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Sancho, a Guyanese family , descendants of Ignatius Sancho

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selwyn ross

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May 9, 2002, 2:44:06 PM5/9/02
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I’m trying to seek and obtain assistance in locating
and communicating with all Sancho, but specifically
Lorna, principal of New Amsterdam Technical Institute,
F. Sancho a miller of the Guyana Milling Company, T.
Anson Sancho, Harold Lutchman and Barton Scotland. The
Sancho, a Guyanese family is in the process of
identifying all of it clan. Where ever they can be
found. The Sancho claim to be descended from none
other than the eighteenth century England black man of
Letters and Arts, Ignatius Sancho 1729 -1780. Those
who are Ignatius Sancho, scholars and their academic
community very lightly regard this claim. Here is a
sample – “As to the Sanchos in various places in the
world, I think it very unlikely that any are
descendents of Ignatius Sancho. Most Caribbean
islands were colonized at some point by Spanish
settlers,
and Sancho is a common name in Spain. Best wishes”
Brycchan Carey -


Speaking on the behalf of the Sanchos of Guyana, I
would be grateful to any and all help, you can provide
and or indirectly account for in reuniting the all
Caribbean Sanchos, those of Trinidad with those of
Guyana. There is a need to publicize this claim and
document the story of Sancho. Genealogy, a field of
study in Guyana, is done rather sparingly, I know of
only the Westmaas, Gaskins, St. Kitts of Golden Grove,
East Coast Demerara, and an East Indian Family from
Blairmont, who have their story published on the
information superhighway.
Is there any way the National Archives could be made
available, for researching the Sancho family?
Where are the records of black individuals who arrived
from England in the era of Abolition and
Apprenticeship, kept? Are shipping records available
in Guyana for that era?
The need to retrace the footsteps of the ancestor
Lambert Tuckness Sancho and his brothers, Bentinck and
John Sancho. Are you willing to assist and open doors
for the Sancho family, as they research and document
their story?


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beth wearing

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May 9, 2002, 5:31:01 PM5/9/02
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Hi
I tried to send the following to the list and it was sent back so I am
trying again.

Beth in Toronto

Hi All

Please note that I have re-subscribed under my new mailing address.

I cannot help very much with the family history of Ignatius Sancho, but I
have recently read a book called
"Black writers in Britain 1760 -1890" and there is a section in it on/by
him. I cannot however remember which family details were given. I borrowed
the book from the library system here and the details are Selected and
Introduced by Paul Edwards and David Dabydeen, published by the Edinburgh
University Press 1991.

Apart from the individual stories which are interesting to say the least I
must admit I was rather surprised at the command of English that some of
them had in such a short time after being taken from their homelands. One
has to remember that teaching reading etc was not only not done officially
but was even forbidden in cases. I have also read the autobiography of mary
Seacole an amazing lady who ended up in Balaclava before Florence
Nightingale as far as I can gather. She died in the UK in 1881 and I was
very pleased to be able to find her on the 1881 census. It made her even
more real if you see what I mean.

Happy hunting to the Sancho's.
Beth in Toronto

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Subject: Sancho, a Guyanese family , descendants of Ignatius Sancho


>
> I'm trying to seek and obtain assistance in locating
> and communicating with all Sancho, but specifically
> Lorna, principal of New Amsterdam Technical Institute,
> F. Sancho a miller of the Guyana Milling Company, T.
> Anson Sancho, Harold Lutchman and Barton Scotland. The
> Sancho, a Guyanese family is in the process of
> identifying all of it clan. Where ever they can be
> found. The Sancho claim to be descended from none
> other than the eighteenth century England black man of
> Letters and Arts, Ignatius Sancho 1729 -1780. Those
> who are Ignatius Sancho, scholars and their academic
> community very lightly regard this claim. Here is a

> sample - "As to the Sanchos in various places in the

Richard Bond

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May 9, 2002, 7:14:18 PM5/9/02
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I think that WGBH Boston Channel 2 historian Mario Valdes may have
done some work on him. It is not out of the question that Sancho could
be one of your ancestors. I don't know. Educated blacks sometimes ended
up in administrative or managerial positions in the plantation system.
There were more than brute treatment and slave drivers involved. As much
as a third of the landed Africans died within the first years and anyone
who could ameliorate the mortality of adjutment boosted profits to the
merchants and landowners.

Nevilla E. Ottley

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May 10, 2002, 12:19:12 AM5/10/02
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Was it already established on this list who Ignatius Sancho really was?
I would hate to give info already shared.

Nevilla Ottley

selwyn ross wrote:

>I'm trying to seek and obtain assistance in locating
>and communicating with all Sancho, but specifically
>Lorna, principal of New Amsterdam Technical Institute,
>F. Sancho a miller of the Guyana Milling Company, T.
>Anson Sancho, Harold Lutchman and Barton Scotland. The
>Sancho, a Guyanese family is in the process of
>identifying all of it clan. Where ever they can be
>found. The Sancho claim to be descended from none
>other than the eighteenth century England black man of
>Letters and Arts, Ignatius Sancho 1729 -1780. Those
>who are Ignatius Sancho, scholars and their academic
>community very lightly regard this claim. Here is a

>sample - "As to the Sanchos in various places in the

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Richard Bond

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May 10, 2002, 2:15:11 AM5/10/02
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If you read Brycchan Carey's webpage on Ignatius Sancho it shows his
business card. On the card it says "Sancho's best Trinidad" At the time
Sancho was alive 1739-1780 Trinidad was
an island of Spanish ranchers and French cash crop raiser with many
fewer people tthan many other islands. Were he to have had sons and his
sons apprenticed with his suppliers they would have wound up in the West
Indies.

Richard Bond

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May 10, 2002, 9:07:26 AM5/10/02
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Given this smallness of size in population and economy in Trinidad at
the time it should be easy to identify Sancho's business associates.

Nevilla E. Ottley

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May 10, 2002, 10:48:29 AM5/10/02
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There is a comprehensive article on "Ignatius Sancho (1729-1789),
African Composer in England" by Dr. Josephine Wright, that I read in THE
BLACK PERSPECTIVE IN MUSIC, Fall 1979, Vol. 7, No. 2, pages 123-167.
In it I read:

"Ludwig Gerber appears to have been the earliest musical lexicographer
to discuss Sancho (see Neues historisch-biographisches Lixikon der
Tonkunstler , 1812-1814). Most of the biographical details regarding
Sancho that have come down to us, however, are in a memoir prefixed to
the first edition of the composer's letters, which were published
posthumously in London in 1782 by one Miss F. Crews. According to Miss
Crews, Sancho was born in 1729 abord a slave ship en route from Guinea
to the Caribbean port of Cartagena, now located iin North Columbia,
South America. Orphaned shortly after birth, he was christined Ignatius
by the Bishop of Cartagena. At the age of two, his master tookhim to
England and turned him over to three maiden sisters who resided in
Greenwich. These ladies gave the chld his surname Sancho, deriving it
from the squire in Cervante's play, Don Quixote."

Later it was John, Second Duke of Montagu (1670-1749) an ex-governor of
Jamaica, who was attracted to the "African genius" in the boy. It was
John's habit to educate Africans, so it was not surprising that later,
Ignatius received from the late Duke's wife, Lady Churchill, financial
assistance, he was hired as a butler in their home, and earned enough to
gain his freedom, and in her will she bequeathed the 21-year-old an
outright gift of 70 pounds sterling, and an annuity of an additional 30
pounds sterling, freeing Sancho from financial worries (for a while at
least), and allowing him to pursue his interests in the arts.

His book on the study of Music Theory was dedicated to the Princess
Royal, which was the only child (of the 15) of Queen Charlotte and
George III who detested music. He also had written many piano works
dedicated to "the Right Honorable Miss North" daughter of Lord Frederick
North, prime minister of England during the years 1770-1782. The titles
of the dances obviously refer to important people, places, events, and
things in her everday life, even including her favorite dessert. Of
course he had to include himself in the dances with the last dance.

The article speaks of the Sancho children and their father enjoying
summer concerts at the famous Vauxhall Gardens, and I remember that he
married in England Ann somebody, a woman whose roots were from the
Caribbean, but besides that and the fact that Sancho was born on a slave
ship that landed in South America, where else is his connection to
anything Spanish or Caribbean? It appears that he was raised a Brit all
the way. Maybe there is some of his history I have missed. I know my
ancestors travelled widely in the 1700s, so his children may also have
travelled, especially since they owned a grocery store in England. Does
anyone have any documents to that?

Nevilla E. Ottley

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Richard Bond

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May 10, 2002, 9:18:24 PM5/10/02
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I think that I have pretty much said it. Ignatius Sancho was a West
India goods merchant. What British houses were trading with Trinidad
under the Spaniards?

selwyn ross

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May 11, 2002, 11:52:09 AM5/11/02
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My dear Richard,
I pursue Ignatius Sancho, because I do believe him to
be my first English speaking ancestor.
My forefather arrived in British Guiana, sometime in
the era of Emancipation and Apprenticeship. I would
like to find shipping records. The forefather came 58
years after the death of Ignatius Sancho. One year
after Elizabeth Sancho's death. People in my family
have similar names. I think perhaps only DNA could
scientifically settle this issue. DNA testing is
certainly a option,the Caribbean Sancho must
undertake.
The academic communities has for all intents and
purposes re enslaved Ignatius Sancho. I know it's up
to Sancho to liberate Sancho. In this 2002 Ignatius
Sancho must be free again and numbered with his
descendants.
Do you want to contribute to a forum, the Global
historical Society of Sanchos? I think your intellect
will be appreciated.
Thanking you is a son of Sancho,
Selwyn Ross.

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