#1 BOWDEN or BODDEN or BAWDEN or BODIN at any location in Jamaica
#2 Name of owner, executor or any other names in reference to NORWICH estate
in Portland
thanks Rhona

[VivandTony]

Hi
I'm lookinng for all the plantations owned by the HAYNES family.
Many Thanks
Tony H-L

Bat...@aol.com wrote:

> Hi

[Marilyn Nelligan]

> At 09:57 28/11/2000 EST, you wrote:
> >Hi
> >What is the name of the plantation or owners you are seeking? I may be of
> >help.
> >Regards,
> >Barrington

Hi Barrington
I realize you are being avalanched with requests. I will gladly pay you for
your time to
look up within your resources any reference to the surnames listed in the
Subject line.
Until 2 weeks ago I have only researched Scottish records for my DICK family
back to
1761.

Last week at Ancestry.com I found my family tree with an entry of a brother,
previously unknown to me and extending the tree back to 1725-. I was sent a
full entry of information today.
======================================================
1810 JAMES DICK lawful and eldest Son of James Dick and Agnes Brown sailed
from Clyde on board the ship Robert, Capt. Morris for the island of Jamaica
on 26 November 1810 then at the age of 23 years all but two days and landed
safely on 9 January 1811 at Ocho-Rios Bay, Parish of St. Anna, Jamaica.

1818 James Dick, lawful son of James Dick and Agnes Brown died on 10 June
1818, after a long and painful suffering from Rheumatism the effect of a
sore fever for 18 months. He died in his own house on Ocho-Rios Bay Parish
of St Anns, Jamaica and his mortal remains lie buried in a family burying
ground heights to the south of Ocho-Rios Bay. Aged thirty years six months
and thirteen days, he never married so left no family.
======================================================
A descendant of another sibling researched the family in 1898 in the
Mitchell library in Glasgow.
I have not received all the information that is known of this family as of
yet. The following names have been sent to me thus far.

JAMES DICK1 b 1748 m MARY COOK 17/3/1739 taylor in Cathcart: b 1725
Father JOHN COOK
JAMES DICK2 m AGNES BROWN 30 September 1784 by Mr David Walker Pollockshaws
at Paisley Abbey Renfrewshire Scotland.
Father: ROBERT BROWN
Mother: MARGARET JAMIESON
JAMES DICK3 b Nov 28, 1787 Buchlyvie Stirling d June 10, 1818 Ocho-Rios Bay,
St Anna, Jamaica

Sincerely,
Marilyn Nelligan

[Maurice & Valerie Facey]

Dear Rhona,

What period are you looking for in Jamaica?

Bowden Estates still exist today in the Parish of St Thomas (originally St
Thomas-in-the-East) which is ajacent (on the North) to the Parish of
Portland. Bowden (an estate of many thousand acres) bounds on Port Morant, a
large protected harbour that until recently was used as one of the pricipal
banana export points. Bowden also boasts an important geological area that
has revealed researched fossils from eons ago. St Thomas-in-the-East was one
of the earliest areas settled by both the Spanish (1494-1655) and the
British very soon after they arrived in Jamaica in 1655. There are BODDENs
in the area.

Hope this is of help. Best, Valerie

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- Maurice & Valerie Facey
- The Mill Press
- Jamaica
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>From: Panton <Pan...@telus.net>
>To: CARIB...@rootsweb.com

>Subject: Re: A list of plantations and owners in Jamaica?

>Date: Wed, Nov 29, 2000, 2:28 AM

>
> Barrington
> If you have time could you check for-
>
> #1 BOWDEN or BODDEN or BAWDEN or BODIN at any location in Jamaica
> #2 Name of owner, executor or any other names in reference to NORWICH estate
> in Portland
> thanks Rhona
>

[Maurice & Valerie Facey]

Dear Marilyn Nelligan,

Suggest you contact the following gentleman who is from Edinburgh but spent
many years in Jamaica. Feel free to use our names. We have not been in touch
for a few years so I am not sure if the address still stands. I don't know
if Brian has ever researched his family but if not he should start doing so
now. (Tell him I said so!)

Brian DICK
Noble Growsart Limited
48 Queen Street
Edinburgh EH2 3NR
SCOTLAND

Fax: 031-226-6032

Hope this is of help. Best, Valerie

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- Maurice & Valerie Facey
- The Mill Press
- Jamaica
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>From: "Marilyn Nelligan" <nmar...@iinet.net.au>
>To: CARIB...@rootsweb.com
>Subject: DICK/COOK/BROWN/JAMIESON
>Date: Wed, Nov 29, 2000, 3:40 AM

>
>> At 09:57 28/11/2000 EST, you wrote:
>> >Hi

>> >What is the name of the plantation or owners you are seeking? I may be of
>> >help.
>> >Regards,
>> >Barrington
>

> Hi Barrington
> I realize you are being avalanched with requests. I will gladly pay you for
> your time to look up within your resources any reference to the surnames
listed in the
> Subject line.
> Until 2 weeks ago I have only researched Scottish records for my DICK

familyback to 1761.

[Maurice & Valerie Facey]

Dear Ann Cox,

Have found the following 2 relevant entries in Monumental Inscriptions of
Jamaica.

1. Henry COX, of Content in the Parish of St Ann, d. 3 Nov. 1855 aged 52 (b.
1803)

2. Mrs Sarah COX d. 24 Dec. 1828 aged 84 (b. 1744) [buried in Spanish Town
at the Cathedral of St Catherine: floor slab shared with Thomas WINDE, d. 24
June 1818 aged 44 (b. 1774)]

I am also aware that there was a COX family that until about 1950 lived at a
property called "Woodside" in the Walkerswood/Moneague area of St Ann,
Jamaica ‹- more than likely a descendant of the Henry COX above.

Hope this is of help. Best, Valerie

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- Maurice & Valerie Facey
- The Mill Press
- Jamaica
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>From: Ann Cox <co...@gov.on.ca>

>To: CARIB...@rootsweb.com
>Subject: Re: A list of plantations and owners in Jamaica?

>Date: Tue, Nov 28, 2000, 10:35 AM

>
> I am looking for any plantation owners in the parish of St. Ann's by the name
> of Cox.
>
> Thanks, again.
> Ann
>

[Marilyn Nelligan]

Dear Maurice and Valerie Facey,

Thank you for your email. I had to laugh at what you wish for me to tell
him!

<<I don't know if Brian has ever researched his family but if not he should
start doing so
now. (Tell him I said so!)>>

I will send him a fax now :) Ta. I'll email you if it turns out that we are
related :)
Marilyn Nelligan

[Maurice & Valerie Facey]

Dear Marcie Mason,

If possible, I would also be interested in obtaining a copy of this list.

Many thanks. Best, Valerie

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- Maurice & Valerie Facey
- The Mill Press
- Jamaica
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>From: Ann Cox <co...@gov.on.ca>
>To: CARIB...@rootsweb.com
>Subject: Re: A list of plantations and owners in Jamaica?

>Date: Tue, Nov 28, 2000, 9:19 AM

[Chris Codrington]

Hi Barrington,

Which map, date and surveyor are you referring to as regards the Jamaica map
showing plantations?

For those of you who are new to the subject there were many maps made of the
island of Ja (and most others) over the centuries and starting with the late
17th they began to show either proprietor names or the estate names.

In the earlier part of the Sugar era maps noting proprietor's names were far
more common than those using estate names and part of the reason for this
was that their publication was supported by "subscribers" that is to say in
most cases the proprietor's themselves who wished to have their estates (and
their names!) clearly noted. One reason for this is that the first two
generations of "planters" were literally re-locating themselves to those
back in England..... To whom they had become those who had "gone to the
Americas"
There is some very interesting writing by various second generation Brit
planters after their successful return to Britain which hypersensitively
emphasizes the legitimacy of their "origins", and often struggles to
reassert their connections to established families remaining in Britain.
Apparently the Brit society as a whole tended to view planters abit like
aliens... likely thinking them all of questionable liaisons etc and the
Creole planters were sorely aware of that.(regardless of their family
origins) Of course some did not suffer this because of constant interaction
back and forth to England for Gov or trade purposes, but it was a pretty big
social issue to those who actually lived and bred families on the islands
in the early years.

On Jamaica and several other islands the advent of location by estate name
seems to have become predominant sooner than on some of the other islands,
but in any case there was a shift to estate names in the 18th (approx mid
century)(although names were used prior to that). The most likely reason is
that frankly proprietor names would change over time as estate
consolidation, sales, foreclosure and inheritances complicated and altered
ownership, so using the estate name was the only constant which could serve
as a locator.

Because of that...be forewarned that to really use the maps you need to
study a bunch of them, and that an estate such as for instance "Bowdens"
though it likely started as a proprietor name in 1689 may no longer have
been owned by the Bowdens in 1721..... Antigua is full of examples of this
(over time)(This is only an example)
Using Multiple Sources such as Jamaica Almanacs, vestry rolls, tax rolls,
etc is real important especially if you are not too sure of the target date
for your person or persons.

Despite the tendency to think of plantations as kind of eternal mills on the
landscape of the Carib, they shifted ownership, size, shape, purpose etc
with amazing irregularity and this was increasingly true after 1800 on
Jamaica.

When I try to assess my subject's ownership of Jamaican plantations, I am
bewildered by the amount of shifting around which they did...this relates to
many things but especially to inheritances and claims related to marriage.
To settle these claims, people traded shares in plantations like poker
chips. Part of this relates to the fact that plantations were only worth
what they produced....and their Real appraised value at point of sale was
rarely as high as the assumed value of the estate.... And so it can be real
difficult to nail down the full ownership history of a given plantation
without a TON of deeds, wills, "Givings in" and other records.

Anyway, they are a great tool for finding people, but take care.

There was a collection of such maps of Jamaica published in I believe the
sixties or seventies by the Institute of Jamaica (from their large
collection) which I have not seen, but is often referred to in the footnotes
of serious works on Ja. It is probably in the collections of many US
universities and some State Libraries and might be available for limited use
via interlibrary loan.

I also have two in my own collection, plus the eastern parts of two others.
One of these is on the internet at Historic Antigua and Barbuda. Some other
folks have good ones on the net too, but you may have to ask around(I lost
the address, sorry
Anyway have fun
Cod

[Bat...@aol.com]

Hi List,
In a book called "The Economics of Emancipation Jamaica and Barbados
1823-1843" by Kathleen Mary Butler there is contained many detail narratives
and tables relating to the business transactions of the large plantations and
owners of that time. The book focuses on the effect of compensated
emancipation on colonial credit, slave and land ownership, and the dealings
between owners their families and investors.
Since I got a few more request than I had bargained for I'll respond to each
of you in general until time permits specific lookup and response. Just from
perusing the index the surnames of Dick, Shepherd, Bonnet and Martineau are
not mentioned. Bowden Estate, Haynes Hall Estate, Henry Cox, William Cox, and
Cox Estate are listed.
I hope this helps for now. In any case I recommends this book for all who are
doing Jamaica and Barbados Genres.
Regards,
Barrington

[Bat...@aol.com]

Hi Chris,
Your dissertation is very interesting, but I think you got me mixed up with
another e-mail.
Barrington

[Chris Codrington]

Hi Barrington;

Sorry. I was chasing around the proprietor map thread...did it go direct to
you?
If so sorry bout that.
Cod

C.M. Codrington
Hollywood Beach Resort Realty Inc.
Member: Great Ft. Lauderdale Board of Realtors
Editor: Carib GenWeb "Historic Antigua and Barbuda" web-site
Interested in Southeast Florida Real Estate? Give me a call at 954-735-7395

-----Original Message-----
From: Bat...@aol.com [mailto:Bat...@aol.com]
Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2000 7:06 PM
To: CARIB...@rootsweb.com
Subject: Re: A list of plantations and owners in Jamaica?

[Ann Cox]

Many thanks.

Maurice & Valerie Facey wrote:

> Dear Ann Cox,
>
> Have found the following 2 relevant entries in Monumental Inscriptions of
> Jamaica.
>
> 1. Henry COX, of Content in the Parish of St Ann, d. 3 Nov. 1855 aged 52 (b.
> 1803)
>
> 2. Mrs Sarah COX d. 24 Dec. 1828 aged 84 (b. 1744) [buried in Spanish Town
> at the Cathedral of St Catherine: floor slab shared with Thomas WINDE, d. 24
> June 1818 aged 44 (b. 1774)]
>
> I am also aware that there was a COX family that until about 1950 lived at a
> property called "Woodside" in the Walkerswood/Moneague area of St Ann,
> Jamaica ‹- more than likely a descendant of the Henry COX above.
>

> Hope this is of help. Best, Valerie

>
> ----------------------------------
> - Maurice & Valerie Facey
> - The Mill Press
> - Jamaica
> ----------------------------------
> ----------
> >From: Ann Cox <co...@gov.on.ca>

> >To: CARIB...@rootsweb.com
> >Subject: Re: A list of plantations and owners in Jamaica?

> >Date: Tue, Nov 28, 2000, 10:35 AM
> >
> > I am looking for any plantation owners in the parish of St. Ann's by the name
> > of Cox.
> >
> > Thanks, again.
> > Ann
> >
> > Bat...@aol.com wrote:
> >
> >> Hi
> >> What is the name of the plantation or owners you are seeking? I may be of
> >> help.
> >> Regards,
> >> Barrington

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Toronto, ON M5S 2B1
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[naylor...@gmail.com]

On Tuesday, November 7, 2000 at 3:00:00 AM UTC-5, Red...@aol.com wrote:
> I was wondering if there is a list of plantations and owners in Jamaica,
> either online or hard copy? Any help would be appreciated.
>
> Thanks in advance,
> Cindy

There is a website that list plantations their owners and amount of slaves and the compensations paid out . try Legacies of british slave ownership .ucl dept of history.

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